#jane also always had the kids in mind. kenny was beating the shit out of a hostage while jane was keeping clem from

[frosty-the-killer-doll]

i think i hate the walking dead game fandom

#i rewatched a play through of season 2 #the way people treat kenny v. jane. they dont even see the misogyny. like kenny and jane are such foils to each other #they're excusing kenny's behavior and then blaming jane when she's gone thru all the same shit kenny has #losing their entire family? check. losing their romantic partner? check. #'kenny always had clem in mind' i guess arvo never existed huh #jane also always had the kids in mind. kenny was beating the shit out of a hostage while jane was keeping clem from #literally freezing to death #RIGHT RIGHT after the guy she liked died btw #meanwhile when kenny's gf died he was the biggest dick ever #and was just. a threat to clem's safety all around #in THIS playthrough #and still all the comments are on kenny's side #y'all fucking dumb.

[dragynkeep]

The worse thing to constantly think about TWDG is that characters consistency are shit when they're not Clem. Kenny has a very strong character when it comes to people he loves (will always cry when he leave for Clem and AJ to live) but he's...a lot, Lily remained strong even when losing her father and pulled through for everyone....but she would willingly mutilate a child, so much of their personalities are weird af and I wish Telltale was a bit more consistent with them

I don't think it's much a consistency issue as it is just missing the middle man, and also the two examples being wholely unlikeable outside of S1. But what gets me is that the way they're treated by the actual writers and story.

Both are unlikeable, but Kenny is constantly fucking babied by the narrative and the fandom, to the point where you're constantly expected to side with him and the arguable best endings are his. He either is treated as this dad figure that Clementine can't bear to leave, or he's the hero who, despite all his flaws, sacrificed his own safety so that Clementine and AJ had somewhere to live peacefully.

Compare that to the alone ending, where it's heavily pushed that Clementine is now forever changed and it's sad to survive on her own, which it is. Or the Jane endings were Clementine is either shown to be a heartless survivor like Jane, or her trust in new people is misplaced because they end up bad.

Nevermind that Kenny is abusive, racist, stupid and just downright hostile in S2, I hated every second he was on screen because he didn't need to be there. His arc was done! He learned to forgive the boy who got his family killed and sacrificed himself so that Ben didn't have to feel pain! It was good!

And I'm sorry, but Lilly was nowhere near as bad as Kenny in S1. The worst thing she did was shoot Carley/Doug after snapping, and if we're supposed to ignore Kenny wanting to abandon Ben to die in Episode 4, far more painfully I might add, then I'm sure the game can push us to be understanding to this.

Except oh wait, S4 brought her back and after Episode 2, just made her into Evil Woman who mutilates kids. I didn't even mind Lily being an antagonist at first, Episode 2 did great imo in fleshing her out through her relationship to Clementine, giving her a good characteristic that made Lilly more nuanced.

Until they just gave up and most of the fandom decided she was EvilTM. Kenny is good ol Uncle Kenny who might have said slurs and beat a kid half to death, but Lilly is pure EvilTM.

The way this series treated these two characters make me wanna cry.

Kenny apologists do NOT interact, I will pour cement in your water pipes.

#twdg #twdg critical #kenny critical #lily critical #answered #luke.txt #im sorry i dont stan the ugly racist who feels like he would also call me homophobic slurs