#akumatized mister bug

[miracutrashcan]

Just some Akumatized Miraculous Holders I've drew the last couple of days thanks to the Miraculous Fanworks Fanart Wars prompt! Lady Blanche is probably my favorite one out of the trio.

Akumatized Mister Bug currently doesn't have a name, but his color scheme was inspired by the Asian Lady Beetle.

#miraculous ladybug #akumatized ladybug #akumatized adrien #akumatized marinette #akumatized mister bug #akumatized lady noire #my art #Lady Blanche #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #ladynoir

[wormzandgutz]

All of my ladybugs (minus Scarabella who is a convergent lady beetle btw) and their ladybug species

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[kikigeh]

I decided to write down the most striking information from the season 5 bible leak. DO NOT INTERACT if you want to go into the season blindly but do interact if you want to discuss it. Heavy spoilers under the cut.

A few things to note before we go on:

The document's final revision is from 2020, this means that THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT FINAL and the information might differ from what we will be seeing in the end product.

Also, a show's bible is meant to go over the key points of the story and characters, it's not necessarily a synopsis of everything that you'll see in the show so save yourself the immediate belief that the season is going to suck because character A or thing B are not mentioned in length here.

The bullet points go in order of appearance in the document, hence the jumps in subjects.

With that out of the way, let's start. FINAL WARNING, leave if you don't want to be spoiled.

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It is revealed that Marinette had a crush on Kim prior to the show starting. Confessing was a bad experience for her (thanks to Chloe) and that's the reason as to why she's so hesitant to confess to Adrien.

At the very end of the season, Ladybug and Chat Noir will finally be able to use their special powers without transforming back. They'll be able to use Lucky Charms/Cataclysms more than once.

Adrien will find the courage to tell Gabriel that he doesn't want to be a model.

Adrien realizes that he feels something special towards Marinette and, realizing that Ladybug will never love him back, he decides to pursue her instead.

Adrien and Marinette will have their first kiss on episode 23 "Collusion".

Gabriel, owing a favor to Tomoe Tsurugi, wants Adrien to be with Kagami.

Nathalie is described in the document as "eventually emerging as a surrogate mother to Adrien".

We will either see or hear what happens when Chat Noir uses his Cataclysm on a human being in the episode "Destruction"

Ladynoir's relationship will change; without Chat Noir's flirting and with Ladybug finally accepting that she needs him (no longer pushing him away), they become a perfect duo of platonic, supportive friends.

Lady Noire and Mister Bug make an appearance in Season 5 once more.

Ladybug will be merging the Ladybug and Black Cat miraculous herself becoming "BugNoire".

The merging of the Ladybug and Black Cat miraculous create a brand new Kwami whose ability is to grant a wish (Like Dragon Ball's Shenron). The magic formula is found within the Grimoire; Gabriel, however, does not know how to decipher it. This is why his goal is to find someone who does.

Ladybug/Marinette finds out Hawkmoth's identity. Chat Noir/Adrien, however, will NEVER learn about it.

Nathalie was introduced to the Agrestes by Mrs. Tsurugi. She was hired because she was a hunter of magical artifacts.

Nathalie is secretly in love with Gabriel and follows him blindly, however, she has a secret plan for herself and wishes to fuse the miraculous so that her own wish can be granted: Make Gabriel fall in love with her.

Monarch will akumatize people and then send out a miraculous their way this season.

At the end of the season, Gabriel will give up the butterfly miraculous and someone else will get a hold of it: Lila.

Lila has several identities and several families, somehow. She goes by Lila Rossi, Cerise and Iris Verdi for different scenarios.

Scarabella will make a comeback for the two episode special.

Chloe's butler's name is Armand; he's the only person who cares for Chloe. More about this will be brought up in the episode "Adoration".

Zoe has feelings for Marinette, but she doesn't dare to tell her. This will also come up in episode "Adoration".

Zoe will become the holder of the Black Cat miraculous during the two-part special.

Contrary to popular belief, there are no written implications about Juleka and Rose's relationship despite it being shown on-screen. Neither are there any implications about Marc and Nathaniel's.

Kim was ALSO in love with Marinette in 8th grade. He is said to be the root of Marinette's problems in the episode "Derision".

Kagami is described as having "powerful feelings" towards both Adrien and Marinette.

Luka will leave in Mid-Season 5 as to not compromise the identities of Ladybug and Chat Noir. He will leave with Jagged to Brazil, where he meets with Su-Han who will teach him Mirakung-fu. He'll go back to Paris in the finale.

Felix's new identity as the Peacock holder is called "Argos".

There will be several instances where we're reminded of Marinette's anxiety, mostly induced by her fears both as a civilian but also as Ladybug.

Marinette gives up on Adrien (or attempts to) and starts realizing that she may have feelings for Chat Noir, who has changed a lot since the end of S4.

Adrien asks Marinette out, which further complicates her feelings since she believes her crush on Adrien is detrimental.

Marinette is convincing herself that the one she loves is Chat Noir in order to forget about Adrien but he, who has given up on Ladybug, is intent on pursuing Marinette this time around.

There will be an apparent complete reversal of the lovesquare which may only culminate with Andre The Ice Maker's appearance to help them figure some things out.

Plagg and Tikki hurt from watching Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Chat Noir struggle with their feelings, which is why they opt for removing their miraculous and handing them out to other holders (Alya and Zoe).

Marinette thinks Zoe has a crush on Adrien. We know that that isn't quite the case and she is the object of Zoe's affection instead.

Lila and Chloe become the next class representatives. Lila is able to manipulate and control Chloe; because of their joint efforts, they become Monarch's strongest minions.

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I think the only three things I heavily dislike are:

1. The fact that Adrien will NEVER find out about his father 2. Lila is not a compelling character, so the show is definitely going to suffer with her as the lead villain. 3. Felix is not mentioned much, if at all. Seems like the sentimonster arc might take a backseat but then again, things could've changed during production from 2020 to 2022.

But other than that, I don't see why anyone would read the document and firmly believe that it's underwhelming. If anything, I find most of it extremely exciting compared to the other seasons. Only time will tell.... but anyway, until then, don't miss today's release of episode 1!

#miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #ml bible #ml leak #ml season 5

[fabseg-reader]

My review about Miraculous World: Paris, Tales of Shadybug and Claw Noir

This is a (first) review about a Miraculous element (especially an episode form Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir).

This post contains spoilers.

Today, I've watched the Special Episode. I am prepared for the watching. I will reveal my aggregation in the end of the post.

And now, time to read:

Plot:

This happens in the same moment (at the night) as the episode Destruction (5.03). After Monarch has been cataclysmed at the left arm and before he configurates the stolen Miraculouses.

In a parallel world, a Butterfly superhero named Hesperia (Gabriel Agreste/Gabi Grassette) who is helped by Alya, Nino, Max and Markov, leaves his homeworld universe for escape from Shadybug (Toxinelle) and Claw Noire (Griffe Noire), two evil versions of Ladybug and Cat Noir. When the three characters come to the Ladybug and Cat Noir main universe, Hesperia teams up with the two titular heroes for make the ShadyClaw duo into good people. At the other side, the evil counterparts try to steal the Butterfly miraculous to Hesperia (and later to try to combine the Ladybug and Cat powers for make their wishes).

I've learned about news elements in the Miraculous lore by watching the Special:

They exist some billions an infinity of Parallel Worlds in the lore.

Each Parallel World is home to one Tikki and one Plagg (so One Ladybug holder and one Cat holder).

The inconvenients from the Ladybug's and Cat's powers (secondary effects)due to their excessive using. Shadybug and Claw Noire cause their own deterioration in their bodies by using their power for the evil.

The morale about the hope in dark and sad moments (Thanks, Hesperia.)

The parallel world (ShadyClaw/Hesperia's world) is a dystopian world ruled by the Supreme

Hesperia's, Shadybug's and Claw Noir's backstories

What I liked:

The Hesperia opening in the intro (that was WTF but that was fun)

The coming of Shadybug and Claw Noire, their odd relationships

The Claw Noir's lines and moments

The Kamiko (good alternate name to Akuma)

The akumatization forms: Chat Céleste (Cat Noir) and Ubiquity (first Alya and later Ladybug)

Ladyfly (Marinette with Ladybug + Butterfly unification)

The travels across multiple parallel worlds (Hi, Scarabella and Kitty Noire. Hi, Mister Bug and Ladynoire.)

The concept of Re-Verse (the idea of what would Marinette and Adrien have looked like if theirs lives had been different from the Canon)

The thing how Monarch has failed (again) to take the Ladybug and Cat Miraculouses when he travelled across parallel worlds.

What I disliked:

The lack of end post-credits scene: I would like to see what happens in the Hesperia's world after the battle (interractions between the reformed Shabybug and Claw Noire, Hesperia, Alya ans Nino about reconciliation ans reorganisation of the Resistance against the Supreme).

The absence of other Miraclass counterparts, Luka, Kagami, Félix, Zoé, Chloé and Lila/Cerise (Only Alya, Nino, Max and Markov from the class appear in the episode as parallel counterparts)

The missing full appearance of the Supreme (his/her appearance from the shadow for reveal himself/herself/themself to spectators could make the cliffhanger effect for a sequel).

What I want to know for the future:

The most intriguing point, for me, is: The Supreme (This hidden character I have just mentioned in this post)

Who is the Supreme ? Human or Deity ? Big Brother (1984, George Orwell) ? How do s/he looks like ?

All I've learned about him/her/them is:

The Supreme is an entity/being who rules the Hesperia's homeworld (possibly the Hesperia's entire universe).

S/He is a tyrant, a dictator (worst than Chloé, possibly more machiavelic and charismatic than Cerise, more dangerous than Monarch) on this Earth (or simply Paris).

S/He hates the Love, the Freedom/Liberty, the Justice, the Happiness, positive emotions and particularly the superheroes.

It's him/her/they who is THE overarching antagonist of the Paris Special (even if s/he is only mentioned many times). S/He's so more antagonistical than Monarch.

S/He makes Hesperia and the Resistance from this world (and by extension Ladybug 2 (former Shadybug) and Cat Noir 2/Paw Noir (former Claw Noir)) as Outlaws.

It's him/her/them who given the Ladybug and Cat miraculous to Emo Marinette and Emo Adrien. Ironical and Ridiculous from the Supreme !

S/He is too powerful, too surnatural and too overcheated: s/he has a great control on the Miraculous Ultimate Absolute Power. S/He has implanted a blockage spell on Tikki and Plagg for prevent anyone to summon Gimmi.

ML theory: I'm thinking the Supreme is probably a evil type of Guardian of Miraculouses. A Fallen Guardian (NOT Master Fu NOR Su-Han). S/He has many knowledges about Miraculouses and their using + the Absolute Power.

My personal aggregation on the Paris Special:

I've enjoyed to see the episode. The narrative is excellent. The idea of Multiverse in the Miraculous lore is well found. The various animations from the episode are fun. Miraculous World: Paris, Tales of Shadybug and Claw Noire is a wonderful episode.

Result: 10/10

#miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #ml paris special #miraculous review #ladybug #chat noir #toxinelle #griffe noire #monarch #hesperia #alya cesaire #nino lahiffe #tikki and plagg #kamiko #miraculous world #miraculous world paris #shadybug and claw noir #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #the supreme #ubiquity #betterfly #paw noir #aggregation

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

Regarding how Gabriel still had a magical charm despite destroying it in dearest family, since Natalie and Tomoe got akumatized during the season, twice in the ladders case it's likely that Gabriel and Tomoe used one of those three for Ladybu's Quantum imprint

First off, the Magical Charm Gabriel used looks nothing like the ones Ladybug gave Tomoe in "Pretension".

Second, Nathalie never got a Magical Charm because Mister Bug was the one who de-evilized her, and he doesn't know how to make those.

Finally, Gabriel did get a Magical Charm in "Gabriel Agreste", while the Charm he used looks just like it... but then he destroyed it during "Dearest Family".

Gabriel wasn't actually akumatized in "Illusion", Ladybug didn't even de-evilize him, so he shouldn't have a Magical Charm. All the animators had to do was have Gabriel use Tomoe's Magical Charm as part of his master plan, and there wouldn't be any plotholes in the goddamn season finale.

#immaturity of thomas astruc #iota #miraculous ladybug #miraculous ladybug salt #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #gabriel agreste #hawkmoth #hawk moth #monarch #tomoe tsurugi

[starguardianniom]

The Paris Special irony

I'm gonna be real here people, the Paris Special was flooded with irony.

We basically got to see tons of stuff we wanted to see forever in it alone, many of which are also quite ironic themselves.

Akumatized Ladybug? Check. Well kamikotized or something similar. The purple Hatsune Miku look slayed.

Akumatized Chat Noir that actually sticks and isn't erased from a timeline? Check. Funny how he's still all white like Chat Blanc but also has white angel wings despite wielding the power of destruction, makes me think of Lucifer.

Evil Ladybug and Chat Noir? Check. Shadybug and Claw Noir are the new cool kids. And dang I want to have an entire series/spinoff of just them, heck I want an origin story of their first outting as villains and how they got their miraculouses cause I need answers on how that happened thank you very much.

Good Hawk Moth? Check. Still lousy parent I guess, unless Emodrien actually makes it difficult for him, like he lashes out and refuse to spend anytime with his dad and Gabriel just tries to respect his privacy and boundaries and thinks he might just need some time to grieve maybe, we only have Emodrien's side of the story, but it's probably more complicated than that, I mean if Emodrien is angry that his father seems to have moved on from his mother he might takes it as a personal betrayal and acts out in some misplaced retribution, but I have a feeling he doesn't bother explaining himself to his father like he does with Adrien, though there might still be hope for them now.

Ladybug using the Butterfly Miraculous? Check. Lady Fly is a stupid name cause it sounds she has the Fly miraculous instead of the Butterfly, but at least her outfit is ok.

Seeing the Butterfly miraculous being used to create heroes instead of villains? Check. Ubiquity my beloved.

Goth/emo/punk Marinette and Adrien? Check. And I love them for it.

Reverse love square? Mostly check with Emodrien having a crush on Emonette who has no idea that he knows she exists until the special.

Alternate Universes? Check. I wanna see more of that Mister Bug and Lady Noire universe and that Scarabella and Kitty Noire Universe, I lowkey wished to see an Aspik and Multimouse universe but oh well, at least this probably means that all the heroes and villains probably gets to wield all the different miraculouses across universes.

Emodrien was slowly dying and Good!Gabriel wasn't even aware of it, probably Emodrien didn't bother telling him and just covered it up with his makeup. Check.

Emonette actually knows Emodrien by name and sight unlike Marinette in Origins despite him never going to her school. I really found that funny.

Emonette and Emodrien having better fashion sense than the main heroes, check. Until they switched to become good guys. Still pulled a bit more effort.

Everyone else in the other universe have different designs, check. And thank god for it, they all look better than the ones we've seen in the show.

Nooroo actually being happy and treated well? Check, judging by the Gabriel opening.

PV universe actually existing and not just being a movie, check.

Identity reveal that actually sticks, check. For Shadybug and Claw Noir sure but at least it will be a lot less frustrating for them than their counterparts, thank god they'll have a break on that.

Seriously the special delivered so many nice ideas and concepts and also there was tons of stuff we wanted to see forever and we got our wishes and it's also ironic in some ways but like hell I'm gonna complain when we were all so well served.

Not gonna lie but it almost gives me hope for season 6. Almost.

Now I'm just gonna watch the show in the hopes of ever seeing the heroes Shadybug and Claw Noir again (yes I know they changed their names and I don't care it's less confusing to keep calling them their original names rather than their new names, like Shadybug, we all know you wanted to be more like Ladybug, but you didn't need to take her name when you almost copied her looks, which was also a downgrade for you sweetie).

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[princess-of-the-corner]

Ok, after learning about Adrien getting shafted in the finale for Bug Noire to exist I thought of an alternative way that fight could go to fit both Adrien and Bug Noire in, and with some tweaks I think that it could partially work for how things go in PB au:

So my idea is that the finale fight goes pretty much like Chat Blanc. Ladynoir confront Monarch in the Agreste manor, the 2 v 1 eventually makes it to the evil lair, Adrichat sees Emilie and gets overwhelmed by his emotions.

Monarch sends an Akuma at him, this time without punting his own kid halfway across the city, but before Chat Blanc 2: Electric Boogaloo can get started, Adrien manages to rip off the Black Cat Miraculous and yeet it at Ladybug. The Akuma still gets to him, entering his jacket or phone or something, and Bug Noire unifies.

Bug Noire keeps Monarch too preoccupied to fully Akumatize Adrien, so the fight stays 1 v 1 for a bit, until Monarch is able to use Adrien fully as a hostage to get both the Black Cat and Ladybug Miraculous from Bug Noire

Gabriel makes his Wish, and it's made clear in the epilogue that the whole world has been rewritten so everyone, Marinette included, genuinely think he's the hero who finally stopped Monarch, but it ends on Adrienette feeling like something isn't quite right...

Now, to tweak this for PB, I had the idea of Marinette getting between the Akuma and Chat to prevent Chat Blanc, and her giving him the Ladybug Earrings so we get Monarch vs ...Mister Noir I guess?

Instead of using Marinette as a hostage, Monarch is the one to knock part of the ceiling onto Emilie's coffin (why the fuck did they have Maribug do that in cannon???) to distract Mister Noir.

Monarch tries to take the Miraculous while Mister Noir is keeping Emilie from being crushed, but Adrien is able to summon Gimmi before he can to wish for it to be impossible for Gabriel to ever use another Miraculous, which has the Equivalent Exchange side affects of making Adrien, Marinette, and their allies unable to any Miraculous ever again as well.

((Something which could also help Marinette realize Chloe's had character development bc she can't use any Miraculous either, so the cosmic energy of the universe or whatever felt Chloe was still her ally despite everything that happened with the both of them))

Idk if this helps or works, but it's the only ideas I've got

Fair idea!

#princess bee

[kittkattys]

Hi I love how you've given Adrien a cane in your Mister Bug au! Have you played around with the idea of incorporating that into his superhero persona too?

I'm glad you liked it! I still don't understand why they discarded this idea in the final version, it's such a good concept </3

I don't have many sketches (oddly enough lol) but yes, I have some ideas! Firstly, I thought a little about how I could represent his disability even with the magical suit, so I thought about keeping Adrien's mannerisms and creating a unique style of movement for him, like him using his yo-yo more constantly and having more advantage when moving in a more "abstract" way in the air, as he tries to imitate what he sees in superhero movies and comics, than on the ground that he has to have a little more concrete fighting skills. He also has the ability to climb walls (I refuse to believe that this is not a canon power) which help him move around the city and give him an advantage over giant akumatized enemies, I think my inspirations from Spider-Man are a bit clear xd

I've also thought about replacing the fencing classes that canon Adrien takes with something related to gymnastics (taking into account the logic of the sport being related to the weapons they have) so that my first idea makes more sense, but I'm still just thinking about it 🤔

It's not exactly Adrien as Mister Bug but *random anatomy training I did a while ago that maybe illustrates what I mean*

#I love imagining things like this but I never end up drawing it due to lack of time or laziness 😭 #these are such precious little details :))))) #but I'm gonna draw Bug more I promise (<- blatant lie) #adrien agreste #mister bug #reverse au #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #ask box

[crocojagged]

I'm compiling a list of all the sides that have been suggested on the niche side poll. Some I still do not know the common name for so I made them up:

Ladyspik (Ladybug/Aspik)

Adrimouse (Adrien/Multimouse)

Misternoire (Mister bug/Ladynoire)

Adrinoire (Adrien/Ladynoire)

Marinoir (Marino/Chat Noir)

BananaBiker (Banana Noir/Biker Bug)

Multiwalker (Multimouse/Cat Walker)

Mariblanc (Marinette/Chat Blanc)

Marinana (Marino/Banana Noir)

PrincessBlanc (Akumatized!Marinette/Chat Blanc)

MissBlanc (Akumatized!Ladybug/Chat Blanc)

Ryumouse (I don't know what this one is tbh sorry)

YMMV on whether these constitute unique sides and/or dynamics or not

#miraculous ladybug

[miraculermarinette]

I kinda liked Adrien more when he was misterbug more than when he was chat noir, mabye it's cause he actually did some stuff as mister bug

(despite not being able to do it as good at Mari atleast he TRIED to be a good hero, As chat noir he doesn't even care lol)

Yeah I mean he atleast had some use in the show for his lucky charm and de-akumatization and all even if Marinette had to make all the plans.

Right now, neither does he help much but on top of that becomes more of a liability.

#ml salt #thanks for the ask #anon #adrien salt #chat noir salt #anti adrien #anti adrien agreste #adrien stans dni

[fragileizywriting]

sharks and sugar but it's an akuma that hits people without people's knowledge and splits them into many "parts". lady blanche is terrorizing the city with how much she cries and cries and cries. mister bug saves a confused and restless marinette from the flood, who is begging for him to listen.

"that's not your lady noire!" she cries out, hugging her backpack close.

"of course it isn't. she's been akumatized."

he doesn't understand. she can't make him understand. there's no way for him to understand.

#speakizys #sharks and sugar

[missallanea-archive]

I was thinking about it, and I find it particularly interesting that in both of Nathalie's "magical" ( for lack of a better term ) forms that she takes where we can actually see it, her hair is short. Even Catalyst, while not showing any hair, does give a similar silhoutte to her short hair 'variants.'

We know through just general evidence that the Miraculous ( and, by extension, akumatizations ) adapt their appearances to their holders. That's why the ladybug suit looks different on Ladybug, Mister Bug, and Scarabella. It changes to best suit the person holding it.

With that in mind, I've come to an interesting conclusion about Nathalie: she wants short hair.

So why keep her hair long enough to put up in a bun every day? She's a no-nonsense kind of a woman, it stands to reason that if she desperately wants to change something -- so much so that her subconcious will remove her long hair should it have an opportunity -- that she would just... cut her hair off, right?

Well.

There's one reason I can think that she might keep her hair long.

I think, in a way, she's emulating her friend. Holding on to a piece of her that is completely within her control. Every other aspect of Emilie is so controlled by Gabriel: her image, her things, her fucking body. Even the few videos that she has of Emilie were meant to be destroyed. This is something to hold onto her.

Something that cannot be taken away from her.

#❮ nathalie sancoeur / headcanon ❯ ━━ ❝ villainy was nothing new to her . #/ idk i'm probably just being gay on main again #/ but i do find it remarkably interesting that nat seems to want short hair #/ and originally i was like ''maybe it's something to do with gabriel'' #/ but this feels more... right? to me?? #/ whatever i'm an equal opportunity gabenat and emnat shipper uwu #tw long post #/ anyway this has been another edition of ''missa thinks too much about details that mean nothing'' uwu

[gale-gentlepenguin]

ML Miraculous User Costume Ratings

(This Rating is Purely based on looks not powers. Thanks to @officialfanbug we had a general idea of what we were looking for.)

Aesthetically pleasing

Related to the Kwami animal

Interesting design

Good colors

(No potion forms)

Miraculous users only (And no akumatized miraculous, mainly cause its just a changed color scheme, they will get covered in akuma)

So Lets start off with

Top Tier (S): Carapace, Mayura, Roosterbold

Solid (A): Scarabella, Queen Bee, Rena Rouge (Furtive), Jade Turtle, Bunny Noir, Pegasus, Chat noir

Decent (B): Ladybee, (Lucky form Ladybug), Vesperia, Viperion, Multimouse, Multinoir,

Inoffensive (C): Flairmidable, Chat Walker, Dragonbug, Mister Bug, (Base) Ladybug, King Monkey, Polymouse, Bunnyx, Multifox,

Lame (D): Eagle, Aspik, Monarch, Pegabug, Ryuuko, Canikid, (Canibunny girl), Multibug

(Didnt even try/ Who were they designing for) (E): Lady Noir, Purple Tigress

Trash (F): Caprikid, Hawkmoth, Pigella, Minotaurox, Miss Hound, Snake noir, Pennybug

Dumpster fire (Below F): Shadowmoth, Shadow noir, Miraculizer

#ml #miraculous tier list #until I make the official chart #miraculous ladybug #ml costumes

[kisilinramblings]

Hi. I hope you don't mind me asking a question here. First thing first I haven't watched much of s5, mainly because I'm still having burn out from the whole episodes in s4. But I have seen people posting pictures of Adrien using cataclysm very... Murder happy, which is something that I don't think he ever do before, unless I forgot any episode.

Before, whenever he's frustrated his object on leashing out is never an Akumatized person, it's always be an inanimate object (tree/ads box, chimney and billboard) but in this season, he seems to be losing his patient more and more, the scene in Jubilation is the freshest I can remember how close he was in cataclysmed Dark Owl and apparently he almost did that too in Derision.

My question is, is there a reason behind this behavior? I mean, it feels like out of character of him to do that considering Adrien is always patient and empatetic kind of person that I'm sure if people just telling me without showing the clip of the episodes, I would think theyre joking. Its always sad to see such kind and sweet character to turn like this.

I'm sorry if I'm rambling too much!

Hey! No worries! I'm sure you are not the only one finding this weird. You are right in saying than before S5, it wasn't like Chat to willingly use Cataclysm on an individual. Aside of Sentis or him being controlled by an akumatized power, or as seen during Chat Blanc, the NY special, Destruction which fall under that category of being accidental.

So what indeed did change or happened to him to the point he can be triggered and having his emotions taking over the best of him?

Tbh, I myself even is sure if I have the correct theory there.

The common element in both Jubilation and Derision is Chat Noir violently reacting when someone plays with the emotions of a person he deeply cares about.

After all, Darker Owl played with both LB and CN's emotions with the power of the Pig and trapping them in a dream fantasy where they were in love, married and had a family while Kim played with Marinette's emotions to the point the impact of that cruel prank have deeply traumatized her.

The dialog at the end of Derision between Marinette and Adrien seems to indicate Marinette isn't the only one with trauma that needs to be healed.

Adrien : I'm scared too. It's new for me, so I don't know how to react. I'm scared of doing something wrong, of hurting you, of someone else hurting you. I'm especially scared of losing you. But we are together and we will do everything to help each other out. Like that, you and me, maybe we will become less scared?

Part of his line refers to what Ladybug told him earlier.

CN : Me too, I got carried away by my emotions. LB : Don't worry. It can happen to anyone. That's why we are a team. There is always one of us to help the other out.

And even though he didn't use Cataclysm, Mister Bug's reaction at the end of Passion was too filled with rage.

Mister Bug : Forcing such a fragile person to carry out his twisted plans. Monarch is a monster! He'll pay for this...

Not only that, but Adrien was tempted to use the Wish to heal Nathalie. Something associated to the Bad Guy side.

So, yeah, that is my best guess right now. Adrien has trauma too, but we have yet to see what exactly caused it but we can suppose it is most probably in link to his mother's demise.

So, Adrien can be violent in reaction when seeing the people he deeply cares are being hurt.

EDIT : I've forgot! Chat Noir did almost Cataclysm Hawkmoth during Chat Blanc timeline after learning the truth but stopped, wanting answers.

#miraculous ladybug #ml season 5 #ml s5 spoilers #ml spoilers #ml jubilation #ml passion #ml derision #ml s5ep4 #ml s5ep7 #ml s5ep14 #adrien agreste

[trainsinanime]

Here's a random thought, a bit of speculation I have for the rest of season 5 of Miraculous Ladybug. If you're one of the people who read the leaks, please do not reply! Not at all, not a hint, not an emoji, nothing.

Right. So season 5 has been where the show started to develop themes. We keep coming back to the idea that an era is ending; every other episode is talking about the end of the school year, Gabriel is dying, Adrinette is happening, all that fun stuff. And presumably the finale will be a celebration of this end of an era, probably with the big dance that has been teased.

Another thing that has been teased: We sure keep getting closer to Marinette being akumatized, don't we? There have been so many close calls and they keep coming closer and closer together. Part of me feels like it's inevitable now.

I know the writers said on Twitter that it can't happen because then they couldn't purify the Akuma, but let's be real, they were probably lying. At this point we have both Mister Bug and Scarabella as possible options to do all the end-of-episode housekeeping, and we can certainly imagine some scenario where someone traps the Akuma until Marinette can do the purification herself.

We've also recently had way more episodes that focus on Adrien. An Adrien-led episode where he saves Marinette would have felt revolutionary back in season 3, but now we're at a point where it would fit right in.

And finally, there's always the option of a what-if episode like Chat Blanc, Oblivio or Ephemeral.

They've been teasing "Marinette can get akumatised, and it would be really bad" for so long now that I would be kind of surprised if it didn't happen. Of course, my track record with predictions is absolutely terrible, and this may be yet another example of that. But personally, I'm hoping it does happen; that would certainly be a very exciting episode.

#miraculous ladybug

[princess-of-the-corner]

Me: *makes "Side Character Marinette AU", where she is spared stress related to being Ladybug, Guardian, etc.*

Also Me: * effectively "role-swap" Marinette and Juleka (most usually Akumatized member of Miracuclass in Canon) (Main Heroes are Mister Bug and Cat!Juleka), so I can use "Side Character Marinette AU" as "testing field for Akumanettes"*

So is Mari Ladybug in this or are we going for a different Ladybug because I'm down to vote for LB!Juleka