#im sitting by the fire drinkin and reading and i figured id finally answer this sorry it took me so long!

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ok so. basically i think both abby and cecil were born before 1983 and their mom was an encarnation of huntokar (their dad might be an encarnation of the smiling god or just some dude that worships him, eitger way) but in 1983 huntokar accidentally harmed her conection to night vale, and from this point on the childrens mom started acting distant/not acknowledging either bc her mind was "on another plane" or mourning cecil that died on at least 1 version of 1983

so its taken me forever to respond to this, a. Bc ive written so much abt it before and i think it was better than i wrote here, and b. bc i was searching for posts neck deep in my archives to help explain but only found some

post 1 — comparing 171 and 192 quotes

post 2 — about episode 183– more general theories

(i had a post somewhere where i verbally vomited into the tags abt night vale being a post war landscape trapped in time but i can find it)

okay now that those r out of the way im gonna ramble a lot and its not gonna make sense probably bc im a little drunk on topo chicos

cecil exsists (i think as a radio host too) in every timeline/reality. i remember this being said but i cant give an episode number bc i dont remember where. he is always reporting and he is referred to as the voice of night vale.

we know that night vale was split off from reality in 1983 when the world had a nuclear war by huntokar. huntokar “ existed in the mudwomb” she wanted to “protect and nurture humans” and ”became attatched to her version of night vale so she saved it causing all version of it to collapse inward on itself“ — quotes from the fan wiki (i mention the mudwomb bc in 192 cecil sees either himself or his dad climbing out of the mud at the base of a tree)

my theory is that night vale was saved and chosen as a favorite by huntokar bc she became more human by loving cecil as her child. There is a whole monologue in that episode (stone spire arc or huntokar episode i think) about how the humans of night vale forgot why they worshipped and wore meat crowns and what it meant to worship gods, but huntokar also mentions she loses sight of what she is (i think it was implied if not said) and she became too attached to the humans and the town (Thus why she saves Night vale)

i think cecil is a god who has forgotten what he is— he knows events before they happen or as they happen, he is intertwined in Every Major Event, he knew when the other gods were coming, and he is immortal. he knew old woman josie as a young adult and i assume he looks 40-50 bc thats what carlos’ age is around. he is an oracle. he says his mother was an oracle (figurative or literal) he doesnt know his father (a common theme in myths abt gods and demi gods) etc. AND the knly way the town gets to hear Huntokar and her story is through the radio. Cecil was around before the invention of it (mentioned during his europe trip i think)

i think his love of science and night vales affinity for science is a replacement for religion to explain why things are the way they are. science is essentially night vales belief system. (This post explains this more)

cecil cant look at himself in a mirror bc of a monster he sees— but i also think its bc he is a literal god he cannot look upon himself in a mirror (there is a lot of judaism themes in wtnv, one of the writers is jewish after all, and i believe that that is done purposefully. cecil’s v existence, to me, feels like hes caught in in a never ending shiva)

(From this wiki article abt shiva)

do u get the connections im making? Especially with the paragraph on mirrors and judaism?

i think it makes sense that she is his mom if u pick up what im puttin down idk ! Idk idk its just fun to theorize and analyze haha

#im sitting by the fire drinkin and reading and i figured id finally answer this sorry it took me so long! #I hope it makes some sort of sense! #its sort of just theories i squash together and hope people can make the leaps my brain is makkng #Thanks for the ask ! #wtnv #wtnv headcanon #welcome to night vale #huntokar #cecil palmer #i also hc cecil as literally just being a Normal Guy who is omniscient but all my theories live in a vaccum haha #They dont cancel out #long reads #long post