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pizzaboat · a day ago
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A plan I think eda would totally be in favour of when she realises that there's a good chance they didn't kill Raine and replace them in their job, is saving Raine to stop the day of unity
I'm not saying the coven heads have human sacrifices written over their heads, but that's what they have.
I totally see them being promised an important role in the future just to be slaughtered like pigs, and I'd like to know why replacing coven heads is so hard if it's such a sacrifice the witch deal..
Did they pick the strongest cause their bodies could withstand something? Is that why scooter crane stepped down? Because they were old and would be a terrible match for Belos's plans?
It's a theory alright but I want eda to save Raine from getting fried by magic or something because yeah. Belos wants a portal, he wants power and magic, he wants to transport the titans head or body or whatever and I think the coven heads are gonna be the current/magic conductors or even batteries or whatever, I'm not an electrician or engineer or whatever but you catch my drift
Eda better save Raine or I theorise they're gonna die with the coven heads when they're sacrificed for the day of unity
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mira-blue · 3 months ago
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!! TOH SPOILERS !!
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this episode practically confirms that belos is capable of creating lifeforms - even ones that went extinct. he probably would have made other things, then - say...maybe even an entire witch who he raises for some unknown purpose?
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magizra · 4 months ago
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Brooo is anyone else seeing the similarities between Eda and Hunter?
Especially after the latest episode
The first thing that had me going 'hm' was the owl mask??
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And then the 'BYEEE' they both did in episode one of S2
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And now the flash behind move??
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ALSO, Hunter's got a cardinal for a palisman, and Dana said that was a Clawthorne thing 👀
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anistarrose · 4 months ago
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so King’s (dad? other relative?) has a wagon with an eye on it that looks just like the one in the S2 intro, except without the flames (like, even the white circular highlight is in the exact same place relative to the pupil)
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and the entrance to King’s temple is shaped like a keyhole...
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slinky-dogg · 2 months ago
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Bat Symbolism (Luz’s Palisman Prediction)
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Bats often represent death in the sense of letting go of the old, and bringing in the new.
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Whether that’s is breaking old habits, Ties with someone…
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Or forming new relationships…
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The bat is a guide, helping people to understand difficult situations
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And giving them the strength to make necessary changes.
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Note: I’m not saying Luz is gonna break tides with her Mom but we all know she doesn’t want to stay in the human realm. Unless she gets another working portal or the worlds are combined somehow, she’s going to mostly break her promise and stay in the demon realm.
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fluffiestmess · a year ago
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so it IS happening, huh
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HUH
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HUH????
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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riaria93 · 3 months ago
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Owl House 2x10: Yesterday’s Lie Spoilers
It’s theory time.
Okay, so we know now after the newest episode that Phillip had a brother that went with him to the Boiling Isles. One who looks very familiar.
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And then Phillip’s statue is familiar.
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And then there’s this book with a very familiar Cardinal on one of the brother’s shoulders.
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Now, we theorize that Hunter is a grimwalker. Which explains why Little Rascal chose him.
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And if Belos is Phillip’s grimwalker then Hunter is most likely a clone of this brother which makes Hunter calling him Uncle the truth. If that’s the truth maybe Belos did indeed lose his brother to wild magic…at Eclipse Lake where we know Phillip was the only one of his group to survive. We know spells bounce off the veins of the Titan, even decaying ones. What if a glyph or spell, some kind of wild magic was used and it killed Phillip’s brother. It’s that or the Fool’s Blood. Either way. I want to mention this scene.
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“This is my grave.” Umm, yeah. What if that really is where the brother is buried? That scene was bad enough already but suddenly Little Rascal desperately pulling Hunter up takes on an even darker meaning.
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kraviolis · 3 months ago
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here’s a completely innocent collection of images that definitely have no correlation to each other at all! :)
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astrolavas · 3 months ago
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OKAY. MESSY THEORY TIME CUZ LIKE my brain is workinggggg right now. puzzle pieces are being puzzle-pieced together. elaborate thoughts are being elaborately THUNK. so bear with me-
(toh spoilers warning)
so apparently, the two brothers were both "lured into a realm of evil by a witch"
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ONE OF THE BROTHERS was philip (and POSSIBLY belos), that we do know. the other one? he had a bird, kinda similar to a red cardinal, and oh, looked exactly like hunter. 
when you look at cravats and the overall outfits, then the dude who looks like hunter (the nose, the face shape, the tuft of hair) IS the dude with the bird, who in turn looks like hunter's palisman. SO philip's brother was most likely li'l rascal's original owner
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now, as for PHILIP, the dude DOES kinda look like belos????? the nose, the hair, the hair tuft, the jaw shape, the Suspiciously Small Ear... Yeah?? ig???
so if belos IS philip (cuz he surely ain't the other one based on just his features) then it's possible that sth happened to his brother and THAT's what made him averse to wild magic (or that there was some drama inbetween, sth happened, yadda yadda, the curse, who knows, etc. final effect the same)
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(the only thing that makes me hmmm about specifically belos being philip is cuz their voice actors are different. so?? is it just what philip sounds like in his "journal videos" but didn't sound like that irl, or did his voice/body change over the years, or did he body-swap, or is belos NOT philip? or is he partly philip? or is he just Related to philip, similarly as hunter is related to philip’s brother? well, we'll see)
been also wondering if maybe philip's brother was amongst his companions who didn't make it out of eclipse lake cuz of fool's blood, esp since precisely One of philip's companions had the exact same shoes as him..... but hmm dunno feels like he'd be more dramatic abt the accident in the journal if his brother had died (even though he never writes abt the fact that he even HAS a brother which is.. ok, sus), or (if he’s belos) he would be more careful abt hunter going there, and also that’s not rly enough of a “wild magic catastrophe” that’d make him HATE it, y’know? (or maybe, if it HAD happened like this, philip’s brother made it through one of the eclipse lake’s portals in time?? who tf knows) 
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SO ANYWAY, it's possible that hunter is either 1) a descendant of the brother, or even the brother’s son (if the human had managed to live that long, somehow?? but that'd explain the "uncle" title of belos, if he’s philip), which would make him part-human, WHICH would explain perfectly why he can't do natural magic;
OR 2) it's possible that hunter rly IS a clone, except not belos' but the brother's. but how would that work? and would that rly make hunter a grimwalker? AND how would that work with the “witchy ears but a clone of a human” situation? (unless the ears are pointy just cuz he is a grimwalker/made of magic, like maybe it’s a characteristic trait just like his pink/red eyes. and then maybe he doesn’t have magic cuz he’s still like. a clone of a Human, or cuz grimwalkers just don’t have it, or cuz sth went wrong with galderstones while making him????) (also ADDITION but one of the listed ingredients for a grimwalker is a “bone of ortet.” the definition of ortet goes as follows: “the original plant from which the members of a clone have descended, created through rooted cuttings, grafting, or tissue culture” which is basically a botanical term but. it sure DOES sound like, in this case, bone of the original individual’s (AKA philip’s brother’s) could be somehow used to create their clone (AKA hunter). just... a Possibility)
aaand yeah, then there's also the question of WHY belos would do all that at all
because basically, we still don't know WHY belos needs hunter. he keeps saying that "the titan has big plans" for him and it'd be "such a hassle" to replace him. so. WHAT ARE THE PLANS?? what could they POSSIBLY be, like????? what is gonna happen on the day of unity? if belos is philip, does he need his brother (OR just his clone/descendant) to do some kinda ritual on the day of unity? or does he want to bring back his brother, using hunter as a vessel? or???? literally WHAT does belos want with hunter????? get a JOB stay away from him
(also a BIG stretch but lol was wondering why the crows were circling specifically only philip's statue like that. so i googled it (for funsies) and apparently crows are a symbol of: transformation, life mysteries, magic, alchemy...... and lowkey the emperor's coven IS bird/crow-themed too so hm) (probably a coincidence tho lol)
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but yea, no idea what happened to the brother lol. IF belos is philip, then narratively it'd make sense if sth happened with him and wild magic, that would make belos/philip start hating it. but also the portal WORKED and there are their statues in the human realm and a book abt them going to the realm so maybe he just left for good? except then why didn't philip? and then how did the curse come to being? like what HAPPENED (we don’t know, we don’t have enough info)
SO LIKE. THERE'S..... LOTS of context we're missing so this is all taken from scraps and will only start making sense once we get more hints but like njxkjjkxs i dunno man, i'm looking i'm thinking i am thinking 👀👀
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ur-average-lesbian · 5 months ago
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Ya know this does make sense, most demons that we know of r depicted as these huge demons, when in reality they are not.
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mira-blue · 4 months ago
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!! TOH SPOILERS !!
no but Keeping Up A-Fear-Ances sheds a lot of light on lilith's motives with cursing eda. it doesn't justify or excuse it in any way - but it certainly explains it and puts the season one finale in a new light. it's shown that eda's always been the child who gets the parents' attention - even before she was cursed.
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lilith was constantly pushed to the side by their mother despite clearly wanting that approval and validation so badly, both as a child and as an adult. heck, she hadn't seen her mother in years - unlike eda, who gets regular visits (totally not blaming eda here, gwendolyn messed up with her just as much).
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so when it turned out that there was only one spot availble in the emperor's coven? lilith probably immediately assumed that eda would win - she's always been more gifted - and as much as she loved her sister, she knew (or at least thought she knew) that losing would shove her into eda's shadow forever. and thus, the curse came into play.
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and the more hints get dropped about this curse, the more certain i am that it was given to lilith by someone with ulterior motivations. someone who had something against the clawthornes. someone who thought it would be funny to give the bird themed family a bird themed curse.
because that's quite the coincidence, isn't it?
one more thing - gwendolyn says she joined the beast keeper's coven after eda was cursed. that means she joined a cover pretty late into her life, when we've seen people as young as freshly graduated students join a coven. why? could it be that she shares eda's view of not wanting to limit her magic and that's why she always favoured eda? could that be why someone ruined the clawthornes' lives? and what the hell is creepy luz? who on earth was that other human? WHY DID LILITH HAVE TO LEAVE HOOTY SO SOON?
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cottoncandycorn · 3 months ago
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excuse me but
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😐 this is more than just "the same ponytail"
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anistarrose · 6 months ago
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wake up babes, new king and belos parallel just dropped
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also, from the Deadline article announcing the S3 renewal and S2's air date:
Season Two picks up immediately following the confrontation with Emperor Belos and finds our heroes working together to return Luz to the Human Realm, help Eda confront her inner demons, and search for the truth about King’s past.
HMM.
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wayward-delver · 2 months ago
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Is it just me, or are there a lot of Lumity Parallels between Gus & Matt? I am not going to go on a long essay over how they’re similar cause I believe you’re smart enough to piece it together on your own, but I will say this. If Dana didn’t have any plans for Matt, he wouldn’t have so many voiced cameos throughout the show and promotional material/art. Nor be allowed much character development after his first appearance, especially not to be a major role in a plot relevant episode like Through the Looking Glass Ruins.
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 Unlike characters like Boshca, most of these aren’t antagonistic. He’s more often just as a butt-monkey to his own ambition or whatever shenanigans are happening around the Boiling Isles. It’s made abundantly clear in these moments and his backstory that his bullying behavior is based more on him simply lashing out than actual cruelty/malice. And his redemption and friendship with Gus not only came in his 2nd big episode, but the same time Luz and Amity had their first kiss. Shipping or not, I highly doubt this is the last we’ve seen of Mattholomule or his dynamic with Gus.
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Just going to leave this here cause it’s cute.
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