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#um. i promise i have a legit piece for this game planned it’ll just take a bit….
iaintyourbro · 4 years
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I was talking with some people the other day and they didn't like Cloti which is fine by me, i like the game for more than just shipping and i like talking with people who played the OG so i can understand references and the like, but then they starting saying the best pairings are Zack/Tifa and Cloud/Aerith, i got really confused because i only played the remake (and just finished it) and Zack it's barely there and i know he is important to both cloud and aerith... i'm missing something? (1)
when i said i thought tifa/cloud and aerith/zack were the canon couples they said i was an aerith hater which... i dont get? i lover her? i just dont get when did tifa and zack meet? he's dead in the OG right? (2)
Hey there anon. Sounds like you ran in to the extremists on the CA side.
They’re not all like that. The small group that is just seems to overwhelm the online fandom community. 
So let’s get in to this. I tried writing this earlier and accidentally closed my browser window so it went away.
First, not shipping Aerith with Cloud doesn’t mean you hate Aerith. I think you know that. Extremists use these tactics to make you feel bad. Fun fact, the majority of Cloti shippers don’t hate Aerith. Many of us love her. I personally think she’s awesome and she herself is a Cloti shipper.
Aerith loved Zack. She tells us that. Cloud and Zack were best friends - even though Cloud doesn’t remember that yet. 
I’m getting in to spoiler territory. I see that you’ve only played Remake and below will cover both OG and Crisis Core, so just a warning in case you don’t want to have things spoiled.
Let’s talk about Zack x Tifa first. Zack and Tifa only interacted in Crisis Core for a very short amount of time. She was their tour guide up to the reactor on Mt. Nibel. Zack actually was aware that Cloud and Tifa had feelings for eachother. 
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So that’s from Crisis Core. Zack asks him about Tifa right after this and he gets super awkward and Zack knows right away. I mean, for Zack this has to be funny. When Zack got to Nibelheim, Tifa started emailing him asking if he knew any blonde SOLDIERs. Cloud refused to show his face because he thought he would only be worthy of Tifa if he was a First Class SOLDIER. 
Legit Zack and Tifa only interact during the Nibelheim incident, and it’s for the tour, her asking about Cloud (or trying to ask about Cloud), and then when Sephiroth goes apeshit and almost kills her. And then Cloud goes apeshit and kills Sephiroth. 
Something snaps in Cloud when Tifa is in danger - you’ll notice it in Remake really well. The Chapter 16 simulation where Sephiroth makes Cloud believe that she dies he loses his mind. The Nibelheim flashback when you finally find this out about Cloud is very impressive.
Guy loses his mind after seeing his mom get killed, hometown get burned down, and then he thinks Tifa is dead. He stabs Sephiroth and then when Sephiroth tries to walk away Cloud goes after him. Sephiroth fucking stabs him through the chest and lifts him up (he does the same thing in Advent Children as a call back). So Cloud, being held in the air, by a 6′1″ SOLDIER goes in to this state of total rage and will power and overpowers the guy, throwing him off in to the reactor. Then Cloud gets captured and experimented on for four years, and that’s what you start with in Remake and OG. 
Crisis Core takes place starting 5ish years before OG and Remake and ends right before they start. 
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Cloud seeing Zack die. This is when he completely breaks down and his SOLDIER!Cloud personality shows up. Guy saw his mother murdered,  his village burned down, thinks Tifa is gone, and now Zack, his best friend who saved his life, is dead. And he blames himself for all of this. 
So, no. Zack and Tifa isn’t a thing. It’s not a bad ship, but it’s not canon, not even close. Clack (Cloud x Zack) has a bigger chance and more proof to be canon than Zack and Tifa.
More on Why Zack is Important to Cloud
Alrighty, let’s talk about Zack and Aerith.
So Zack and Aerith have a much nicer relationship than anything her and Cloud had. 
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Here’s a fun example. Crisis Core at the top, Remake at the bottom. The thing about Aerith is, she is not sure what happened to Zack. He went on a mission five years ago and she stopped hearing from him. 
Cloud crashes in to her church just like Zack did (look up, there’s two holes in the roof of the church) and he’s got the same clothes, same sword, same mannerisms, and same eyes. She’s interested, needs to know more. 
Cloud wants to go back to Sector 7.
Also there’s this whole thing where Zack and Cloud were best friends and... yeah, I know think Cloud would be okay with it - neither would Aerith. 
OG wanted there to be an illusion of a love triangle because of how much harder her fate would be on the player. It also helped with the whole illusion of Cloud at this point.. that was lost on a lot of people. 
And here’s info on Why Zack is Important to Aerith
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Cloud’s entire subconscious is filled with Tifa, Tifa, Tifa. Legit all of the plans the guy made in life (The Promise scene is his way of thinking he’s cool and telling her this). 
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Like there’s this confession when you go travelling through Cloud’s subconscious to rebuild him. Because he’s all screwed up from that piece of shit Hojo. He legit tried to join SOLDIER because he wanted to feel worthy of Tifa. He doesn’t get in - he reacts badly to the treatments, for one - which is why he gets so screwed up from what Hojo did to him. 
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There’s this in the Ultimania. Under Cloud’s section. 
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Oh but before all that, he says her opinion is the only one that counts. And let me tell you, if you play this game ignoring Tifa, this is going to shock you because it’ll feel like it’s out of left field. 
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Remember when Aerith asks if Tifa is his girlfriend and he can’t explain it? This is why. Those are the sealed up secret wish TENDER MEMORIES™ no one can ever know. 
So yeah, Tifa journeys through this guys subconscious helping him try to rebuild himself and get his memories back. She sees every vulnerability, fear, and the whole thing is his obsession with her. 
It’s always funny when Extremists CAs say that Aerith could have done this. Would have been pretty awkward, 
A: “Hey, Cloud... um... do you have anything else you think about aside from Tifa?” 
C: “Yeah, Sephiroth and Zack are in this too.” 
A: “Oh, right, in that one small section that Tifa is also in too... okay.”
Also, this isn’t optional. It’s not affected by the: HAVE FUN - OG Affection Points System with Remake Story Points
That’s another thing they like to bring up. So you can look through that. Remake “gives you the answers” for a lot of those, so that’s what its based on. 
OG was based on player choice BEFORE CLOUD GOT HIS REAL SELF BACK. Key there. You control his decisions, but once he’s back, you can’t anymore. 
Here’s more detail on this: 
Tifa is Important to Cloud More About Why Tifa is Important to Cloud
So in conclusion, whoever you talked to sounds like an asshole. 
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celestialallstars · 5 years
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Episode #3: "Make me look like fucking Doofenshmirtz when I��m trying to be like Maleficent" - Mo
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So first off WOOOOO! The vote happened exactly as it was supposed to. I'm hoping that means I'm actually on the pulse of this tribe. I've gradually been getting closer to Jared, and I think he trusts me probably more than I trust him.
Second off, this challenge my god. I hate it, like it's a good challenge but for me... oof. Doing this, it's like I have facial dyslexia or something. Like all of the mouths and eyes start blending together and it just starts to look nuts.
I'm hoping to keep trudging forward, if we somehow pull a win out of this, even better if Cyrena goes to tribal again given it was basically unanimous. Alternatively Orfeo to balance things out. I'm tired though and it's been a long day, so it is now time to sleep.
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I’m conflicted because I so badly want to be a bad bitch and create an over the top plan but there’s such a high chance that it will flop and make me look like fucking Doofenshmirtz when I’m trying to be like Maleficent. So I’m going to try to create my own kinda of genius that only applies to me. It sounds stupid but it’ll work. I’m being bold by saying it’ll work cus if I get eliminated I’ll look like a Doofenshmirtz. We’ll see. I’m already making charts to help me see who’s good and who’s not so good at comps. Comparing teammates to eachother and comparing the entire cast to eachother. Wish me luck. (Also I love everyone in this cast.)
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So like I have so many mixed feelings about this cast. In terms of talking a lot of them are BORING or LEAVE ME ON READ, and like maybe for some it’s cause I’m not in their tribe but like, some people on my tribe still make me want to hit my head against a rock. So like that’s what I’m feeling.
Also think we’re gonna loose this immunity which I’ve hardly done anything for. So go me.
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Just a small update Mitch and I are chatting so that answers that question
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"What's going on?" Well I shall tell you Anna Jane exactly what is going on. I need to get back into therapy that's what.
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Apparently everyone is stressed about results and then there is me who does not care cause I want bodhi gone cause he legit doesn't talk to me so meh.
ALSO ALISSA FOUND AN IDOL QUEEEN. so we now have an idol between the 3 of us which could come in handy very much later down the road which we love! I have 100% trust in jack and alyssa now, with mo as my number 3 on this tribe. As much as i love tobi personally (hi tobi reading this post season) but like idk something is still off. he hasn't spoken much game to me at the moment so idk where his head is really at..
god help us its results this challenge was hard woo go cyrena!
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we lost by 1 point. oh my god. 1 point. that makes me wanna cry. dear god let this be a simple vote or i will actually start crying
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WHY MUST I ALWAYS BE ON THE SHITTY TRIBE WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IS THERE SOME SICK SATISFACTION OF ME ALWAYS GOING TO TRIBAL????? FUCK
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I am SO pumped! I do feel bad for the people on Cyrena, but where it stands now, them going to tribal I feel is best for my game just relationship-wise for me. Still, I can only hope I am making few bonds over on their end while maintaining the ones I have on my tribe and Tuatha as well. I do really hope Mo at least makes it because he helped me this morning when I was getting bummed about all the winner talk. I'm quite optimistic for right now!
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I Wrote Alexis Maxwell But I Erased It
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Well we won the challenge (BARELY), a bit annoyed that we submitted before I got another chance to take a crack at the photos. I feel like I could've maybe found 1 or 2 more before we submitted. Granted we'd need to have found either 3 more or beaten Orfeo to the punch if we had wanted the reward.
I think so long as Bodhi doesn't go on Cyrena I'm pretty indifferent about them losing. They're the people I talk to the least relatively. Ideally I'd probably want an Alyssa, or Matt boot, but I have no influence so we'll see what happens.
I'm just trying to be social and relatively unimposing right now. It's Day 8, now's not the time to be doing glaringly bold things.
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um so we won wooh but still no 2nd idol im sad i want one. um wanted green tribe to go tribal but blue going again i hope bodhi/jack/alyssa leave cuz they dont talk to me ever um ya thatd be cute or maybe tobi cuz hes a snake but maybe he not a snake this time? my stan list atm is jared > zach = rhys > loris = chloe > everyone else. my unstan list is: sharky jack alyssa mitch <3 um yaa hope i can do sth. chris so good gotta always watch out for him jared asked who i wanted to go to f3 with and i said def not chris and he was like oh i wanted chris in end so like hes def a threat also he likes zach so um that needs to stop real quick.
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I think it should be Bodhi or Tobi to go. Am I gonna say anything? Not right now, no. Will I say something later? No clue it depends. But Bodhi isn’t as active as the others and doesn’t participate all that much. Tobi is semi-active but isn’t great at challenges. I remember him being good at challenges so idk if he’s just distracted or not putting that much energy into this. I think a swap is happening after this potentially but if it ain’t it’s still best to vote out the weakest link. It might be me and I might just be super cocky rn but I don’t think it’s me.
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hi! yesterday was a monumental day. I tried to mend my social game with those I hadn’t talked much to, which resulted in me having a lengthy conversation with jack, and making me feel a bit more secure in my tribe/in the event of a swap. the people I don’t talk to keep getting voted out which I’m very much a fan of but that’s probably because they were inactive so that trend might not continue :(. also I lied in my last conf I’m now in an alliance with Chris Jared kori and Bryce? I didn’t expect it but i didn’t feel too close with kori so that should help me solidify something there!! :) I’m thriving. don’t call me ANGEL!
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don’t call me ANGEL! (in case of task challenge :p)
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So we won the challenge. Again. It’s really nice to be able to just sit back and relax in the game and watch people struggle but I’m really nervous about it because we’re all so kumbaya on the Oreo tribe that I don’t fully know who I can trust just yet. Another piece of tea is the fact that Alyssa has an idol which is great for me because it shows Alyssa trusts me and I can trust her for the time being. However I’m worried about Alyssa because we keep promising each other merge which tells me she won’t want to go to the end with me just yet so I gotta keep her close and we’ll see how much damage we can do but i think I’m thriving bc I actually know where an idol is compared to last time when I had no clue.
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so previously on The Adventures of a F*g, i had a small breakdown about the game. i dont know if true, but bryce informed me of an alliance between kori/jared/bryce/loris/chris, and the last two named are super close allies of mine (the closest on my tribe). they like.. didnt tell me shit about it and idk i guess i just feel excluded and it sucks that im in legit 0 (real) alliances. ive been doing good socially i thought and i dont know but i feel like i really sucked.
meanwhile, i sat down with a bag of salt and vinegar lays chips and talked to myself. why was i doing bad? why was i in 0 alliances? why no one like me?
then it hit me... like boom.
i realized that a typical flaw i had this game was caring too much. i pride myself on my ability to read situations (barring paranoia) and i know myself very well. like, i realized that since i was too concerned with doing good and proving myself, i kind of lost the fun of it all and probably come off as fake or forcible to other people. that isn't authentic.
BUT MY EPIPHANY increased even further. how? i dont know!! my brains so fucking big. i just had to be goofy. yes, i want to do good. i really do. but i played once before in this series and got RU pots and 5th. i know i am capable of being a good player and im content with that, and now that im moving into that mindset where this game wont no longer dictate whether im good or bad, im going to start having fun.
i know this isnt about game really but its like... #selfdiscovery
but ya i just wanted to update yalls on that. i won immunity though so im f18 and probs in swap. woo. finna get fucked. anyway, thank u.
and since i want like attention on this post im going to put tags.
#selfdiscovery #justgirlythings #l4l #follow4follow #gay #faggot #0alliances #disney #anime #weeb #lgbt #survivor #bigbrother #celestial
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After we won the face morph challenge, it has been pretty slow. I still have a solid group with me Stephen Z and Jared. Kori and Bryce are close, Jared and I are close, Rhys and Jared are close, and Stephen and I are close. Those are the allegiances I know of right now, but things could change. Lucky for the alliance of 5, they all get to stick together. If there is a swap though, I won't hesitate to flip on bryce/rhys/kori if the opportunity presents itself. I am also kind of worried I am not keeping up socially. I have had a busy week, so my availability is limited, but I try to talk to as many people as I can when I am available. If my predicitons are correct, we should expect a swap soon. I'd love to meet up with Michael, Bodhi, Alyssa, Chloe, Drew, and Mo just to name a few. I feel like I have been able to connect well with everyone except Matt H.
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So, as per my last confessional we are at tribal. And I'm conflicted. As said before I have an alliance with jack and Alyssa and they are my main 2 at the moment like love them both. We helped Alyssa find the idol and we now have a vote steal which I found. However I am feeling kinda conflicted over this vote. Jack and Alyssa want to get rid of Tobi but I personally want bodhi gone. He doesn't talk to me like at all and like he's not the best at challenges. I wanna keep Tobi as well for like a laugh because I genuinely love him. We all agreed to keep mo thank god but still, a lil conflicted. AGH. I have found a vote steal tho woo. I'm not going to be happy but I'll swallow my pride and just go with the alliance, because I'm not out here trying to make waves and be unloyal at the moment. That's for later LOL
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I think there is a relatively high chance that i'm going home here, considering its 1 and a half hours till tribal and people "still haven't heard anything" so i'm assuming that i'm getting the chop here which sucks... I tried pretty hard considering i've been pretty busy and like they're not giving me much to work with here and it feels like im trying to break through a wall. I'm trying to get the target on bodhi but no one is fucking online to even try to talk to about it so i'm at  a lost for what to do here... I want to stay but i just don't know how to do that when no one is talking to me... i could just be extremely paranoid and i sound delusional right now but idk something feels off here... its so annoying when I enjoy talking to other tribes more than my own NNNN like i really wish things were different but they're not so i'm just gonna try my best and see what happens
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Woo we win again. Im trying to step up socially with my tribe, although who knows how long it's gonna matter bc we're prob swapping tonight. Apparently people were saying mo's name, let's pray it doesn't happen bc he's a good fucking kid.
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Well it's been a slow couple of days for me. In game I can't really speak much to anything that may have happened. I feel like Tuatha has had a bit of a kumbaya casual flow going on. Which isn't necessarily bad but it makes it hard for me to know how I'm really doing.
Tobi was messaging me worried it might be him, which admittedly wouldn't be the worst thing given how we ended our last game. I was kindof an ass which I kindof leaned into after essentially throwing that game, but I still wish I'd found a way to end things better with him. While there are others I'd rather see go, his boot is one I can probably accept.
If it isn't him then oof who knows then. So long as it isn't Bodhi from that tribe. Overall I'm feeling ok, but I don't want to get complacent, it's just so early that I really don't know what to make of things. One world still isn't really helping since I'm still struggling to try and make conversation with EVERYONE. I really should consider just narrowing it down to some instead of all.
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I’m sure hoping this works out for me if there is a tribe swap like a suspect, I think I’ve built some strong enough connections but without going to tribal it’s just not possible for me to be 100%
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I've never been on a tribe with a winning streak I feel like I'm in the upside down hahaha. I'm having a great time and getting to know everybody and not having the stress of tribal is great. Sucks for the other tribes OOP
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Nothing much is happening! I am still set up perfectly on my tribe and Bodhi has informed me that either Mo or Matt might be going. That was at the beginning of the round so it could really be anyone. I just hope it isn't Bodhi Alyssa or Mo.
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Ok this past round was ok. I just kind of let us lose immunity and then we voted out Tobi. I didn’t want to vote out Tobi but that fucker voted for me so I don’t really care at all fuck him.
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So not very much has changed on Tuatha as far as I can tell. My tribe winning the immunity challenge has helped me delay any confrontation between my 2 alliances which is great, as it should theoretically allow me to maintain relationships with all 6 members of the tribe. Still, it's going to keep being important to win immunity or pray for a swap in order to keep these groups from clashing.
Jared and Rhys are still a ? for me. I don't know why/how Rhys was able to convince Kori to invite Jared to the alliance of 5 instead of Mitch, and it worries me that those 2 may have a stronger bond than I immediately suspected. Hopefully I'll have an opportunity to deal with that when the time comes.
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Tobi is voted out 5-1. We swap!
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