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rey-of-luke · 3 years

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What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get? I'm part of so many fandoms so this could be quite long, haha. The ones that immediately come to mind are H*nnigram (H*nnibal) and D*lena (TVD). Also V*ndermorgan (RDR2). Just can't get into them for some reason, even if I can totally see why people would ship them. There are probably others but those immediately come to mind.

Most disliked arc? Why? Oof, this is a tough one. More recently I can definitely say the whole 'Alina losing her powers' thing in S&B - I am still so confused how the three amplifiers meant the Soldat Sol suddenly had her Sun Summoning abilities? Especially since Grisha is something you're born being? Idk maybe I'm just an idiot who can't understand. This doesn't count as an arc, really, but anything of TVD past like s3 is considered non-canon to me (look, Elena wasn't a perfect character but after they turned her into a vampire and made d*lena canon it felt like they were writing a completely different character, and ofc they killed Katherine). And I haven't seen s8 of got yet but the entirety of that I know I'm going to dislike. Ooh, wait, wait, this is VERY controversial but Luke's storyarc in the sequel trilogy? I think I would be more okay with him apparently yeeting off to places unknown post ROTJ and trying to kill Ben IF they had given more explanation besides 'he sensed evil'. Like in ROTJ and the books, the only times Luke came even CLOSE to killing someone was when a) Vader threatened Leia and b) when he confronted the person he thought had killed his wife. Both involved people he loved being in danger/dying as a result. Which in turn leads to my bitterness over the whole Rey's parentage thing - EVERYTHING SCREAMED BIOLOGICAL SKYWALKER/SOLO IN TFA, ESPECIALLY SKYWALKER. WHAT IS THE REY PALPATINE BULLSHIT?!?! Rey will ALWAYS be Luke's biological daughter to me, regardless of what canon says. *cough* sorry, apparently I'm still bitter over some stuff where SW is concerned.

Unpopular opinion about your fandom? For most, it's: why have ship wars when you can have poly? But more fandom specific: -Shadow & Bone: I HATED BOOK!MAL AT FIRST. I grew to like him by Ruin & Rising and ofc we all know Show!Mal is one of my faves but in the first book I was like 'am I really supposed to ship her with either this asshole or the manipulative narcissist? really??' -The Vampire Diaries: S1-S3 was the best, and Elena Gilbert and Bonnie Bennett are amazing characters who got shat on by the writers. Actually let's just throw all the female characters from TVD, now that I can think about it, because what I've heard about s5-s8 makes me go 'wtf???' and so glad I quite like half way through s5. -Star Wars: Rey was originally going to be written as Luke's biological daughter based off of everything the TFA (or at least maybe a Solo) I will fight people on this, and to me she is - and yes, I will still ship R*ylo even though it makes them cousins because hello, I'm sort of in the GOT and ship jonsaerys and also in the SPN fandom. -Supernatural: D*stiel isn't canon and Sam Winchester is one of the best characters. I also flip flop sometimes on how I feel about Dean - I like him and then I hate him. -Walker: Cordell x Geri should not be a ship, at least long term. Especially after this recent episode - the guilt will eventually kill any relationship, I'm sure, because it was BECAUSE of their kiss that Hoyt was even at the Ranch when Clint showed up.

What is the purest ship in the fandom? I'm so glad I have anon off, because I'm about to get a BUNCH of hate probably, haha. I'm going to go with current/longest fandoms for brevity's sake: -Supernatural: Sam x Eileen -Shadow & Bone/Six of Crows: David x Genya & Wylan x Jesper -Teen Wolf: Scott x Allison x Isaac -The Vampire Diaries: Elijah x Elena -Red Dead Redemption 2: Arthur x Charlotte -NCIS: Gibbs x Shannon or Torres x Bishop (what s18 finale??? don't know her) -Star Wars: Han x Leia or Finn x Rey x Poe. If we're getting into EU, then Luke x Mara Jade or Jaina x Jagged Fel -Walker: Micki x Trey or August x Bela

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thecatsaesthetics · 6 years

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Review of The Last Jedi (Spoiler Filled)

Okay so let me say this, it wasn’t as bad as I expected. I think going in with the lowest possible expectations helped make it better. I don’t think it was as bad as TPM or AOTC but it certainly could have been better. Nowhere close to TES or ROTJ, I think it was on the same level as ROTS if I’m honest. Good on the surface but makes little sense when looked closely.

I will say this I did not see romantic Rey and Kylo, and when I originally saw the “join me” scene I did, but looking at all there interactions they weren’t romantic. I think if anything Rey and Finn’s romance grew and IDK why nobody is talking about it. R*ylos are overstating it, even the shirtless scene, to me that was more for comedic relief, I didn’t see Rey blush or anything. She looked uncomfortable and I think Rian Johnson simply wanted a shirtless Adam Driver to please the fangirls. I think if you’re reading romance into that scene you’re way overstating it.

Also I still think Rey Solo is extremely possible. Everything in the movie screamed siblings to me, hell it screams Jaina and Jacen. They literally did a Luke and Leia parallel scene. I’m sorry but IDK why anyone is believing 100% Kylo on this one. They literally tore the Skywalker lightsaber in two. To me that said everything.

I will also say I saw signs that Finn is force sensitive, that fight with Phasma put a lightsaber in his hand and he’s jedi. JJ Abrams could totally bring that into play in episode 9.

Let’s get on to what I liked and disliked

Like:

This might shock people, but I actually liked Rey’s story. In terms of her naivety, I think that makes sense when you calculated A. it’s been only for 3 days since TFA and B. Kylo and Snoke were manipulating her mind it makes sense. The end of the movie where she closes the door a powerful moment. I generally liked seeing her struggle attempting to save someone who doesn’t want to be saved.

The ending scene between Rey and Leia was like such an incredible scene. I loved that.

Finnrey’s hug.... and Finnrey longing for each other!

Finn getting the force theme played behind him at one point!!!! Force-Sensitive Finn lives!!!!

Anytime Hux was hurt I was happy. The movie started off with the narrative making fun of him and I was extremely enjoying that. IDK why nobody told me that. I really loved it.

Finn’s fight with Phasma. Best scene ever! I enjoyed every second of him killing her.

Kylo being evil because he’s evil. With the exception of the Luke shit they very clearly painted Kylo as evil just because he’s evil.

Luke and Leia’s final scene, that for me was amazing and the only time I saw my Luke Skywalker on screen. The moment where he said “nobody is ever really gone” was something Luke would say. Everything else with Luke was shit, but that scene was just how I imagined Luke would be.

Rose, besides her first scene with tasing Finn I loved her character. I found her character very lovely and JJ Abrams better bring in more of her. I really want a back story on her.

I liked the CGI and the directing, Rian Johnson delivered well there. I can see how at first glance you would like it solely for that.

Disliked

Luke Skywalker, Jesus he was OOC AF. It’s no wonder Mark Hamill hated this. People who saw it with me were like “He’s like Obi-Wan or Yoda” not understanding at all that Luke’s entire arc in OT was how he wasn’t like either of those men. Luke’s ending wasn’t satisfying to me at all, the idea that the man who saw good in Darth Vader would at first glance attempt to kill his 23-year-old nephew made little to no sense. Even with Luke “I regretted it instantly” claim I don’t buy it. That was a disservice to Luke’s character and for me, this ruined the movie. Luke didn’t train Rey, Luke ended his life for no purpose. I’m just so disappointed by this.

The treatment of Finn, there is no question he was sidelined. His story hardly mattered to the plot. Yes, Finn was a hero, but the story didn’t need Finn and Rose’s story. It was an add-on, an afterthought. It’s clear that Rian Johnson didn’t care about him. Of all the storylines he could have done, and he did this really bizarre story. This is disgraceful in my opinion. Nobody should be okay with this. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen such a pointless secondary story in Star Wars before. Look at the other secondary stories in Star Wars, TES, Han and Leia who was used as a ruse to get Luke without them the plot falls apart, ROTJ Han and Leia’s plot is critical to blowing up the Death Star, AOTC Obi-Wan’s plot to get the clones is what saves the day. So I think this “Ummm tried to stop The First Order but failed miserably” plotline was so pathetic. I’m super upset by it. This and Luke really prevented the movie from being great.

The pacing, it felt like more time passed then what did. I don’t understand how the resistance got in such bad shape? How much time had passed? I don’t understand at all.

Rey not being trained. Listen unless she turns out to be a Skywalker/Solo Mary-Sue is okay in terms of her powers and abilities. Rey could best Kylo Ren and Luke Skywalker in a fight despite zero training???? Nope, not buying that.

Rey Random, if true that reveal sucked major. I personally don’t buy it but if that’s it then it sucked. All the theorizing for no purpose. All the connection, all the parallels. It’s stupid plain and simple.

Poe’s storyline, what even was it? I didn’t understand it.

Holdo, whitewashed Lando, although in some aspects I’m okay because that means Lando would have died. I’m happy Lando is still alive can be brought into Episode 9.

No mention of Han Solo by Princess Leia. WTF no mention of Han... at all????

All the slapping and hitting of Poe, Finn and even Rey. Now obviously Poe and Finn are more important and have worse connotations, but I noticed how even Rey was hit left and right. It was weird. I don’t understand why.

Rose zapping Finn. Unneeded.

Rose and Finn’s kiss, now this is more because it was done in such a god awful way. I think Finnrose overall could be romantic, but why did they give them such an awful kiss? Finn’s not at all into it, and it came off as hero worship. I think their relationship was way more important than that.

The green milk scene. Bad. WTF RIAN JOHNSON WTF.

Luke’s death scene. I’m never getting behind how he died. Fuck you Rian Johnson.

Summary:

Overall I don’t find the movie that great, put aside the CGI and the good directing and the film falls apart. I think JJ Abrams has his work cut out for him, cause this movie didn’t do anything it claimed it was going to do. Nothing has been solved, Rey hasn’t been trained, Kylo’s, even more, evil, the resistance is critically injured, and Finn hasn’t been explored.

I really want JJ Abrams to make this right guy.

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atamascolily · 6 years

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An incomplete review of the Star Wars EU/Legends canon

I never thought I would say this, but I'm actually very thankful there will never be another Star Wars EU/Legends book in the old - now non-canon - universe. I've been revisiting those books recently as part of my recent Star Wars kick, and let me tell you, I stopped reading them just at the right time - when Vector Prime came out and they killed Chewie off. It's all downhill from there.

Anyway, the Legends universe is a hot mess, but for me, the five Thrawn Books by Timothy Zahn - Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command, Specter of the Past, and Vision of the Future - are amazing and totally canon in my heart for pretty much everything. Everything else is pretty much "meh" except for a few books that evoke some late '90s nostalgia (because really this blog is all about late '90s nostalgia).

So in my head, Luke and Mara Jade are happily married, and so are Han and Leia; their three children, Jacen, Jaina and Anakin, are all happy-go-lucky teenagers who can use the Force with their besties - Tenel Ka of the Hapes Cluster, Chewie's nephew Lowbaccha, and Tahiri Veila - and getting kidnapped/saving the galaxy every few months. The New Republic is alive and going strong on Coruscant (which never gets invaded by aliens from outside the galaxy), Luke runs the Jedi Academy on Yavin IV; the remnants of the Empire are scattered and disorganized and sue for peace with the New Republic and Captain Pelleaon finally gets the retirement he deserves. It's really great.

But let's face it, I read just about all of the books published prior to 1999 because I was a Star Wars geek and that's just what you did in the late '90s. (They were New York Times best-sellers so I know I wasn't the only one.) In general, I love the art on the books because it looks just like movie posters for films that were never made and that's exactly what I wanted.

Random thoughts on said EU/Legends canon cut below, for length:

-Ben Kenobi's last appearance to Luke in the Legends AU: "You're not the last of the old Jedi... but the first of the new." (TAKE THAT, DISNEY EPISODE 8!) -Awesome things from the Thrawn books: Mara Jade - check. Talon Karrde - check. Art as a major form of military strategy - check. Secret commando ninjas - check. Leia's title as "Lady Vader" - check. Borsk Fey'lya -check. Camaas Document macguffin-thingy- check. Ysalamiri - lizards that block the Force - check. Vornskrs - Force-sensitive predators - check. Insane Jedi master- check. Lots of clones - check. Lawful Evil Imperials - check. Mara fulfilling her orders to the Emperor in the most badass way possible in The Last Command - check, PLEASE. -Jacen, Jaina and Anakin Solo forEVER! -Also, Coruscant and New Republic forever!! -Shadows of the Empire: WTF, Xizor/Leia sex pollen (okay, pheromones) seduction scene???; Dash Rendar is a Han Solo expy, you're not fooling anyone. -Truce at Bakura: wow, Ssi-ruuvi are full of Fridge Horror, powering their tech with human life force; maybe the Imperials aren't so bad after all; Luke and Gaeriel have no chemistry and also her entire religion is against the Jedi on principle, and she's not interested in changing it for you, Luke, sorry; of course Dev dies after his redemption arc; watching the force-ghost of Anakin Skywalker try to talk to Leia is amazing, because Leia is so not interested in his shit. -The Courtship of Princess Leia: I love the Hapes cluster, but man Han buying a planet in a card game and kidnapping Leia with the Hapan Gun of Command (pretty much what it sounds like) is NOT OKAY; Teneniel Djo is awesome and so is Dathomir in general. Isolder is okay once he gets over Leia, which takes most of the book. Also on the cover on one edition, Leia looks like Sarah from Labyrinth during that dream sequence with Jareth - what? On the other, she's wearing her Endor outfit, as are Han and Luke and there's a Rancor there, too for no good reason that I can recall. -Jedi Academy Trilogy: Yay getting to see the Kessel spice mines; I'm not so into the Sun Crusher and the Maw Installation, but Qwi Xux and Wedge Antilles are adoreable together, poor Admiral Daala and Imperial sexism (yet another reason Tarkin is an asshole); yay for a Jedi Academy on Yavin IV; Kyp Durron seriously needs to chill, Luke's in a coma for a lot of the series, Exar Kun is not as clever as he thinks himself. -I, Jedi: I'm supposed to like you, Corran Horn, and I'm just not interested and your narrative voice is kinda annoying.... Just sayin'. -The Crystal Star: super weird and trippy, Han and Leia's kids are kidnapped by "The Empire Reborn", which is as dark and terrible as it sounds, Crystal Star explodes, do not read. -The Black Fleet Crisis: super dark and trippy, especially the Yevethan culture; reveal that Luke's mother was one of the Fallanassi - pacifist Jedi who hid when the Empire was formed - only it turns out to be a huge macguffin, which is too bad. -Children of the Jedi: EVEN TRIPPIER AND DARKER THAN THE CRYSTAL STAR, HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE; Luke gets a love interest who's a Force ghost trapped in a ship's computer; sacrifice, body-swapping, creepy song motifs. -Darksaber: Hutts try to build a Death Star, what can possibly go wrong? Luke's new Jedi girlfriend can't live without her force powers when she loses them, so she leaves him. -Planet of Twilight: Luke goes chasing off after Callista and they don't get back together, so that's good. Also dark and trippy. -The New Rebellion: SUPER DARK AND TRIPPY, LOTS OF MASS MURDER, NOT A FAN. Thank goodness for Mara Jade and Talon Karrde showing up with ysalamiri to turn the force off so Leia can shoot the Evil Dark Jedi behind it all with a blaster. I can't believe I read this. -Ambush at Corellia/Assault on Selonia/Showndown at Centerpoint: also weird and trippy. Han has an evil identical cousin. Luke has to go back and ask Gaeriel for help (she's married now and it's awkward). Lando tries to marry for money and after some awkwardness ends up with Tendra Risant, who is awesome. Lots of things blow up. Kids save the day at the last minute. -I only read one of the Junior Jedi Knights series, Lyric's World, about young Anakin Solo and his friend Tahiri, taking some time off from their Jedi studies to help a friend metamorphose into a new life stage, and I remember it being really charming, despite the inevitable intelligent secret animal sidekick. I later learned that Anakin and Tahiri were kinda an item and then it went horribly wrong in New Jedi Order so I'm glad I didn't read that. -Young Jedi Knights: yay young adult Star Wars novels from the '90s; I stopped reading after Diversity Alliance, but these were fun - especially Tenel Ka, who was a badass, and I quietly shipped her and Jacen (and then that ALSO ended badly in later books - why can't we have nice things?) Especially good in my memory: Shadow Academy (trying not to get corrupted to the dark side at an academy for Dark Jedi), Lightsabers (Tenel Ka has to deal with losing a hand during a training accident); Diversity Alliance (aliens get pissed off at human dominion in the New Republic government but decide that killing the humans off is the only way to achieve justice).

We're not going to even go into all the stuff that happens post-Vector Prime, because it is truly awful. Go look it up if you're curious.

I did read a few stand-alone books this week, though:

-The later Zahn novels lack the spark and vigor I remember from the Thrawn books. Scoundrels couldn't keep my interest. Allegiance and Choices of One feel very weird to me because Luke and Mara manage to work together without actually meeting each other. Survivor's Quest ought to have been good except somehow Luke and Mara encountering the Outbound Flight expedition was BORING and it shouldn't have been. It's not clear if reading the follow-up novel set during the Old Republic era - titled Outbound Flight - will help with this. -Also, I dislike the retconning so that Mara and Luke make references to Naboo and the Trade Federation, which they didn't do in earlier books, and also Thrawn's major motivation for everything is getting the galaxy ready for the impending invasion of the Yuuzhan Vong in New Jedi Order, which I just - really don't like, especially since NJO was pretty awful. -Also, there are an awful lot of Jedi healing trances in Survivor's Quest, which are only tolerable because the code word that Luke and Mara use to snap each other out of it is "I love you". D'aww. -Also, perhaps this is just me reading too much fanfic, but would it hurt to have at least an allusion to the fact that Luke and Mara have sex on occasion - in addition to snuggling and having Force mind-meld sessions? I'm not asking for porn, mind you, but just anything beyond platonic Force buddies would have been good. -Kenobi, by John Jackson Miller was another, relatively recent Legends book that ought to have been good. I mean, it's Obi-wan Kenobi hanging out on Tatooine, dealing with Tusken Raiders and moisture farmers - I eat that sort of fanfiction up - but although there were some good bits, it just really didn't work for me. -Those handy timelines in the front - listing every single book and how it fits into the convoluted chronology - is really helpful, though! The only thing that would make it better would be to add authors and dates. But that is what the Internet is for, I guess.

Conclusions and Follow-Up Questions to Research:

-Wow, the '90s were an interesting time. -Bantam Spectra line of EU novels: mostly good, some weirdness. Del Rey line: ARGHHHHH. -Wow, there are a lot more Star Wars books out there then I remember. -Wow, Mara Jade is awesome. -I have a lot of strong opinions on the subject. -Since they stopped putting out Legends novels as of April 2014, I never have to care about keeping up with canon or anything I don't like about this universe ever again. -Has fanfiction spoiled me for the "real" thing? Or is it just a failure of the published works to address the topics I'm REALLY interested in? -Is the Disney EU canon any better? (My guess, given how I feel overall about the direction of the recent movies: probably not for me, but maybe worth checking out.)

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