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#fizz has been playing the clown for mammon for so long
ammonitetheseaserpent · 6 months
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Something something abt how a clown’s whole thing is to make themselves the butt of the joke and take everything thrown at them while a jester’s whole thing is to freely call out & ridicule the king however they choose something something…
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pinkandpurple360 · 4 months
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i refuse to acknowledge viv’s patreon/twitter like canon of “ozzie never had feelings ever until fizz bc fizz is that speshul” and instead play into his string of failed relationships with sarah, lilith, and make some bs up for solomon too for ✨spice✨. then he can get with fizz and have the spirit of love return to him or something. or maybe even another character. i enjoy fizzarozzie but some of your posts got me thinking of an au where fizz either leaves him for blitzo or dies, and ozzie meets someone new and has conflicting feelings about it
Viv that would be kinda silly and childish. Not to mention recycling Stolas’ story. But. To be fair Twitter likes aren’t always canonised but still.
Asmodeus is thousands of years old. Has met millions of people. It would make sooo much better sense if he was hurt by a failed relationship and that’s why he resents love. Or if he saw his past lovers outlive him and leave, causing him to avoid attachments but when he does, he gets too protective and feels very insecure.
The Sarah and Lilith stories are a perfect opportunity to make Ozzie have some depth, past pain, and have moments where he is a bad person because he is a sin, hello?
I hate to think of Fizz dying and honestly prefer a mature scenario where Fizz sits him down after a while when problems have been building up for a long time, and they talk, not sing or dance, or cry dramatically, but talk.
I wrote this for my fic Trouble in Rented Paradise but here heck it, I’ll spoil some of the breakup I wrote:
“Oz, we both know this wasn’t meant to be forever. You helped me when I needed it, you put me back together. I’ll always be grateful for that. You were my partner when I lost my. When I lost everything. But. Like you said, i need to step off the stage, out of the spotlight. I don’t want you to watch me die slowly, while you stay here, all alone”
“But fizz, maybe, maybe if we just marry, you can be my queen, forever! Just you and me. Don’t you want that?”
“I.. don’t want to either stay in lust forever, with eyes around me, or for the duration of my time. It’s just that I don’t…belong here, it’s not home to me. not really. So. No Oz..I’m sorry, but I don’t want that. To be bound to anybody eternally. It feels wrong.
I’m an imp and no better than any other mortal. And I don’t think you really want this either. You value your freedom as much as I value mine. You could never really relax while trying to take care of me and watch over me. Protecting me from others. I love you so, so much. But I also love my friends, my family, my colleagues, the people who raised me and stayed by my side, too. And I have an opportunity to reconnect with them again, after so much time! I know it’s not fair..but I need you to not be my whole world. And I’m not your whole world. You have a huge family, you have your staff, the sins, the Goetia”
“Those stuck up birds and those other freaks like Mammon??! They—-I’m sorry..I don’t mean to raise my voice. But they just dont. They don’t care about me. And I don’t about them”
“I know that’s not true. Bee is your sister. Mam is a clown but you’ll need to end your feud someday. That prince stolas guy from Ozzie’s, he annoys you, but I can tell when you scolded him about his wife and daughter, it came from a place of care. Then he helped you save me when he didn’t really have to. I think that family, especially the children, need some help. Guidance. Something only you and Bee have the power to give. I know you’re good with kids, you just get nervous”
“I guess, but you see too much good in people sometimes fizz”
“Maybe but. I feel like I’m seeing clearly right now. I’d like to drop the curtain on this without shattering your heart beyond repair, and I don’t want the show to go on forever either.”
“Please, Fizz”
“Please Asmodeus, let me go. It’s not that there’s someone else. This, is for me. And it’s for you. Before I go, and after I go. Just do one thing for me?”
“Yes? Anything for you”
“Whenever you’re alone, or lonely, even when you don’t want to see anybody. Please try to keep the doors open ok? No more shutting people out.”
“…I’ll try”
This conversation will definitely be back and forth for several days. And they’ll still be intimate a few times before drifting apart. But it wouldn’t result in a broken heart that is irreparable. Only a slightly crooked one that they can clean up together.
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thebunniesgrim · 6 months
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helluva boss’ humor really trips me up sometimes  
(long post like really long post i go off)
Because sometimes it plays with hell's society and makes funny jokes like the HR joke in Spring Broken. One thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is when it makes jokes or points fun at prudes in the universe. Which btw I don’t think this bad or anything it’s just something that pulled me personally out of the show. It’s still funny at the end of the day but!  
Like the normalcy of death, swearing, sex, innuendos and all that. like jokes that would make you or me pause for a second wouldn’t be such a deal to them and vice versa is funny. Honestly the M&M’s being in a loving relationship in hell as a joke is funny  
But the thing that trips me up is the way some demons in universe react to the jokes doesn’t make any since. I understand their reaction is a joke, but why did they have that reaction anyway? for example  
In the LooLoo Land episode a good joke was when Octavia said she was going to be sick then Moxxie panics going through different medications and pulls out a bunch of syringes full of morphine just to casually throw them into a baby stroller when Octavia says she wasn’t really sick. Hilarious and it shows the human and demon side of moxxie love it. Although in the same episode Blizto says he isn't a day hooker and the lady walking by judges him and he calls her a prude. Funny yes! But why does she care like girl he has a whole gun and that’s what you choose to be concerned about? Ok. I understand her being shocked is the joke but why is she? In a place where being a hooker is possibly the most normal thing to them as being lawyer is to you or me. Why such a strong reaction?  
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(Stolas has green screen arms lol)
Even the newest Mammon ep in Fizz’s “two weeks' notice or whatever it's called” song when he say “spending life bent over with your fist in my ‘A’” and the crowed is like shocked or put off by it like sure maybe they just weren't expecting it but he literally says bent over and even shakes his little imp ass at them while setting up the joke. It could have also been that they were surprised he censored himself. I don’t know, do you know?  
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Also, I must say hell born demons don’t have to be always ok with sex jokes. A little verity never hurts anybody. just Like Moxxie not very violent or having his limits is fine and also Striker being uncomfortable or not liking that everyone makes sex jokes at his expense is kind of funny it's of the same caliber of funny that the M&M’s gimmick has. I also think he doesn’t like the sex jokes because he doesn’t have control of the situation (or Stolas, Moxxie, and Fizz just aren't his type who knows lol) he was more than ready to diddle Biltzo’s holes if it meant he’d join Striker. Also, he didn’t seem to mind the other imps fawning over him even if he did kick that one girl in the face. Kind of like a you can look but don’t touch kind of thing. He likes or deals with the jokes until he can't control the situation and it's like come one dude, I'm trying to kill you cower before me plz :( you feel me? Like that makes since because it can be explained away with, their character but seeing as it’s not a social norm so when others who we don’t know and are supposed to show the status quo do it, it’s a little bit weird you know?  
This also applies to Helluva Boss in general not just jokes. It’s honestly hard to tell what's allowed in hell and what isn't sometimes even for jokes because you know how a lot of people were weirded out at the kid being at the clown pageant and everyone is like “dude its hell they don’t have the same type of morals as we do” but also have people in the show react to sex or taboo stuff like it's weird you know? Like yes, I expect hypocrisy in the world of hell like a whole “rules for thee but for me” kind of thing. It is hard to stay true to that when the rules aren’t enforced?  because one second, you’ll have Loona and Blizto making fun of Moxxie for being “fat”, but you also want me to care when Mammon calls Fizz fat. I'm supposed to take Loona beating up Blizto as a joke but once Stella raises a hand to Stolas, I'm supposed to be like oh no abuse! 
Speaking of abuse. Mammon is just Blitzo cranked up to eleven. They are practically the same character given what the show tells us. What Blitzo does to Moxxie is the same thing Mammon does to fizz only cranked up to nine. Mammon says things that make Fizz worry I.e. “ready to reclaim your win another year... I saw your competition and it's pretty stiff, right? You are going to have try extra hard” remember in “The Harvest Moon Festival” ep where Blizto says “now just remember your rep with the in laws is on the line here so, no pressure at all you totally will not make an ass of yourself in front of everyone important in your life” he totally did that on purpose. How about when Mammon calls Fizz a “a bit chungo”? blitzo in seeing stars “you know it wouldn’t kill ya to put a salad in your body every now and then” and he says it meaner. He even encourages Loona to also call moxxie fat so while it’s still Loona doing it Blizto not telling her to chill out or something and there by condoning it, but he has the nerve to clutch his stupid little pearls (also blitzo isn't Wareing his mom little necklace thing in ep) when Mammon does the same thing.
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The fuck is that face for you slimy little bitch?  
Mammon says sexually charged stuff to Fizz that is very obviously making him uncomfortable but disregards it like its nothing? “The more they’ll want a piece of you they can home and fuck! Don’t you want that Fizzy? to be fucked?” Then Fizz said no, and he disregarded it. Blizto in Murder Family, Harvest Moon, Truth seekers, Ex's and Ohs when he makes a big deal about someone having sex with both Moxxie and Millie and then making a big deal at the fact that he, Moxxie and Millie have had sex with the same person also maybe Ozzie's when he says he watches the M&M get it on but it's hard to gaze if Moxxie’s reaction was surprise, disgust or both. Mammon calls Fizz a “a stupid little [HONK]” Blizto calls Moxxie “a fucking disgrace” in Unhappy Campers but to be fair I make it an active effort to forget that ep is canon so. Mammon puts Fizz in a situation he can't handle, which leads to a panic attack. Blizo in the first ep Murder Family where Moxxie doesn’t want to kill Martha because he doesn’t want to kill a mother and ruin a family and is openly hesitant and uncomfortable about it causing him to have a small panic and mess up the mission at first. Mammon tells fizz to get his shit together with the underlying threat of firing, terminating, or worse. Murder family Blitzo says “But if you ever pull a stunt like this again, I will fuck you and your wife”. Both BLizto and Mammon treat Fizz and Moxxie all buddy buddy when they do stuff, they want but when they don’t comply or might not do something they don’t like they get mean or aggressive. They only main differences is that Moxxie can talk back to Blizto in a way and fizz can't. Also, Fizz actually quits, and escapes his horrible boss.  
I know that the pilot isn't cannon but it’s the blueprint of the characters and Blizto being abusive to moxxie sexually and verbally being a constant throughout the pilot and the canonized show is just... icky 
The show will tell me that imps and hellhounds are at the bottom of society but also have them stand up to the deadly sins like it no big deal. Loona tried to fight Beelzebub, Crimson tried to bribe and blackmail Asmodeus, Fizz stands up Mammon (as he should but Mammon could have literally tuned him into a smoothie) like the deadly sins are the next things to gods and these low-level nobodies are trying to square up. Not only does it make the deadly sins look like total wusses, but it also makes hellhounds and imps look more powerful than they are. Striker saying royals' step all over imps and treat them horribly and other than stella literally throwing Pringles and referring to him as “this one”
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but Stolas literally uses Pringles as like a phone stand in Seeing Stars so.... 
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The only ones who we’ve seem treat the imps like that on a regular basis are other non-royal hell born demons like the twins in Mammons ep. The lady and her kid in the doctor's office in western energy, the hellhound bodyguards in The Circus and even other imps like how Millies family treat Moxxie because he’s traditionally strong, or how striker thinks that he and blizto are far better then they’re own kind. Sure, the imps are butlers, purse accessories, and work on farms to feed the other rings. Other than the farm thing other demons do too from what we’ve seen. Also, from what we have seen, the royals are so detached from imps it seems like Strikers’ biggest problem is other demons themselves. The only royal we see talk down to imps is Stolas. Stella, Andrealphus, Paimon, never says much about them or even addresses them in any kind of way that’s outright negative, it’s more or less just plain indifference. I mean even the 7 deadly sins (that we’ve met so far) don’t say anything about imps in a derogatory way mammon doesn’t, Bee calls Blitzo “Imp boy” but not in a mean way, and Asmodeus call Moxxie “little imp” which seems more teasing than mean.  
Ok look if I'm to take the hell hierarchy seriously then please play by your rules. I-ok so like are the sins a force to be reckoned with or not? Because they just seem like regular demons but bigger. You're telling me the second blizto get nabbed by the DORK agents Stolas is out here cracking necks and summoning himself in blood to save him 
But nothing was done to save fizz?  
“It was hostage situation” ok and? Asmodeus is a sin he could have pulled a Stolas and posseted one of Crimsons goons and shot or incomposite striker and crimson. You have almost infante power and you can't save your boyfriend and work colleague? And if demons can't be possessed then send Stolas in exchange for the crystal. Crimson doesn’t know about Stolas, and it would surprise him stolas can turn into his big bird form in hell and did in Seeing Stars. ALSO why is everyone just standing up to and trying to pick fights with the Sins? Like guys I get it I really do but please realistically you're going to get smooshed like bug 
I'm constantly being told that Stolas and Blitzo can't be together while Beelzebub and Asmodeus can be with Vortex and Fizz. With no real in show reason as to why? You can address its hypocrisy all you want but you still never gave a reason as to why one is ok and other isn't. Stolas is Royality and can't date outside his rank? And the 7 deadly sins are of a different rank than him so it's different. How so? Why does Asmodeus need it to keep him and fizz a secret? if a god was dating a regular person, what could you possibly do about it? Also, if Asmodeus needs to keep his relationship a secret, then why doesn’t Beelzebub? If it because Beelzebub’s relationship corresponds to her sin how so? How is dating someone not of your rank gluttonous or indulgent? Unless Bee is a serial dater, and I don’t think she is how so? Also, Asmodeus dating Fizz does correspond to his sin he’s the over seer of lust and lust doesn’t stop at rank or class. If them being romantic is the problem, then they could lie and tell everyone that him and fizz are just fuck buddies or they're in an open relationship where they are ok with each other sleeping around but they don’t do it. They’re already business partners; it wouldn’t be a stretch if the literal ruler of lust would want to sleep with someone regardless of their rank and whether or not they work for them. Plus, they do openly say they are fucking each other while Ozzie's workers are near so them having sex isn't the problem.  
Ok so like ya’ll know the live action Grinch movie? And you know that one part where the grinch is the holiday chair mister and the who's are giving him a bunch of food even after he's full and his face is full of food, but they keep shoving more in his mouth? Yeah, that is what watching helluva boss is like sometimes you know?   
It's like a barrage of information or nothing 
Anyways  
this show is ride and then some lol granted this doesn’t really make or break the show for me honestly, it's just that the more the show tells me one thing it’ll go through hell (heh) to make it, so it doesn’t matter anymore, and it only brings up more questions. Like if something isn't allowed then make it so don’t just tell me oh that’s not allowed but is but it’s a problem but I'm not going to tell you why or what the problem is just trust me look at the cute couples don’t look anywhere else don’t worry about it  
I know you’re probably asking yo why are you questioning it I'm just a confused fan and I want the show I like to make since is that such a tall order? 
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tru-3-beauty · 2 months
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Hell Night Chats (Ft. Fizzarolli&Asmodeus)
I have been in love with this couple since when season 2, episodes 6 & 7 came out. I got inspired to do this, and it was a lot of fun. I hope you enjoy it as well.
Music plays in the background as the camera pans over a couch and a chair.  A small table is between them.
In the chair is the host of the talk show. A woman in her early thirties is organizing her questions for her guests.  
She has dark gray skin and deep purple eyes.  Her hair is long feathers with a green and blue eye pattern.  She wears a royal blue suit and pants with the same pattern as her hair.  At first glance, it was easy to tell she was a peacock.
She smiles at the camera as it focuses on her.
Host: Welcome to Hell Night Chats, Hell's number-one talk show.  I am your host, Hellen Vanney.  Just last month, the King of Lust confirmed the rumors about his relations with Hell's favorite jester, who formerly worked under the King of Greed.  Now, they were kind enough to come here and share their side of the story.  Everyone give it up for Hell's newest couple.  Asmodeus and Fizzarolli.
Applause is heard as the couple walks out and sits on the couch.  
Hellen: Welcome.  It is so great to have you here with us tonight.
A: It is great to be here, Hellen.
H: Okay, I have some questions for you.  And I hope you will be comfortable with answering them.
F: Ask away.
H: How and when did you two first meet?
F: We met over ten years ago.  Around that time, I won Mammon's Clown Pageant for the first time.  I used simple robotic prosthetics at the time, making performing challenging.  Mammon wanted to make those sexbots, which I was never comfortable with, to begin with, and brought me with him to a meeting with Ozzie here so he could get my likeness down for those bots.
A: He was timid.  I first thought it was because he was in the presence of two Sins.  I later learned it was because he was uncomfortable that someone had to get personal with him to get every detail on the sexbots.  All my workers were busy with other tasks, so I took it upon myself to examine him.
F: I was terrified of how he would react.  At the time, no one had seen my body after the accident that caused the imp circus to disband.  I was practically shaking when he said I had to strip down.
The audience burst into loud ohs.  Hellen had to calm them down.
A: I may be the Sin of Lust, but I am also big on consent.  I did not want to force Fizzy into something he was uncomfortable with, but at the same time, I had to do this to make the sexbots.  I asked him what was wrong.  That was when he told me about his prosthetics.  I reassured him nothing would freak me out after living for so long.  And I offered to make him some new high-tech arms and legs to make it easier for him to perform.
F: That was when I decided to trust him with my well-being.  The rest, as they say, is history.
You could hear the audience awwing after that and clapping.
H: That is very interesting.  Why did you hide your relationship in the first place?
F: I can answer that.  You see, he did not care what people thought, but me being insecure, I wanted to hide it.  I did not want everyone to make fun of Ozzie.
A: I do not care what the public thinks.  I have been around since the beginning of Hell.  Nothing anyone does can affect me.  But Fizz was adamant, so hiding it was the best choice at the time.
H: You did not do an excellent job hiding it, though.  There are countless photos of you two cuddling and canoodling.
A: That would be my fault.  He is just so cute.  I can't help it sometimes.
Asmodeus began to muzzle Fizzarolli's head while the audience awed.
H: Which brings me to my next question.  Why are you only affectionate with the head?
F: That is because I can only fully feel with my head.  I can't feel the texture with my prosthetics, so my head and neck are my most sensitive parts.  I can still feel pressure, but not the texture.
H: That is cute.  You two are so adorable.  Fizzarolli, what was it like being the face of Mammon's brand?
F: In a word, terrible.  Looking back, I don't know why he was my idol.  I thought he was generous when he first announced his "Clown Pageant."  It wasn't until I won the pageant how gruesome it would be.  He never once cared about my well-being or asked me for my opinion.  He would also threaten to expose my relationship with Ozz if I did not do as he said.
H: It must have been hard.  What was your breaking point?
Fizz turns to Ozzie.
F: I think it was during the final act of the Glam Sisters.
A: Yeah. It was during that time.  I remember getting a call from Blitz telling me that Fizz here needed me.  He could tell you were close to a panic attack.  It was scary seeing him like that.
F: The sisters' act made me think I would lose the pageant.  To me, losing the competition meant I would lose Ozzie.  And losing Ozzie meant I would lose everything.  I don't know what would have happened if Ozz had not talked me down.
H: What are you planning to do now that you are no longer working for Mammon?
F: Well, I still have my hosting gig at “OZZIES,” but it is hard to say.  I know that Ozzie will be there with me, whatever it is.
A: And I know that Fizz will succeed in his new endeavor.
H: You two must really love each other.
The couple nodded and said yeah.
H: When did you two realize that you were in love with the other?
A: For me, it is hard to pinpoint.  But I would say when I could not bring myself to fuck anyone anymore, and Fizz was the single target of my self-care.
The audience burst into laughter at that last statement.
F: I guess I would say it was when I kissed him in the heat of the moment.  It just felt natural.  Before I could have a chance to take it back and apologize, he held me close and kissed me back.
Loud awes come from the audience.
H: Asmodeus, do you fear someone might hurt Fizzarolli to get to you?
A: I'm not going to lie; I do fear that.  Especially since Fizzy wants to have some independence, luckily, we have a go-to imp who will keep him safe outside.  He kept him safe from “certain” fans at the pageant.
F: I appreciate all he did for me that day.
H: Who is this imp that you trust Fizzarolli with?
A: He is an old friend of Fizz's.
F: Our friendship is complicated right now, but who knows if we will be okay again.
H: Asmodeos, I must know, have you ever been in a serious relationship before Fizzarolli?
The audience makes some noise and thinks that the lustful sin better chooses his words carefully.
A: I can honestly say that I have not.  Sure, I had some flings throughout the eons, but nothing this serious.
Loud cheers came from the audience.
H: Do you fear that the King of Hell will punish you for this?
A: I do feel like Luci might be mad, but hey, I am not the only Sin to fall in love.
H: That is right.  Now, Asmodeus, with you being Lust itself.  Is Fizzarolli able to keep up with you?
The audience bursts into hoots and hollers at the implication while Asmodeus chuckles and Fizzarolli blushes a little.
A: He has no problem whatsoever.  I am not going into details about what we do, but I will say I have never been so satisfied in my existence.
Fizzarolli covers his face with his hands to hide his blush while the audience claps and cheers at how cute and wholesome the couple is.
H: On that note, what are date nights like for you two?
Asmodeus puts his arm around Fizzarolli.
A: Well, before, we would hang out and watch TV or a movie.  Other times, I would sneak into his dressing room between his times on stage.
Fizzarolli leans into his side and puts a hand on Asmodeus’ thigh.
F: Nowadays, we go to restaurants, and if we have time, we go to other rings and enjoy what they offer.  We still enjoy cuddling on the couch and watching what is on TV.
The audience giggles at how cute the two lovers are.
H: Okay, I have one last question.  How do you feel about the fact that Fizzarolli is going to die one day?
The audience goes into a hushed silence.  The topic of the question dawned on the couple.  Asmodeus and Fizzarolli looked at each other, knowing the severity of it.  They grabbed each other's hands as a way to comfort one another.
A: I do not feel comfortable answering that.
F: Neither do I.
H: Well, that is okay.  I understand if the topic is too much right now.
Hellen looks at the audience with a smile.
H: Anyway, I believe that we are out of time today.  Once again, let us thank our guests for joining us here tonight.  I am Hellen Vanney.  I hope to see you all again.  This has been Hell Night Chats.  Goodnight, everyone, and let’s see who we will have next time.
The lights dim as theme music plays in the background with loud cheers from the audience.
Hope you enjoyed this fun idea I had.
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