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Parents and informing dynamics
I've been seeing a few posts about how Enid's parents aren't great, and I just saw another piece about how Morticia tells Wednesday what Enid whats to hear from her own mother.
First of all, block me (may have to block my main blog, vynsvision, but fucking block me) if you think Enid's father isn't doing enough. He's doing the best he can. Enid's mom is pressuring, and I would say even verbally abusing Enid- and her father is very quiet during these moments. It is clear that he experiences the same verbal attacks as Enid does, although probably on a different subject. (Not sure what, as we don't see it. Maybe that hes not man enough? Clearly the mom is the leader of the pack here, not dad.) His encouragement to Enid is the best he can do safely.
Anyway, I think the parents of the students we see and their relationships and dynamics with their kids, and how their kids react, is SO fascinating.
Wednesday's parents love her and are so proud of her. They don't want her to be a new version of themselves- that's something Wednesday thought they wanted. Many parents do put expectations and hopes on their children to be better than themselves, but their kids fall short or reject those plans. Many children look at their parents and are afraid to become them. Morticia and Gomez just Wednesday to find her own way. They truly will be proud of her and accepting of her whatever she chooses. Once she realizes this, she settles more comfortably into Nevermore. After all, she's defending the school in a prophecy, and there's a serial-killing monster out and about. Morticia and Gomez didn't directly seem to deal with that. Shes well on her way to doing her own thing.
Enid, as mentioned, is not living up to her parent's expectations. Or rather, her mother's. She's 13 (or so?) and hasn't wolfed-out yet. Her mother wants to send her to a camp that will help the wolfing-out happen, no doubt by being put through scary events (kinda like She-Hulk's first episode in the show, but. With worse results.) and other motions and steps. Enid, from the start, tells her parents she doesn't desire this for herself, but her mother wants to send her anyway. Her father understands Enid's desires, but has no courage to stand up to her mother, or can't because (as mentioned) it wouldn't be safe for him to do so. His seeing her as she is and accepting her as she is is the best he can do. And I think its enough.
Xavier's dad being famous and then also not showing up on parent's day/weekend... oh honey. I dont know if a mom is mentioned, but I dont believe so. If no mom is present in his life, he actually seems to parallel Tyler pretty well. Both boys seemingly just have their fathers, and their fathers are much more interested in their jobs than talking about the elephants in the rooms- for Xavier, Mr. Thorpe doesn't seem to appreciate or approve of Xavier's inherent ability to make his art almost come to life. For Tyler, Sheriff Galpin is focused on the case and also refusing to talk about Tyler's mother. Tyler wants, I guess, to be left alone by his father, and Xavier is left alone.
Bianca Barclay, apparently the closest thing Nevermore has to royalty, and she ran away from home to be at the school. She changed her name and sirened her way into the school, hoping it to he a refuge. She pretends to know that her mother isn't coming, and that Bianca doesn't care her mom won't show, but then is shocked and uncomfortable seeing her mother there. Then we see that Bianca left because her now-step-father and mother made a wellness cult, basically. * Bianca doesn't want anything to do with her mother or step-father.
*[this wellness cult storyline seemed to not really go anywhere, but I think her mom said she had until the end of the school year to say her goodbyes, so maybe s2 (which would be the Spring semester?) well delve into this a little more and have Wednesday help Bianca prove that the cult is dangerous and just wants peoples money, resolves Bianca's relationship with her mom, and stays at school??? No idea. A pal can hope. I also hope that its not thrown to be convoluted, but that "wellness" influencers n shit is/can be genuinely dangerous in the real world.]
Eugene's moms aren't in the story a lot, but personally I just think it was really sweet that the were super loving and supportive of him. Of course, we only saw them like once and it was when their son was in a coma. But still very sweet.
Seeing the students' relationships with their parents really helps form and clear what we might expect from the cast. What forms their decisions, what formed them.
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Radhika Apte is, yet again, amazing. Though, much like Monica, O My Darling and Raat Akeli Hai, I can't really say I enjoyed this movie as a whole.
I do love the premise of the movie. I think where the movie goes wrong, though, is not knowing what exactly what it wants to be. Serious spy movies are obviously plentiful, and even 'comedic' spy movies can be funny if done right (Get Smart; Johnny English) - aka, they go all-in on the comedy. Where this one struggles, though, is that it keeps trying to toe the line between both genres. And that just leads to a lot of things that don't fit, and a lot of random storylines that don't really ever get resolved.
There are scenes that really belong in a funny movie - the 'Rangeela' that plays whenever the character enters the movie, much like that overhead voice in Hera Pheri; the scenes where she's training herself to be a spy (well, mostly just doing James Bond-type montages in the house); Rangeela's many, many get-ups (which are, admittedly, a lot of fun); the scene(s) with the parents, the father who can't see and the mother who apparently randomly can't remember things, including who her husband is.
But then you've got the opposite extreme - the turncoat (a storyline that shows up out of the blue, unprompted, for a second before never being a thing again); the death of ALL of their other agents (despite this killer not having apparently killed any guys before); her two real fight scenes (on the street; in the basement); the obvious backdrop of women's rights/empowerment; the typical male character that her husband is played out as.
And like, it's just doesn't mesh together well because you're never sure if this movie is supposed to be funny (if it is, that beginning with *that* intense of a death scene really doesn't fit) or serious (if it is, how do you justify the idea of a secret agent that they're unwilling to give any training to?). And speaking of which - that beginning death scene was probably *too much* - like, showing him going back and forth made me feel sick, and they weren't even really showing much gore/blood (and you only heard the violence, didn't see it). It was just ... a lot.
And then, when all is said and done ... well, no. Before that. The whole thing of everything happens and then, when he's like "this evidence won't stick and I'll be out in four hours" (which is probably very valid), the answer being "everyone else leave and I'll beat him up" - like, what?! I mean, just logistically, what if he'd won? Then he'd be going free, doing the same - probably in another town - and you'd have lost a serial killer. But all the cops and agents just walk away, and she initially even sends all the other women away too (and, if we're being honest - yes, they have numbers, but none of them are killers as he is). I know she wasn't trained again as an agent, but that was a very, very stupid decision.
And, then, the end. Where Rangeela is essentially just like "this cover is over; time for a new mission" and they leave: um, what about her son? That wasn't a cover, that was her son. Sure, she left her husband and that was initially meant to be a cover, but how do you just say "it was a cover" as if she didn't have a son? Like, fine, if she has no attachment or whatever (though, it definitely seems throughout the movie as if she does), but how does he get to make that call? Isn't that exactly what this movie is like speaking out against?
I think a lot can be inferred about people, if we're being honest, by their reactions to her husband and his words/actions. Like, sure they have the 'extreme' version in the villain, but like, the husband here is the typical mindset of person that you usually see: things like "just a housewife," and his getting upset that she's dreaming about being like James Bond and not about him getting a promotion, and his anger about being asked to take his kid to school one day, and his total bullshit about "you went to school so I cheated on you," and his anger at her about talking to a neighbor when the son does something stupid, and his anger when she signs up for the program (and only passively relenting - but not really, given the cheating - when his mom essentially emotionally blackmails him into relenting)... it's just present everywhere. Which, honestly, kudos to the team behind the movie for doing it so well - it's just a mindset that so many people have, or have grown up with, that sometimes they don't even realize it. Him finally figuring it out is very much an extreme, of course (movie), but unfortunately, a lot of people don't figure it out.
But as much as the 'extreme' version in this movie is the actual bad guy (and deservedly so, because that entire thought process is sick and disgusting and needs to be eliminated), this passive person who perpetuates this cycle at home is maybe just as much of a threat. Unfortunately, in the swapping back-and-forth between comedy and serious thriller, the movie sort of bungles this message and loses it amidst everything else. Which is sad, because I think that is a message that really needs to be heard.
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Aerith, the Non-Optional Girl...
By FF_Goddess/Shiva of www.cloudandaerith.com
If you are interested in why I believe that Cloud's love for Aerith during the events of FFVII is not optional, then keep reading... Otherwise, thanks for stopping by! I hope this article gave you a clear view of why Cloud and Aerith fans believe they are the intended pairing of FFVII. :-)
Regardless of what choices you make during FFVII, it does not change these facts:
1. Cloud was attracted to Aerith from the beginning, admiring her radiant eyes and saying that her smile "was a good purchase".
* Cloud never admits any such thing about Tifa. In fact, he never makes any remarks on her appearance... ever.
2. Cloud and Aerith's meeting in the church was reproduced with Zack and Aerith in Crisis Core, giving Cloud and Aerith a direct parallel to Aerith's first romance as well as giving them a straightforward link to another canon couple in the same universe.
3. Cloud and Aerith meeting one another was described as "destiny" in multiple official sources.
4. Cloud agreed to become Aerith's bodyguard without asking for money. Instead, he accepts a date with her as payment.
* Cloud had just recently refused to fulfill his promise to Tifa, told her that her cause with Avalanche didn't mean anything to him, and also refused to help Avalanche further without being paid (and even more money than what he had received for his last mission with them).
5. Cloud smiles and laughs with Aerith. It is the **only** time during FFVII that he does either of these things.
* Tifa was not able to get Cloud to smile or laugh **at all** during the course of FFVII.
6. When Cloud is at Aerith's house, he remembers his mother telling him that the perfect girlfriend for him was someone older. As we all know, Aerith is one year older than Cloud.
* Tifa is one year younger than Cloud, which suggests that Cloud's mother would not have considered her an ideal match for her son.
7. Cloud and Aerith have a date in the park where they discuss Aerith's romantic past.
* Cloud never asks Tifa about her ex-boyfriends. In fact, he doesn't seem to care who she's been with.
8. Tifa is immediately jealous of Aerith and the bond she has formed so quickly with Cloud. The only reason for Tifa to be jealous is if she sees romantic interest between the two of them.
9. Cloud continually expresses concern for Aerith's safety whilst ignoring the fact that Tifa is in the same amount of danger. Cloud is also supportive when Aerith is frightened.
*By comparison, we have Cloud rudely demanding "Why'd you come along anyway?" when Tifa becomes scared before they jump from the train. The way he treats these two women is like night and day.
10. When Aerith is kidnapped, Cloud states he needs to rescue her "by all means!"
* Cloud ignores Tifa, who is drowning in her own guilt after the plate falls, and heads out to rescue Aerith with or without her.
11. Cloud braves Shinra HQ, a massive skyscraper crawling with his enemies, the most difficult quest he has faced so far, in order to rescue Aerith.
* Cloud is reluctant to rescue Tifa from Corneo because it means he will have to dress in drag.
12. Barret notices the change in Cloud when they are entering Shinra HQ, remarking that "there are times when even you fight for other people". This was said in response to Cloud's stony resolve to rescue Aerith, regardless of the risks involved.
* Barret knows that Cloud previously refused to fight for either he or Tifa without compensation.
13. Cloud mentions being Aerith's bodyguard right in front of Tifa. This is the deal he had made with Aerith, the deal where he is her protector in exchange for a date. If Cloud is bringing up his deal with Aerith, then that means he fully intends on collecting on that date with Aerith.
* Cloud never plans on any dates with just he and Tifa... ever.
14. When Tifa hears of Cloud's plans for a date with Aerith, she remarks rather harshly, "EXCUSE me." This was confirmed as a jealous outburst from Tifa when she saw them "developing their world together" and noticed the obvious "special bond" Aerith had with Cloud that was different than Tifa's bond with Cloud. Aerith's "special bond" with Cloud is clearly a romantic one or Tifa wouldn't be getting jealous.
* Aerith is **never** jealous of Tifa's bond with Cloud, which implies that she doesn't see anything romantic going on between the two of them. And, considering Aerith's ability to see inside the hearts and minds of others, this is a pretty profound statement.
15. Aerith's CG render is tied to her dream of riding the airship with Cloud. Cloud's CG render is of him just before he busts into Shinra HQ to rescue Aerith.
* Tifa's CG render is tied to her promise with Cloud.
16. When Aerith is feeling alone at Cosmo Canyon, Cloud tells her he is there for her and he wants to help.
17. Cloud and Aerith have a **second** date at the Gold Saucer. This is the default date for FFVII and is the only one being taken into consideration regarding the storyline. It is also the one date that makes sense as it is the **only** promised date within the game.
* Cloud doesn't date Tifa unless the player chooses to have him do so. In order to get the date with Tifa, the player has to play the game in a way that isn't considered "normal".
18. Cloud shows concern for Aerith when she cries over Tseng at the Temple of the Ancients.
* The night before the battle, when they are sitting under the Highwind, Tifa starts crying. And what does Cloud do? He looks away.
19. Cait Sith makes a prediction about "the affinity between Cloud and Aerith" which states that they are perfect for one another. He also predicts that they are destined to be married. Cloud makes no objections to this prediction, even if Tifa is present. Cait Sith remarks "Poor Tifa" regardless of whether Tifa is present or not.
20. It was confirmed that, despite the fact that Aerith dies, she and Cloud still have hope for a future together. Therefore, Cait Sith's prediction of Cloud and Aerith's "great future" stands firm.
21. Aerith is able to communicate with Cloud in his dreams due to her ability to speak directly to his heart. This implies a profound bond like that of soul mates.
22. Cloud tries to run after Aerith in his dream even before Sephiroth appeared and began to threaten her. This suggests that Cloud desperately did not want Aerith to leave.
23. Cloud and Aerith's lines together just before Aerith leaves are strikingly similar to those spoken in the play, Loveless, between a woman and her lover.
Cloud also first met Aerith under a sign for Loveless.
24. Cloud feels Aerith's presence in his **soul** and can hear her voice from distances so great that he could not possibly hear it with his physical senses.
This reinforces the idea that they are indeed soul mates.
* This kind of thing never occurs between Cloud and Tifa.
25. Sephiroth forces Cloud to beat Aerith and then attempts to make Cloud kill Aerith. This implies that Sephiroth knows Aerith is Cloud's weakness and being forced to harm her will cause Cloud the greatest amount of suffering.
26. When Sephiroth attempts to make Cloud kill Aerith, Cloud is able to resist Sephiroth's will. This is the **only** time in the game Cloud is able to overcome Sephiroth's mind control once he is under the evil maniac's influence.
27. When Aerith dies, Cloud holds her close and pours his heart and soul out in front of Sephiroth and everyone. He abandons his pursuit of Sephiroth and his quest to save the Planet, saying that none of it means anything to him anymore. And why? Because Aerith is gone.
* When Tifa lay dying in the Nibelheim Reactor, Cloud set her aside and went after Sephiroth. It was Tifa's teacher, Zangan, who considered her life more important than pursuing Sephiroth and it was Zangan who saved her life.
28. It was confirmed in Maiden of the Planet that Aerith's death broke Cloud's heart and he was consumed with grief over her death, blame toward himself, and hatred toward Sephiroth.
* When Cloud thought Tifa was dying, he said he was "really sad". o_0 Seriously?
29. Maiden of the Planet confirms that Aerith can hear the cries of Cloud's breaking heart. This ties her to his heart and soul once more.
30. In Maiden of the Planet, Aerith is surprised over Cloud's reaction to her death. She didn't realize how much she meant to him, which suggests that his feelings for her were not platonic in nature. After all, she knew they were friends before her death.
31. The game developers confirmed that, rather than the cliché of having a man die for the woman he loves, they decided to flip things and have a woman die for the man she loves. They also stated that they wanted to achieve an emotional impact on the player caused by seeing Cloud's pain ("feeling dazed at the gravity of the loss" caused by losing "someone you loved very much").
32. Cloud's companions come to offer him their condolences after Aerith's death. This suggests that they understand the depth of Cloud's feelings for Aerith.
33. Cloud alone is the one to put Aerith to rest at the spring. This indicates just how special Aerith was to Cloud.
34. After her death, Aerith can see that Cloud's heart is falling apart "from the sadness of losing her". Cloud is also being consumed by the "anger and hate he had for her being taken from him". And so we know Cloud considers Aerith's loss very personal: he "lost her" and she was "taken from him".
This suggest that Cloud considers Aerith an irreplaceable part of his life.
35. Even though Aerith was gone, Cloud continued to speak about her and remember her with fondness.
36. In the Lifestream, it is Aerith who guides Tifa into "Cloud's closed heart". What we can take away from this is that Aerith has access to Cloud's heart, even when it is closed to all others. Yet again Aerith is associated with Cloud's heart, just more proof that she is his soul mate.
37. Cloud promises Aerith that he will complete her mission and save the Planet she loved so well.
38. Cloud states that he is fighting to save the Planet and that one of the things he is fighting for is "a very personal memory". Since we know Cloud had promised Aerith that he would complete her mission to save the Planet, then naturally the personal element associated to his desire to save the Planet is Aerith.
39. Cloud also states that one of the reasons he is fighting is to free Aerith from Sephiroth's control: "Although she should've returned to the planet by now, something stopped her and now she's stuck...... We've got to set her free."
40. After Cloud defeats Sephiroth and is surrounded by Lifestream, he reaches toward the light with longing. Aerith reaches for him in return, both of them yearning to be reunited. In this scene, Cloud's actions clearly show that he wants to be with Aerith.
41. Earlier, Cloud told the Planet that he had come to show it everyone's wishes, including his and Aerith's. He then demanded an answer from the Planet.
While dangling from a ledge, he tells Tifa that the Planet had given him an answer to his wish: "The planet's answer... The Promised Land... I think I can find her there." If the Planet's answer to Cloud's question is that he can find Aerith in his Promised Land, then logically the question Cloud had asked of it previously was "How can I be with Aerith again? Where can I find her?" This shows two things: 1.) Cloud desperately wants to be with Aerith again, regardless of whether she is alive or dead. 2.) Cloud's Promised Land, the place where Cloud will find what makes him most happy, is associated with Aerith. And this is hardly a surprise since we already know she was the **only** person in the game who ever made him smile or laugh.
42. Cloud mentions his desire to be reunited with Aerith in his Promised Land right in front of Tifa, which makes it very clear that these two are not an item, regardless of what optional choices the player has made.
43. The lowest affection rating for Aerith in the game is 24. However, it is possible to completely eradicate all romantic interest in Tifa during the game, driving her affection rating all the way to zero.
So, there you go. These 43 facts remain regardless of what optional choices you make during the game, regardless of what optional scenes you get
(*COUGH*Highwind Scene*COUGH*), and regardless of which girl the **player** personally prefers. No matter what, Cloud is attracted to Aerith, protects her as his bodyguard, and goes on at least one date with her. No matter what, Tifa is jealous of the budding relationship between Cloud and Aerith. No matter what, Cloud and Aerith are confirmed to have a "special bond" and are predicted to be married. No matter what, Cloud is devastated over Aerith's death and one of the reasons he fights is for her. No matter what, Cloud is longing to be with Aerith at the end, reaching for her hand and asking the Planet how he can be with her again. No matter what, it is Aerith that Cloud wants to meet in his Promised Land. And, no matter what, it is impossible to use the affection rating system to eradicate all of the romantic affection between Cloud and Aerith.
Also, regardless of what optional choices you make, Cloud still makes his affection for Aerith clear right in front of Tifa. He calls himself her bodyguard in front of Tifa, bringing up a deal in which the result is Cloud dating Aerith. Cloud also doesn't object when Cait Sith offers to be the preacher at he and Aerith's wedding (even when Tifa is standing right there).
Cloud and Tifa fans like to assert that the High Affection version of the Highwind Scene is canon, even though they don't have any proof of this. They even go so far as to suggest Cloud and Tifa had sex under the Highwind, which is equally as absurd. And, yet, right after Cloud rescues Tifa from falling and they are clinging to the side of the Northern Crater, he says, right in front of her, that it is Aerith that he wants to see again in his Promised Land. And this is **after** he and Tifa supposedly confessed romantic feelings for one another (High Affection version of the Highwind Scene) and, according to rabid CloTis, had sex. If that is the case, then Cloud just used Tifa for sex, played her feelings, and dropped her like a rock.
Because it isn't Tifa that Cloud wants to be with in the place of supreme bliss (his Promised Land), it's a completely different woman (Aerith).
Also, Cloud demanded an answer from the Planet, remember? This is after he showed the Planet his wishes. His answer was that he could be with Aerith again if he could find the/his Promised Land. And so the wish he expressed to the Planet was quite obviously how he could be reunited with Aerith. This scene **also** took place after the supposed confession of love and alleged sex on pointy rocks under the Highwind. **IF** Cloud confessed romantic feelings for Tifa under the Highwind, then why would he be seeking a reunion with her confirmed "love rival"? **IF** Cloud confessed romantic feelings for Tifa under the Highwind, then why wasn't Tifa the one he states he wants to be with? Why wasn't his wish about her? And why doesn't he care about how she is feeling when he ignores her and says he wants to be with Aerith?
These scenes only make sense if you take the Low Affection version of the Highwind Scene into account. If Cloud and Tifa only shared feelings of a platonic nature, then they are only friends. And Cloud doesn't come off like a cold-hearted jerk who could care less about Tifa's breaking heart. If they are only friends, then it makes perfect sense why Cloud would be seeking a reunion with Aerith again instead of wanting to be with Tifa.
In my opinion, the Low Affection version of the Highwind Scene is the one being followed throughout the rest of the game as well as the Compilation (during which Cloud and Tifa are not portrayed as being in any romantic relationship and there has been **zero** progression toward a romantic relationship between them). Not only that, but the two Highwind Scenes are merely there for replay value and nothing more. While the **player** can choose for Cloud to show romantic interest in Tifa, it doesn't change the fact that he loves Aerith. In other words, Cloud's love for Tifa is **optional**.
Cloud's love for Aerith is **not optional**.
A good example is FFX, where Tidus can show romantic interest in Rikku or Lulu. Between Rikku and Lulu, it is Lulu that seems more inclined to show interest in Tidus, but it doesn't mean that either of them were intended to be Tidus's love interest. Regardless of any optional scenes or dialogues, regardless of affections levels, Tidus still loves Yuna and they are the intended pairing. The scenes with Rikku and Lulu were simply thrown in for replay value. They don't actually mean anything in the end. It is much the same between Cloud and Tifa.
Though Cloud can date Tifa, Yuffie, or Barret instead of Aerith, it doesn't change the fact that Cloud and Aerith love one another and are the intended pairing of FFVII. And, although Cloud has an optional scene with Tifa that may or may not show affection between them under the Highwind, it doesn't change the fact that Cloud and Aerith are the intended pairing of FFVII and Cloud loves Aerith regardless of any affection and/or optional scenes he might feel/share with Tifa (or anyone else).
An interesting note: Yuna is the default character for cut scenes when there is a tie, much like Aerith is the default character for the date scene at Gold Saucer, even if there is a tie between she and Tifa (or anyone else). Coincidence? I think not...
The bottom line? Cloud loves Aerith. The **player** can choose for Cloud to **also** love Tifa, but you cannot eradicate the love between Cloud and Aerith. He can love **both** Aerith and Tifa (optionally). Or he can love just Aerith. He cannot love just Tifa. This was the original intent when the game was created, regardless of the current fan-pandering stance that Square-ENIX has now taken.
One final thought in regard to Square-ENIX's fan-pandering... Throughout the Compilation and all spin-off games in which Cloud, Aerith, and Tifa appear, Cloud x Aerith gets actual solid proof while Cloud x Tifa gets fluff that seems to satisfy the fans, but doesn't actually have any true meaning to it. Want proof of that? Just read through my site... ;-)
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