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sunnysunsins · 2 months
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JNPR 2.0 / ALPN / Nora and her boys
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anthurak · 1 year
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Something interesting that came to mind just now;
Jaune isn’t really that much of an actual leader.
Oh he can lead, that’s for sure. But when we look at Jaune’s time as part of his team over the course of the show, I think we start seeing that true ‘leadership’ was never really a role that Jaune was particularly cut out for.
I mean, consider this...
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Jaune learned how to be a leader in very large part from simply following Ruby’s example. And looking at his time as Team JNPR’s proper leader during their time at Beacon, we see someone who could lead, but also wasn’t especially good at it.
I mean, just contrast their team’s respective matches during the Vytal tournament where it’s clear that Ruby has grown very well into her role as a leader based simply on how flawless her team’s synergy is, while Jaune is clearly still struggling to really coordinate his teammates and JNPR’s synergy very much suffers for it. Heck, Jaune even tries to replicate Ruby’s move of calling out combo-attacks to his teammates, only for his attempt to fall completely flat.
And ever since the Fall of Beacon, Jaune has never really tried to be a leader again and has always deferred to Ruby.
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Heck, even overcome with rage at Ozpin/Oscar, the moment Ruby tells Jaune to cool it, Jaune backs down IMMEDIATELY.
And even when not directly following Ruby’s lead, Jaune has never really taken charge of a group. Just look at his time in the first part of Volume 8 when he’s really more following Yang’s and Ren’s lead.
Which all contrasts very hard to the time’s Ruby has stepped up to take charge of a situation. “What is Ozpin hiding from us?” anyone?
Honestly, I’d argue that this is actually a very deliberate part of Jaune’s character arc post-Beacon, ie; him transitioning away from being a central leader figure and more into a support fighter. See also how Jaune acts as this big subversion of the typical ‘Hero-Protagonist’ archetype; starting in some central leader role like you might expect from a ‘main character’, but over time realizing he’s a much better fit in a supporting role, just as he moves away from trying to fill any kind of ‘big hero’ role.
And moving into Volume 7 and 8 with how much ‘JNPR 2.0′ has started to coalesce around Oscar as a ‘new generation’ of the ‘Court of Oz’ that we saw with Ozpin and the other headmasters, we’re starting to see Jaune defer more and more to Oscar as well. Who himself also seems to have taken all of his leadership cues from Ruby.
Jaune certainly has some of the skills necessary to fill the role of a leader, if he has to. He’s good at coming up with plans, he can analyze a situation and he can coordinate to a degree. But when we compare him to Ruby or other clearly capable leaders like Coco, Robyn or heck, Salem, I think it’s clear that Jaune isn’t nearly at that level.
Instead, leadership feels like something Jaune was never really meant for, and instead was a role he was pushed into despite not truly being cut out for it.
Specifically, pushed into it by Ozpin. Which frankly should not be surprising at all by this point :D
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citadelofmythoughts · 9 months
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Here’s a tough question. Top 3 favorite and least favorite things about each RWBY volume?
Sorry for the delay, this is something I've had to really think about.
V1 Faves
The initiation/Nevermore fight. Let's be honest this is where these legends started.
Blake & Yang meeting for the first time
Weiss and Blake coming to terms with each other
V`1 least faves
The animation. I know it was Poser, they had no budget, etc. That doesn't make it any easier to watch
That one line from Yang about boys that has haunted the discourse for nearly a decade.
TBH barely anyone had a character any deeper than surface level
V2 Faves
Yang talking to Blake in Burning The Candle. This is where their relationship became more than partners, deeper than just friendship
The talk between Weiss, Blake and Yang at Mountain Glenn. Something that would be directly referenced much later in V9
"Best Day Ever" - the food fight between RWBY and JNPR is just big dumb fun
V2 least faves
Jaune and his pursuit of Weiss. Obnoxious to the extreme.
Sun - that's it
"Breach" in general was kind of a mess and really was there to have a giant fight scene.
V3 Faves
"Heroes And Monsters" - It feels weird listing something so horrible and tragic as a favorite thing but what happened between Yang, Blake and Adam in this chapter would define these characters going forward all the way until almost the end of V6 and was a significant point in Blake & Yang's relationship
Also from "Heroes And Monsters" - Velvet unleashing Anesidora with "I May Fall" blasting is still so amazing to this day.
Yang being framed for injuring Mercury and Blake deciding to trust in her.
(I really could go on about V3 with many more positives.)
V3 least faves
SSSN vs NDGO - I DON'T CARE
Might be controversial but Pyrrha's death. I understood the narrative need for it but it doesn't mean I liked it
Same for Penny
V4 Faves
Meeting Blake's parents. Ghira and Kali are treasures.
The fight with Tyrian
Yang getting her new arm and starting her healing process
(Honorable mention to Blake, with Sun's help, starting to understand that sometimes you have to let people in and it's THEIR choice to want to be in your life. Also honorable mention to Ruby's letter in "No Safe Haven")
V4 least faves
Tai's "advice" both in "Family" and "One Step Forward..."
Sun. (I didn't start to be able to tolerate him unti V5)
Not nearly enough Yang
V5 Faves
Yang and Ruby reuniting - I always cry
Weiss' talk with Yang in "Alone Together" (which is also when I'm convinced she realized that Yang loved Blake)
"Yang...?" *Dumbfounded stare from Yang
(Honorable mention to Yang reading Raven for filth)
V5 least faves
The pacing wasn't great and yeah the big fight was lackluster
While the animation was fine the colors always felt very muted to me
Lionheart (not that I resented his use in the story, I just hate the dude)
V6 faves:
The Bees Vs Adam (was I gonna say anything else?)
The Brunswick Arc (why is CRWBY so good at horror?)
The fight with the Leviathan.
V6 least faves:
These are mostly really minor complaints
Dee and Dudley - annoying
The big lore dump, while not BAD was a LOT
Oscar vanishing and getting a new set of clothes off camera not that I care that much but I think it could have been handled better
V7 Faves
The makeovers, with the possible exception of Wess I thought everyone looked great and TBH Yang never looked better
The Bees getting ready to go on a date
Nora spilling the tea ABOUT the Bees
(Honorable mention to RBY standing by Weiss when she confronted Jacqass. Also honorable mention to Yang/Blake VS Elm/Vine)
V7 least faves (not writing critical just characters getting on my nerves)
Harriet is annoying
The AceOps being Ironwood's unthinking lapdogs
Ironwood coming out as a complete dumbass.
V8 Faves
Beeunion 2.0
Yang, Jaune and Ren infiltrating Salem's HQ and the fight that ensues. Especially Yang getting to talk smack to Salem and blowing her tits off.
Penny frying Cinder
(Honorable mention to Maria kicking Neo's ass)
V8 least faves
Ironwood continues to be a complete and total dumbass
Ren being a jerk. Thankfully he gets over it
Yang's fall. (not bad on a value level but it HURT)
V9 Faves:
The Bees confession - absolutely perfect. Could not be improved on
The fight scene in Rude, Red and Royal
Ruby getting her groove back and showing CC just how powerful she really is.
V9 least faves: (and I'm allowing for what I know was a difficult production)
We could have used at least another two chapters because some scenes and transitions were way too brief and as a result didn't have the emotional impact they should have
We didn't get the prologue that was shown at RTX
Minor complaint but in Chapter 1 I wish Blake had been shown as being a bit more worried about Yang since she saw her "die"
Wow, this was a LOT!
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bridgyrose · 8 months
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Ruby talking to WBY & ALPN (Jnpr 2.0) about what neo put her through. Focusing on what each fake said and meant
(Had to adjust a lot of this in order to make it not OOC for Ruby, so enjoy Ruby having some ptsd and anxiety over what she tells her friends)
Ruby stared at the tea in front of her, her fingers tensing up as she reached for the cup and relaxing as she finally wrapped them around the handle. While she had managed to get over most of what happened in the Ever After, there were still a few things that bothered her. Nightmares of Penny and Pyrrha reminding her of her failures, the way her body seemed to freeze when she saw a grimm as she silently questioned to herself if she was still ready for this, waiting for the tea to change into a rainbow of colors as she stared at it longer than intended, fingers tapping the cup before taking a quick sniff of the tea, and then a small sip. Her body relaxed as she tasted the familiar taste of chamomile, a small sigh leaving her lips. “Are you sure we should be relaxing like this? We could be trying to help out with the fights that keep breaking out-” 
“You need this, Ruby,” Oscar said, his voice filled with concern. “And we can all see it. You’re not like how you used to be. Always second guessing yourself, putting up a mask of optimism instead of genuinely believing it… we worry about you.” 
Weiss nodded and put a hand on Ruby’s shoulder. “And you still havent told us what happened between you and Neo. Anytime it comes up, you start clamming up and focusing on everything else around you.” 
“I’m fine-” 
“You “killed” yourself in front of us, Rubes,” Yang interrupted. “You looked us in the eyes and fell through the ground after drinking that tea. Please, what happened?” 
Ruby sighed and gently put her teacup down, her fingers shaking as she tapped the handle of her teacup, nails gently clicking against the porcelain. “Neo… brought back everyone I failed, everyone that I thought I could trust. Ozpin, Lionheart, Ironwood, Clover, Penny… Pyrrha.” The last name had come out quietly as she glanced at Jaune, her voice breaking. “She used Roman and the rest of them as a mouthpiece. She voiced her anger at me, reminding me of my failures. How I was too slow to save Pyrrha, that I could’ve trusted Ironwood, that I let Penny die, again! I-I didnt want to fail you again. I… I didnt want to be me.” 
Silence filled the air as everyone took in what Ruby had just told them, and all she could do was stare at her tea, watching as her memories started to take over. The words from each of them, running through her mind, no matter how much she tried to push it away. 
“Who were you to think that you knew best for Atlas?” 
“But I traded my life so my friends could live!” 
“Just like you were too late to save me at the Vytal Festival… I died in Atlas too, didn’t I? Can you imagine what that's like? To be completely and utterly failed... time and again... by someone who meant the world to you…”
“How many more lives do you have to ruin before you realize you’re not cut out to save anyone?!” 
Her arms shook as tears started to well up in her eyes. Months of emotions that she had held back, months of trying to keep herself calm only to watch everything slowly slip away over and over again finally started to hit the breaking point as she felt everything slip for a moment. 
“None of this is your fault, Ruby.” 
Ruby flinched as she felt Jaune’s hand on her shoulder, a tear dropping from her cheek and onto the table as she looked over at him, shaking her head. “I couldnt save Penny, I was too slow to save Pyrrha, Atlas fell because of my plan.” 
“You saved thousands, Ruby,” Oscar said with a smile as he placed his hand on hers. “Atlas may be gone, but her people are here, surviving. I cant say its been easy for any of us, but I can say that without you, the world wouldnt be as united as it is now. Everyone heard your message, and help came. Because of you, we’re in a better spot. Because of you, people have lived and we have a chance to stop Salem.” 
Ruby nodded and looked around at her friends, her family, all of them far from home and even farther from the people she had first met. “What if… what we’re doing isnt enough? What if all we’re doing is delaying Salem? She already has two relics, who’s to say she doesnt have the crown now?” 
“Then we’ll be by your side no matter what!” Nora exclaimed with a grin. 
Blake smiled and sat down next to Ruby. “And we’ll be here for you to lean on, to share this burden so you’re not the only one carrying it.” 
“But what if I’m wrong again?!” Ruby pulled her hand away from Oscar and clutched her head. “Pyrrha sacrificed herself so the rest of us could live, I thought I knew what was best for Atlas and the kingdom fell, everyone I’ve tried to help has died and no matter how many times I try to do things differently, all I do is ruin everything for everyone!” 
Weiss sighed and looked down at her rapier, thumbing the empty revolver. “We all made mistakes and what happened in Atlas didnt have any easy answers. All we can do is move forward. Which means resting and trying giving yourself time to grieve. Time you havent been giving yourself. Besides, you said it yourself, that was Neo trying to get to you. Penny would never think you let her down.” 
Ruby took a breath and wiped the tears from her eyes as she tried to calm herself, her heart still pounding in her chest. “Right… I’ll… I’ll get some rest.” 
“You can trust the rest of us to keep everything under control until you’re ready again.” Oscar stood up and smiled, his eyes flashing green. “And I promise you, Miss Rose, all of us are grateful for what you’ve done. Even if it doesnt feel like it, you’ve done much more to help others than you know.”
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rwby-sk · 1 year
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from what I recall neopolitans name was changed to neo politan do you think they did this so neo can join team jnpr as the new p
I haven't seen that change
But if it's true
It would make JNPR again
JNPR 2.0
(I've already gone through why Oscar doesn't count)
And that would make me VERY VERY happy
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I just want Neo and Jaune to be partners so bad
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etincelleart · 11 months
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You got an ask like a week ago about Penny being the P in JNPR 2.0 WHEN she comes back, and I really liked your answer so I wanted to add my two cents. Mostly I just think that Penny needs to be part of another team, away from Ruby. From day one Ruby has been her closest friend and partner, and I think if Penny is going to try and find out who she is outside of being an android she needs to do that with some other people. Of course I think her and Ruby should be together and be friends (and confess their undying love for one another), but I think they need some healthy boundaries and to learn to be ok being apart for like, a day or something. Its fair to say they both are going to have attachment issues. But also! Penny and Nora! The friendship we never knew we needed!
Finally, with all of Penny's stuff, we often forget just how tied she has been to team JNPR from the start. It was Pyrrha's semblance that dismembered Penny the first time, of course it was not on purpose and Pyrrha was manipulated by Emerald, but that still happened. And I think that it is easy to forget that what happened to Penny was clearly one of Pyrrha's final regrets, and one of the main driving forces behind her decision to become the Fall Maiden and ultimately sacrifice herself. So I think it would be very poetic for team JNR to help Penny learn who she is, and in a way bring back to life the person Pyrrha thought she killed.
I can only agree with everything you said ! I LOVE Ruby and Penny together and they are definitely meant to stick together forever (xD), but Penny actually being able to make new friends would be super nice. (like Ruby mentioned in V7 btw, but this time it would really be developped and awesome)
Actually this makes me think of the Windblume festival of this year's Genshin event (spoilers for those who haven't played) : Amber and Collei are very close friends, but Amber is Collei's only friend as well. So when she visits Mondstadt to see Amber, Collei is kinda left with other people on purpose by Amber who thinks it would help her to make new friends different from her. This would be exactly this for Penny ! Of course I'd love Ruby and Penny to be able to actually spend the time they want to spend together, but also see them overcome their fears of losing each other and allowing the other to explore, make friends for Penny, just enjoy this freedom.
And YEAH omg Arkos is involved in both of Penny's death this is insane. xD There are strong connection between all of these characters, and I truly feel like it would be a waste if Penny stayed dead and they never explored them
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notmaplemable · 1 year
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More random ships
Jaune X Ruby X Nora X Penny
Call it attack of the redheads
The Knight and the gingers
The Scythe, Hammer, and The Swords
JNPR 2.0
I need a hobby
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sytokun · 2 years
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i was wondering your thoughts on jaune as a character tbh. today i was thinking about atla and where it succeeded versus where rwby failed (especially because miles luna himself has compared rwby to atla multiple times).
one thing i disliked about rwby is that all four of the girls are super important in some way. ruby has silver eyes, weiss is the SDC heiress (richest company in the world), blake is WF leader’s daughter (also from a wealthy family), yang’s mom is a maiden. none of them are normal.
in atla, we have aang (the avatar), katara (who’s the last southern tribe waterbender… kinda?), toph (rich family daughter), zuko (firelord’s son) and sokka… who is completely normal. i like how they have a normal guy in atla which makes him relatable to the viewer.
the problem is in rwby, this normal guy is jaune. who ends up sticking along in the plot and being forced by the writers to be in situations which get him hate from the fndm. miles said jaune is partially inspired by sokka (dorky funny strategist type) but at the same time it means jnpr has to be part of the rwby adventures for jaune to be around. which makes people dislike jaune even more.
i kinda rambled but i was wondering yours thoughts on him? where did he fail where sokka succeeded and so on in your opinion?
Not to mention the inclusion of Oscar who is basically Normal Guy 2.0 before Ozpin came along, but yeah.
Hypothetically, Blake would have been a great everyman type for Team RWBY had she not been revealed to be of noble birth. Had she been written more as an orphan left to fight on the wilds outside the Kingdoms, her humble origin would have been a good contrast to the rest of Team RWBY, and grounded her with the audience within the team.
But in regards to Jaune, I've had some discussions on my server about him, and he's a tough nut to crack. Speaking of his failure within the context of canon, there is a definitely a disconnect between him being essentially a fifth main character and being a part of the B-team.
Another shortcoming is that he often, as many have and will attest, steals moments much better suited for other characters. Him vs. Cinder and killing Penny come to mind, both of which would vastly benefit Ruby more. And I think it's because he doesn't have an arc to speak of, ironically given his name.
For Sokka, he has a very distinct arc and dynamic within the Gaang that doesn't really overlap with the others. Neither Aang, Katara nor Toph are natural skeptics, nor are they non-benders, nor do they have an interest in technology or strategy. And his actual arc revolves around learning to be a man - not immature machismo, but responsibility and virtue. This alone lets Sokka occupy a niche that makes him valuable to the audience, because his unique experience is valuable.
However, Jaune, like Oscar, has many aspects that feel poached from other characters. His struggles as a leader steps on the toes of Ruby's arc as a team leader. His implied backstory as being from a line of famous Hunters can overlap with Weiss and the Schnee legacy (though due to how vague this detail is, there's room to play with this to make it more distinct). His niche as a strategist/tactician also overlaps with Ruby, leaving fans to headcanon distinctions between them, such as making Jaune a more "big picture tactician", while Ruby is a more "boots on the ground" strategist.
But the problem, as seen, lies in the fact that he offers very little to the audience, because what he offers, other characters can too. But because he does a little bit of everything, he is also always a little bit relevant to any situation, inflating his presence but not his importance in the show.
I've seen a post that posits that Jaune was at his most likeable in Volume 7, because there he was playing the role he should be to Team RWBY: a supporting character. While I do agree somewhat with this, as he was at his most likeable, being a sort of anchor trying to stay positive for everyone (nevermind that this is a trait overlapping with Ruby), he was also pretty... harmless?
I suppose it's because I've grown used to his extended presence, but him actually being more in the background also made him feel... kinda basic? There was really nothing too offensive, but also nothing terribly interesting for him to fall back on. He has no unique dynamic to bounce off of, no unique niche to fill. He's just kind of... there, occupying whatever vague role the story needs for him. And that makes him fairly forgettable; likeable only because he was no longer overstaying his welcome.
As for possible solutions, if I had to rework him from the ground up, I'd probably take Jaune in one of two directions, if not a bit of both:
A pampered noble. Lean more into his sheltered upbringing and weak start. He's from a long line of Hunters but for whatever reason was not raised as one or just lacks talent. Like Weiss but without any of the bite.
An underdog. This would work more if he was from more humble origins, but basically a no-name dude trying to work his way from the bottom.
Personally, I would lean more towards Option 1, if only because Oscar is clearly of humble birth and I would want to keep them as distinct from each other as possible. But for both, I would emphasize his underdog vibe as a weak fighter, as that is the one aspect he has in the series that everyone else doesn't.
Oscar would be weak too, but that's because he has no experience nor need to fight up until he joins the plot. But for Jaune, he would just be plain bad. He's bad at fighting even when he wants to be good, given his lineage, and that already creates a solid arc for him to work towards.
While Oscar would be fine with not being a fighter, it would be a source of a massive inferiority complex for Jaune, which totally checks out with how he behaves throughout Volume 1 and Jaunedice - sometimes even sabotaging himself because he's too stubborn to swallow his pride and admit he's weak and needs help, because a scion of a reputable Hunter family shouldn't be this weak.
As for his dynamic with the rest of the cast, knowing this, I'd probably make him incredibly weak, but also incredibly determined. While other characters can be determined too, Jaune would be so to an absurd amount, because he has to make up for his weakness with sheer will and persistence. If he falls down, he would get up more times than everyone else because he falls down more than everyone else. When faced with a problem, his natural inclination would just be to throw himself at it until either side yields.
This would be compatible with him having lots of Aura too. He's like a rock - uncomplicated in nature and immovable when it counts. Rather than make him a tactician, I'd make him the source of morale of the cast. People would be inspired by Jaune because even if he doesn't contribute much to a fight, he'll always be the last one standing; and seeing him would encourage the others to stand back up and continue fighting.
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howlingday · 1 year
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could i pls have a link to part 1 of the tai 2,0 posts? also what exactly is the plot of this Au, and which characters does the “armored rosebush” ship consist of?
Okay, first of all, here's the master list, which includes all parts of Tai 2.0, and please note that there are NSFW bits within.
Now, secondly, the story thus far is while RWBY are on a mission, Summer sleeps with Jaune, Ruby and Yang's boyfriend, who reminds her of Tai. The four agree to date each other, and are then joined by the rest of Team JNPR. Meanwhile, Raven Branwen is plotting to fight everyone for some reason, as warned by Qrow.
Thirdly,
Sharing is Caring/Sunlit Knight is the ship Ruby x Jaune x Yang
Rosebush Knight is the name of the ship Summer x Jaune x Ruby
Rosebush Dragonslayer is the ship name of Yang and Ruby x Jaune x Summer
Armored Rosebush Dragonslayer is the ship Ruby and Summer x Jaune x Pyrrha x Yang
Armored Rosebush would be the ship for Summer and Ruby x Jaune x Pyrrha
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beta-adjacent · 1 year
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RWBY dynamic placements
(but I haven't seen RWBY in literal years and I REFUSE to Google anything bc it's funnier this way)
RWBY
Ruby-- listen. I'm gonna argue she has no dynamic at the start of the show because that sounds fun to me; she's 14 or something so it checks out. I think presenting as an alpha would be too easy but it makes it great for later on when the weight of being leader starts building on her shoulders. So since that seems like a Rooster Teeth move, Ruby as alpha 2023
Weiss-- she has the Rarity Effect AKA she's very feminine but confident and that makes it an intially omega hc turn quickly to an alpha one. But she has problems with being younger and not good enough I think sooo..... beta? Would that be enough to cause angst for her? Beta or omega.
Blake-- Omega. She has two exes and her entire arc with them is that she's basically their codependent lackey. I'm sorry, it's true, it's omega energy! She gains better leadership skills by vol 9; I'm allowed to roast her like this because she grows ok
Yang-- Big sister energy really makes me want to say alpha but never underestimate the flexibility of a beta here. Also something about BY being one of the most popular ships and also be omega/alpha is boring. But ughhhhhhh Ruby was raised by Yang.... fuck it, alpha for now
JNPR
Jean-- Weiss Effect, whatever brings more angst is good. I'm personally going for omega because he was a Pyrrah simp hardcore but beta because I could see that too
The Asian dude (I'm SO SORRY 😭 REN! is it REn?!??!)-- any interpretation is great from what I remember, I'm personally arguing alpha because he deserves it. I'll say... dynmafluid?
Penny(?? Is that the robot or the one like Amy from Sonic)-- she's heavily destructive and her positive attitude holds the group together. Any interpretation is banger. Pandynamic for sure
Pyrrah (in case Penny wasn't what the P stood for)-- ok we're either going for alpha for the perfect leader stereotype or omega for the perfect leader stereotype. I could see beta but only if Rooster Teeth made it like.... :O *gasp* a secret Jean gets to learn before she dies!
Everyone Else I Remember
Penny (in case that is the robot)-- she's a robot but uhhh... shit, what was her purpose again? Was she a killing machine? Alpha for intimidation.
The monkey dude (sorryyyyy)-- beta, just vibes
Blue hair and pronouns guy-- omega or beta, again it's just vibes
Neo-- omega but she learned a lot from all the other villains so her body language could mimic any dynamic
Bowler Hat guy-- beta probably let's be real
Adam?? Blake's ex??-- he's an alpha but he's AGGRESSIVE about it. He actually thinks he's an alpha like the sexist men ones. Like, "being an alpha was a Right given to me by God so I could Grindset my Mindset" and everyone is like bro chill.
CINDERBLOCK -- LISTEN she's hot shutupshutupshutup giving major alpha energy but you start quetsioning that when you meet whoever that blonde bitch is from I think season 6 or 7 who's controlling the dark underworld. Oh hey speaking of....
Whoever that blonde bitch is from I think season 6 or 7 who's controlling the dark underworld -- beyond a need for dynamics
Ozpin -- uhhhhhh listen he's the king of the school or whatever but he's an omega. SHUT UP JUST TRUST ME HE'S THE MANLIEST MOM EVER
Oscar AKA Ozpin 2.0 -- unpresented, he's like 12
Isla AKA also Blake's ex???-- uhhhhhhh omega ig???
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psyga315 · 2 years
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One major thing about RWBY that a lot of people need to understand is that RWBY isn’t political. Sure, you can identify political themes such as the Faunus racism bit or the entirety of everyone related to Atlas being boiled down to “capitalism/military bad”, but they’re not the major themes RWBY focuses on.
Hence why we never go deeper into both the Faunus racism subplot or the Mantle class war subplot. The story touches upon them, but never makes them the central focus, but rather plot devices at worst and character motivators at best.
The most we got to solving the Faunus racism story line is Blake literally going “I don’t have the solution” and even then, as though proving Blake right, after the climax of that story line, we still have racism to go about but never going beyond one or two racist remarks from a clear asshole who needs to be taken down a peg.
The Mantle subplot is a little iffier because it has been the major impetus for almost every conflict in the Solitas arc. But at most, the class warfare is not a major focus, rather the background to fuel the actual story. It’s the treatment of Mantle that justifies Ruby’s lie to Ironwood, it’s how much control Atlas has over Mantle that leads to the heating grid getting shut off and leading to a Grimm invasion and it’s the current state of Mantle that drove Yang apart from the rest of RWBY (and by extension, Nora from the rest of JNPR 2.0/ALPN). As Ironwood brings up, it’s been about Mantle the whole time.
But at the same time, while there’s a clear theme of class warfare going on, it’s not the major focus, nor is the whole “good soldiers follow orders” bit. Rather, the major themes for both Volume 7 & 8 were about learning to trust others and taking risks to get the best case scenario respectively. Mantle and the politics surrounding it were only just excuses to drive the narrative towards those two themes.
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tumblingxelian · 1 year
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mental image: teams RWBY, JNPR, and CFVY on a frozen pond during winter, playing ice-hockey
Food with 2.0 with CFVY too, chaos, pure chaos,
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diddyspice · 2 years
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What if RWBY and JNPR 2.0 make a fake Vault of the Summer Maiden just to fuck with Cinder. She somehow opens the vault and then she sees this mother fucker.
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"YOU SEEK THE RELIC OF DESTRUCTION, YES?"
Cinder: YES! Reveal this to me!
"YOU COULD START BY CLIMBING THE LEDGES AND THEN SLIDING DOWN INTO THE PIT OF DESPAIR. FROM THERE YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF CLIMBING THE LADDER INTO THE SHRINE OF THE SILVER MONKEY. ASSEMBLE THE PUZZLE AND DIVE INTO THE SWAMP! WADE THROUGH THE MURKY WATERS TO THE ROOM OF HARMONIC CONVERGENCE! BUT BEWARE THE TEMPLE GUARDS!"
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megashadowdragon · 2 months
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rwby remake idea 2.0
I am going to be frank I have always loved rwby and the show  Ido not ship bb and feel it comes off as direction change even if they did plan it from the start they didnt give it the buildup
1. we would take the original rwby and expand on it to be more than what it was like opm webcomic to the manga and ff7 original to the remake. In the ff7 remake we got to explore the other members of avalance more so we got to care about them. midgar would feel alot more alive then it had been before, and the exploration of the  wutai conflict etc.
taking stuff from the entire compilation like ff7 dirge of cerebrus  and before 0. rwby remake will take stuff from extra material besides the dc comics and ice queendom
Shinra in the original game was nowhere near as competent and manipulative as Remake Shinra like shinra/hojo in the original game didnt know ifalna died until he was told years afterward
In the opm manga characters got to be more than what they were   a characters relationships got to be stronger than it was where they got a meaningful conversations and this led to a positive choice/change on a characters part where in the webcomic it amounted to a guy appearing going to one guys house to play games etc
a character being much more heroic than they were in the WC ( it can be said that the WC of the character and the Manga version took their experiences and what a guy said in two different ways) and their relationship with a certain character was much better not to mention a g a certain group of  villains were more threatening , and this also led to a change of events for certain characters. ( like rather than side characters randomly meeting people who were good counters  , those fighters were specifically chosen to go against them) (also the side characters got better showings then in the WC This made it so that one character got to end in a better place than he ended up in the original opm webcomic, and the fact we got to see a fight that didnt happen in the webcomic. etc
blacksun would be canon  as for what the other ships would be involving weiss and ruby ( that depends on what ship becomes canon in the original .
 ( truth be told blacksun and renora were my only otp  in rwby) 
( like in the original arkos is also teased in the beacon era ( basically I am not touching the team jnpr ships ( as in the ones where they teased with their partners) 
rwby remake gets a full anime time I have always felt it would have done better if it had gotten that given how many times they brought up having to cut things out
psykoknight65.tumblr.com/post/645570800232153088/i-think-the-biggest-issue-with-rwby-is-its I think the biggest issue with RWBY is it’s pacing. Like, we have SO many characters and SO many ideas and so little time to explore them all in any depth that sometimes it just feels like a list of events that the writers need to get through. Season 8 has been the best season so far IMO but i still have to point out how rushed everything has been. Okay so we’re gonna have Emerald defect, we get one, maybe two lines acknowledging that she has in fact defected, and then within two episodes her semblence is the keystone in the plan to defeat ironwood. It feels…. utilitarian. The fact that Emerald was the one that "killed” penny the first time around? Implied through one line that was mostly a joke. I mean, her actions directly lead to pyrrha’s death, but JNR dont even seem to consider that because there’s no time to go into any depth with her character. I don’t in any way blame the writers because thats just… what happens when you have a project this high concept with this many characters as your first ever attempt at writing a story. But its still a flaw that needs to be pointed out. -berserk anon, again A: kob131: Yeah I see what you mean with Emerald. Ever since I started talking on Tumblr, I’ve said this- RWBY is bare bones. What I mean by this is that the show has very little if not zero extrenious elements or moments to it. In other shows you have a bit of extra time or fluff or something to make the show more fleshed out and balanced. Kind of like breathing room. RWBY on the other hand is constantly hitting off major point after major point without anything extra in it. Things like society’s view on depression due to the Grimm or how suicide is looked at in this society? Or any relationships the cast has of what is necessary at that specific time? Or just a little bit of time to develop things (like your example with Emerald)? Can’t do that. Got a giant ass world to go through, a tightly wound plot, a bunch of characters to consider and fucking more if I tried to think. Even something as simple as setting up the Pyrrha statue with a quick shot of it just slightly out of frame once is too much. Just about everything hits exactly as much as is necessary for the show to function before racing off to another necessary moment. The only show I’ve seen more bare bones than RWBY is Gunbuster. …And that was more of an OUTLINE of a show. But I have to disagree on one point: This is not their first story. Red Vs. Blue existed before this and the part that a RWBY writer was involved in (Chorus Trilogy, Season 11-13) shows similar issues (like the abundance of characters and being tightly wound though not to RWBY levels). This really is likely the result of inexperience. A few years in a writing class or practice probably would help RWBY out a lot. But Miles and Kerry didn’t start out as writers. They were interns that got roped into a story that got REALLY ambitious and big without knowing what would happen. That’s just how the cookie crumbles at times. … Also a longer production period to make longer episodes would probably help since, from what I’ve heard, a LOT gets cut in RWBY’s production. That last point is something I always say Especially when they said the reason why they took like a 2 month break in between this season was to make the last handful episodes better. Which makes me think why didn’t you just wait longer than a year to make this volume.
There was nothing problematic the the white fangs portrayal they started off as good ( ghira) but got impatient and sienna took over ( and while she isnt as bad as adam she is a terrorist leader  who hada big impact on adam and we will emphasize that she is just not as bad as adam but still bad) 2.    we will delve into sienna and adams past and how adam became who he was and how sienna started the fire which led to her downfall  and adam falling into his inner darkness. and emphasizing that in the end ghira was right about his methods  while ghiras methods were slow they were  stable while violence would be quicker  in the short term but would be bound to fall apart  and lead humans to deem faunus a threat ) that siennas advocation of violence would be her starting a fire she couldnt control leading to adam and co seeing her as not violent enough leading to them betraying her for adam.  siennas semblance as a metaphor for this she saw adam in a emotionally weak position and his inner darkness and took him in to get him on her side and believe what she believes and that along with him giving into his darkness and his hatred would slowly corrupt him iinto the man he would become well I say corrupt but it would be more like enabling his worst tendencies leading to those tendencies to consume him for he wasnt criticized for his behavior. He  enjoyed seeing the humans in pain and had a sadistic smile a darker side of him but enabling him led him to becoming worse overtime also ( I would call sienna as opportunistic  taking advantage of young adams troubles and inner darkness to draw him to her side and beliefs and to help take over the fang and turn it into the violent terrorist which would fit with her semblance
( in the adam trailer its implied that sienna used adam to push her agenda when he wasnt mentally well sienna condoned/enabled his darker desires which led to him going from someone  who would go take what we deserve to take what I deserve. (sienna didnt stop adam from killing the sdc officer out of morality nothing shows that . they were on a mission so they couldnt take the time out of the day to kill one guard . also sienna didnt criticize those actions.
I would emphasize that  while sienna wasnt as bad as adam she is stil lbad  is  basically sienna started the fire which she couldnt control and that fire/darkness consumed her she was the one who advocated for violence and adams mentor  who he listened to and whose actions sienna condoned  never punishing him until he fell off the deep end and by then it was too late It had gotten to the point his influence spread to the rest of the fang and her guards with them believing she wasnt violent enough. think of it like sienna letting him listen to his inner darkness  his desire for violence enabling him to become worse than what he was 
maybe have someone bring up that in the end sienna’s was destroyed by the fire she made that she advocated for violent and this set up on the path which led to the white fang being so radicalized that they saw her as not violent enough.
Maybe have ilia realize that sienna' khan’s methods weren't good either  ( like have her be conflicted even with sienna’s methods and have blake bring it up  that  the radicalization sienna' started destroyed her.
or have sun comment it when he was suggesting destroying the white fang
 that if white fang got so radicalized that they would kill sienna' the one who started the radicalization   it needs to be destroyed
(maybe name drop sienna' in v2 and have sienna' outright show dislike for her)
maybe put a suggestion of changing the white fangs name to something like white paw ( to represent an outstretched hand to represent the desire to unite human and faunus together)
since even fangs carry the threat of violence and the Grimm had white fangs ( which is why the name still fits after the Grimm masks started being put on though part of me would want to suggest changing the name to red fang when sienna' takes over to help differentiate between sienna' and ghira’s white fang in discussions. ( I mean Monty gave faunus human ears  to help with cosplay)
since I recall that in the black trailer manga it was suggested the name was chosen to represent a fang untouched by bloodshed.
basically emphasize that the  violence sienna khan advocated  for  led to adam taurus and the people who supported him
that feeding to desire for violence the hatred   slowly warped the white fang into wanting genocide
that it was a poisonous
I would also emphasize that the ghira’s methods were working but sienna khan and others were impatient and felt it was too slow that it would be faster to get violent and force people to do what they want
basically ghira’s methods were methods that truly worked  but were slow and stable ( and during an argument  with sienna he brings up the rwby equivalent of rome isnt built in a day and says that while its slow its stable while your methods to build something would end up collapsing on itself you wont be able to control what you have built and sienna dismisses it )
sienna’s violent methods were were faster due to it being easier to inspire fear but created unstable ground that was bound to give out  due ot a mix of the hate humans would have of them  (  which would  win over fear   ) and 
the radicalization of the white fang ( since once she gave the okay for violent methods it would lead to radicalization by people who thanks to celebration for their violence  led to them getting worse and worse ( basically feeding into the fire of hatred to cause it to grow  and lead her to her destruction )
adam being given the okay to enact violence led to him getting worse and worse
emphasize that when you give the okay for violence its hard to control it and that sienna’s ideaology for causing fear isnt helpful for that
 4. include filler to have the characters interact more with each other , for example having blake and ruby mention fairy tales and talk about their favorite ones in some of the early episodes
like maybe as a joke ruby stumbles upon blakes journal and was about to read some fanfiction blake made about the rusted knight and blake catches her and diverts her attention into a talk about fairy tales  and the meanings behind them
 maybe do the same thing with blake and sun and have blake and sun go to tuckers shop to check out the books there. Sun due to finding out blake is really interested in books decides to start looking more into books/fairy tales  and asked blake what books are she interested in, what books does she recommend, and asking her to tell him a good place to get books etc 
This would make it so they found tuckers body. tucksons being a former white fang member who owns a book store would be a neat set up to have tukson and blake know each other. This would be a neat way to lead up to the v2 blake arc with blake being effected by tuksons death 5. we keep suns original v1-v3 appearance with blonde hair and dark eyes and tanned skin it has a nice contrast with blake having pale skin black hair and golden eyes. 6. For adam we can possibly go with him being a silver eyed warrior unless the crwby wants to say that being a SEW means you never go bad  for adam we can have him end up being grimmified by salem as a reference to how he references the beast from beauty and the beast and how he started to put the grimm mask on as a reference of becoming the monsters they think we are This  can have two avenues First Option:  The v6 finale fight never happened and he was captured by salem due to hazel who brings him in after seeing his silver eyes.In the adam trailer adams mask fell off so they could see his eyes right then, or maybe his mask would get knocked off during the haven fight 2nd option he survives the v6 finale fight is captured but freed by cinder who saw him as still useful and convinced him by telling him we are going to bring down atlas and the fact she saw his silver eyes and remembered the fact that salem wanted ruby rose  so she thought she could use him as a tool before giving him over to salem  in an attempt to please her.
it would neat for the grimmified adam vs ruby to happen given monty outright stated the difference between them is scatter vs wilt ( life ( propagation of seeds) vs death wilting is when a rose dies and turns ugly) and the whole bulls chasing the color red is of course this depends on how long the grimmification process takes
so maybe the grimmifcation process happens  after atlas arc ( the hound would still be a thing so during the v8  finale blake tried to warn him but he didnt believe her and  he ended up stabbed in the back in a metaphorical way  before taken to salem 
either way the v6 finale fight Blake would say something to emphasize that she has no romantic interestv in yang 
 the 3rd avenue is that he ends up encountering cinder leading to him after v5  so the v6 finale fight doesn't happen instead it happens in atlas 
( he isnt a sew  in this situation
( I don't get why yang grabbed the knife when Adam was charging at blake (yang doesn't use weapons it would be faster for her to  just tackle Adam and grapple /punch him)
before someone brings up instinct given that yang doesn't use weapons wouldn't her instinct/reflex point to her using her body
(maybe if we go Adam still ends up dying we can make it so when blake grabbed the knife she closed her eyes  and went for the stab due to not wanting to see Adam die ( so instead of killing Adam while he was going for an attack it would be Adam while he was already subdued )
4th avenue the blake and yang fight still happen like in canon
and either
adam dies but blake ends up bringing up how she didnt need to kill him sometime afterwards ( like when yang tries to go they did what they need to do and yang actively chose to kill him)
or adam survives but isnt a sew
7. Sun wukong in the rwby remake knew how to read and write
and as aresult of hearing that blake died when the crew ended up in vacuo 
he would grieve  and wonder if he could have saved blake if he went there with his team
either 1 blake tells sun about salem
2.
 ozpin explicitly tells Blake not to tell sun about Salem because ozpin felt it was a burden he didnt need to bear and brought upp  that  sun might let it slip ke blake would acknowledge that  its a burden while showing trust and respect for sun  
or sun does learn  about Salem from blake o maybe due to sun seeing the vision of salem emerald shows
 I think that blake should have been more sympathetic to ozpin ( comparing salem and him to adam and blake) and realizing that ozpin told salem about the relics   along with the other possible times his trust was betrayed leading him to his secret keeping and remarking on the infinite man)
and bring up how he
so while at first she is angry but she comes to sympathize with ozpin ( while still  losing hope)
saying she didnt tell sun because of the burden and it could be compared to ozpin not telling them  
(even in the scenario where sun finds out  about salem thanks to seeing emeralds trick
maybe  in a filler scene where they are talking about a book and sun comments about being a ninja  Blake doubts he can be an actual ninja given how he was with the blake being an ex white fang
or maybe sun i
8.   blake or someone else during the v4-5 points out that sun left his team  and  sun will claim its different going they are fine he was planning on going back  and blake wasnt planning on going back to her friends which would just hurt them and her. 
he left to help blake
Also it would be outright stated that sun thought she was going to try and pick a fight with the wf due to her reaction to tucksons death ( he didnt know about her relationship with adam)
and sun would show trouble with  going to people / due to it not having immediate results (in btd it was stated that sun didnt  usually like doing something that didnt seem like it would have an end point but blake changed him so we can show suns  character development here) 
it would be added that sort of impatience swayed some people to join the wf or not try which caused suns tune to change
maybe bring up kali for this and have someone point out the similarities between blacksun and ghira x kali
Also blake would outright ask about suns past and family history due to a desire to learn more about him after realizing
and in this verse the white fangs flag after sienna took over changed to black and red basically replace the blue part with black 9. for the blake and yang moments ( keep the blake and yang moments in v2-v3 the same) 10. WEiss in the original rwby talked about how as long as she remembered they were being the faunus attacked her family but the wf only became violent  a couple of years ago either do one of two things Either  say that the there were other violent faunus groups besides the white fang but when the wf became violent siennas absorbed them. the other option being that change weiss’s dialogue to the last couple of years but that doesnt carry the strength  that the first option says so I prefer the first option I have an idea  maybe make it so  that  sienna and adam helped with the violent faunus groups with adam being told to do so,  and that the attack on the group happened due to people noticing adam. This could mean that they thought  they were with the violent faunus group who was part of the attack, which would lead to sienna taking advantage of it etc its possible that jacques had seen ghira as a thorn in his side to due the peaceful protests etc and it would fit the as long as i remember line. ( ghira caused change to slowly happen and that change cost jacques money. which would add how  ghiras change  slow  but stable rather then ineffective which I have seen some people claim
12. the whole jaunedice arc stays, dance arc stays, jaune being the one to kill penny and go to the ever after stays jaune is a main character  team e are main characters. jaune gets the screentime he deserves in the original rwby . the people who claim jaune gets too much screentime are being ridiculous
rwde has been connected with rwby hatedom due to how many times people bend overbackwards to attack rwby to the point they ignore basic things.
Or attack rwby for doing things which other shows have also pulled
the attack on jaune is partly due to miles being a writer so they try to use the bs that jaune is a self insert  to hit him with a cudgel to try and get him to do what they  want its why after v5 he got less screentime  and after getting volumes of not getting much they whine about jaune getting something to do in v8 . they just whine about him doing anything important or getting a moment of screentime.
like whining about how jaune and ruby being foils where  he was contrasted with rubys own breakdown 13. get rid of the cloaked skulking thing that sun was pulling when they both boarded on the boat ( I feel that the writers just did that to add some tension but make it so that sun doesnt pull that and straight up goes to blake) . also make it so that sun was just waiting  invasive moment to knock on the door, and warn Blake about a possible direct agent of Adam Taurus operating in Kuo Kuan ( I feel the bathroom lie was just for a joke sun didnt have a reason to hide this info from ghira  though its possible blake didnt want to get ghira involved 14. have blake and yangs relationship be like sisters they  are not romantically interested in each other  yang can still be bisexual or what ever I dont care blacksun is my otp so blacksun is endgame
and the tension between yang and blake will still be there after v6 ( with maybe yang still having insecurities  or doubts in blake ( which show in her feelings about blakes time with sun and wondering if she would have preferred being suns partner or thinking that blake chose to bring sun along of course this will be settled in v9
and yang will fully trust blake ( I got this due to a rwby song which sounds like yang doesnt trust blake I believe its all that matters) 
)
15. I would have a benevolent racist like the guy from teen titans 
“or a guy whose actually nice but…thinks lowly of the Fanaus without being mean. You know, kind of like how that guy in the Teen titans episode acted at the end but in general.The Youtuber Shady Doorags made a video about the 2000’s Justice League cartoon, about an episode where the heroes get transported into the setting of a 1950’s superhero comic. And in it, the Flash stand-in tells Green Lantern (whose an African American man) that he’s ‘a credit to your people’. And that’s kind of what I was thinking- Someone who is geniunely good but is still racist to show that racism is more complicated than 'racist equals asshole’. The person is good but still wrong, still a product of an ignorant society. Unlike say…Weiss, whose at her most racist AND antagonistic at the same time.“
and maybe have someone who hates white fang do to something bad happens to him ( like what ransik did in power rangers time force ( where after he helped a faunus ( a member of the white fang and saved his life they killed his family
or to quote sunder-the-gold
“The child of a human that Sienna Khan's methods got murdered, who has no reason to see faunus as anything other than the monsters who killed her parent.
A shopkeeper who didn't want to have anything to do with faunus, who either had his store burned down, or who opened his store to faunus out of fear of having it burned down. How his resentment would fester, and he would decide that if the faunus weren't going to leave him alone, he wasn't going to leave them alone, so he started giving money and information to an anti-faunus group that promised to drive the faunus away from his home.
I'd show the faunus of Vale who abandoned the White Fang after Sienna took over, and who continued trying to peacefully protest for change. 
I'd show how Adam attacked and terrorized them because his ego and spite would refuse to allow faunus to act like they had any alternative than serving as soldiers in his personal war.I'd show the child of a human/faunus couple (like Velvet Scarlatina) getting harassed by the White Fang for having a human parent.“
16. again emphasize that  attempting to get rights through fear will only cause problems in the long run. Because it only works until the other group realizes that they’re stronger than you then you’re back at square one. Or even worse, considering that you may have caused some of them damage and thus they feel the same righteous anger you do. That’s why the Civil Rights Movement is so great- rights through respect caused a chain reaction that made racism the evil in society we see today instead of an accepted fact
17.  fix certain errors created by miscommunication with animators like instead of blake outright slapping sun she slaps him on the shoulder
instead of oscar just running down the corridor and punching neo when she should have dodged oscar will punch her right when she turns the corner when she cant see it
( neo will force ruby to drink the tea since I hear thats what she was supposed to do.
18. we will have the yangs and blakes meeting stay like it is  in drafts where yang got worried about how se could have hit blake but changing the weapons  to her gauntlets and show blake being  surprised 
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19. the first couple episodes would be based off the white black and yellow trailer ( well the episode after the first one which would be ruby confronting roman and meeting ozpin 
20. it would be outright stated that roman is from brunswick where he lost everything ( neo would compare her and roman to ren and nora ( with ren in romans place)
21.
I have always felt team rwby and jnpr are foils so would do more stuff to emphasize that ( or just emphasize that in commentary
maybe if we keep adams confrontation with blake and yang  and adam be it in v6 or in atlas goeswhat does she see in you blake doesnt just go you are crazy ( which is what a good amount of people brought up  in refutation) she would flat out state that she doesnt think of yang like that she is like a sister to her
adam is the abusive ex (I imagine there are tons of abusive exs who would think their abused partner is in a relationship with someone  or their relationship with someone is romantic when its not.
I recall a story where someone tried to kill someone because they thought he was making moves on his fiancee when he wasnt
( there is nothing wrong with keeping the handhold scene as blake and yang face adam ( after blake held yangs hand after it was shaking) or the plane scene ( if still in v6)  since neither of them was inherently romantic
and outright contrast their relationship to renora
outright stating that while renoras relationship was romantic blake nad yangs is platonic
if we keep it in v6 we have to say that adam appearing in brunswick farms  and the train   was a hallucination to explain why adam didnt kill jnpr (or include a scene where they fought adam off maybe
or have the confrontation be
20. besides blacksun all the ships that were canon in og rwby for team rwby and jnpr  will also be canon ships for rwby and jnpr
21. you know given that first 3 volumes  episodes were so short I could imagine fitting  in one season
( basically add in filler to expand on beacon academy and give them bonding moments during the school year
or maybe just v1 and v2 with v3 being shorter
also it always felt like to me  that RWBY used the Japanese school year ( given how animesque it is and how v3 ended close to winter.
so emphasize that the when sun first appears it was during the summer vacation (and that every time there is a vytal festival the students spent the last part of the year at one of the other academies ( in the hope to foster good relations between the other countries with the huntsmen
expand on the world building and bring up that humanity correlated the faunus with the Grimm ( believing that they were Grimm trying to disguise themselves as humans ( to correlate with Adam wearing the Grimm mask to represent becoming the monsters they think we are )
and this is due to the fact that Grimm often take the form of animals so in their eyes something that is like an animal but clearly isn't =Grimm ( basically superstistions 
and expand on the world building  showcase that a good number of vacuons hold a grudge to be frank.
(
and this led to a variety of fairy tales demonizing the faunus etc
22.maybe make it so blake due to knowing about the infinite man fairy tale would make the connection and go ozpin is the infinite man
and after ozpins rant  about how often he is deceived ( she would end up thinking of that he is the infinite man or thinking of it ) 
and while she would be angry at first she would quickly regret being angry due to seeing what he went through ( understanding towards someone keeping a secret due to fear) though her feeling about learning Salem is immortal is the same    
  and Blake   would miss sun  and it would bother yang'  due to her feeling Blake would rather be with her boyfriend then someone who is like a sister to her( which would touch on yang’s abandonment issues)
and would think of how she didn't trust sun with the knowledge even though she does trust his character
23. make it so ozpin recruited yatsuhashi earlier then Pyrrha due to his memory erasure semblance ( and utilizing magic with It so that if someone agrees to have part of their memory was erased its gone unless yatsu chooses to bring it back)
this way if Pyrrha declined the offer to become a maiden at any point  her memory would be erased to take the burden of knowledge of the maidens
(and yatsuhashi would agree to erase his own memories about it
and coco gets bothered that yatsu kept that a secret from them.
24. if we adapt btd  and have sun know about salem maybe make it so that sun brings up oscar’s nickname little boy oz that he overhears and yatsu ends up letting on that he knows something ( by saying sun should be quiet  (due to assuming he knows the truth
or we can keep the rest of them hearing about Salem through ruby’s message but ruby ends up bringing up yatsuhashi’s name as well
25.
to quote kob131 “Detail the conflicts between Fanus and humans as well as detail the history of Remnant with the Kingdoms. And also touch on things like how suicide, outbursts and public breakdowns are seen in Remnant due to the existence of Grimm.”
well I remember someone suggesting suicide for depressed people is encouraged due to the fact they would be Grimm magnets the idea came up due to jaune's reaction to thinking Pyrrha was telling him to kill himself ( also I would bring up that its possible that in remnant convicted by public opinion may have been a rule ( since if the public opinion thinks you are guilty and you aren't punished then there would be a lot of negativity ( maybe establish that in modern day vale etc that's no longer a thing since they are highly protected 
(due to his influence
maybe
and the desire to handle the mentally unwell is treated  more importantly then irl
though in some places like vacuo well they were put down in the past.
public breakdowns have been treated with worry due to the nature of Grimm and having a public breakdown/outburst can lead to Grimm ( or signs that this can cause Grimm to come)
“. You'd think a team of trained soldiers would notice all the signs of an impending mental breakdown - until you realize that Grimm-infested Remnant never needed to refine that skill. Every time a huntress started losing their grip, the stress would literally attract Grimm to their location, meaning other teammates could easily determine how bad the stress gauge was based on how aggroed the Grimm were. And if someone got angry enough to murder something, there'd be an endless slew of monsters to vent (or die to). “
maybe we can outright have this stated that if a huntsmen gets stressed   you can determine how bad it is by how agressive the Grimm are and the Grimm can be used to vent any negative feelings  ( this can be said about qrow and some stuff he did after summers death 
so if they were placed in a location with no Grimm that having a  breakdown can go uninterrupted
or bring up that ruby didnt look that upset
maybe a way we can make it so that blake and yang still end up separated from the rest of the group in ever after is make it so blake and yangs relationship wasnt fully healed in v6 ( after killing adam if that still happens) 
that they were on the path to healing and v9 is when their relationship is fully healed part of the things that hurt their relationship include ( blakes sympathizing with ozpin and suggesting they reacted badly) and blake talking about the time she spent with sun and wishing he could have come with . and yang being annoyed due to her abandonment issues and worrying that blake may have rather wanted sun as her partner instead
so the nonsense that yang spouted about blake being the only one to not be scared of her ( when we never gotten signs that this was the case in v1-v3)
howeve we will still keep some of the effects of yang being shown shooting an mercury in v3 by still having some people bad mouth yang and say she deserved to lose an arm for what she did to mercury or having glares   pointed at her by people who watched the festival
also
26. establish a timeline like say the length of sienna’s rule over the white fang and when  blake joins (maybe when she is 13 while showing a scene where adam  kills someone in self defense and says that ( maybe  the equivalent to the scene in v6 ( which we would change so ghira and sienna wasnt their ( instead he just calls sienna and she tells him what to do)
and then ghira and sienna showed up and ghira’s point was asking if he genuinely had no choice but to kill him or if he chose to kill them and was sadistic about it  prolonging it ( recognizing adam has darkness in him) and that it led to that guy being able to get close and questioning if it really was the only way to stop the guy or he just chose to make the attack with the intent to kill when he got that close ( maybe have this scene be the kill in self defense argument) bringinng up how fast adam is and his own personal skills/
also possibly change the reason for the attack ( just to make things diferent) since adam wore his grimm mask before that.
(I mean have the accidental kill be shown sometime before then ( which would be adam unlocking his semblance)
27. sun would be asked why he chose to become a huntsmen by blake and his response would be for fun( with the unmentioned part of being able to be useful enough to overlook his lawbreaking and his desire to find a place to settle down we would make it so sun shares the story about the tree with blake and he ended up coming to a realization that over time he began to view blake as akin to that tree) 
 and she ( maybe in v4 /5 ) would have a talk about that and how certain situations they are in mean they have to fight for more then just fun ( and sun will realize this that its his duty to help people even if he doesnt see instant results ( basically what they realized in v2) 
or maybe his answer to why he wants to be a huntsmen is a mix of allowing him to move place to place  with the underlying desire that he doesnt mention is to find the tree /home) 
, he is good at it , and he gets to help people ( so he already wanted to help people beforehand ( and blake would help him develop as a character by allowing him to be more patient and realize that there is  a point in doing something even if the results arent instantly apparent and he would compare it to how ghira’s methods ( og wf) methods were slow but they were better then trying to rush it with violent methods.
doing stuff that dont have instant results are still important
maybe he overhears about ilia overhearing adam talking about there being future attacks on other huntsmen academies
and this plays in suns head in vacuo
also ( maybe we can take rwby beyond ep 1 and sun can be more serious about thinking about where team rwby is and how they might not be dead even suggesting the ever after.
basically have a more serious version of ep 1 where sun convinced himself team rwby is in the ever after ( and he is doubted by some characters and maybe part of sun doubts it himself so he is shown crying )
maybe have sun not have any animosity towards the people of other counties ( and find it silly to express resentment for people from other countries for something their ancestor did 
and compare it to how some people looked at weiss
though he would not like coco’s get over it statement ( thinking she is saying get over what happened rather then get over the animosity  and pointing out the after effects of what happened)
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pedanticat · 4 years
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Rosegarden Week: Day 2 Wedding Headcanons
So while I did want to write a fic for Rosegarden week but just don’t have the time, I figure it would be fun to just list some headcanons of how I think the wedding and everything connected to it would play out. I hope you enjoy!
Oscar plans a picnic date for him and Ruby on the island of patch with him planning on proposing to Ruby during the picnic. However, before he can pop the question, Grimm intrudes on their picnic with Ruby and Oscar having to take them down. After defeating them, Oscar talks about how his life with Ruby is never boring when he’s with her and wants his life to always be this exciting which leads him to propose to Ruby. Ruby naturally says yes and literally tackles Oscar with a kiss. 
Since Ruby wants to invite every friend she and Oscar have made, the wedding is held in a church in Vale big enough to hold everyone. 
Weiss, Yang and Blake would all help plan the wedding 
Yang would crack a lot of puns about Oscar and Ruby love for each other, much their mutual embarrassment 
Oscar asks Jaune to be his best man 
Ruby celebrates her bachelorette party with the rest of team RWBY with Yang being in charge of an all the fun activities the girls will be doing 
For Oscar bachelor party, he would spend it with JNR with Nora being the one who comes up with all the fun activities since her list was better than what Jaune or Ren could come up with 
Tai and Qrow would walk Ruby down the aisle 
Weiss would be the wedding singer 
Jaune, Blake, and Nora are the one’s who cry over the wedding
Instead of releasing doves, Weiss would use her semblance to summon a flock of Grimm birds into the air. 
Two giant wedding cakes were required since Nora would eat half of one alone 
Nora would push everyone else out of the way to capture the thrown bouquet (even though she and Ren are already married) 
Just like in Dance Dance Infiltration, JNR would be the stars of the dance floor with Oscar dancing in synch with them 
@rwbyrosegardenweek​
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rwby-sk · 3 years
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Ren, finding the JNPR room in shambles as the fire-alarm blares and the carpet smolders: “What did you do?”
Nora: “In my defense, you left me unsupervised”
Ren: “I left you here with Jaune!”
Jaune: “Yes, but in my defense, you also left me here with Neo. We cancel each other out”
Ren, covering his face with his hands: “You know what? You’re right. This is on me”
Neo, patting his back: *We all make mistakes*
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