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mairontheabhorred · 9 months

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Tolkien Musical Fans Reblog with your favorite Finrod and Sauron!! I’ll go first

Seraphim as Finrod

Mikhail Sidorenko as Sauron

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heyclickadee · 6 months

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Swinging back to the Lord of the Rings again, one thing that I think gets completely lost in the Peter Jackson films is that Middle-earth is weird.

Again, I love the PJ Lord of the Rings films. They’re great films! This isn’t a post about the books being better than the movies, it’s a post about them being different than the movies, which isn’t a bad thing. And one of the huge background differences is that Middle-earth in the films is breathtaking, while Middle-earth in the books is also breathtaking, yes, but also very weird and very haunted and very alive.

There’s the whole situation with the fellowship trying to cross Caradhras, for example. In the films, it’s Saruman doing evil wizard shit and trying to force the fellowship to take a different route. In the books, Saruman’s not even involved—it’s just the mountain deciding to ruin someone’s day by making itself impossible to climb. When the hobbits first leave the Shire they try to take a shortcut through the woods, and the trees in these woods don’t like hobbits. In fact, they hold a bit of a grudge. And the grudge is justified from the trees’ points of view*. There’s (probably) not even any ents in this forest, it’s just some trees deciding they don’t want this little group of hobbits leaving the woods alive. And then, once they make it out of the woods, the hobbits get attacked by the undead**.

There’s a kind of soft (hard?) animism running throughout. The landscape has memories. There are ruins everywhere. There’s old, old music in the rivers and the sea. The eagles aren’t just big animals, dragons aren’t just big lizards, and the balrog isn’t just a monster. Elves sort of live in two planes at once. The hobbits and Aragorn spend about a chapter hanging out with a guy who definitely died this one time. The reason the ring makes mortals invisible is interesting and honestly kind of frightening. The planet used to be flat because (sshhhh don’t think about how that would actually work, I’m pretending it’s not completely literal). And a lot of those elements of Middle-earth are sad or horrifying, but a lot of it is furiously alive and funny, too—you get the stones of Hollin, but you also get Tom Bombadil being ridiculous with his hi-dol-derry-dols and yellow boots. But they’re mostly just weird in the best way, especially when you contrast them with the more straightforward high fantasy Middle-earth of the movies.

And I get why the movies are different in that regard. (Well, okay, I get most of why, anyway—the Barrow Downs sequence seems so up Peter Jackson’s former horror director alley that I can’t believe he didn’t take the chance to film it, but there’s only so much you can do in a movie and the movie needed to get the hobbits to Rivendell as fast as possible.) It’s mostly stuff that’s just easier to convey in a book where you can hint at things with narration and dialogue, and much harder to convey on screen. Especially when you’ve got a million other things to convey. So I’m not complaining. It’s just, you know. Different.

*That one ‘“You are never alone when there are trees.” “Is that a good thing, or a bad thing.” “That’s entirely up to the trees”’ video is the funniest thing I swear. Also relevant here.

** The undead? Kinda? It’s actually implied that the corpses in the barrows are possessed by much, much, much older spirits and not by the ghosts of the people who are buried there, but I’m sure what to call that.

#lord of the rings #tolkien adaptations

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maellor · 1 year

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Finrod's and Galadriel's interaction is much better in Finrod Zong than it is in Rings of Power, in my opinion

Rings of Power:

Finrod: "Do you know why a ship floats, but a stone cannot? Because the stone sees only downward. The darkness of the water is vast. [...} But the ship has a secret: for unlike the stone our gaze is not downward but up, fixed upon the light that guides her."

Galadriel: "But sometimes the lights shine just as brightly reflected in the water as they do in the sky. It's hard to say which way is up and which way is down. How am I to know which lights to follow?"

I'm sorry, what?? What does he mean a stone faces only downwards? A stone does have a side facing upwards. And their gaze is fixed upon a light that guides the ship? I'm sorry, it simply doesn't make sense. (It's not as if they are talking about returning to Valinor, like later in the episode)

And Galadriel, can't you see that the shapes and lights reflected in the water are distorted??

I get that all this is a big metaphor, of course. But it is simply badly written, in my opinion.

VS Finrod Zong:

Galadriel:

[...] And looking back,

My brother told me:

Finrod:

"See, sister, see

Pride is betrothed to Death.

Here one must be as everybody else

And I'm afraid I cannot do that."

Galadriel:

But I said: "Brother,

I'll go ahead nevertheless.

We have no hope left,

But there shines a new dawn."

[...]

See, my brother, see

My heart knows no rest.

We share one soul,

And yet our paths are so different!

Together:

But at the end of all partings,

In the land free of grief and misery,

A golden dawn will shine

Upon the joining of our hands.

(Lyrics translated from Russian)

I just feel like their interaction in F-Z is very well written, in comparison to RoP. It is more poetic, not only because it is song lyrics, but because the use of language brings out all the emotions. It is something that could be read on one of Tolkien's books, I think. On the other hand (the one Maedhros is missing), their conversation in RoP leaves me confused and unsure. It doesn't give me any feelings of longing, hope, love etc. And Tolkien is always about the FEELS.

Now before y'all come at me saying that Galadriel is a child in that scene in RoP and an adult in F-Z, I want to point out that both scenes are flashbacks.

Also, for those of you new to the Tolkien fandom, or those who haven't digged too deep yet, Finrod Zong is a Russian rock opera based on Finrod's life. It is GOOD. One version of it is available on YouTube, so feel free to check it out!

#rings of power #finrod zong #finrod rock opera #amazon rings of power #lotr rop #lotr rings of power #tolkien adaptations #finrod #galadriel #long post

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saentorine · 1 year

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Me, regarding character design for any race in Middle Earth:

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#elves obviously #but also hobbits and their feet #and dwarves with their beads #can't tell me aragorn don't let it fly in the breeze get caught in the trees and give a home for the fleas #still honestly my chief complaint about rings of power lol #hair in middle earth #race in middle earth #elves #dwarves #hobbits #lord the rings #the silmarillion #the hobbit #lotr movies #rings of power #trop #lotr adaptations #tolkien adaptations #tolkienverse

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middleearth-polls · 3 months

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#middle-earth #middleearth polls #tumblr polls #tolkien #the silmarillion #lotr #the lord of the rings #polls #category: pick something #category: tendency #category: adaptation

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caenith · 1 year

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Not all Tolkien stage adaptations are included 🫥

#tolkien #lotr #silmarillion #Tolkien stage adaptations

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erynalasse · 29 days

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What if Maedhros wasn’t nearly as protective and patient with his little brothers as fanon makes out?

A Maedhros who in Valinor lets all of his younger brothers dig themselves into holes, because it makes him look downright saintly by contrast

A Maedhros who scatters his brothers across the east of Beleriand less because it’s efficient and more because they’ll all drive each other insane if they don’t have their own things to control

A Maedhros who gives up the crown to Fingolfin as much to achieve peace as to get his loose cannons of younger brothers out of the succession

A Maedhros who (rightly) disdains the pride and foolishness of most of his brothers, and doesn’t hesitate to say so to their faces

A Maedhros who disdains all his younger brothers for failing to hold their lands during the Bragollach (“a king is he that can hold his own”) when he saved Himring

A Maedhros who never forgives Caranthir for obtaining the traitor Ulfang as an ally in the Nírnaeth Arnoediad

A Maedhros who secretly believes Celegorm and Curufin got what was coming to them at Doriath: they made the problem with Lúthien’s Silmaril, and then it killed them

A Maedhros who quashes Maglor’s desire to surrender after the War of Wrath less because of the suggestion and more because it came from his little brother

A Maedhros who is relieved as much as grieved when his brothers die one by one, because they can’t cause trouble when they’re dead

#tolkien #silmarillion #maedhros #like at the end of the day #this must just be such an awful family to be stuck in especially after the oath #you’re all in the same misery boat but that doesn’t make it better #and it’s the worst when you’re in charge of the misery boat like maedhros #I could definitely see some resentment breeding #codependency isn’t the only adaption even though it’s usually more fun to write #and maedhros can be just a little nasty #as a treat ok

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anghraine · 1 year

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I doubt I'll live to see it, but I was just thinking of how interesting it would be to have an adaptation of LOTR with largely diegetic music. Not ironically, either! There's so much music in LOTR, and Middle-earth's world-building is so deeply interwoven with literal music—and it's not that I don't really enjoy a lot of the non-diegetic Middle-earth music that exists, but a version in which you really feel how deeply musical the world is for the characters would be so cool.

#remember that bit in the silm about some people hearing the echoes of the ainulindalë in the water?#imagine if we can literally hear the sea-longing as music #/and so can legolas/#and even in places/scenes where tolkien doesn't supply much musically #it'd be interesting to see what diegetic music people could come up with #like when the people of minas tirith burst into all the city's ways of singing (which we haven't really heard in the book)#but in adaptation we could hear the different genres and languages of song as pippin navigates the social hierarchies #and then hear them come together when victory is announced :')#obviously that kind of detail is better suited to a series than a film but lotr is better suited to something episodic anyway imo #but yes. i'd really like something that leaned into the in-story music without going full musical #don't think it'll ever happen but well. still fun to think about!#anghraine babbles #legendarium blogging #legendarium fanwank #my little piano: music is magic

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vanwolffen · 9 months

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#lotr #lord of the rings #potatoes #samwise gamgee #smeagol #gollum #why are potatoes in the lord of the rings? they are from peru #maybe the elves brought them in between the time that smeagol was in the cav #and thats why he doesnt like them?#he is like those people that tried eating raw potatoes and got poisoned?#but why not corn which is more of a staple crop and grain #or tomatoes?#because the tolkien state curiously doesnt like that there are new world crops on the adaptations #but they are ok with potatoes because apparently tolkien himself didnt know they were from peru?#or tolkien knew and just didnt care?

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ads-for-nothing · 2 months

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Y'all are wrong the perfect Silm adaptation exists already and it's the German Playmobil Silmarillion on Youtube

#Silmarillion #Tolkien #Silm adaptations #this thing is a fever dream but I respect it #these people are the Valar btw #I think my fave is Ulmo who just looks like your average Northern German #Tolkien fanworks

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sunderedseas · 1 month

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“Saruman rose to his feet, and stared at Frodo. There was a strange look in his eyes of mingled wonder and respect and hatred. 'You have grown, Halfling,' he said. 'Yes, you have grown very much. You are wise, and cruel. You have robbed my revenge of sweetness, and now I must go hence in bitter-ness, in debt to your mercy. I hate it and you! Well, I go and I will trouble you no more. But do not expect me to wish you health and long life. You will have neither. But that is not my doing. I merely foretell.'” — Scouring of the Shire

#happy tolkien reading day #march 25th #scouring of the shire #one of my fav chapters #never adapted so i tried to make these images of them match #lotr #lord of the rings #frodo baggins #saruman #tolkien reading day #tolkien #jrr tolkien #jrrt

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mairontheabhorred · 2 years

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Listening to Finrod the rock opera isn’t enough I need to sing and dance with Seraphim in my room

#I know this vaguely implies he’s in my room too #he’s not #I meant like I’m singing and dancing to the performance on YouTube #Finrod the rock opera #Finrod #the silmarillion #Tolkien adaptations #Tolkien #theater etherius #seraphim #рок опера финрод #финрод #театр этериус #Серафим #mairon what

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heyclickadee · 6 months

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Weird confession, probably an unpopular opinion, but: I actually like a lot of the concepts and basic designs behind the costumes in the Rings of Power series more than I like the concepts and basic designs behind the costume in the PJ Lord of the Rings films (with the costumes for the rohirrim and the people in Gondor being the exception). Don’t get me wrong, the costumes in the PJ Lord of the Rings series look amazing. They’re gorgeous and, on the whole, better made than the Rings of Power costumes. It’s just that the there’s something very dungeons and dragonsy about the PJ Lord of the Rings costumes (especially for the elves), and I know that’s because there was a twenty year feedback loop where there was a slight DnD-ness to the PJ Lord the the Rings elf outfits which then just became standard Elf Clothes in LOTR fanart which then fed back into the people making art for the DnD handbooks, but still. And I’ll admit I’m biased—it just so happens that that aesthetic is one I don’t particularly like. So seeing the costumes in Rings of Power make a clean break from that was really refreshing. And they mostly look like clothes people would wear. And I love the ideas in the designs! Elrond’s brown cloak with the feathers? That’s a sweet little tribute to his mom. The gold dust makeup on Disa’s hands and her robe (which honestly looked better in action than it did in the promo shots)? Neat concept. Tar-Miriel’s crown (and all of her outfits, actually)? Stunning. I’m in love. I just wish the designers and costume makers had been given all the time they needed to really make every costume look as good as they probably looked in their heads.