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#laena was betrothed for 10 years in canon
inmydrcams · 2 years
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a very long betrothal between viserys and laena would’ve been a super smart choice. she’s 12 so there’s no use in actual marriage for like 6 years (18 was a way more acceptable marriage age than 14, go to hell grrm) so that gives viserys time to grieve while not having to entertain other marriage options and since the show is going hard with ~he’s dying~ or wtv he could just bid his time until he died what might end in the marriage not even happening 
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villainelle · 3 months
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House of the Dragon: Season 1 Timeline (112—132AC)
— 81 AC*: Birth of Daemon Targaryen, (16 years older than Rhaenyra) — 97 AC*: Birth of Rhaenyra Targaryen*, Alicent Hightower and Laenor Velaryon — 110 AC: Birth of Laena Velaryon — 101 AC*: The Great Council takes place at Harrenhal. Rhaenyra is four years old, so Aemma is pregnant with one of her siblings.
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— 103 AC*: Death of King Jaeherys, and start of King Viserys' reign.
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— 112 AC: "The Heirs of the Dragon" is set in 112AC according to HBO. This keeps Jaeherys' death (103 AC) and Daenerys' birth (284 AC) same as book canon. Alicent and Rhaenyra are both 14, according to the script & their actresses.
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— 112 AC: "The Rogue Prince" takes place roughly 6 months later, and Rhaenyra has turned 15, keeping her birth year as 97AC. Laena is 12 years old, making her birth year 100 AC. Daemon is 31, according to Emma D'Arcy.
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— 113 AC: Birth of Aegon II Targaryen (9 months of pregnancy = 113AC). Alicent and Rhaenyra are 15 (nearly 16) years old when she gives birth.
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— 115 AC: "Second Of His Name" takes place 3 years later. It is Aegon's 2nd name-day. The war in the Stepstones has lasted three years and Alicent is in the last months of her pregnancy with Helaena. Rhaenyra is 17, nearly 18 years old.
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— 115 AC: Birth of Helaena Targaryen — 115 AC: Laena claims Vhagar
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— 115-116 AC (1st option): Birth of Aemond Targaryen. As Alicent is not visibly pregnant in the next two episodes, Aemond could have been born during this skip, making him and Helaena less than 12 months apart.
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— 116 AC: "King of the Narrow Sea" takes place a year later, as Aegon is said to be 3 years old, making Haelena making 1 year old. Rhaenyra is 18, nearly 19 years old and Daemon is 35.
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— 116 AC: "We Light The Way" takes place a day or days after the previous episode. Laena is 16 years old.
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— 116-117 AC: Birth of Jaecerys Velaryon & Baela Targaryen. Unlike F&B where they are twins, according to HBO Baela is Rhaena's older sister. — 116-117 AC (2nd option): Alternative year for the birth of Aemond Targaryen, however this would make him only 15/16 by the season's finale — 118 AC: Birth of Lucerys Velaryon & Rhaena Targaryen.
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— 126 AC: "The Princess and the Queen" takes place 10 years after the previous episode. Ages are as follows: Daemon (45), Rhaenyra/Alicent (28/29), Laena (26), Aegon (13), Helaena (11), Aemond (10-11), Jaecerys/Baela (9-10), Lucerys/Rhaena (8), with Joffrey having just been born.
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— 126 AC: "Driftmark", takes place only days later. Helaena and Aegon are betrothed between this and the previous episode.
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— 126-132 AC: Birth of Aegon III & Viserys II. Also birth of Jaehaera & Jaehaerys (either 126AC if immediate, or 128AC if Helaena is 13 years old as in F&B). — 132 AC: "Lord of the Tides" takes place 6 years later. It It's been nearly 20 years since the pilot (112 AC). The ages are as follows: Daemon (51), Rhaenyra/Alicent (34/35), Aegon II (19), Helaena (17), Aemond (16-17), Jacaerys/Baela (15-16), Lucerys/Rhaena (14), Joffrey (6).
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— 132 AC: "The Green Council" takes place the morning after Viserys' death.
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— 132 AC: "The Black Queen" takes place a day after the previous episode. Rhaenyra remarks Lucerys is fourteen years old, making his birth year 118AC, same as Rhaena.
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[note: * = same as book canon]
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horizon-verizon · 1 year
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What made Rhaenyra x Alicent so popular when it's very badly written and don't make sense story-wise?
To oversimplify it, and there is a lot of overlap:
A)
Because they don’t know the actual canon story. 
Some believe that because Ryan Condal and some of the show writers read Fire and Blood, they know what they are doing and what’s presented on screen is what happened in canon. (This is dependent on them not caring to engage more and/or not being people who care to think more about what they are consuming).
B)
Because wish fulfillment.
These two women in canon lore where 9 years apart in age with Alicent being the older and hated each other. Because we have:
two women hating each other and fighting for power
the use of the evil stepmother trope
we have some people think these in of themselves indicate sexist writing. A case of women fighting each other because their womenhood makes them vulnerable to competing for scarce resources that men determine for them.
And many people feel that they could have been friends if only the men around them didn’t force them into it. (Meanwhile, this was not the case at all and an extreme misunderstanding of medieval society.)
C)
Because misunderstanding feminism.
Some think that female friendships, by themselves, are enough to gainsay male aggression on a systematic level. Thus they find the relationship inspirational and ignore details or inconsistencies. 
Despite the fact that Rhaenyra and Laena Velayron had a deep friendship in the canon lore. Maybe even a romantic connection. They connected after Laena and Daemon came back from Pentos to birth her last child. Gyldayn writes that:
Whilst Princess Rhaenyra misliked her stepmother, Queen Alicent, she [Rhaenyra] became fond and more than fond of her good-sister Lady Laena. With Driftmark and Dragonstone so close, Daemon and Laena oft visited with the princess, and her with them. Many a time they flew together on their dragons, and the princess’s she-dragon Syrax produced several clutches of eggs. In 118 AC, with the blessing of King Viserys, Rhaenyra announced the betrothal of her two eldest sons to the daughters of Prince Daemon and Lady Laena. Jacaerys was four and Lucerys three, the girls two. And in 119 AC, when Laena found she was with child again, Rhaenyra flew to Driftmark to attend her during the birth.
(Fire and Blood; A Question of Succession)
This is our canon female friendship of the Dance, which makes so much more sense with their shared personality trait -- daring -- and genuine love for dragonriding. 
I do not want to say that the people who do ship Rhaenyra and Alicent -- or the actors who played them who acted as if these two characters did have some sort of pseudo-romance -- are all brainless. I mean to say that some don’t bother to actually get to know, analyze, or read between the lines of the text for the sake of shipping and superficial enjoyment from seeing two women share intimacy where before, in the canon, they were enemies since Rhaenyra was 10.
They see women-as-enemies as unrealistic or simplistic when the story and context is anything but. If anything, the story shows us the multiplicity of women...you know because they are human. Who want power and still be flawed (Rhaenyra) or evil (Alicent). 
Basically, they think that making a saint or pacifying women is feminism. When it’s actually pedestalizing them and making men “natural” aggressors. And making women into passion-less, ambitious-less pawns for men to use AND assigning their worth to how and when they have sex.
This idea of men-evil-and-women-helpless/pacifists is prevalent in our current society (consider this POST by @rhaenyragendereuphoria).
D) 
Because some are very anti-intellectual and anti-feminism. Misgoynists.
They hate that their idea of femininity is being criticized. This ideal of women-want-power instead of simply being a good wife, mother, “soft”, etc.
E)
Because there are those who genuinely just find both Emma D’Arcy and Olivia Cooke are very attractive and see the show as just something to be apart of the zeitgeist of. 
They don’t want to engage any deeper than that. 
Some might feel “attacked” and dig in their heels and try to find justification to keep shipping the two. Pride then may come into it.
F)
Because performative activism, capitalism and marketing. 
This POST by @brideoffires. Quote:
It’s all part of this phenomenon of liberal identity politics oriented fandom “activism” which takes “critical capitalist consumption” as a form of ethical social justice. Capitalist consumption is rendered acceptable under neoliberalism if it conforms to specific parameters, such as identity and representation politics, so nowadays everyone can’t read literature or watch film without looking for ways that they are problematic on an individual level (without looking at, for example, how these books or shows may be written by people funded by imperialist weapons manufacturing companies or finance capital companies).
But by all means, use this as a place to begin to learn more about performative activism. Come to your own conclusions and be open to discussion.
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dragonbanexxi · 1 year
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Soul of Bronze; Blood of Fire
Not Canon Compliant!!!
Helaena Targaryen x OC Targaryen Royce
The Heir of Runestone would often joke that he should be referred to as Rhaegar Stone. Seeing as his father (Prince Daemon Targaryen) had no want for him and his mother (Lady Rhea Royce) was long dead. All jokes end when he and Ser Gerold Royce are summoned to the capitol by none other than King Viserys the First of his Name. The King wanting nothing more than to bring his estranged nephew into the fold, Viserys offers Rhaegar his so called Targaryen Right. A betrothal to the Princess Helaena and the chance to claim a dragon. Will Rhaegar be able to claim such a beast? Even if his valyrian skills were lacking? Prince Aemond seems to think so. Though he’s mostly is just thrilled to finally have someone around who’s willing to be his friend. Also the court begins to notice that the Princess Helaena seems to have taken a liking to the new prince. Much to her mothers dismay, who’s fighting tooth and nail to have the girl be given to Aegon. Something neither sibling wanted. To Rhaegar everything was going smoothly until the news of Laena Velaryon death had dampen everything.
Chapter 10: Ser Laenor
“You all should have seen him! My nephew a top the fearsome Cannibal, commanding it as if it were a mere puppy!” The King spoke in a fatherly tone of pride. “How could I not reward such a brave accomplishment. Rhaegar Targaryen will be a man of legend! I just know it.”
The Queen and her great nemesis the Princess Rhaenyra share a look unease. Both trying to hide their worry behind a cool facade and both failing miserably.
Now Ser Laenor actively attempts to avoid getting stuck between the crossfire of the royal women, but there is one thing that he couldn’t deny. Neither Alicent or Rhaenyra knew how to be happy about things that didn’t involve them or their children.
Alicent, he assumes, is fuming that his grace is boasting his nephew in way that he never does her children, they’re always a second thought to him. It must pain her that in the few weeks that Rhaegar has been here at court; he’s managed to consume the kings attention by simply breathing.
Of course Viserys was quite taken with Rhaegar. The boy is serving to fill a void that Prince Daemon left behind.
Rhaenyra no doubt sees it too. His wife hasn’t said anything negative about the boy, but it doesn’t take a scholar to tell that she’s jealous. All her life Rhaenyra has been second to no one when it comes to the kings affection. The only person in that aspect to be her equal was Daemon. Yet Daemon has been in self imposed exile for seven years now and Rhaenyra remained.
Now all of a sudden a boy of barely ten and four years has swooped in taking her fathers attention from her… it’s hilariously really. Ser Laenor couldn’t help but smile sheepishly at his wife. She returns a look of confusion but it was gone as soon as it came.
Rhaenyra’s eyes land her little cousin “Well congratulations Ser Rhaegar.” Her smile didn’t reach her eyes. “Pray tell, how did you manage to bond with such a wild beast?”
All eyes land on the handsome boy, too young for knighthood. “Well to be honest…” the boy begins to blush.
Causing the Princess Helaena to giggle. The eerie girl was probably the only one in her family to be content with her betrothal. Her lilac eyes somehow coming alive when Rhaegar crosses her line of vision.
“I had tried to use the few valyrian commands my cousins taught me. They didn’t work at all.”
Hums and ohs were sputter among them. Confusion engulfing the air.
“Honestly I got frustrated and began to yell commands in the common tongue but that didn’t work either. It wasn’t until I got truly desperate and yelled in the old tongue that the Cannibal began to obey.”
“By the fourteen flames…” Viserys whispers his amethyst eyes growing wide.
Rhaenyra and Ser Laenor glancing at each other, no words need to be spoken between them. A dragon only obeying commands in the old tongue? That was unheard of. Not to mention dangerous.
“Cousin I don’t want to be the one to ruin the joyous ambiance however this is odd. I mean It’s never happened before.”
The boy nods his head slowly as if he didn’t know how to respond. Ser Laenor sees a look hesitation in the boys face.
“What my wife means to say is that, the bonds created by our ancestors and the dragons originated from Valyrian blood magic. For a dragon to not understand our mother tongue well…” His words left unsaid.
“It doesn’t matter if the dragon understands the old tongue or moraqi, it is now bonded with my nephew for as long as they live.” His grace says as he gives the boy a proud pat on his back. “I know the gods would prove my decision to betroth my little daughter to Prince Rhaegar correctly.”
Ser Laenor couldn’t contain his laugh. The boy had no control over his blushes at all. The Little Knight blushing like a bright cherry.
“Well there is still sometime before they actually get married.” Queen Alicent said snippily. “Still it is quite a feat to be knighted so young my dear. May the Seven light your way.” The kings heir rolls her eyes, inconspicuously of course.
“Thank you your grace.” His tone polite.
Hours later the silver haired couple sat in their private chamber enjoying a bottle of Arbour Gold. Their boys were already put to bed yet the night was still quite young, they sit comfortably in each others presence.
“He’s nothing like his father” Rhaenyra says out of nowhere, “nothing like Daemon at all.”
Laenor takes a quick swig from his goblet before saying “Well that’s to expected, the boy doesn’t even know him.”
The princess sighs deeply as she stares into the auburn flames of the chimney. Her amethyst eyes seem to be longing for someone. No doubt Daemon, the Velaryon man muses. Since entering their marriage both he and wife had grown exceptionally close. While there’s was not a love marriage in the romantic sense for obvious reasons, their relationship had blossomed to that of sibling affection. Thus her feelings for her uncle were no secrect to him. Rhaenyra was no doubt Ser Laenor’s best friend, now that communication between he and his true born sister was scarce. Still Laenor was grateful for his wife who lets him live and indulge in his pleasures.
Rhaenyra still has her eyes on the burning flames. Twirling her ruby ring around her finger.
“My father wants Rhaegar around longer… You know some days ago he and my cousin were in his study…” she begins with an odd tone. “I had let myself in, having something urgent to say to his grace, but since he was speaking with Rhaegar he made me wait outside until they were done.”
Ahh Ser Laenor now understands it’s the freshly planted seed of bitterness. Rhaenyra has never been made to wait to speak to the King. Ever. She must feel pushed to side by his graces newly acquired affection for his nephew.
“You’re jealous” a teasing tone oozing out Ser Laenor’s mouth. The glare it earns him was epic, it makes him smile smugly.
“The Realm’s Delight jealous of a little country mouse” he snickers. Not all afraid of Rhaenyra’s growing annoyance.
“He’s proving to be anything but a little country mouse” Rhaenyra says solemnly. Ignoring her husband who was still giggling like a freshly crowned Queen of Love and Beauty.
“You should have seen him Rhaenyra. Flying atop that obsidian beast, he looked like a valyrian warrior commanding his dragon.”
“As if he needs any more accomplishments for my father to be taken with him.” She grumbles.
“He’s just a boy.” The Knight smiles at his wife. She’s not use to being treated like her siblings and isn’t taking well to being second best. An amusing thought that the little princess isn’t getting her way. This new dynamic was bringing great enjoyment to the sea lord. Though he would never tell his wife that.
“You need to set aside these feelings of jealousy wife.” His voice now serious. He rubs his chins, in a thoughtful manner.
“Rhaegar will one day be lord of Runestone. The Royce’s aren’t a large house but they do have great wealth.” A vast wealth that could help defend Rhaenyra’s cause one day. Having her cousin on her side would benefit her greatly, his wife just needs to sway the boy to her side. He sets his goblet down in the small tea table before them. “We can thank the boy’s mother for that. In her short time as the lady of Runestone, she increased their income tenfold.” And it was true. No house bred finer steeds for combat than House Royce.
The beautiful woman scrunches her nose at the mention of Rhaegar’s mother. Though Ser Laenor had never met the late Lady Royce, he did have to put up with Daemons constant complaining about his ‘Bronze Bitch’. Rhaenyra must only know Lady Royce through the perspective of her uncle. Thus making her opinion biased.
“I suppose.” Was all his wife responds with.
“He’s a great boy Rhaenyra. Also our sons and your brothers enjoy him as well.” He gets up from the cushioned chair and stretches his arms up. “Let these notions of childish jealousy go. Besides the boy is to return back to Runestone soon and your reign as the King’s favorite person will begin anew.”
He walks away leaving his wife deep in thought.
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inmydrcams · 2 years
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my main divergences for laena
my fc is chinese so I am using chinese mythology for her dragon. in my canon vhagar has no wings and has control over water instead of fire. I am not asking other valyrian writers to match me but that’s what makes sense to me with my fc choice.
her children are not daemon’s. when her betrothed was killed after being betrothed for 10 years she flew off to essos cause she needed distance from all the drama at court. there she got involved with someone and had the twins out of wedlock. at some point her and daemon’s paths crossed and she had a dream about how she should go back to westeros. they married so they could go back to westeros with as little scandal as possible. it meant laena’s children had a father and it meant daemon was closer to the throne.
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inmydrcams · 3 years
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my canon for laena is that she still nopes out to the free cities cause she’s tired of politics and how her father has kept her betrothed to the same dude for 10 years and she wants to see a little more of the world. if she does have the twins then I’d say their father is not daemon but laena doesn’t really talk about it and she does go back to driftmark with the children then befriending rhaenyra.
daemon’s involvement can be that he suggested that she could just fly away and do whatever she could and that rhaenys asked him to go get her after she was gone for too long. if they do marry it’s just so there isn’t too much whispering at court over the twins and it helps daemon be closer to court.
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