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#rotb Optimus is what bayverse Optimus was trying to be there I SAID IT
cookie-waffle · 5 months
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“Bayverse Optimus was mentally ill. That’s why he’s so violent and angry” is really not the progressive take you think it is, guys
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cyberrose2001 · 11 months
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Hi Rose!!! Can you rate the characters from rotb?
I personally don't have a solid opinion yet, I have to watch it again.
I’ll try my best! (ROTB Spoilers ahead)
Also yeah you kinda have to watch it twice bc there are some things on the second watch that I didn’t catch on the first.
1. Mirage: THIS DUDE…. He was so fucking funny the whole cinema was laughing so hard, especially the “Work friends?! You’ve been inside me…” it was such a good innuendo. Personally he was the highlight of the movie.
2. Optimus: my love…. some of his transformations were PEAK! And i love how he’s a bit more laid back like G1 op, but has the elements of bayverse op. Like what he had said to Scourge something about “bury you here” i can’t remember the exact quote but DAMN…
3. Bumblebee: not gonna lie, i was kinda disappointed that he kinda died within the first half an hour, was DEAD for the whole middle of the movie and then comes back at the last like 20 mins… but whole scene where he jumps out of Stratosphere and you see him drift up that ramp thing??? The MUSIC???… totally made up for it. I’m also glad he made some sort of mention to Charlie, that was cute.
That’s all I have so far and I’ll probably edit this post and add some more rankings when im not tired asf lmao. But over all, great movie!
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sparrowsabre7 · 11 months
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Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Review SPOILERS
Just got out of the cinema and needed to get thoughts on digital paper.
It's a really enjoyable watch. It manages to tread the balance between the more heartfelt, but action-light, "Bumblebee" and the more shooty-bang-bang Bayverse films. To quickly touch on that: while - Unicron aside - there's nothing really explicit that prevents ROTB from being part of the Bayverse, but it ultimately raises more questions if it is. They do throw a cheeky put down to those who might like to think so though by directly referencing Mark Wahlberg's intention to become an actor. While it wouldn't be the first film to reference an actor that was also in the same series, it does feel like a deliberate attempt to put a nail in the coffin of the "not a reboot" theory.
The film opens with a neat prologue, as I think every Transformers film has, this time narrated by Optimus Primal, rather than Prime, giving a quick introduction to Unicron and Scourge, also providing a devastating look at what they can do. This sets the tone for the film moving forward, as well as indicates it's approach to its plot. The stakes are clear, everyone's motivations defined, and the interpersonal relationships are what hold the film together.
It speaks to ROTB's strengths that it is a trim two hours and maintains a consistent pace throughout, it doesn't linger too long, nor rush through and manages to maintain momentum even when they start to delve into the macguffin search.
The film also gives perhaps the highest percentage of bot screen time across the franchise. Mirage and Optimus take the lion's share of the screen time, Bumblebee (rightly) is given a bit of a rest this film, with Mirage stepping into the human best friend role. Pete Davison voices Mirage with an infectious humour and manages to avoid forcing the comedy angle too much. Optimus by contrast is more brooding than ever, unsure of himself and much less friendly towards humankind. Each of the remaining Autobots get time to shine too and are fleshed out well enough to be more than just action props. Sadly the same cannot be said for half the Maximals. While Optimus Primal and Airazor are given a fair amount of screen time and feel fully realised, Cheetor and Rhinox have less than a literal handful of lines between them.
"Beast Wars" fans will likely be disappointed by their all too brief action sequences, but Primal is definitely done justice in terms of his character, getting a few reflective moments with Prime. The wonky time travel aspect of "Beast Wars" is retained as well, surprisingly, though paid only brief lip service - Primal confirms he is named after Optimus Prime and thus comes from Prime's future, though via the Transwarp key (aforementioned macguffin du jour) the Maximals travelled back in time to early Earth history. Aside from this and Primal's cry of "Maximise!", however, there are no sly nods to "Beast Wars" and anyone looking them will be sorely disappointed. That said, they are treated with far more respect and time than the Dinobots in "Age of Extinction" and are at least more than mindless brutes.
Despite my 90's kid gripings, the action sequences are still very impressive and while the final battle against hordes of enemies feels less personal than the smaller scale skirmishes, it does provide a lot of fan-pleasing moments.
The human characters also surprised me. What struck me straight away was the benefits of having black and latino actors as the leads. The shift in perspective is immediately apparent: Sam and Charlie from the Trilogy and "Bumblebee" respectively both need a car to gain independence. Anthony Ramos' Noah needs a job so he can pay his brother's crippling medical debt and also try and keep a roof over their heads. Dominique Fishback's Elena is desperately trying to keep her job as an intern and fighting for recognition while her (white) boss takes credit for all her work. The dichotomy of circumstances is clear and having characters who are actually struggling just to get by, rather than "first world problems" makes for a more compelling narrative, to the point where midway through the movie, Noah and the Autobots' goals end up at odds. It's a move that makes sense for the character as well as creating real reasons for division. Optimus doesn't trust Noah, so why should he trust Optimus? The ultimate (cliché) message of the movie comes down to the importance of overcoming differences to work together using the arc words straight from G1 "Til all are one".
It's cheesy and a bit on the nose, but it works in its favour, a sentence that more or less sums up the film as a whole.
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