#distracts me from 1D when it gets too dramatic on here

[bakagamieru]

Hi!!! I’m hoping you can help - do you know why Zayn left One Direction? He was partying with Louis on March 14 in Thailand and left the band on March the 25th. So what happened in those 9 days for him to leave? I just don’t get it!! TIA!!

Hello,

It wasn’t anything in those 9 days that made him leave.  In fact, I don’t think it was his idea to leave at all.

I have a masterpost outlining most of my speculation relating to this: http://bakagamieru.tumblr.com/post/120840259353/zayn-stunt-summary

Of course there are other fans/bloggers (known as Team Stunt mostly) that have speculated about this as well.

Disclaimers

Please bare with me here and read the whole post (and preferably the other posts in my masterpost) before writing this theory off.  I 100% believe that if anyone takes the time to look at the evidence, it will become obvious that something very fishy is going on.  It’s just logic.

If you’re not coming into this post with the knowledge of 1D’s adversarial relationship with their team or with the knowledge that there are closeted gay couples within the 1D band (Louis and Harry, Liam and Zayn), then you might want to check that out first.  There are good resources out there for all of it.  I have some of it linked on my “ziam resources” and “larry resources” tags or on my Projects and Posts and Tags and Links pages.

It’s important to know what’s going on with these things and the history of 1D and their team because Zayn leaving being a stunt is a part of and a continuation of that.  

It might also help to check out who Zayn really is since a false and negative characterization of him has taken hold because of his public persona since his leaving.  I’ve got a few things linked on my summary masterpost.  Another tag on my blog to check out would be “pairing masterpost” (look for any including Zayn).  There’s also this post and this post and this post that show who Zayn is beyond the broody bad boy image he’s always been saddled with, extremely so in his solo career.  Myself, I think the lyrics from his solo albums, particularly Mind of Mine but also the Icarus part of Icarus Falls, shows who he is better than anything.  There’s no way to fake the gentleness and thoughtfulness inherent in the sentiments he chooses to express.  

Even if you know Zayn well already, it’s always good to revisit these because it can be hard to fully avoid the effects of being bombarded by everyone telling you he’s a selfish, erratic, rash, and disloyal person.  It’s good to be reminded of exactly how dorky, geeky, sweet, protective, thoughtful, intelligent, and caring he is.

Let’s Get Into It

The thing that made us start wondering about a stunt was the way Zayn left.  It doesn’t particularly make sense for a lot of reasons.

1) He had been more engaged than usual at the start of the OTRA tour, talking to fans on social media and practicing to get better at giving speeches on stage.  He was also just as affectionate with the other boys on stage as ever.

2) The reasons they gave for Zayn leaving were many and yet none of them ever made sense.  The WAY he left is also baffling.

Originally the implication was that Zayn left because he was caught “cheating again” on Perrie.  This is unlikely because 1) Zayn was never truly dating Perrie as it was a PR/bearding relationship (yes there is proof), and 2) Zayn and Perrie officially broke up that August anyway and if Zayn left for her, that would take away his reason for leaving and yet he didn’t return.  The same sort of theory popped up with the idea of Naughty Boy luring him away, but again, 1) Naughty Boy had been very pro-1D the year before, and 2) Zayn and Naughty Boy had a “falling out” and yet Zayn didn’t return to 1D.

They said anxiety immediately after he left, but then he started a solo career that’s bound to be more anxiety-inducing if someone has stage fright.  If the worst part of the job is dealing with people, then why would you get rid of the people who distracted most of the interviewer’s attention during interviews and the people who shared the stage with you?

They said he never liked being in the band, but if he likes the music/performing part (he ostensibly did because of going solo) and he likes the boys (there’s no real proof he doesn’t), that only leaves his management team to be causing the problem.  One Direction was just about to end their active contract with Syco/Modest, so why leave the band and risk penalties and censure instead of sticking it out until the end of the year?

Some said he left to go solo first and get the spotlight, but he didn’t actually release solo music until after the hiatus started, he risked a really negative public image by doing so, Simon Cowell had actually claimed the fall before that 1D members could do solo music while in the band, and he missed one of the concerts he’d been really looking forward to (Dubai) instead of at least waiting until the end of that tour leg when there would be a month-long break.  

Additionally, even though Zayn is supposed to be “free of Syco”, it’s pretty clear that his own team is sabotaging his solo career with a complete lack of promo and unnecessarily negative print interviews.  Zayn can’t be blamed for this because even if those things were his choice, they’re not going to earn money and his team has a vested interest in that and yet would apparently be doing nothing about it.  Going back to the theory that Zayn left because of not liking how Syco/Modest did things, clearly him going solo didn’t fix that problem whatsoever and Zayn is too smart to cut ties and burn bridges only to jump from one bad situation into another.

Some people say all of the above things were lies to cover the fact that Zayn and 1D just didn’t get along.  There’s no proof of this.  Like I said, he was just as affectionate with them leading up to his departure.  He was very complimentary of them right after he left, and then suddenly there were Twitter fights with Louis out of nowhere (very suspicious Twitter fights by the way), a supposed feud with Harry (that has only ever existed in the headlines as there is literally no proof other than “a source said”), and negative and then positive and then negative and then positive comments in print interviews despite this being very inconsistent with the official narrative of what’s happened.  Zayn has never from his own mouth said something vitriolic about the other boys.  In fact, the way he talks about them in his few radio/tv interviews is far more positive than his supposed words in print interviews (which can be manipulated very easily).

They claim that Zayn up and decided to leave and then caught a plane without anybody knowing and went back to the UK.  This is very unlikely considering all of the people around him that would notice like the bodyguards, etc.  Also, this assumes Zayn is the type of person who would make such a rash, snap decision.  They also announced him officially leaving not long after which begs the question, did Syco/Modest do nothing to try to persuade/coerce 1/5 of their biggest money-maker to at least finish the tour?

The way it was announced was quite odd, considering it was posted on Facebook of all places immediately after the end of a concert and sounded extremely impersonal like a PR person wrote it (which Zayn later confirmed).  The Mirror also reported on the announcement almost immediately which means they had to be tipped off because they wouldn’t have had time to find the announcement and create an article about it otherwise.

The other odd thing is that there were never any consequences for Zayn leaving.  He’s part of a huge money-making band and he broke a contract with his team, so you would assume that they would 1) sue him, 2) demand he pay the very high fee for getting out of the contract, or 3) drop him from the label/management agency and make sure no one else will work with him in the industry.  None of these things happened.  There’s obviously been no suit as it would have made news.  There was no payoff because Zayn’s net worth never changed in such a dramatic way.  Originally the story was that Syco ONLY let Zayn leave if he signed to them for his solo career, but then Syco claimed to have dropped Zayn BECAUSE he left, but then Syco was still listed on his first solo release (which is sketchy in and of itself).

And let’s talk about the timing once more because there’s a little more to it.  He left 7 shows before the end of the Asia/Africa leg of OTRA.  This meant that he missed the Dubai show which was in an area of the world where he was very popular, where he has cultural ties, and where he had explicitly said he was excited to perform.  That leg was the last leg before a planned 1-month tour break, which would have been a much more logical time to leave, break it to the fans, deal with the paperwork, etc.  That tour was also the last tour before the hiatus.  No, it wasn’t announced until later, but it’s very unlikely it wasn’t planned before that.  Even the fans kind of assumed there would be some sort of break after the album since as far as anyone could guess, that was going to be the end of the Syco/Modest contract time period.  

If Zayn couldn’t stand the band or wanted to go solo or couldn’t stand his management team, there was an obvious out coming up that would have been way less complicated and would have had way fewer potential negative consequences.  For any reason but anxiety (which is eliminated because of the baffling solo career decision), it doesn’t make sense for him to leave instead of waiting out the year.  

There are any number of oddities about the way he left and the given reasons for him leaving.  No matter what theory you look at, it isn’t consistent with logic OR with Zayn’s character and past actions.

So these things were why some of us were suspicious from the start and paid close attention as the events unfolded.  As we did, we just caught more and more inconsistencies and suspicious things.

3) Finally, I need to point out one massive area of evidence about Zayn’s leaving being a (particularly long-lived [although only a couple months longer than babygate]) stunt.  The shade.

The 1D boys have a long history of throwing shade that contradicts the official narrative, thus cluing fans in that some lie is being told.  There’s hella shade around Zayn’s leaving from both him and from the other boys.

The masterpost I linked at the top contains several posts about this, so I’m not going to rehash that here.  However, I will briefly go into what I think is the most compelling evidence that Zayn was actually planned to return to the band in August 2015.

The reason I find this particular shade so compelling is because it’s actually a pattern of shade, and not only is it a pattern of shade, it’s actually 5 overlapping and coordinated patterns of shade.  

The basic idea is that Zayn was scheduled to return on August 5th, around July 26th the boys learned that the return was delayed, the 2nd scheduled return was probably August 18th, and then that return was also delayed/cancelled.

First is Niall’s all-black pattern.  Niall had never worn an all-black outfit on stage before and he’d never repeated the same outfit more than 2 times in a row during a tour, but starting from the concert before Zayn left, he wore all black for 8 shows in a row until the end of that tour leg.  He stopped for the European leg and some of the NA leg.  Then, 8 shows before the August 5th show, Niall starting wearing all black again, like a bookend.  He didn’t make it to 8 shows consecutively because plans got changed, but he did continue wearing some amount of black at almost every show until the end of a tour in an organized pattern.

Second is Rainbow Bondage Bear’s (“RBB”) stickers.  In mid to late August, people started associating the recurring blue and green stickers on RBB with Louis and Harry because of their blue and green mic grips.  In fact, there were orange and yellow stickers (Niall and Zayn) before that, and a red sticker (Liam) showed up after that at strategic times.  The interesting thing is, Zayn’s yellow sticker was up for exactly 8 shows, ending on, you guessed it, August 5th.

Third is the Batman references.  With Liam taking the lead, the references to Batman skyrocketed in August.  Participants included Liam, some of the musical band members, Naughty Boy, and Zayn (yes, both sides participated).  Three particularly compelling references when put together are 1) the bat symbol that was put on the big screen at the 1D concert in Kansas City after the show (the bat signal traditionally calls Batman to come to it), 2) Zayn posting a fanart of his own name in the bat symbol (indicating himself as Batman), and 3) Naughty Boy posting a quote from Batman about the darkest moment being just before the dawn, which he posted with the hashtag “comesoon” (indicating a positive change coming soon).  All together, it’s hard not to read them as a sign that Zayn was supposed to return to the 1D stage soon.  Incidentally, RBB wore a Batman costume on, yes, August 5th.

Fourth is the 5th of the month pattern.  On the 5th of the month, from June 2015 to September 2015, something Ziam-related always happened with the exception of August 5th.  On June 5th Liam wore a ring (unusual for him at the time) in concert.  Surrounding circumstances point to it being Zayn-related.  On July 5th there was a video taken of Liam singing and coming out of the shower where surrounding circumstances point towards Zayn being the one filming.  On September 5th, Zayn and Liam started posting Instagram pictures that seemed to mirror each other or hint at Ziam in some way.  On August 4th, the Zerrie break up was announced, but on August 5th there was nothing in particular.  However, there would have been if that had been the first concert Zayn returned.

Fifth and final is related to the in-ears the boys wear on stage (and specifically to the 2nd return date this time, August 18th).  Oddly enough, the boys seem to change their in-ears in overly patterned ways and although I can’t identify what exactly they’re marking all the time, some of the ones I can link match up to Zayn’s leaving and potential return.  Liam wore a different set of in-ears for the last 5 concerts of the Asia/Africa leg of OTRA, starting on the Jakarta concert which was the first after Zayn’s official leaving announcement was made.  Later, starting on the Winnipeg show on July 24, the first show after Niall’s all-black bookend was disrupted (indicating Zayn’s return date was probably in flux at that point), Niall wore different in-ears for 3 shows.  Then Niall switched back to his regular and Liam picked up the pattern seamlessly by wearing different in-ears for 3 shows and 1 TV performance.  There are 2 possible ways this pattern could have ended that would make sense.  1) Liam could have counted the TV performance, worn in-ears for 1 more show and that would have completed Liam’s bookend of 5 different in-ears ending the show before Zayn’s (2nd scheduled) return on August 18th.  This would have resulted in a total of 8 performances with different in-ears counting both Liam and Niall and both concerts and TV performances, which partially (it doesn’t end on the concert Zayn would return)matches Niall’s bookend pattern.  2) Liam could have not counted the TV performance (the in-ears are almost exclusively a concert pattern) and worn in-ears for 2 more concerts, resulting in 8 total different in-ear shows ending on Zayn’s 2nd return date, completing Niall’s bookend pattern.  This would also mean Liam wore his in-ears for 5 performances, partially matching his bookend pattern (but not ending before the concert Zayn would return).  Again, I think the pattern was disrupted because Zayn’s return was again delayed (indefinitely as it turns out).

All of these patterns are explained in more detail (and with visuals because heaven knows it’s just a lot of dates and numbers without seeing it) in posts that are linked to my masterpost.  

There are also several other surrounding events that seem to confirm Zayn’s delayed returns such as:

the Zerrie break up;

an aborted Zayn-Naughty Boy fight;

the advent of positive 1D-Zayn relations leading up to August and then negative press resuming around August 17th;

a few things that might match up relating to Niall’s Where We Goin’ Today Mark video shade pattern; and 

the release of Drag Me Down which seems to have possibly been moved up by a week or so, indicating it originally might have been an OT5 song meant to be released around Zayn’s return.

To me, the fact that these patterns were so obviously deliberate (they’re way too organized not to be) and that they all overlap and point to the same dates, along with the fact that people from both camps participated in the Batman pattern, points to a definite return plan that was positively anticipated by both the boys and Zayn.

If I were to ever wonder if maybe Zayn really didn’t want to return even if leaving wasn’t his idea in the first place, this is what makes me positive that he did.  

If I ever wonder if maybe there was a falling out with Zayn and the boys after he left, even if he didn’t want to leave to start with, the shade from both sides makes it obvious to me that there never was any real bad blood.  If they all go to the trouble to contradict the official story, then clearly the official story must be a lie and the boys must all be on the same page.

Conclusion

I know this is a long post, but this is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the sketchiness around Zayn leaving.  

Unfortunately, I haven’t followed through on organizing all the evidence like I had planned to at one point, but I think the masterpost I put together does cover a lot even if it’s a bit repetitive with some posts and a bit disorganized.

If anyone has questions that aren’t already covered in the masterpost, go ahead and send me an ask.

#Anonymous #one direction #zayn leaving #masterpost #speculation #bakagamieru #I've done one of these again #why do I keep doing them instead of just linking the 10 I've already done? #I don't know #maybe I'm trying to find the best way to organize it and present it #which is why I keep redoing it #maybe I feel like someone who asks deserves a direct answer instead of a stale one in a link #or maybe I feel like they'll be more likely to read something if it's in the same post as the question instead of linked to it #who knows

[dogsliampaynedoesntinstagram]

I would love to one day compare and contrast the boys' solo music videos in detail. For now, what's your personal ranking of fave to least fave?

What a great ask anon - thanks so much. After much watching and careful consideration I have my rankings and have learned much about my own taste in music videos in the process. 

Here we have 1D’s solo music videos ranked from ‘this is made just for me’ to ‘actively unpleasant to watch’

Just Like You: I don’t think it’ll surprise anyone who reads my blog that I love the way this video engages with the world.  It’s the only video from a One Direction member that has the word ‘communist’ or engages sympathetically with women’s experience of sexual harassment.  Using newspapers is a great idea for a lyric video anyway, but in this case it’s not just about the aesthetics, but creating an aesthetic that underscores and adds to the song. I love everything about it - the choices of articles, the little drawings, the use of silhouettes.  As we get towards the bottom of the list it’ll become clear that a lot of music videos just aren’t made for me.  This video very much was.Kiwi: Puppies! Beautiful Baked Goods! Harry L’s amazing outfits! Harry S hamming it up! This video is a joy of a concept brilliantly executed.  If I can’t shake the feeling that it celebrates the aesthetics of gentrification, I can be distracted by cute children.

Back to You: So if I was being totally honest with myself this video would probably be first. I’ve watched it more often than any of the other videos (possibly more than the other videos put together).  My formative experience of music videos is of sitting on my friend’s couch in the late 1990s and early 2000s talking shit while music TV was on in the background.  This feels like the sort of video I would have enjoyed then - endlessly watchable but you don’t have to worry about missing anything.  Charm and a sense of place is really all you need. (I also have a theory that this is the music video that has done most for the song of any 1D solo single.  Back to You has done noticeably better on youtube than streaming).

Miss You: I thought this would be the one that I couldn’t really defend.  That when it came down to it all the ranking of this music video would show was that I’m a sucker for Louis and pink triangles.  But you know what? Louis effectively communicates both joy and loneliness - and that’s so much more interesting than communicating that you’re staring into the middle distance and singing seriously.  I don’t think this video is effective as it should be and I can’t figure out why (I think it’s about the lack of energy and specificity outside Louis’ crew in the crowd scenes. Or maybe it’s the whiteness, which I think undermines the sense of place and makes it much harder to invest in this group of men’s fun).  But emotions and pink triangles cover many sins.

Still Got Time: This video has so much energy, partly because they manage to make the party full, but I think the retro effects work really well.  To me it’s a great example of how if something is grounded everything else works better. The surrealness of the monkey and alligator at the end is so much more effective, because what went before established the world of a 90s house party.

BeFoUr: See I’m easy to please - set a music video somewhere that feels like it exists and have Zayn smile and I’m like ‘great work’.  

Get Low:  This one is pretty odd - there are bits that feel like they’re making sure that this is a music video and they really get in the way of the looseness of the concept.  The choreographed dance routine following them around and Liam’s serious singing face don’t really work at all.  But then at the end they sing with the children and Liam smiles and everything gets lots better. 

Slow Hands: What I have learned from this ranking is me and Niall have very different music video aesthetics.  This is by far my favourite of his.  He’s so much more charming when he’s goofing around recording than when he’s pretending to have feelings.  

Sign of the Times: This one is hard, because I can see a good video in here.  There are moments where Harry conveys an emotional reaction to the situation that feels real (when he looks at his shaking hand at 0:51, his joy at 2:51, and some of the body positioning and expressions towards the end), but for most of the video it just looks like he’s dangling on the end of the rock.  Solid concept (although probably one that would always have too much middle distance staring for me) badly executed.

Just Hold On: I really hate the cheesy special effect when they go from place to place and I think this video relies on a level of interest in heterosexuality that I just don’t have. But this video is much higher up the list than I expected it to be.  The couple in this video look like they’re having fun in each other’s company.  Quite a few 1D members could learn about how to communicate desire from the actors in this video.

Dusk Till Dawn: It’s very well done (and has a great sense of place), but epic storytelling isn’t my favourite form of music video.  And my extreme aversion to the police shooting anyone means I can’t enjoy the end (for all I like a clever heist).

Too Much to Ask: So this video almost has a sense of place for Niall to be sad in, but it just doesn’t quite get there.  I really like the bits where he’s exploring London and riding on the tube.  But the scenes where Niall is singing in a bedroom that couldn’t possibly be his bedroom and they’re all playing in another unidentified room really detract from the setting established in the London shots.  Is Niall supposed to be staying over in the pub that has terrible decor? Why not establish some space that could believably his.  He moves around London like someone who exists in that space, but the other locations undermine that.

I Don’t Wanna Live Forever/For You: These obviously have a job within the wider franchise and they both do that job well.  I think I prefer the aesthetic of For You, but Rita Ora is very good at smiling and being charming while also singing a ridiculous over dramatic song in a dress.  We’ll call it a tie. 

This Town: Both the lyric video and the performance video are fine I guess.  They’re sweet enough, except maybe the bit with the golf ball heart, which seems like a bit of a disturbing metaphor. 

Strip That Down: Like the song, this video has the advantage to fully committing to how stupid it is.  Give me somewhere that has no sense of aesthetics because it’s all neon and houseplants rather than bland rich people aesthetics any day.  Also Liam smiles, which is so much preferable to his serious singing face.  But it’s definitely not a music video that was made with me in mind.  And the difference in clothing between the men and the women in the video is really tedious.

Like I Would: Some of the special effects are cool.  I think the outfit Zayn is wearing is particularly impressive.  But it’s so serious and the fact that Zayn and the female dancers are never in the same frame really emphasises the difference in the way men’s and women’s bodies

It’s You: The black and white cinematography make it very pretty, but it’s boring.  Generic rich people is so not my aesthetic.  I wouldn’t have made it all the way through if I wasn’t writing this post.

Pillowtalk: I really don’t like this video.  I find the art school special effects tedious and the flowers particularly embarrassing.  Also I’m trypophobic so I literally find the woman with spikes on her face unwatchable and have to close my eyes.  

On the Loose: I really don’t like it.  As well as being bland, the way it’s shot really dehumanises the woman in the song.  The lyrics aren’t great anyway - men warning other men how awful women are isn’t my thing.  But in the song she does things - in the music video because of the slow-mo and the framing she is reduced to an object and all she is doing is being looked at.

Bedroom Floor: This is essence of everything I hate in music videos.  Bland rich people aesthetics, joyless sex and relationships and constipated middle distance staring as a way of conveying emotion.  As if that wasn’t enough it promotes rape culture and is actively unpleasant to watch.

#A lot of the problem is that I don't like a lot of the conventions of music videos #but I am also easily pleased #a sense of place and the singer cracking a smile at least once #is all I need #As if it wasn't already clear that Louis' music videos were my favourite #my criteria are a dead give away #I was surprised at how much I didn't like Niall's videos #I suspect this list accurately captures how I respond to each of their video aesthetics #But it'll be interesting to see if the sorts of videos they do change #opps this is really long #It's behind a cut now

[cowboybuckleys]

When I say impossible to compare, honestly I meant quality wise. Mainly the sets. There is no such thing as ‘outside’ on Days, the square, you can tell always, is an indoor set. The cheesy music that plays when something bad is happening. The endless flashbacks. I also to have a way bigger issue with acting in US soaps, but that may just be me. This is all just surface level stuff tho, I also think some characters are more 1D 1/2

2/2 and cartoony on US soaps but that kinda goes w suspending disbelief so I won’t get into that, it’s not my main point. I don’t mean flashbacks and such are bad, it’s just a major difference. UK soaps are definitely intended to be more realistic and not just sl-wise, but the fact that they don’t add any artificiality (bg music, flashbacks, sets, repeating the ends of scenes after ad breaks etc). That’s why for me, comparing them in many ways is hard.

3/3 (Just read your tags and wanted to add that yes eastenders is awful but they still don’t do any of the artificial stuff) (also also acting isn’t perfect on UK soaps AT ALL don’t get me wrong it’s just more characters for me on US ones are portrayed by people of dubious ability.)

And I agree, I do. Quality wise they’re never going to be similar because the US networks don’t give a toss about soap operas at least not anymore. There’s a reason why there’s only one soap per network now (with the exception of CBS). During the end of Guiding Light, when they were constantly doing real life outdoor scenes, they were honest to god the most awful to watch because even then the quality was shit and it distracted from the scenes at hand. i think ATWT did it a fair bit of it towards the end too and it will always bug me how awful it all looked. So I think i’m okay with Days being fake outdoors because I’ve seen other shows do it, and do it badly, and I don’t want that for a show I genuinely love XD

US soaps are meant to be cheesy tho, to be overly soapy, the music is supposed to add suspense and direction to a scene (though I admit they’ve lacked on that front in the last decade, it was better in the 90s and early 2000s), and to lack a level of quality that other shows have because it’s an afternoon soap. I gather that it’s taken a lot more seriously in the UK, but here?? it’s definitely not, it’s just a silly little show in the afternoon. 80% of the general audience don’t even keep up with it on a regular basis like a fandom does, so they add the flashbacks and the replays for the ones who aren’t tuning in on the regular. It’s annoying as hell god it really fucking is, but there is a reason for it. That’s why I don’t compare surface level stuff, it seems pointless to when they’re so vastly different (like apples and oranges, same genre, different quality and taste). But I still do compare storylines and characters, because it makes way more sense to do so imo. 

Also, as a note on the acting thing.. A lot of the young stars have said it’s like acting bootcamp cos they’re doing 4 times more pages a day than a normal tv show would and for a lot of them it’s their very first experience in acting on a set. I give a little bit of leeway to some of them for that (Kirsten Storms bugged the pants off me her first few months on the job as Belle but overtime she became one of my favorite actresses, she improved and learned). But I also think a lot of the overacting is down to the show being overdramatic/cheesy so that’s how the actors play it to further push the dramatics. My gran actually used to call it daytime vaudeville lol. That’s just the nature of US soaps. Has been since my gran watched it, since I’ve watched it, and probably will be for the future generations if US soaps survive through the next few years.

god that got longer than i meant it to XD but thank you so much for clarifying. i do think we agree more than we disagree here lol US soaps are trash tv 100%. but it’s great trash tv when you learn to deal with the cheese/overdramatics of it all (btw my way of doing this is by making fun of it on a regular basis lol)

#US soaps are not for everyone so i get it yknow #you gotta suspend your disbelief for characters/storylines and then you gotta suspend your disbelief of the quality to enjoy yourself lol #Anonymous #and to be real honest i don't compare characters THAT often #a lot of my comparisons are me shooting the shit with people lol