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day 9 and 10 baby!! ive been drawing so much recently and i think i feel a sort of burnout coming so uhm. thats wonderful. but ill try and persist and finish stickmintober impossibly late because i refuse to give up. school is starting soon though so these drawings will be slow sorry!!
explanation under the cut!!
anyway. for day 9 i interpreted the jewels as kids - specifically, henry’s kids, and in the drawing theyre arguing over whos henrys favourite. i think they would definitely be little rascals - i mean, look at their dad/old family (the toppats). i made their ages based off of when henry got them, so diamond is oldest, ruby is the middle child, and emerald is youngest. also, theyre all adopted since theyre all different nationalities - diamond is tunisian, ruby romanian, and emerald norweigan, as stated in the games.
for day 10 - im not sure if dave x charles is a rarepair, but i havent seen a lot of content for them - ive seen two oneshots max. anyway, i think theyre pretty cute together, and since they were the most rarepair-y ship that i could see myself shipping, i decided to draw them! yes, i know theyve never met, but if they met i think they would definitely like eachother. i do still ship polythreat/stickvin but i am, after all, a multishipper.
once again, enjoy the burnt food!!
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icilarastudios · 2 years
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5 Things I Dislike About the Henry Stickmin Fandom
5. Some Ships
It's a Fandom, there's going to be ships no matter what. So there's a lot of good examples of good ships in THSC, such as Rosevin, Rosemin, Stickvin, Panprice, Curtisson, and Copperight, and then there are bad ships like Pantis and Dr. Rose. So I'm going to be honest, the fandom did Ellie so bad, she was the target to many disgusting people and the things the Fandom did to her are beyond questionable, and probably the worst she's gotten were the ships, specifically the lesbian ships. No offense to those who think Ellie is in a lesbian relationship, but in all honesty, all the Lesbian ships with Ellie were attempts. The biggest one being Dr. Rose (Dr. V x Ellie), so the problem with this ship is that Dr. V is without a doubt older than Ellie, and Ellie we know has to be canonically in her 20s still, and considering how these two never actually met in the game makes no sense. Ellie is also often shipped with Carol Cross, and this makes no sense too. Another ship that makes no sense is Pantis, this ship was done terrible. The ship is Burt x Dave, and this ship often destroys Dave's character by making him a Toppat. This ship portrays Dave like he's the princess locked up in the Tower and he must fall in love with whoever frees him. And this is as worse as Burt is apart of the people who locked him up. The worst one in my opinion is Stickprice, mainly due to how it's executed. It's meant to be an Enemy to Lover ship, but Rupert and Henry are a terrible example! These two make it clear from the start that they hate each other and the game makes it clear these two are basically rivals of some sort as Rupert is constantly popping up where Henry is for most of the time! This ship is done terrible. The reason this is in 5 because you really can't stop someone from shipping something.
4. Not Following the Canon
So there's a lot of times when THSC artists don't follow what's canon and what's not. The only one that's really fine is the Jacob and Ellie are related, this was proven to be not true as they just conveniently had the same surname. Many people still consider them as siblings though, which is fine because people use this in the form of a Headcanon. However there are times when you can't make headcanons, especially when it's proven in the game, but mainly when it comes to ages, canon ships, and sexuality. Many people headcanon that Rupert during the game is in his 30s, however he is confirmed to be 26 years old. Henry is canonically 28 in the game. Many people believe Ellie and Henry are a thing in the game, however they're confirmed not as a couple or in a relationship at all, as none of the ships are actually canon in the game, so this leads to many people having the opportunity to headcanon ships like Stickvin, there are only two confirmed relationships in the game, that being Wilson Stone and his wife, and Gordon Smith and his wife who went into labor during ItA. The game has a lot of LGBTQ ships in it, and it turns out there are actually 2 confirmed LGBTQ characters, Sam Turner and Ellie and Henry in their fusion form, Ellry, are confirmed to be Non-binary, meaning they go by They/Them pronouns, however many people disagree with this and refers to them by their gender, which is considered misgendering, however this isn't always the case as many people don't really know they're canonically Non-binary.
3. Characters with Different Personalities
This is another one that pisses me off a lot. Many people like to completely ruin the personalities of some characters who actually show them in the game. The character who often falls victim to this a lot is Charles, as many people dislike his optimistic behavior in the games, and went as far as to changing his personality to more of an asshole or just nothing his personality. This one is based on the Fandom and was actually something that was said by @lexi-the-demon-child on their recent stream, they completely dislike how Dave is often the bottom in Panprice. I know this doesn't really fit in this category but there is a point in here, they also dislike how the fandom portrays Rupert in the relationship. The fandom portrays Rupert very dumb around Dave, while in the game he just treats Dave like a normal person than how the Fandom portrays them. There was also a time when many people in the fandom portrayed Burt Curtis as an emo su1c1d4l depressed person who wanted to die, however, this isn't the case in the game. Burt appears very bored and fed up with the people giving him orders rather than wanting to take his life.
2. Making Pure Characters Become Toppats
This is beyond stupid. There have been many times when people turned Charles into a member of the Toppat Clan, the people he is against in the game, along with Dave Panpa and Rupert Price. The Fandom does this a lot for Stickvin and Pantis. Pantis often results into Dave joining the Toppat Clan only really because he likes Burt and wants to be more close to him, where are Stickvin, whether it's Henry or Charles as the Toppat, is beyond disgusting. Charles is often r4p3d or covered in bite marks by Toppat Henry, who the fandom portrays very lustfully, while Toppat Charles is just often insane and wants Henry. There was only one person who really did this concept right, being Browa123's Triple Threat Toppats AU, as Henry doesn't appear to have any of the qualities the fandom gives him. Stickvin isn't actually shown in the first act, however the creator is confirmed to be shipping them in a healthy way unlike the fandom does, so this shows they actually did a good job at portraying it compared to others. The reason the fandom turns Rupert into a Toppat is unknown, especially because he's a government soldier who is against them and seen fighting them a few times. Charles' reason to be a Toppat is always stupid though, usually mostly because he's in a position he can't do anything and there's someone who loves him (this being usually Henry or Ellie) willing to let them free if they join them, and Charles is often simping for them. I don't really like Toppat Charles in general, it destroys his purpose of being in the government, while Browa123 did this in a good way, especially since Charles learned how messed up the side he was on in that AU.
Making the AU All About the Different Timeline Henrys
This one is the most dumbest one of them all, and destroys the purposes of the other characters in THSC. And I'm not talking about AUs that have characters from different endings or AUs meet each other, that's completely fine and actually nice to see. What I'm talking about is when people make the Henrys from the Different Endings in CtM meet each other and the artists completely ignore the existence of the other characters. They even go as far as to shipping the Henrys with each other. I absolutely hate this one because there are other characters in this and you completely make them all about Henry meeting his different ending counterparts is just stupid. I've seen this many times and it's gotten stupid that I really question if the artists have actually seen gameplay of THSC. Like there is really no reason to make stuff like... Toppat Recruits Henry x Triple Threat Henry. It's okay if all of the different Henry's just meet each other and then other characters get to see their different counterparts is even better since this doesn't make it feel like the only living thing in existence is just..Henry. Like at least include Charles and Ellie meeting their alternative counterparts, hell it makes sense to why Triple Threat Henry is called "TrIpLe ThReAt HeNry"
Those are my opinions, respect
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(Well since you said you're enjoying questions to yourself directly, I'm asking one too) What are your thoughts on each of the CtM endings? If saying for all of them would take too long, I'm mainly curious for Valiant Hero, Revenged, & Toppat Civil Warfare
*clap* Okay, let’s get down to business, this is a long list to go through. I’m gonna list them in the order EtC Henry went through them, since that’s the list I have most easily on hand.
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Cleaned ‘em Out, Little Nest Egg, Capital Gains: No particular opinion on these ones, I didn’t find them that interesting, though the music in the tank bit in Capital Gains was very good, and I liked the Undertale battle with Mr. Macbeth, that was a fun surprise. The music during that fight is really good, too—-
Pardoned Pals: Discount Triple Threat—- I didn’t find this one particularly exciting before, but after I did a roleplay set after this ending, I now have a much higher opinion of it. Whoops, I may be extremely biased—-
Toppat Recruits: I thought it was cool that this route had two different endings, but again, not my favorite. There’s definitely some fun possibilities for what happens to Ellie and Henry after this ending, though.
Master Bounty Hunter: The intro sequence for this one was sick. I know nothing about Metal Gear, so I didn’t really understand the reference, but I thought it looked really cool—- The Discord has gotten me attached to a couple characters from this route, (specifically Gordon Banks and Howie Howitzer, thanks Ley—-) and it sucks that so many of them end up dying, this route is kinda sad for me.
Toppat 4 Life: Oh look, more roleplay bias—- I actually didn’t like this one before, again, a lot of unneeded destruction, and Henry just ended up being the leader of the Toppats again, but he left Ellie behind. The roleplay I’m in has made me enjoy this one a lot more, though.
Toppat Civil Warfare: Oh wow, Dave is here! Only good thing about this ending, I really don’t like it otherwise, for obvious reasons.
Revenged: Okay, but... this is actually probably my favorite ending, besides TT, of course—- I’m a sucker for awesome fight scenes, and I can really appreciate all the animation in this route. It’s really angsty and moody, and it’s such a different tone from the rest of the endings, I like it a lot—-
Free Man: Yay, Half-Life references—- Also Burt’s here, not crazy about this ending, but there’s some good parts.
Jewel Baron: YELL—- This one was fun, the Crossing the Pit throwback was great. Definitely one of my favorites. Makes me wonder how many more giant gemstones Henry can steal—-
Stickmin Space Resort: I enjoyed this one, of course Henry would steal an entire rocket, what a legend—-
Toppat King: One of my favorites, everyone’s here and everyone’s friends! (except Charles, uuuuhhhhh—-) As Henry said before, so close to being perfect for him. So many cool scenes in this one, the reference to The Betrayed actually scared me for a second. Definitely one of the most fun to play as well.
Special Brovert Operatives: A very good one in terms of happy endings for Henry. The Stickvin shipper in me is pleased~
Valiant Hero: How I didn’t cry at this one is beyond me, Charles is one of my favorite characters—- This one definitely hurts my soul, and I keep trying to find new headcanons and AUs where Charles survives. We don’t talk about Valiant Hero—-
Triple Threat: And of course, the objective best ending, for a lot of people. I personally agree, this ending ends well for all the characters I care about most, and it’s the one EtC Henry ended up going with as well for that same reason. Henry gets both his friends, and it’s just a very positive ending all around :)
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OKAY THERE WE GO I SHOULDN’T HAVE SPENT THIS LONG ON THIS QUESTION BUT WHOOPS I MAY HAVE OVERDONE IT A BIT, HERE’S A WALL OF TEXT—-
-Mod Mello 💎
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