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Mythology and History of the Collector

Part III of a series on why I think the Collector is an Angel from the third dimension of the TOH universe (mostly proven by the time of this installment) + theorization on the mythology and where the show is going for the little guy himself.

A - Existence of the Third Stars Dimension -> 2A - Why it is Heaven-like and the Collector an Angel B - History of the Demon Realm & Greek Mythology C - Who is the Collector (as a Character)?

A: Existence of 'The Stars' Dimension

When I began writing this post we didn't even have a concrete name for this and I referred to it as The Celestials. King's Tide briefly referenced the Collector being "a Child of The Stars", but until Thanks To Them it was uncertain if this was a place name or descriptor. I don't need to do much work to prove the existence of The Stars much more, but here's another reference of it in the show:

Plus an exshaustive amount of visual references to it mentioned in a similar post by Sabertoothwalrus. Very good reading on that post that accompanies this one well so do check it out.

Then we have my favourite analysis method of "find the sources of inspiration for the show and pull from there" which was the original basis of this theory. John Bailey Owens (the head writer) for the show posted this image on Twitter for promotion of King's Tide:

There is an easter-egg at the bottom of it which shows this painting in particular from Hieronymous Bosch - "The Garden of Earthy Delights". Eden, Earth, and Hell are depicted here - Hell especially beign cited as inspiration for the Demon Realm by Dana. It's no stretch to say that out of the two dimensions we currently know of, the Human World clearly resembles Earth and the Demon Realm is Hell. The original pitch for the show was a human girl (Luz) getting trapped inside of literal Hell. With the amount of religious influence in the show and the pre-existing dimensions, it makes sense logically and artistically for The Stars to be 'Heaven'.

I'm not even going to go into it here for sake of some levity, but I completely believe this is where magic and glyphs originated too. From the constellations in the Stars.

You should also keep in mind that the promotional art is literally depicting the Collector as a biblically accurate angel. Other evidence? Our lovely Xeno Robinsion (Hunter’s VA and king of accidentally leaking information) talking about TOH and referring to The Stars as being Heaven.

B: History of The Demon Realm and the TOH Gods

First of all - we need to be on the same page here that whatever the Collector is, and the Titans, are both (and so far the only known) actual gods. On top of the powerscaling of them both, these kids are the only two characters with distinct yellow and red eyes - which seems to be an art direction choice to indicate their status, and perhaps also a connection.

As Heaven existed before Earth and Hell, I believe the Stars existed before either the Demon or Human realm did. Furthermore, I believe The Stars are probably connected to both dimensions through their skies. The Collectors (tentative name) and The Titans I like to think, both originated from The Stars. Then there was a civil war.

In the bible, to the best of my non-christian knowledge, there was a war between the rebel angels and heaven that caused Hell to be created and the fallen angels banquished there. In Greek Mythology, a similar story plays out - the losers being The Titans who were banquished to the underworld of Tartarus by the Olympians. In the bible, the Nephilim / Titans / Giants were said to be the hybrid sons of the fallen angels.

We know The Titans ruled over the Demon Realm (already explained as Hell earlier). What if they, like the Titans in mythology, were banquished there by fellow Gods (the race of Collectors)? Perhaps they eventually came down to finish the job thousands of years later, with mass casualties on both sides.

Perhaps the Collector was the only child. Perhaps King's dad thought it too cruel to kill a child simply for being born on the enemy side, and resorted to trapping him in a disc instead. King's Dad was (obviously) alive when he trapped the Collector - then who killed him? It could not have been the tiny Titan Trappers. There had to be other Collector Gods.

C: Who is the Collector (as a Character)?

A child god, who just wants to play. He was a child trapped inside a war that he didn't quite understand, and rationialized it in their young brain as a game. Collectors (yes tentative name) vs Titans. Just like a few familiar someones:

It was surprising to a lot of people that The Collector genuinely only wanted to play with King when they were released. It might make more sense with this context provided. He might have guided the Titan Trappers to hunt down the last remaining Titans out of a miscommunication not to kill them, but as a game of Hide and Seek (the same game he proposes to King when they meet). He interpreted their hiding from ongoing war as a game.

It also seems bizarre to me that a character we pretty much all know they are going to redeem, would be responsible for a genocide.

I highly believe that the Collector is an orphan, too. The Owl House has a clear penchant for orphaned children, but more than that as I explained in another post, he fits the bill for "child-characters-who-get-adopted-into-the-owl-house-family".

Much like the reconcilliation of Humans and Witches is ongoing in the show, I would love to see the reconcilliation of the Titans and Collectors. I even hope that maybe King's Dad was a pacifist, who yearned for King to be born long after the war ended and mend things with the Collector himself - both as innocent children without prejudice for eachother. To open The Stars once more and allow free travel for humans and witches through.

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