#iirc he had some lines about wanting the indie/theatre actors to play off each other which is fine

[stars-inthe-sky]

MCU isn’t my fandom and I’ve never seen Age of Ultron. But I love drama so please tell me: What in the ever-living fucks is “Joss Whedon’s boob trampoline”?

This, unfortunately:

The original 2012 Avengers movie, with the same cast and same director (Whedon), was largely great. The 2015 followup was...emphatically not. The thing reeks of all the stuff the MCU has done poorly since—incoherent action sequences, plot advancing characterization rather than vice versa, rushing to introduce new people and references to the comics, too much dependence on other movies (past and future)—but the forced, poorly written, terribly rationalized pairing of Bruce and Natasha was particularly awful.

I do remember a WHOLE bunch of fandom friends checking in with me after the thing came out to see if I was all right. Which I was, I will just die mad about this as the crown jewel for all the reasons Whedon massively disappointed me, personally, fuck you dude.

#stpauligirl #chitchat #iirc he had some lines about wanting the indie/theatre actors to play off each other which is fine #but as a romantic pairing it was so bad AND so poorly done #i've read fic that made it work and this was not that #it was basically a shoehorned 'beauty and the beast but the beast is a nerd and the beauty doesn't think she's beautiful on the inside' #which is bad and unoriginal to begin with #but also turned out to be just...typical whedon and made me never want to revisit xander harris again you know? #not to mention totally undermining SO MANY good and important and distinct things about natasha's characterization #and backstory #the black widow movie definitely punched back on some of them #but it's not the just the ship thing it's also that she was made to think about leaving behind the good fight #THAT'S NOT WHO SHE IS #or the stupid fucking 'i'm a monster because i can't have children' monologue which was the absolute worst #whedon wank #a tag i would love to never use again AND YET #come with me if queue want to live