I love all of this I also kind of want when Roman snaps his outfit turns black and sinks out and Remus pops up in a white outfit being like "what the f*ck did you guys do"
Sander Sides Season Two Finale: Thoughts and Wants
Okay, so if you’re here, you likely know how Sander Sides is doing. It’s broken all our hearts and all we can do is write fanfiction and theories as we slowly edge our way to the season two finale. Emphasis on slowly because anyone who’s been part of the fandom for at least a couple months knows Thomas is insanely slow when it comes to releasing new episodes. So slow that the last true Sander Sides episode was more than two years ago, and that was an Asides video. For two years we have been waiting for a follow up to Working THROUGH Intrusive Thoughts! But us Fanders don’t judge. Thomas is an adult, so should be allowed to take as much time as he needs for the sake of his health; and while he takes his sweet time, we have time to craft theories on what this season finale beholds. And that’s why we’re here today.
Hello, I’m Bizarrio, and today I will share my predictions of what I think—and want—to happen in the Sander Sides season two finale. Quick disclaimer, the only two things we know for certain about the finale is that there will be a lot of songs and that it is planned to be four parts long. So there is no way I’ll be able to guess everything that’s going to happen. Anyways, I’ve stalled enough, let’s get to the part you’re here for.
The Structure
Four parts is a lot of parts, but I think I’ve made a formula that the finale could follow.
The first part will introduce the first problem, a simple problem that would be addressed in any Sander Sides episode, from dealing with an issue Thomas has to answering a question about life. In part one, the sides will try to find a solution to said problem. But as the episode goes on, it gets more and more clear that their action and the way they treat each other is stemming from something far deeper than this simple issue. And at the end of the episode, this is confirmed when one of the sides does something drastic, whether it be blurting out something they shouldn’t have or even physically hurting another side.
This leads to part two, where everyone tries to discuss the real problem. In this part, they will try to find the problem and what’s causing it. After finding the problem, they will make a solution that leads to one of the sides being unhappy, which will lead to that side breaking down, causing the events of part three.
In part three, the actual cause of the problem is revealed. And this side’s problems will be on full display, showing a level of despair we haven’t seen of him to this point.
Now knowing the real root of the issue, the fourth and final part would be about Thomas and the other sides comforting the side in their breakdown. They would then find the true solution to the problem. And after they find this solution, Thomas gives his final speech about what he’s learned, kisses Hello Fresh’s feet, and shows us the end card, where we can finally prepare for season three.
The Plot
So that’s what I think the structure will be, but that’s not a plot, so who’s it with?
Well, for starters, the finale will likely focus on one side, and based on recent events, I think that this side will be Roman. Roman’s insecurity has been present since the very beginning and has only gotten worse. And throughout the entirety of season two, he’s been forced to compromise his wants or admit that he is in the wrong, especially in more recent episodes. So I feel like it would be suitable for the finale to be about him. I feel like with the structure I set up, he wouldn’t be the main focus of part one and a portion of part two, but the rest of the parts would definitely start to focus on him, putting him in full center.
And since the finale is Roman centered, the first problem in part one is gonna have a lot to do with him. And that problem will be about Nico.
I think the first conflict will be Thomas trying to decide if he should make a move on Nico. This could be anything from taking him somewhere to straight confessing. I don’t really know, but regardless, Roman is absolutely rooting for Thomas to go for it. Janus and Patton on the other hand, think that it would be a terrible mistake.
Janus thinks that Thomas isn’t in the right headspace to start any relationships, and should be focusing on himself. And from what Patton said about Nico in the five year anniversary, we can tell that he isn’t exactly thrilled about the idea of him. I assume that he’s likely scared of the heartache that would occur if the relationship failed. And after some recent—and totally uninfluential not upsetting—events, I feel like he would also see the merit in Thomas focusing on Thomas.
Things look bad for Roman(and they will be later)but it’s okay. He’s not outnumbered, for he has a very smart, and very cool guy on his side, who also believes that it is reasonable for Thomas to take this chance: Virgil.
When confronted with the issue, Virgil sides with Roman almost immediately, which is a huge shock to everyone. Virgil says that Thomas should get it over with because Thomas has no way of knowing how much time he has, so if he doesn’t do it now, he may never get the chance.
So yeah, part one would mainly be Roman and Virgil vs Patton and Janus as they try to convince Thomas why he should or shouldn’t make the moves on Nico. Patton and Janus’ argument is that it’s the wrong time to do it, while Roman and Virgil’s argument is that this may be the only time. And Roman and Virgil will be absolute couple goals as team up and absolutely obliterate Janus—figuratively.
Also, all the multiple-part episodes so far have involved going to another side’s room. And since this is a Roman centered finale, he’ll take Thomas and the other sides to his room to prove his point about taking risks, and that’s where they’ll be for the rest of the finale. I imagine his room to be vibrant and shiny, covered with shades of red and pink, white, and gold. It’s also very cluttered and messy, with discarded papers and costumes scattered all over the ground, and posters, artwork, and Thomas’ biggest accomplishments hung on every wall. So much stuff is in there, it almost feels claustrophobic. And the different rooms have different effects based on the side it represents. I think that Roman’s room would cause Thomas and the other sides to lose touch with reality, and become fixated on their desires.
*Insert song about time and when you should and shouldn’t take chances.*
But things aren’t all well, for as the episode goes on, the argument gets more and more tense, especially Virgil’s argument. And at the end of part one, Virgil blurts out something along the lines of,
“Of course it’s a bad idea! But which is worse? Losing one friend by making a bad choice, or losing all of your friends to him?” Virgil would be referring to Janus of course. This shocks everyone—especially Roman—and reveals Virgil’s true intentions.
You see, there was more to Virgil’s quick decision than just time. In fact, he never thought Thomas should do it at all. The real reason he was telling Thomas to do it is because he didn’t want Thomas to listen to Janus. It’s clear through every interaction he and Janus have that Virgil hates him, and doesn’t believe that he should be trusted ever. And from recent episodes, it’s shown that Virgil has even started resenting Patton. So I feel like Virgil would be much more happy if Thomas listened to Roman than Patton and Janus.
Then in part two, they discuss the real problem. After discussing this, Virgil finally accepts that it would be better if Thomas didn’t confess his love, and that it doesn’t make Thomas a bad person to listen to Janus this time. And it seems that everyone is satisfied…
But wait.
What about Roman? He’s not satisfied. He didn’t get what he wanted. Time and time again, Roman has given up on his desires, making compromise after compromise for Thomas’s sake. And once again, he’s the one who has to sacrifice his happiness. He’s the one who gets the short end of the stick. He’s the one who gets called out for his poor decisions. And do they even care? They act like they care, but it’s only really for their own gain.
Nobody understands. Nobody cares.
Tired of this cycle, Roman snaps. He kicks all the other sides out of his room, putting all focus on him. And in part three, Roman makes a pitiful final attempt at convincing Thomas to confess to Nico. And all of his insecurities are displayed.
*Insert absolutely heartbreaking song about how everything Roman does is for Thomas and how he feels worthless because his contributions seem less important and even more harmful than the others.*
Near the end of part three, or the beginning of part four, the other sides return. Or maybe Roman brings them back? Or maybe he never kicked them out in the first place and he shut them up a different way? I don’t know. But the sides are there. And in part four, they all comfort Roman, claiming that he is important and helpful, and that they wouldn’t be where they are now without him. Patton apologizes for misleading him, and Janus apologizes for taking advantage of him. And I think it would be cool if Virgil had a beautiful speech about Roman, similar to Roman’s speech about him in Accepting Anxiety. Considering that Virgil was Roman’s final straw, and that he hasn’t tried to be nice to Roman as Roman has to him, I think it would be a nice way to bring things all together.
*Insert song about how everyone will always love and appreciate Roman and how he is just as important as everyone else and how Roman and Virgil should totally kiss when this is over.*
And after everyone says what they want to say, and Roman starts to feel better, they go back to Thomas’s living room. Thomas comes to a compromise that makes everyone happy, and he finishes the video off with what he’s learned: Acceptance and the merit to taking risks.
And then he tells us about Hello Fresh and how it’s the superior way of eating.
Wait a minute. I think I’m forgetting someone. Someone who’s really important to the series, and could add some really interesting—and even logical—points to the argument…
Oh yeah, what about Remus?
Remus and the Orange Side
If the finale is centered around Roman, then Remus has to be there by obligation. A main theme within it would be Roman’s insecurity, and we know that Remus is one of his biggest. So it simply wouldn’t make sense for him to not be there.
In the finale, Remus is just gonna be himself. He’s not gonna pick a side or provide helpful information. No, he’s going to make the same discomforting jokes and taunt everyone, making them feel worse than they already do, especially Roman.
As entertaining as he is though, I don’t see him actually contributing to the plot, other than making things worse. I don’t even see him apologizing to Roman in part four. At most, he’ll begrudgingly apologize for killing him after Janus looks at him sternly.
What I do see however, is some major foreshadowing. When Remus isn’t making inappropriate comments about the situation or blatantly insulting Roman, he’ll try to bring up completely random things that have absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. Thomas and the other sides will brush it off as Remus being his usual self, but those remarks will actually be information of the orange side, and foreshadowing of what he will do in season three.
Speaking of the orange side, what will he be doing?
Honestly, I have no clue, which is why I haven't talked about him so far. It’s pretty clear that the orange side is linked to anger and negativity in some way, and likely has the ability to take control of others when they're upset. And you can’t exactly say Roman’s content during the finale. So it would make sense for orange to reveal himself at this time.
But apart from what he could represent and one of his abilities, we know absolutely nothing about him. And since we don’t know his personality or even his goals, I can’t tell you how he would act in the finale.
Additionally, I also think that a lot has happened in season two so far. The series has grown to be really complex with all its different plot points. And this finale is definitely going to be the effect of all this complicated commotion. So adding the orange side into the mix might make it too complicated. I’m not saying that it couldn’t work or that Thomas can’t make it work, I just feel like the orange is an issue better left to address in season three.
The Other Stuff
There’s also a couple of other things I want to talk about that didn’t really fit in with the other stuff, but weren’t big enough to earn their own section, so I put it all here.
Firstly, I find it very possible that there will be a common analogy in the finale. I’m referring to how Logan and Roman used visuals to prove their points in Why Do We Get Out of Bed In The Morning?, and the whole video game theme in Putting Others First. I think it would be cool if it had a cartoon theme where every side has their own art style. Though, for the finale, it might be more fitting to reference different musicals, since Roman is deeply obsessed with theater. And it would explain why there’s so much music in the finale. But that’s more of a cool idea than an actual prediction.
Second, I’d like to talk about Dark Roman, or Roman becoming an antagonist. I don’t think he can become a darkside, since the dark sides are just parts of Thomas that he hasn’t accepted as good yet, and Thomas already knows that Roman can be a positive influence, even if Roman doesn’t feel like it. That being said, I can definitely see him dealing with not being Thomas’s hero by doubling down on the antagonist thing, and becoming a “villain.” It would also be a good way to involve the orange side.
However, I also feel like even if Roman really tried, he wouldn’t really be that big of an enemy. He may be trying to embrace his evil side, but at the end of the day, he still cares about the other sides and especially Thomas. And I feel like this care for them would hold him back from doing something truly evil. Besides, we already have an evil Roman! And I feel having one of those around is plenty enough.
Also, I think Thomas’ living room should still be messy, showing that he still hasn’t cleaned it after Working THROUGH Intrusive Thoughts.
And Janus should get his own song. It could be about literally anything, just give him a song. He’s earned it.
So, yeah. Those are the things I think will and want to happen in the Sander Sides season two finale. Of course this doesn’t fill in every detail, it would be impossible to guess everything that will happen. And there’s no way everything I’ve said will actually happen. So I’d like to see your thoughts too. Anyways, that will be all, so goodbye every-
Wait. Wait. Hold on a second. I’m forgetting something. Something I’ve seemed to ignore despite being very important to the series. Something that’s been here since the very beginning, and has been a part of some of the best moments in the show. Something all the fans have grown to love…
What about the end credits!
The End Credits
The end credits have shown us some of the cutest scenes within the whole series, and have provided some really interesting foreshadowing and tension as well. So we have to talk about them!
The end credits of part one will be all the sides berating Thomas for leaving on such a cliffhanger. He’ll try to reassure them by saying that part two will come out really soon, but absolutely no one will believe him.
The things I’ve said so far have been speculation or headcanon, but this one is actually correct. After all the time we’ve waited, it would be such a missed opportunity to not make the joke. So this will be the first end credit or else. No, no, I’m kidding… Or am I?
We’re at the second end credit, and at this point, I’m sure you can tell I’ve been leaving someone out… And it’s Joan!
No, this joke has gone on for long enough. As you can tell, I’ve been avoiding Logan. And it’s not just because I don’t see him having a place in a Roman centered episode. In fact, I do see him in it.
He would call both sides irrational, and propose a compromise. (The same compromise they make in the final part…) But he would be ignored as the other sides try to talk over each other. And it would be especially bad this episode. So much that he would quit trying and leave the conversation, similar to how he did in Moving On and Putting Others First. Only this time, no one will be there to notice or care…
And that’s where the end credits come in.
The second end credit will show Logan right after he leaves to his room. He starts to talk to himself about how frustrated he is about being pushed aside so often. He talks about feeling unwanted and possibly unneeded as Janus is slowly taking his place as the voice of reason.
The third end credit continues his monologue, showing him grow more and more upset.
We finally reach the fourth end credit and Logan is completely furious. But his monologue gets cut off when Remus enters his room, he of course immediately masks his anger. He tells Logan about everything he missed and how they came to the exact same conclusion he was trying to push, only to be ignored. This breaks Logan’s composure, and he starts lamenting all his frustrations to Remus. Remus interrupts him, claiming that the root of the issue is that he doesn’t stand out enough, and that all he needs to do is be as loud as they are. They then turn to Logan’s door as they hear footsteps; Remus smiles. We see a glimpse of the man at the door. Perhaps we see an orange-hazed silhouette, or a pair of shoes we have yet to see. Or maybe, just maybe, we even hear his voice,
“I can help with that…”
Conclusion
And that’s everything I think will and want to happen in the Sander Sides season two finale, for real this time.
And as I said before, almost anything can happen, so I’m bound to be wrong about something. Thomas has also said that he plans to to get at least parts one and two out by the end of the year, so we’ll get to see any day now.
And in the end, while I may not know exactly what will happen, I do know that this finale will leave us laughing, crying, and absolutely hyped for season three. I am so excited for the finale, and I know I’ll love it, regardless of what happens.
Goodbye everyone.
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For the MLP may I suggest Remus as Discord
What I would do with the sides if I wrote them in different AUs
Or the sides (plus occasionally Remy, Emile, and Thomas) in different situations and other random things because I’m bored again.
Hamilton
Logan as Hamilton
Patton as Eliza
Roman as Angelica
Virgil as Laurens
Janus as Burr
Remus as Maria Reynolds
Thomas as Peggy
Remy as Mulligan
Emile as Lafayette
Harry Potter
Logan as Hermione
Patton as Ron/Neville
Roman as Harry/Fred or George
Virgil as Neville/Draco
Janus as Draco
Remus as Fred or George/Crabbe or Goyle
Remy as Lee
Emile as Cedric
Thomas as ??? (I have no idea. Let me know who you think he would be)
Gravity Falls
Logan as Dipper
Patton as Mable
Roman as Pacifica/Wendy/one of the two cops (idr their names)
Virgil as ??? (I couldn't think of someone)
Janus as Bill (duh. Basically the same person tbh)
Remus as Stan/Old Man McGucket (was that his name? It's been awhile since I've watched it. Sorry)
Remy as Wendy/Pacifica
Emile as Soos
Thomas as ??? (Couldn't think of one for him either)
Beauty and the Beast
Logan as Belle
Patton as Mrs. Potts/Maurice
Roman as Gaston
Virgil as Lefou
Janus as a mix of Lumier and Clogsworth
Remus as the Beast
Remy as ???
Emile as Maurice/Chip
Thomas as Chip
Aladdin
Logan as the sultan
Patton as Genie
Roman as Aladdin
Virgil as Jasmine
Janus as Jafar
Remus as Iago
Remy as Abu
Emile as Carpet
Thomas as ???
The Little Mermaid
Logan as Sebastian/Grimsby/King Triton
Patton as Ariel
Roman as one of the sisters/King Triton/Flottsum or Jettsum (how do you spell their names? One of the eels is what I'm talking about)
Virgil as Flounder
Janus as Eric
Remus as Chef Louis/Ursula/Scuttle/Flottsum or Jettsum
Remy as Ursula/Flottsum or Jettsum
Emile as Max(?)(I don't really know)
Thomas as King Triton
Princess and the Frog
Logan as Tiana/Evangeline
Patton as Ray/Louis
Roman as Naveen/Lottie/Louis
Virgil as Tiana
Janus as Dr. Facilier
Remus as Lawrence
Remy as Lottie/Naveen
Emile as Mama Odie/Ray
Thomas as Louis/Lottie's Dad
Cinderella
Logan as Lady Tremaine/Prince Charming/the king/the royal advisor
Patton as Cinderella/the king/Gus Gus
Roman as one of the step sisters/Prince Charming/Fairy Godmother/Jacque
Virgil as Fairy Godmother/the royal advisor
Janus as Lady Tremaine
Remus as one of the step sisters
Remy as one of the step sisters
Emile as Cinderella/the king/Gus Gus
Thomas as the king/Jacque/Gus Gus
My Little Pony
Logan as Twilight Sparkle
Patton as Pinky Pie/Fluttershy
Roman as Rarity/Rainbow Dash
Virgil as Fluttershy
Janus as ???
Remus as ???
Remy as Rarity
Emile as Fluttershy/AppleJack
Thomas as Spike
Hogwarts Houses (where I would place everyone)
Logan in Ravenclaw/Gryffindor
Patton in Hufflepuff/Gryffindor
Roman in Gryffindor/Slytherin
Virgil in Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw
Janus is Slytherin/Ravenclaw
Remus in Gryffindor
Remy in Gryffindor/Slytherin
Emile in Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw
Thomas in Hufflepuff
Which country they would be from (if they weren't from the US)
Logan from France
Patton from Australia (just a slight accent though. Just enough to tell where he is from. And no, he does not kill the freakishly large spiders there. And yes, he does still hate spiders.)
Roman from Spain/Mexico
Virgil from Scotland/Ireland
Janus from France/the UK
Remus from Germany
Remy from Brazil
Emile from Italy
Thomas from Italy/Brazil
Highschool Cliques
Logan as a nerd
Patton as one of the nice, lesser known popular kids/theatre kids
Roman as a theatre kid/jock
Virgil as one of the loners
Janus as a loner/popular/smart kids
Remus as a theatre kid/jock
Remy as a popular kid
Emile as one of the nice,lesser known popular kids
Thomas as a theatre kid
What everyone's sexuality/gender identity would be in a human AU
Logan would be a biromantic Demisexual male, he/him
Patton would be a pansexual male, he/him
Roman would be a gay trans male, he/him
Virgil would be a Non-binary bisexual, they/them
Janus would be a gender fluid bisexual, any pronouns
Remus would be a gay trans male, he/him
Remy would be an omnisexual male, he/him
Emile would be a pan romantic gender fluid, pronouns depend on the day
Thomas would be a gay male, he/him pronouns
Which store they would go to in the mall
Logan would go to the mall just to keep an eye on the others
Patton would go to Box Lunch/Old Navy/Bath & Body Works/Build-a-Bear
Roman would go to Box Lunch/Build-a-Bear
Virgil would go to Hot Topic
Janus would go to Spencers/Hot Topic
Remus would go to Spencers
Remy would go to Starbucks
Emile would go to Box Lunch/Build-a-Bear/Bath & Body Works
Thomas would go to Box Lunch/Build-a-Bear
Dr. Dolittle (the one with RDJ)
Logan as Dr. Dolittle
Patton as Lily Dolittle
Roman as Lady Rose
Virgil as Stubbins (there's just a lot of parallels between Stubbins' arc in the movie and Virgil being accepted as a light side in the series)
Janus as Lord Badgely
Remus as Müdfly
Jurassic World, including other movies (both people/dinosaurs)
Logan as Dr. Wu/Claire/Blue
Patton as Grey (I think that’s how his name is spelled)/ankylosaurus
Roman as Owen/T-Rex
Virgil as Zach/Delta(smart but also the first one to die)
Janus as Dr. Wu/the main bad guy from the second movie(can't remember his name for the life of me)/Indoraptor
Remus as Hoskins/Allosaurus(mainly for the split second it get hit in the face with a boulder)
Big Hero Six
Logan as Tadashi
Patton as Honey Lemon/Callahan(if I do write this AU he would be the villain)
Roman as Wasabi
Virgil as Go-Go
Janus as Hiro
Remus as Fred
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Logan as one of the gargoyles
Patton as one of the gargoyles
Roman as Phoebus
Virgil as Esmerelda
Janus as Quasimodo
Remus as the jester who tells the story(and maybe as Frollo? I don't really know)
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