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forevercloudnine · 2 years
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re: the joker post you reblogged, I always wondered personally if people's unwillingness to forgive him compared to other rogues is cuz he reminds people of their abusers (with his relationship with harley) I tend to find fandom is often less forgiving of behaviour that hits closer to home when compared to potentially worse but more abstract stuff. Like a character who hits their wife will get more hate than one who blows up a planet, bc the latter feels more fictional? Just my theory though
(The Joker post in question)
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I think you're definitely right about that. Plenty of people hate Joker specifically because of Harley Quinn (or, predating Harley's conception as a character, because of his mutilation of Barbara Gordon in The Killing Joke-- which, though not considered sexual assault by the author Alan Moore, was definitely sexualized in the art by Brian Bolland). And honestly, given the way he's written as an exaggerated parody of an abusive misogynistic boyfriend in Harley's various solo series, it's completely understandable for anyone who reads those comics to want to never see him ever again, because his appearances are not fun to read!
But I think it's also true that people who are mainly fans of other male villains use him to make their own faves look better in comparison. Though it is funny to constantly see posts in character tags that are like "[insert supervillain here] hates Joker and could totally beat him up," because invariably the supervillain has a) been depicted as friendly with Joker in canon, and b) HAVE fought Joker but lost embarrassingly.
#joker#harley quinn#panel is from 'prelude to the wedding: harley quinn vs. joker'#which is just the premier example of how joker is portrayed by harley writers#because in canon an HOUR after he has this convo with harley. he goes and has the church fight with bruce and selina#and the difference in characterization between these two appearances is absolutely staggering#he is genuinely unrecognizable as the same character#anyway there is definitely something to be said about how btas has permanently added 'abusive boyfriend' to joker's character#and that batman media has sooooooo much trouble with figuring out how much that has to factor into any given portrayal#i think the most transparent struggle with that is on The Harley Quinn Show#where joker goes from being an abusive misogynistic creep to Harley's Funny Ex in-between seasons#to the point that he hooks up with some civilian nurse with two young children and it's treated sweet and romantic#instead of like. incredibly worrying. because he's a noted abuser with a terrible track record around women#but he's switched from being the antagonist of harley's Feminist Character Arc to a comedic side character so whatever it's fine now#so many male writers get to write harley quinn content and i feel like they almost never understand anything about domestic abuse#so they just write the most exaggerated parody of it possible and then have harley hit him with a hammer#and then feel like they've made her a strong female character#which like. i guess makes sense as an evolution for a female character who was originally written as side joke eye candy#NOT that i don't enjoy a lot of the stories paul dini has written about her#but like. there's a lot of contextual baggage in her character from day one
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sphireath-wisp · 6 months
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Can you do Blue Lock Rin x female reader x Sae? The reader is a very sweet and kind girl. The Itoshi brothers are fighting for her love.
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Sypnosis: The ask above!!
Warnings: Love angle, unclear ending, all characters are aged-up, mild cursing, messy interchanging grammar
Notes: You didn't exactly specify how you wanted the story to end. Neither did you say whether you wanted Rin to get with the reader or Sae to get with the reader? Thus, I made it more of a big situationship. (I didn't have much to work with and I wanted to stay in bounds instead of straying further from your ask and making my own story)
Featuring: Rin x F! Reader x Sae
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"So, this is what you were up to, Sae?" Sae clicks his tongue at the sound of Rin's voice. He had hoped that dragging you alone with him to a booth near the back of the club would have let Rin off of his trail. This suffocating crowd wasn't doing him any good, especially when they failed to slow Rin down.
Rin, on the other hand, is irritated beyond words. Even with the bright lights in the club, he can still see the bright red flush of your cheeks and bare skin. You're wasted, drunk beyond comprehension and he can tell from your slurred speech.
You're on Sae's lap, forehead resting against his shoulder as his hands pretend to hold up upright - both Sae and Rin know Sae wants to hold you.
The sight alone causes Rin's hands to ball into fists. The blood in his veins feels like they've reached a boiling point, his gut churns uncomfortably when you give him that glazed-eye look. He's never wanted to be his brother so bad.
You feel a hand wrap around your wrist. "Come on, (Name). We're leaving." Rin declares.
"You're leaving. (Name)'s with me." Sae speaks up, hand holding your other wrist when Rin tugs you off of his lap. Sae's frown visibly deepens. He doesn't like you leaving - he realizes.
You stumble between the two. The world is spinning when you stand up and the ground looks distorted. The alcohol has its own strong effect on you, you can barely stand up and, unluckily or not, they take notice.
Rin takes action first, tugging you in his direction and allowing you to rest your head on his chest. His body has a mind of its own when his hand snakes around your waist. Sae, however, just had to intervene and pull you away from him just when he was getting comfortable.
"Fucking moron, can't you see she's wasted? I'm not leaving her like this. I'm bringing her home." Rin hasn't let go of your wrist.
"I know what I'm doing, Rin. Go home," Sae's words are firm, eyes narrowing at Rin and earning a glare from him. "Tugging her back and forth like a ragdoll, you don't know how to treat a girl right."
There's an almost deafening silence between you three. You're too disoriented to really hear the snarky comments exchanged except for the loud music blasting through the speakers. Chills shoot up your spine when Rin places his hand on the small of your back. Sae stands his ground and his hand find their space on your shoulder, fingers invasively going under the strap of your top.
"(Name)'s going home with me, Sae."
"You can't decide shit for her."
"What? You wanna ask her yourself?" Rin's tone is mocking, eyes rolling at his older brother. "If you have eyes, you can clearly see that she's drunk."
"She'd still want to stay with me, drunk or not." Sae's eye twitches. "Right, (Name)?"
You blink, dazed from the alcohol. Everything's a blur and you stagger back and forth. If it wasn't for them, you'd probably have fallen down by now.
"...Huh?" you blurt out after a moment.
"(Name)," Rin begins, speaking slowly so you can process things, "Do you want to go home with me or stay with Sae?"
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ineffably-human · 2 years
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I can't get too mad about the Marwa thing. I can understand why it freaks people out, I understand the implications it could have and why instead of being something darkly absurdist, that hits some buttons for people they can't ignore. I can see where it failed, though frankly I haven't seen a single suggestion of an alternative that actually satisfies what this storyline is meant to do. And this storyline is very much meant to do something.
Maybe I was already ready to come out swinging about this because people have just flat out made things up about this character and this situation the whole season. I chew a little more drywall every time I hear a new statement that just never actually happened.
This has gotten very VERY long, please have a cut.
Let's look at pre-the Wedding Wish first:
Nandor did not 'slowly chip away' at Marwa's personality, he made one wish that altered it after she very barely had one to start with.
If this show is good at anything, it's giving us a very strong sense of who a character is over very little time. We can map out a history of Jan just from the photos on her wall. We get a sense of Shanice from her reading of a bottle of medicine and one small monologue about her Mosquito Collector motives. Gail, Meg, Charmaine, The Contessa, Coco, Nandor's wife answering questions by the gazebo with the name I forget, most of these female characters have fewer appearances than Marwa and varying degrees of plot importance but we have at least a half-decent sense of who they are.
But Marwa was the last wife standing after Nandor ruled out everything even slightly objectionable about the others because of how self-destructively insecure and selfish he is. She is never portrayed like a complete person with an inner life to begin with, all the better for him to project this obsession with a perfect past love that almost certainly didn't exist. (Or at least not how Nandor remembers them.) From a Doylist perspective, she could never have shown off more than a hint of who she was/used to be, by design.
The first thing we learn about Marwa is not her scientific space discoveries. The first thing we learn is that while she is first saying her name, Nandor cuts her off and she lets him do it without even blinking. She recites the one fact about her life like she's saying a bio in a playbill. She says she's grateful she found such an intelligent man, for some reason, so she doesn't really understand who she's marrying even if they've been together before. I've heard people observe in later episodes she stands like a Sim - but to me she seemed very flat and robotic in her first appearance.
You guys, learning about this plot I was ready for a person with a personality, I was ready for either wacky poly shenanigans or a whole-ass emotional affair, believe me. Do you know how many songs from Aida I had queued up? And I remember wondering why Marwa didn't feel 'real' to me, not even over-the-top real the way the vampires do. The people saying she was there to be an obstacle to Nandor and Guillermo baffle me, because the moment we meet her, the one thing that's clear to us is Nandor didn't find his great past love. He found a random person. One who is just off the radar enough that she was the last one left. The Baron flat-out refers to her as "the beautiful and charming what's-her-name."
Until the girls' night (which is post-wish), Marwa never exists outside the room Nandor is in. After her brief introduction, she never says anything in that first half of the season that's not about Nandor. There is almost zero difference between that and Go Flip Yourself's litany of "I agree with my husband." Meanwhile Nandor is constantly snapping at her, ignoring her existence, leaving her behind. So she's either a terrible judge of character or will allow fucking anything from this man from the start.
Why yes that is horrible! Pack your bags and escape, etc! But it's not a full, vibrant character who Nandor later whittles down to nothing. Nandor whittled the wives down to Marwa. Because this plot is about his inability to think about other people or have the maturity to be in a true relationship.
The wedding wish, the only one that explicitly makes a long-term change to Marwa's mind, Nandor makes because she voices the first preferences/desires we've heard from her the whole time. At the very least this is new behavior. But Nandor's trying to micromanage flower arrangements on a week of no sleep, not tame a willful person into a submissive doll.
He's a self-obsessed moron so his takeaway when she finally voices her doubts at the wedding is something like "oh shit, she didn't even really want to be with me" - but he's a coward and hey now she does! She even said so! At this big huge wedding he invited everyone to, and that no one believes in! So he doubles down. He has been convincing himself he's in love this whole time, now he's convincing himself it's going awesome with this person he feels basically stuck with.
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Now, as far as post-Wedding Wish is concerned:
"Like all the same things I like," going by the exact phrasing, doesn't have to get rid of what she likes that Nandor is neutral on. It doesn't have to change anything else about her personality or behavior. It doesn't even mean she has to want all the same things he wants, it certainly doesn't mean she has to do the things he does or to robotically repeat that she agrees with him. I was ready for Marwa to take up sword fighting and bossing Guillermo around and teach Nandor how completely fucking insufferable he can be sometimes, but that isn't what happened either. She feels half there because she was always half there.
Yeah, there's a consent issue, and I feel like the show goes out of its way to show there's nothing sexual going on. The one time they talk about having sex, the Dick Wish screws it up. Nandor walks away in disgust from some very half-hearted dancing about their wedding night. Marwa sleeps in a separate bunk bed in the attic. Between the choice of a bedroom for the two of them and a place where he can be away from her completely (and get fucked by guys and watch Guillermo use the bathroom), Nandor chooses the man cave.
We have two episodes with Marwa after the wish and before 'Freddie'. Ironically, they are the most personality and agency she has had the entire time, they are the events people most often cite about how we "got to know her". (What exactly did we get to know?) And she doesn't seem to hate Nandor even secretly, they just are extremely awkward and bored together. She seems genuinely hopeful that Nandor likes the man cave but since she likes privacy just as much now, and she's not liking a marriage he isn't liking, she tricks him and makes it into her own space.
And the specific Freddie wish is that he wants to turn her into "an exact copy" of Freddie in terms of "looks, personality, everything." Freddie then proceeds to introduce himself to Nandor as if he never met him, and treats Guillermo as if he's a stranger. We could speculate Marwa is in there screaming to get out, sure, but...why would we? We are in a Ship of Theseus situation, where every part of her was replaced. There is no reason that she'd still be there. And there wasn't much of her there to start with.
The 'real' Marwa lived hundreds of years ago, we have no idea what she wanted or how she felt about her life, we have no idea how long her life went on before she died. (Or if she's even dead! She could be one of those vampires in Nandor's village at this point!) But she had her life. It already happened. Anything that happened from the moment Nandor resurrected her (which is already kind of a horrifying act, it just wasn't played as one) was already, as AV Club brilliantly put it, an extension of his own selfish desires.
I could say the djinn's version of Marwa was sort of a doll reduced to her most basic traits. I could say as someone resurrected to be nothing more than the object of 'someone's wife', she was freaking delighted to have Nandor's preferences filling up an empty space for her to use as she liked. I could say she's a fake wife the djinn invented as a decoy. Or that she stops existing whenever she leaves the room. Or that the wish just basically re-deaded her and she'd have been fine with that.
Any of those things would have just as much evidence as what people are speculating instead.
--- I get why you can fill in the worst possible thing in the blanks. There's so much to fill in about exactly who Marwa was, exactly what got changed about her, and whether any aspect of her is left. I think they may have left so much ambiguous to make it less uncomfortable, and instead left everyone thinking about the worst possible version of events.
There also aren't a lot of female characters on this show, and no regular female characters of color, and that is absolutely a deficit the show needs to make up for. Because I truly believe they write great female characters when they're actually trying to write them. Having those other examples would have made a plot like this so much less uncomfortable to watch. But Marwa could have never been that representation, because of what this plot is meant to be about. This plot isn't about Nandermo, or even about Nandor's search for romance at all. This is about all of Nandor's worst tendencies, how he's his own worst enemy.
Because this is probably what Nandor has done his entire life. As a human being Nandor was more of a monster than he is as a literal monster. Like I keep saying, he pillaged, he violently took what he wanted and left the rest to burn. We're told in this last episode that he disemboweled tons of civilians for a tapestry. (A tapestry that, in a cut line from the leaked audition script, he didn't even really like much. If that isn't a metaphor for his shiny object syndrome...)
Even if every single marriage he had was someone in love with him who wanted to be with him, he probably did some version of this: was drawn in very suddenly by the parts he liked (or invented in his head), had a very selfish, empty version of a love affair, got annoyed when things were inconvenient or difficult, and then moved on to the next shiny object.
Freddie is Wife 38 with extra steps, compounded by the djinn lamp being a magic pleasure machine - the exact worst thing to give to a warlord used to taking what he wants (and then being praised for it by everyone around him). His feelings about both Marwa and Freddie are very shallow, and also very real to Nandor in the moment and take up a lot of emotional energy. The 'love' for Freddie would have faded and left him feeling just as hollow.
We just saw the vicious cycle of his life in fast motion, in a way that ends in disaster for everyone involved. (Do you think we'd have gotten Guillermo's horrified 'what the hell is wrong with you' if we weren't supposed to be thinking that right there with him?) The difference here is that we see Nandor made a change. He understands something about love, he thinks outside himself. He does what he believes would make Marwa, 'his' Freddie, and Guillermo happiest. This season is about change.
(I want to point out, also: there's no reason Nandor getting physically beaten up would teach him anything. As a warrior, if anything he'd double down. Guillermo's genuine pain and heartbreak in the midst of what he's done is the only thing that would have gotten through to him. And it did. The hard zoom in on "what I did was...wrong" is because we almost never see him admit those things or apologize in the first place, it's meant to both say 'no shit' and emphasize that this is pretty huge for him.)
Again, I'm not saying this is okay. None of this is okay. It's not supposed to be. It's played for absurdity but it isn't played as meaningless, when the show has been playing much more horrible things for laughs for years.
I'm just saying that a lot of what people are bothered by doesn't really support the facts. It takes everything to its worst conclusion and then acts like that's both supposed to be our takeaway, and we're supposed to find it just great. Of course we aren't. If we were, Nandor would have packed Marwa's bags and made a Freddie clone. He and Guillermo would have gotten into a competition about who could date Freddie the best that would be about their own sexual tension or something. There are many many ways to turn this into something feel-good, and they chose not to.
(Not least because any of those ideas would have left out a lot of what this episode says about narcissism, codependency, Guillermo's own concealing of his identity, the way love means seeing a complete person who exists outside yourself...)
And many, many different staff writers wrote this storyline across the entire season. A number of which were women, several of which were women of color. One of those women of color is Middle Eastern and another is the co-showrunner. Of course women can write misogyny and people of color can write racism, but that also means there's no monolith of identity where the right people with the right identity will feel the right way about something at any given time, and there's only one response to have. The fuckup here, however large or small you believe it to be, did not happen because of two white guys writing this one script secretively in the dead of night.
So, I don't know. That's me. Please consider what was actually being written here, and what we actually saw, and not your headcanons or your subverted expectations. Or the things that built up in your head during the months of leaked material. And if it still makes you too uncomfortable to keep watching, then don't! But I don't think it was thoughtless or pointless, at all. Plus, literally any character can come back in this show, and they often do. So who knows what we'll see as a result of this.
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my-mt-heart · 1 month
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Here we go again...
I'm going to echo what I said on Twitter about "The Big Three" post on my blog since this is where I feel safe speaking up. I'm very sorry I had to direct it at Valhalla who have been Melissa/Carol/Caryl fans' biggest ally on social media up to this point, even using #TheBookofCarol tag to let us know they see her as the main protagonist that she is. I'm also very sorry that as of today, we've reached the two-year mark since the news of the original spinoff's cancelation and this fandom still has to fight for the respect that they and Melissa herself have more than earned. Again, this is why we need a new showrunner with the intuition and authority to change the messaging on the show and on SM, so that Caryl fans not only feel safe, but also eager to watch, pay for, and engage with new material.
I saw that Valhalla acknowledged Carylers' complaints on their post. I wasn't expecting that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any other official account has ever put the needs of the fans over their own need to save face, so I respect and appreciate that. The comments were filling up with voices from other parts of the fandom trying to give Valhalla an out, but it's easy for them to ignore or in some instances mock the issue because their favorite character is represented and they get the satisfaction of a character they hate being left out and her fans being upset about it. It's easy and probably fun for them to accuse us of throwing tantrums, invalidating a very real source of pain for many of us.
There is a long history of fandom bullying and ageism directed at Melissa/Carol/Caryl and their fans to the point of many people, including Melissa herself, having to leave SM. The other factions claim we're a minority, but in reality we're just less active in public spaces because we're made to feel like we don't belong. Caryl fans are very much like the characters in that way and unfortunately other fans and other official accounts take advantage of that.
What happened exactly two years ago has broken our trust and our spirits even more. A lot of us are teetering on the edge of leaving because we're tired of being gaslit and strung along. We're vulnerable and we have triggers. In order to keep engaging with TWD content, we have to feel like its worth it, which means we need to know that the show and everyone affiliated are meeting our needs: that Melissa and Carol are acknowledged for the HUGE impact they've had in the story since S1, not how much they are marketed, and that Caryl is treated like a valid ship.
We need strong leadership for that. Valhalla is a female-led account, so they have the authority to tackle the issues that the actresses and their female fanbases face. A female showrunner would help with that as well. TBOC is fast-approaching. The promotion should focus on hyping the core audience of that show, not alienating them further. We deserve so much better. Melissa deserves so much better. Caryl deserver so much better.
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sunny12th · 1 month
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2, 6, 8, 15 for dany!!!
Under the cut <3 ty for asking
2. Favorite canon thing about this character?
Dany is never what anyone expects her to be, narratively and from a meta standpoint. We don't expect a female character, far removed from the main point of magic in the story, to find her own magic and be a destined hero. We don't expect a child rape victim to have a lusty, consensual, and fun romance with a side character. She was not expected to survive khal drogo or the red waste. She was not expected to pivot at every turn and find a third way. And we didn't expect the very real consequences to come from her actions in slavers bay. No one expected the wide spread consequences across Essos from her actions - a slave revolution brewing. No one thought we'd get to see what might happen when a revolutionary character actually commits to the revolution and then has to handle the fallout. That feels so rare to me. She exists so far removed from what the average fantasy reader, or reader in general, would expect to find in a book and I think the fandom takes this for granted sometimes.
6. What's something you have in common with this character?
Not going into detail but- isolated childhoods with not very good siblings, messy family history, and a whole heaping of desperation. Looking back, it's pretty blatant why I latched onto Dany when I first read agot back when I was like 14/15. Projection and cathartic healing babeyyyy 🔛🔝
8. What's something the fandom does when it comes to this character that you despise?
In another ask, I said that I hate when the fandom uses Dany's family/ancestry as evidence for her impending madness. Along with that, I also really dislike the notion that Dany should have not acted at all to free the Unsullied and other slaves because she didn't have a clear enough plan to handle the fallout. This idea that, because she couldn't do this Perfectly she should not have done it at all. For obvious reasons lmao. One reason I like Dany is that doing nothing goes against her character and usually leads to negative consequences for her, as in Meereen.
15. What's your favorite ship for this character? (Doesn't matter if it's canon or not.)
I'm not overly invested in any of Dany's ships tbh. That being said, my fave is Dany/Jhogo. I am probably one of 3 people that like them. grrm is an excellent writer when he cares to be one but he didn't care for the Dothraki. Why are none of the bloodriders allowed any interiority or ... personalities. Or anything that might let them feel like distinct characters that warrant the level of proximity and relevance they have to Dany. 'blood of my blood' - was this supposed to mean something? Because it couldve meant a lot! especially to a character like Dany, with no blood relations and desperate for family. Besides Jorah, the bloodriders and her dothraki handmaids are the characters she spends the most time with since book one.
Anyways, Jhogo has a bit more personality than the other bloodriders, he's 'of an age' with Dany (all the bloodriders are around the same age), and it just has so much potential. The royal guard/royalty trope but outside the culture we usually see this is. And!!! They've seen each other literally at their lowest. They survived the red waste together, sacked cities together. Jhogo is held hostage for her right now, along with Daario. I can't pull up the quote right now but Barristan remarks that Jhogo is indispensable to Dany, or smth like that, in his POV chapter. They grew up together, learned how to be strong together. If grrm had cared, they couldve been a top tier romance. It wouldn't have felt rushed or like they were pulled together through fate. Could've just been two lost kids growing into love. But this wouldve required grrm putting effort into the Dothraki characters and he's made it abundantly clear that he doesn't feel the need to do this.
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aprillikesthings · 2 months
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can I finish this before I gotta get ready and leave for the Maundy Thursday service let's find out lol
(Edit: Nope.)
THREE MORE EPISODES LEFT
*cries*
s5 ep11 Failsafe
someone hold me
I have to actively suppress the urge to read the synopses of the episodes at this point
oh also lol this is just funny to me, I saw a post Elsewhere Online where someone watched all of spop the first time and they HATED the dumb names everyone has, and I think they mentioned Castaspella specifically.
And like FIFTY PEOPLE responded with "dude they had to use the original names from the 1980's series" and I was the only one there old enough to have watched the original series and I had to point out: the original series was made to sell toys. The vast majority of cartoons in 1985 were only made to sell toys. They gave everyone those dumbass names because it was easy for kids to remember and beg for the toys."
That's also why all the female characters in the original series have the exact same body type. Yeah the body shape itself was due to 1980's-era sexism, but also? It was so much cheaper to animate the show AND make the toys that way!
But also, it's hella ironic to me that the 2018 show has so little official merch!
And now, back to crying over cartoon lesbians:
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good question
ugh I hate her
Shadow Weaver: "While you were traipsing around in space,"
OH MY GOD they were saving a few people's LIVES and it was kind of IMPORTANT but WHATEVER
"--some of us have been working to stop the Heart of Etheria from falling into Prime's hands. And we discovered the same thing you did. Rumors of a Failsafe that will break the restraints the First Ones built and set the stolen magic free." Glimmer: "Are you kidding? After everything that happened last time, you're still going after the Heart of Etheria? And you're helping her?" Castaspella: "We're trying to free the magic for all of Etheria so we can be strong enough to fight Prime. I'm doing this for your father and for you. Shadow Weaver is the lesser of two evils."
I love that she says this right in front of Shadow Weaver. Like "girl I hate her too"
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okay ngl I have mixed feelings about this one because unfortunately she's not entirely wrong here but also, shut the fuck up
(something something people are responsible for their own actions but also she wouldn't have done all that godawful shit if Shadow Weaver hadn't been such a shitty parent)
but yeah Catra gets up like she's about to fucking throw some hands and Adora's like It's okay bb
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;_;
but also they do need the information Shadow Weaver and Castaspella have
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so it turns out Mystacor was built on top of a First Ones' citadel? huh
Castaspella: "Beneath Mystacor, there are many secret tunnels and rooms, forgotten and sealed off. No one has been able to access them in centuries, but there are whispers of what they contain." Shadow Weaver: "An artifact known as the Crystal of Arxia, hidden there by a group of traitorous First Ones." Castaspella: "You said I could do it!"
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lol they bicker like old marrieds
Adora: "If you figured it out on your own, why come back here? Why do you need us at all?" Shadow Weaver: "Because Mystacor is controlled by Micah, who, you may recall, is controlled by Horde Prime."
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they've been TRYING
"If he seizes the Heart, it will all be over."
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Stop toUCHING HER
oh god Adora turns around to ask Catra to help out--and she's gone
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YOU'RE THE REASON SHE'S FUCKING "SULKING" and you fucking know it, why are abusers always so god damned surprised to find out their kids don't want to be anywhere near them
(I mean I know why, they think they should be able to control you forever)
aaahahaha Adora's just like Nah I'mma go look for her tho
anyway roll intro!
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omg look at Netossa and Spinny on the bottom left awwwww
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she looks so sad
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well okay sad and angry
their conversation here is so good, because Catra's fully aware of why Adora's doing this, but is really struggling to push past how much she (justifiably!) hates Shadow Weaver and hates being around her
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I actually do kinda wish I'd kept a list of all the times Adora does the self-sacrificial thing, separated into "someone asked her to do it" vs "nobody asked her to do it" lol
BUT ADORA EXPRESSES A NEED oh nice that's progress
Adora: "Hey, she can't do anything to us anymore. Please, come. We--I-could really use your help."
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two things I really love about this: One, she doesn't say that she doesn't like Adora, just that it's not the reason she's going. Two, I feel like Adora knows damn well Catra's not being 100% honest here.
Like, to some extent Catra's saying this as a way of attempting to protect herself a little. She's taking baby steps towards vulnerability, and it's terrifying! And I think Adora can see that and is fine with it--not JUST because she's like "any crumbs are better than nothing" but ALSO because she doesn't want to push Catra.
Because yeah, if there was any actual doubt that Catra does like Adora--
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WELL.
Entrapta was able to get Spinerella's chip out but says it had started fusing with her nervous system and they're running out of time to safely un-chip everyone.
But she's been digging around the network that connects all the chips to Prime, hoping to figure out how to disconnect everyone at once, and Bow gives her a little encouragement, it's really sweet.
OKAY so everyone who can, teleports to Mystacor with Melog making them invisible. (Apparently Catra doesn't get motion sick from it anymore which is nice lol)
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I love the way they animated them being invisible
oh GOD okay
Catra turns around and says "looks like there's no sorcerers here" while, unfortunately, a sorcerer walks into the room. Shadow Weaver grabs Catra and puts her hand over her mouth to keep her quiet, and Catra (understandably!! but unfortunately!!) jerks away in fury and yells
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And her fury causes Melog to drop the invisibility
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And now the chipped sorcerer knows they're all there
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they manage to duck the attack but Adora goes to transform into She-Ra--and can't do it
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she had this issue last episode aaaugh it's not from being near Shadow Weaver she wasn't there
okay but also Adora runs behind a pillar to hide from an attack with Catra and it's cute
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girl help why is this giving me so many emotions
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y'know it's funny how often I've bumped into posts of people who are confused as to why Adora starts trusting Catra again so quickly, and I frequently wonder if they forget all the childhood flashback scenes of these two. To varying extents they both spent their entire childhoods seeing the other as their only consistent source of comfort and (something resembling) safety, and with some notable exceptions Adora's spent the last four seasons (which was like three or four years) visibly holding out hope that one day she could trust Catra again. This despite the fact that she now has other sources of safety and comfort and love!!! Being with Glimmer and Bow and everyone else was healing, sure; but it never erased her grief over losing Catra. She always, always held out the tiniest flame of hope that Catra would change sides.
And Catra basically tried lighting her own grief on fire (metaphorically and kinda literally) over and over and it just didn't go away, and I feel like when she saved Glimmer and apologized to Adora she had sort of come to terms with the fact that her grief over losing Adora couldn't be burned away, but of course by then she figured she'd fucked up so bad Adora would never forgive her or trust her again. And rather than take it out on other people or suffer any longer she was willing to just die, instead. She really did think that sending Glimmer to Adora was going to be her last act, and she wanted Adora to know she was sorry before she fucking DIED. And I don't think her saving Glimmer was consciously meant to be proof that she meant her apology, but it was. And that's part of why Adora trusts her again.
The fact is, even after everything that happened, both of them had a hole in their hearts shaped like the other. ;_;
And that's why Adora runs and hides behind the same pillar as Catra. (I mean yes, it was also closer, but that's not tHE POINT)
Anyway, this is all why, as I previously noted, Adora's not being pushy. That failed on her, spectacularly; the couple of times she tried it. Asking Catra to come along on this mission is the closest she's come. And even then, it wasn't "you're a good person deep down and you should change sides because I think I know you better than you know yourself," It was "please do this for me, because I need your help." And Catra is fully aware of how hard that is for Adora.
And these two still have a lot to work out post-canon (like, Catra has still got to deal with her need to not just be seen as Adora's sidekick/shadow, and lbh right now some of the rebellion is like "we're only putting up with you for Adora's sake" as if Catra was Yoko Ono) but that's part of why I'm writing a fic lolol
I have so many feelingssss on a related note I spent like fifteen solid minutes last night in bed having taken an edible and listening to my playlist and staring at this gifset lolol
ANYWAY Castaspella knocks out the chipped dude and they run for it
AAAND lol I gotta get ready to go to church. There's still 17:30 left on this episode. Pfft.
BACK FROM CHURCH I washed someone's feet, they washed mine, they stripped the altar, I go back at one or two in the morning for the overnight vigil
In the meantime: gonna finish this episode
(what is my life sometimes)
Entrapta plans to find a bunch of clones so she can figure out how their signals to Horde Prime work. Swift Wind is like Ugh, fine, I'll go with you, someone's gotta save your ass
Entrapta: "Thanks, bird horse!"
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lol how many times have they had that convo
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A family can be a sorcerer and her evil ex, a girl and a boy, two traumatized lesbians, and a cat
But also it looks like something out of an episode of Scooby Doo
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Shadow Weaver opens a magic door
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ngl that's PRETTY. like it's obviously about the Heart of Etheria but wow!
(and there's a dinosaur???)
Adora notices how stressed out Catra is and says "It'll be okay...Trust me." ;_;
Shadow Weaver: "There's no time to waste!"
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"...disturbance."
The disturbance was your fault, dumbass. I am reminded of all the times my dad got angry at us for being afraid of him. And would hit us. For being. Afraid of him. Because y'know. That's how you stop a kid from being afraid of you. By hitting them.
In any case Shadow Weaver is still trying to get between them and separate them and I just really need this bitch to stop.
(Yes yes I remember she dies later)
Castaspella: "We're on the right path. The Crystal of Arxia was rumored to be the key to reaching deep magic within Etheria."
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"But those who hungered for more power have long sought other ways to obtain the deep magic...with disastrous results."
HIT THE IMAGE LIMIT lemme reblog
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hopper-wheeler · 2 years
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you know, i've been thinking a lot about mileven and gender roles and mike proclaiming el is superman and he's lois lane has only made me more obsessed with this aspect of their relationship.
they've always been so unlike other relationships in media in so many different ways but i think it's really worth noting just how much they subvert gender stereotypes, in particular the traditional superhero x love interest gender dynamic, and how that might be behind some of the hate they get.
there's something to be said about how el is the superhero here and much like clark kent she has a love interest she's incredibly committed to and in love with. a love interest who represents an ordinary, happy life and brings out the more human, vulnerable side of her. someone whose love and support drives her throughout the story by giving her the strength and will to fight another day. only, unlike clark kent, el faces an infinite amount of criticism for this. her adoration of mike is seen as something that makes her silly and weak; her need for reassurance from someone she loves is seen as an unhealthy dependency she must be cured of. antis constantly say el isn't ready for a relationship, that she can't be in a relationship and grow as a person, that the meaning she gives mike is undeserved and that she won't be empowered until she is single and gets her strength from virtually anywhere else. but el is a complex superhero character whose love interest plays a fundamental role in the story, same as clark kent and so many male characters out there. the difference is that men can be in love and still be seen as empowered and strong, girls can't.
meanwhile, mike's not the superhero, he's the love interest. he's the heart. he's lois lane. his role is to inspire the superhero, to give her hope and get her to fight on. when the superhero leaves or disappears, he waits. however long it takes. when the superhero needs reassurance or a pep talk or to feel happy for a couple of seconds, that's when he comes in. he dedicates a huge chunk of his life to supporting el. now, that's not his sole purpose or quality... he's unbearably kind and smart and the leader of the party. he's also brave and incredibly selfless. but all of this is rarely acknowledged. for all that he is and for all that he gives other characters, especially el as she tends to be his priority, mike receives the same treatment as almost any other female love interest to a superhero. which is, honestly, a lot of unjustified hate. the level of criticism (if you can even call it it that) mike gets from both the st fandom and locals is truly unmatched and it's always on the grounds that he is annoying or somehow not good enough or useless to the plot (even though that's simply not true. objectively). he takes on the traditionally feminine role in the relationship and displays traditionally feminine traits and that's a problem for some people. not even because he's a boy specifically, just because anything traditionally feminine tends to be devalued and hated on.
idk. just a thought.
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Do you think Goten and Trunks ever sneak away from their families to have sex? What if their families know about it- how do they feel? Would they put a stop to it?
HI?
IM SORRY THIS IS FUNNY...
"Would they put a stop to it" MAKES ME FEEL LIKE .. THEY ARE UNIFYING AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY .. Like there's a new big bad coming to Earth. They all unite under a common cause. COULD THEY STOP IT? Would they be strong enough???
Okaaay honestly I do want to answer this one .... Thank you anon for your patience and persistence on the matter.
HOW CERTAIN DRAGON BALL CHARACTERS WOULD FEEL ABOUT / RESPOND TO THE NEWS OF GOTEN & TRUNKS FORMING AMOROUS RELATIONS:
CHICHI
Her mortal vessel would not be enough to contain the amount of disparaging emotion that she would feel about it. She would not be able to fully accept or digest the news. No matter how she responds to it, there will be an element of denial and disassociation: She will either just flat-out deny that it's happening, or she will detach from how she feels about it and pretend that everything is okay, all the while keeping her jaw locked and never actually thinking about it much.
GOKU
Remember when Future Trunks revealed who his parents were? And specifically that his mom was Bulma? Goku was all like WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !??!!??! But then immediately after he went like "You know now that you mention it, that does sound like something that she would do." Well he pretty much responds the same way here. He'd be like WAAAAAAAAAH !?!??! and then "You know now that you mention it, they've always been pretty close." Same thing
BULMA
Bulma is a difficult character to portray. I've heard other people say that too. It is possible that her writing has only been concrete about a few specific details, and she is not really made to exist in a variety of daily situations. But that seems really silly to say given that almost all dragon ball characters were created to only exist in the situation of battle. But that's okay. We'll do our best.
I think that her response may depend on how exactly she perceives the situation. If she's led to assume that it's some wild frat-boy-type behavior, some churlish prank, some boys-will-be-boys type of interaction, then she would probably elect to just stay out of it. She would sigh and wonder when they will ever learn.
If she was made to think that it was more committed than that, perhaps with repeated offenses or an element of romance, then she would probably feel a little torn. On one hand she loves yelling at people and telling them what to do, but on the other hand, she wants her own son to have all the freedom and self-authority that she has had. She would probably sit Trunks down and have a talk with him that ultimately amounts to her telling him to be more discreet with this sort of shit. If she knows about it, then who else does? She would have to be supportive if it turned out to be a committed relationship, but until then, she doesn't want to know about it. She wouldn't really be proud to hear it. She would think that it's ridiculous and insane - I mean honestly, honestly, you have access to the world, and you pick JUST a Goten? He's your best friend, do you really need him as a lover too? Ridiculous. Son, have some class. Have some taste.
VEGETA
A strictly canon intrepretation would have him be like GAH-!? WAH-? TH-THAT'S ABSURD!!! HOW VULGAR!!!!!
And well that's fine. But I also think that he wouldn't actually care at all.
He doesn't consider his children to be extensions of himself. He allows them their autonomy. He's okay with not caring.
He may feel a sort of disgust at the news, because there is an element of hedonistic indulgence that repulses him, and becasue ... He honestly just doesn't think that that's quite right. But between you and me, Vegeta doesn't know too much about love and romance. Now that he's a married man, he believes that it's right and authentic that he's a male man with a female mate whom he met post-adolescence. And that's true for him. So he honestly just assumed that his son and that Kakarot's son would follow the same pattern. But he won't try to disparage the realty before him. Like it's truly whatever. He does NOT care to think about love as a concept, so this isn't REALLY a mystery to him. It just is what it is. So be it. He never cared in the slightest anyway. And that's a fact
If he found out indirectly via gossip, he would not say anything. If he found out by overhearing a conversation, he would not interject. If he found out by someone telling it to his face, he would just not respond.
The most he would do is advise the two to get back to training.
VIDEL
Videl would be shocked about it but she would be able to digest it. She never would have expected that Goten and Trunks would add to their lifelong bond the passions of desire, or for them to even be able to orchestrate moments of dry but mutual relief - but she would ultimately be fascinated by their ability to overextend their platonic love into such territory, rather than being repulsed in any way. She knows them both and she trusts them to do right by themselves. She just didn't realize that the fraternal bond that they had could have ever produced or housed anything like that. She wonders if she was wrong in her assessment of their relationship, or if she has just underestimated their flexibility and creativity. Evidently they have forged chemistry with each other. Leave it to those two to surpass expectations, right?
GOHAN
Gohan is the only one who would maintain a disturbment actually. He's the only one who would functionally Disapprove. Hear me out ...
It's sort of similar to how when he found out that Piccolo was dating his mom, he sort of regressed and got all petulant and immature and just DIDN'T LIKE IT. He thought it was YUCKY.
Gohan generally has the open mind of a scientist and he enjoys it when other people are taking full advantage of the life that they have. But he is not an undisturbed man and there are some things that he just shuts down about. Usually it's "minor" things so you wouldn't notice the way that a front of juvenile emotions come to the forefront and lead, but it does happen. This is one of those things.
Why? Well because it's YUCKY, mainly.
But also, he has a disproportionate amount of his rocky self-image caught up in maintaining the health of his baby brother. His adolescence was all about keeping the house from falling apart and making sure that his brother would turn out happier than he did. It was a lot of self-sacrifice. Gohan didn't have the time or space to focus on himself and heal until he attended public school and started to make a social presence for himself. Before that, he was either attending to his emotionally unstable mother, his baby brother, or locking himself up in his study and ignoring his own feelings and instincts.
And Gohan really does want Goten to be happy healthy safe and free. And he really does do a lot to encourage those ends. REALLY TRULY. But becasue of all of that he kiiiind of DOES have a lot of Strong Feelings when it comes to Goten's behavior. Not necessarily always becasue he's overly worried or anxious. Or becasue he's projecting. Or becasue he's hoping vicariously for Goten to have what he didn't. Or becasue he's needing Goten to remain a perfect little angel to justify the self-sacrifice Gohan had to deploy in his adolescence (similar to how he needed to understand Piccolo to be the unequivocal hero who could do no wrong in order to uphold Gohan's inner sense of support and modeling that took a hit when he was very young, which is why he unraveled when he found out that Piccolo had a life outside of him and that he had the potential to betray him by fuckihg his mom.) Not necessarily because of any of those things but sometimes yes and sometimes no and sometimes a combination.
So like. Gohan tries very hard to keep an open mind. And in his behavior he does a lot to be a supportive and reassuring figure in Goten's life. But there are also some things that he needs to not change. For example, he is very used to and very comfortable with and very appreciative of Goten and Trunks's eternal broship. That's awesome. It's been so great for everyone. That's awesome and socially appropriate. All is right in the world
If Gohan found out that their "broship" rolled a little against the grain, then on the surface he would come to accept it at face value and respond with the appropriate amount of support or concern; but a knowing eye could see the way that his face goes flat and stiff. Videl notices for instance, the way that his words seem empty, and then how he conveniently needs to excuse himself from the conversation and disappear in his office for three days.
Especially because this ask specifically is about sex and not ambigous romance. Gohan would struggle to hear that. He would think that it's YUCKY and not be able to force maturity about it for long. He would just sort of regress, and his disapproval would become evident.
First it's the way that his face goes flat. Then it's the way that his shoulders tense up around the subject. And then it's the growing decision of his eyebrows to knit, and then the subtle words of confusion, and then eventually the outright -
"Well I just don't get it. It makes no sense. This isn't right. How could something like this happen? I mean, Videl, how could this come to be?"
And Videl would tell him, Um, "Gohan, don't ask questions that you don't want to know the answers to."
And Gohan would leave the room about it. He doesn't REALLY want answers. He's just feeling completely baffled and upset and incredulous, and he reflexively asks for answers when he really just wants the universe to say "You know what, you're right. That is weird. And it shouldn't be happening."
But that's not going to happen. This is reality buddy. And we're all just living in it.
Videl would try to tell him that it's not a big deal and that it's perfectly alright and that she was shocked too but it's not the end of the world, and he would counter with "Goten had a girlfriend just a few months ago. He's just acting out from that. He's not handling the breakup well clearly. He just feels rejected and like no girl will ever love him. It's sad. He's just rebounding. This isn't right for him. This isn't right for either of them, they're best friends, this isn't right. This is a waste of a time and a useless detour for them. And this isn't Goten's heart. This isn't good for him. We should intervene. Videl, we need to intervene."
And Videl would say "Actually, Gohan, I just spoke to them the other day, and they both seemed well-adjusted as usual. They know themselves well, and I think that I trust them to do right by themselves. And I don't think that this is the result of some insecure rebound. As I recall, it was Goten who broke up with his last girlfriend, because he wasn't feeling like it was going anywhere he liked, and he knows what he likes well enough to pursue it. They parted on fine terms. I think that this is fine for him to do, Gohan."
Actuallyyyyyyyy actually actually actually You Know What. You want to know what I REALLY think?
I Think That Goten is an emotional, spiritual fellow. I think that he is a soulchild. I think that he intuits more than he thinks and that he feels more than he contemplates. I think that the makeup of his world is just more passionate and emotional than some others'.
This ask is ambiguous on exactly the sort of relationship that Goten & Trunks are cooking up. Is it the irreverence of youth, carefree and in good humor? Is it like stags in rutting season? Is it a curiosity that dies when it's had its due? Are they committed to call each other boyfriends? Is it chemistry, bizarre in its late onset for how long they've associated, but overwhelming nonetheless?
Here's the thing. Here's. The. Thing. Gohan would respond to such news all the same no matter the details - he doesnt like it, he doesnt want to know about it, he's not happy with it, he's having a period of regression and is obstinate in his negative emotions about it. And eventually, he would show it. From a general iciness, to advice to Goten to abort the whole thing, to outright arguments in which he is firm about how much of a waste of time this whole thing is.
BUT. HEY. LISTEN. If this is really something that Goten is taking seriously, then he would seriously consider all of Gohan's points, becasue he has always given him good advice - but ultimately, he would defer to his heart, and if this was something that his heart is taking seriously, then eventually he would ARGUE BACK and eventually just STAND HIS GROUND.
Eventually he would decide and share that: Maybe Gohan is just being heartless! Has he ever actually known passion? He married the first girl he loved, and ever since they've been so diplomatic and sensible about it. Maybe Gohan just DOESN'T understand the passions of the body and soul like Goten does. Maybe he CAN'T be an authority about this - he's never found himself swept up in the fire. Gohan has always been well-composed and sensible and at times even absent. What could he really know about what's good for Goten, or for anyone?
And the thing is thissssssss would actually make Gohan think. He would actually bring it up with Videl and ask her if he's cold and if they're cold and if they ever actually got love right.
And Videl is soooo smart and intuitive and wise, she would tell him The Truth which is that: They understand love, it's just had to be in their own ways and at their own pace, and they have always respected that of each other, and they have always been patient with each other, and they have always been careful with each other and with themselves.
When they met, Gohan had been literally isolated, and Videl had been kept locked away by intangible conventions. She'd always had to be careful about whom she associates with, whom she shares her name with; and her father had always restricted her romance options. She knew she liked Gohan from the start, but she still paid herself her due and kept a slow pace, giving herself time to adjust, making sure all of her was okay with and wanting to move forward. She and Gohan were friends a while before they started dating officially.
Gohan has always been cautious by virtue of the fact that he is 100% IGNORANT about the art of courtship. So he's had to give himself time to learn and adjust to the whole thing too.
And for him, this emotional intimacy that he was forging with Videl was a big deal, because there have been very few people who have seen intimate sides of him, and he himself even tends to shy away from his dark corners and pits. This intimacy was an overwhelming thing, and he had to take it slow to process it all.
So. He and Videl absolutely got love right. They necessarily had to move at a pace respectful to themselves and to each other. They are both more rational people whose world is built on laws of universal order, so this is what was right for them.
For someone like Goten, this approach would be a soul-crusher, and it is not at all intuitive to his whimsical heart. While he does sit and meditate on a greater order to the universe, to him it's less patient and serene and much more beautiful and livid and visceral, and he wants to breathe and bleed right along with it. That's just how he's built (particularly in his youth).
So. yeah.
I mean Gohan isn't gonna be a btich about it foreevr he would come to not care like the rest. And actually I think that in the event that this is a GT-era type event and Palace is involved, and it's like a throuple thing, then I think that Gohan would be intrigued about how that sort of relationship pattern would come to be. He would take a detour from his current studies to dig a little into the various forms of romantic relationships throughout human history and their greater social purpose. Furthermore by that point he would be used to Goten being an adult and he wouldn't care what he gets up to becasue of it.
Hope that answered your question
Stay lovely <3
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Is it just me, but doesn't it feel a bit strange that in the mighty movie, Skye and Chase have an "integral" friendship when they weren't even close when the show began.
Chase's best friend is Marshall, but I feel like they're trying to change the show's history by making Skye and Chase close when they weren't even that close in season 1.
It doesn't feel right to me 😕
Sadly, this isn't the only instance of the writers ignoring things in recent years. Rubble not having a family and then a really big one suddenly pops up for the spinoff, Skye's out-of-nowhere lack of confidence because of her size, Aqua Pups ignoring nearly every Merpup rule established in earlier seasons, etc..
But Spin Master disregarding Chase and Marshall's strong friendship and pretending it's actually been Chase and Skye is, to me, one of their biggest offenders. It's a change that, as silly as it may sound, does nothing but tarnish the love I once had for this franchise.
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It's not like this is some fan-theory or anything. Even Nick Jr. has made videos showcasing their strong bond. Fans fully acknowledge it, and even Chase x Skye proponents have reacted to this news in utter confusion.
So... what gives? Well, I think I might have an answer. This may be a bit of a touchy subject, but what the heck, I'll talk about it anyway.
If there's one thing I've noticed over the years, it's that people have been demanding (sometimes angrily) for more female protagonists in movies, games, TV shows, etc.. Companies have complied to this, and Spin Master is no exception. Unfortunately, when they created PAW Patrol, they only made one of the main six pups a girl - a detail that displeased many viewers from the very beginning. Sure, they've created more female members since then, but the cartoon has been getting lazier about using any of their part timers now (I think Everest only appeared three times each in season 8 and 9).
Their solution? Give Skye more screen time, of course. Unfortunately, either by accident or on purpose, we now have a pup who gets called in during nearly every single mission. This is not an exaggeration; in season 9, she was used more than Chase, the main character and face of the franchise. Of course, it's not enough that they call her in a lot; they also wanted to give her an edge over the other four... something to make her "special" to stand out.
How did they go about doing this? Well, I think we know, given how this post got started in the first place.
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Thus, our favorite Dalmatian got booted out of his position as Chase's best friend. Now, it's Skye who has an "integral" friendship with the shepherd. They're all "friends", but it's suddenly nothing compared to what these two share... apparently. I suppose it wasn't enough for them to shove Marshall to the side during missions so they could call Skye in more... they had to take that from him, too.
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And for the life of me, I've no idea what the Spin Master president is talking about. Sure, Chase and Skye get called in together during missions a lot, but they hardly interact at all. It's not much different outside of missions, either. And if it was "acknowledged" in the first theatrical film, I certainly don't remember it. Chase and Marshall, on the other hand? Although brief, we still get hints of it every now and then, even as recent as season 9. It's clearly there, but I guess Spin Master, and possibly the movie director/writers, have other ideas.
There's no denying their priorities have changed. Sadly, I don't expect things to go back to the way they were anytime soon, especially if this leaked document is any indication.
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As you can see, Spin Master is adopting a new strategy that promises to focus more on female-driven marketing and stories. Don't get me wrong, I don't oppose the idea at all (in fact, I'm thrilled they're giving Everest a 44-minute mini-movie... I absolutely want her to get more screen time), but in the long run, it shouldn't come at the expense of the male characters. Sadly, due to how much they overuse Skye now, I feel that's exactly what's happening... especially to Marshall. It's one of the reasons why I've started losing interest in the TV series, and why I'm sorry to admit I have little interest in The Mighty Movie. Skye will continue getting preferential treatment to compensate for their lack of foresight, while characters like Marshall will likely continue getting the short end of the stick as a result. I really hope I'm wrong, but the evidence seems all too clear.
I apologize for the length of this post, and if any of it comes off as sounding like a rant. And if anyone takes offense to something I've said here, I swear to you, that was never my intention. In truth, as many of you have seen, I have a lot of passion for both Marshall and the PAW Patrol franchise, which has lead me to become frustrated by some of its changes and the direction it's going in. And I know I'm not alone on this, as even most fans nowadays cheer when Chase and Marshall are finally given the chance to team up again... the rare times it happens, anyway. I suppose it's telling how excited we get for such morsels, but...it's often all we've got now.
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🌸 TAG YOU’RE IT! Name your Top 5 OTP created by your fellow simmers. Spread the love and happy simming! 🌸
oh my god oh my lord oh my good jesus you asked the WRONG PERSON LET'S GO
ahem hem hem hem hemm hemhem
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these are not in numerical order i lose my mind abt these ships on the daily
mr. and mrs. drake from @cinamun's amazing "things fall apart" series (we remember the "/indya" tag days ok!!) the love i have for miss indya williams will never die and i swear i feel like i know her like she's a real person at this point, but i have never been more spellbound by a character's growth and development than the kind of writing i see in darren drake okay. these two have been through it, have talked and not talked, have loved and fought, and have gone through hell to be together. never have i wanted two lil pixel people to be happy more than i want them to have a good life with their babies. if that's not love, i don't know what is. (plus the way they abuse that wickedwhims i mean cmon)
jet lem-43 and kana lothario from @gothoffspring's lem-43 legacy! their courtship was so Soft, it literally makes my teeth rot and my heart ache. every touch is so gentle and full of love, they make poses seem as though they were made for these two. i am absolutely gnawing at the walls to see their babies because i know those lil bundles of pixel chub will be precious
@hauntedtrait's mortimer and bella goth are genuinely some of my favorite iterations of my favorite couple, and not just because fangs is my soulmate ok. they're able to add a prose and a warmth to the love between these two that maintains their sensuality while really building a believable foundation of the two's bond, and i'm a big sucker for a devoted morty and a beautiful and kind and mysterious bella ;u;
okay we all know that i'm livin' it up with my husband randy in his motel, and we are of course the top couple here-- pff, if you didn't think i wouldn't be in here losing my mind over the future mr and mrs. finch from @rebouks's incredible epic "somnium", then you don't know me. after my life experiences, i love to see a couple stay strong through hardship: to see them fight and struggle to communicate, and to see them overcome the things that challenge them to come together stronger and with more understanding of one another. courtney is one of the best female characters i have read on simblr in a long time, and it's only fitting that she's earned the love, trust, and protection of one of my favorite good boys <3
and you know, it's a shame i didn't know about them before recently, but @citylighten's sal and eve have a dialogue between them that is honestly so refreshing and so real that i find myself wanting to fcking hang out with them irl. seeing the ways they've grown together, seeing the ways that eve has brought out the softer side of sal and the ways in which sal has boosted eve's confidence in herself, outside of his love for her, for her sake... i just, how could you not love a couple that is so fundamentally invested in their relationship like i am just. besotted.
and personally, the sexual energy between leah morfang and viktor in @aniraklova's amazing universes transcends their outfits and all aesthetics. i just love seein' them together, i really do.
this isn't even all of them i mean good lord. @goodnightlittlewing's henry and bonnie were so adorable that i wanted to travel all over the sim world with them, and @elmleif's cillian and saoirse make me smile every time i see them. hell, i'm almost angry i can't think of all the couples i absolutely adore i'm gonna edit this so much dkfhsdk
oh my god. the ogs. the originals. you know my top otp of ALL TIME.
gael mcmahon and ME his baby assy @buglaur the true otp
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All in all with Traum? It's...honestly I'm gonna say it. It's Apocrypha 2.
The good parts of Higashide's writing come through here. He's great at creating cool scenes where the servants get to show their stuff (if he respects the characters, we'll get to this). Astolfo vs Tametomo and Roland's scenes are great, and even though there are issues with Johanna as a character she has some genuinely well-written moments. Even Don Quixote has his time in the spotlight which you wouldn't expect.
But the bad parts are really present. If Higashide does not seem to care about a character, they're just going to die or be killed offscreen. Salome's entire presence in the lostbelt is bait, she doesn't really join you and literally just gets sniped by Sugitani. Sugitani themselves only show up TWICE in the entire Lostbelt: the scene where they shoot Salome and the scene at the end where she takes a shot at Zhang Jue, who doesn't die and instantly kills them in response. The reveal that Sugitani was working to destroy the Lostbelt the whole time has no weight to it because they've not shown up ever! They don't even know who we are. It's the weirdest Chekov's Gun ever.
Zhang Jue himself is a very weird case where he's technically quite important but he doesn't really do anything particularly interesting. He just sort of "dies" a couple of times, and then it's revealed he's been dead the whole time and probably made the entire singularity? But this is narrated to us by Moriarty and we don't see it or hear it from Zhang Jue because again he's...dead, kind of. It just feels weird, it feels like we should have a climatic final battle but uh...we never do.
Kriemhild...*sigh* I'm not going to go into detail on this. It's bad writing, it's really bad. It's a sudden character reversal with no real build-up or foreshadowing or...anything. It destroys every aspect of her character and leaves behind only "Siegfried's wife" which at this point, I guess I should expect from Higashide. Maybe he is a misogynist.
With the possible exception of Xu Fu, literally EVERY female character in this lostbelt is defined by their relationship to a man in some way. Some of it is obviously pre-established like Bradamante or Kiyohime, but once you get to "Johanna and Constantine XI are in love" you just kind of hope it dies in this singularity. Johanna is a cool character outside of this, and if this fucking envelops her character from here on out I'm gonna be pissed.
I don't have any strong feelings about the Holmes reveal, I do think it's funny that its foreshadowed quite early on, but it comes from a fairly logical place. It's a bitttt silly but honestly not the worst thing in the world.
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I really hate, genuinely hate, Eloise Bridgerton. I hate how the fandom has tried to victimize her. I hate how this idea of feminism is somehow okay. I hate that she dismisses, is rude to, and treats all of the people in her life like shit and everyone that is her fan thinks that's okay. I honestly hate how she treated Penelope when she found out the truth.
Now, don't get me wrong, Penelope has made mistakes, and as a character who will grow I hope she gets to make amends to the people that she feels she's hurt the most, but I do not want one of those people to be Eloise. Sorry. Because Eloise has such a disdain for Penelope that I don't think that would be an adequate relationship for either one of them.
I only went off on Penelope because I'm sure some fans of Eloise are going to try to excuse her by demonizing Penelope
I find nothing, and I mean nothing about Eloise admirable. She has no sense of the world outside herself. She talks about female equality, but she doesn't actually want it for everyone. She treats no one, aside from maybe Benedict at this point, kindly. Not servants, not her family, and just in general not even just polite to strangers.
It doesn't make her a strong female, this makes her an asshole.
I was okay with Eloise in the first season. I understood her frustration and I thought she was actually a little bit more sympathetic. Even though, she was awful to Daphne all the time. But this second season, I have no idea what they've done, but I flat out hate who she is as a character.
She did nothing but complain about her privileged life the entire time. She did nothing to actively make herself less miserable. Rudeness and meaness is not cute or in any way something that I would tolerate in life. I don't get why anybody at all would be a fan of season 2 Eloise. She is the worst.
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Let me preface this by saying AOS will always be in my top 10 kdramas of all time. It truly made me feel so many things, happiness, but mostly anxiety and stress. I don't think I've ever been more obsessed with a kdrama, which is why I need to put all my feelings down so that I can move on from this show. I am well aware that writers/directors cannot satisfy everyone and there's a lot of factors that influence the final outcome of the drama. But I just wanted to talk about the good parts and the bad parts as well as what I selfishly wanted to see. This is going to be all over the place, tbh.
First of all, my love for these characters and actors/actresses is truly unhinged. This is the first time I've seen any of them in a drama and I'll probably follow all of their careers for the rest of my kdrama life.
I think Jung Somin (JSM) and Go Younjung (GYJ) both did amazingly. They were different characters (but also the same) that did great with what they had. Not gonna lie, I was very worried about GYJ before S2 aired (this being her first lead role, her being a rookie, that she had never done romance before this, trying to follow JSM, etc. etc.) but she truly exceeded my expectations. Lee Jaewook (LJW) is my boy and it's hard to believe that he's only 24 years old. Shin Seung-ho and Yoo Insoo will always be in my heart and they're so funny and goofy (in real life especially) and I love them. Hwang Minhyun wasn't my favourite character, but the interactions of all of the actors in real life just makes my heart so warm. They're so cute!
I always have strong feelings towards writers when it comes to any type of show and I tend to feel the most hate towards them. Like do they not have moderators that go "oh, this is shit and doesn't make sense, please revise"? It always feels sad when the story that they've developed for years and the characters that we hold so dearly don't reach their potential. But as I said before these are my own selfish feelings.
Fantasy/romance genre is my absolute favourite. The further from reality the better and romance (when done well) just feeds my soul like no other. Fortunately/unfortunately fantasy has a lot of potential for world building and story telling. So where the kdrama fell flat was the plot, pacing and world building.
This drama had 30 episodes and they had multiple filler episodes that could've been used to flesh out the magical world and the dominant families and how they came to be. I loved ukiedoekie and ukyeong (my fav, tbh), but they could've given some of the other actors more screentime to better the plot.
The questions I have are: was the plan always to have Go Younjung come back? Because season 2 makes you question whether they even wanted her there. What happened with Jung Somin? Why did she not even have cameos in season 2, when clearly she should have? If it was just scheduling issues, then I kind get it, but she made that insignificant cameo when they could've made her do young Jin Buyeon's role, because it doesn't make sense that the 10 year old was there. Was the budget less for S2 than S1? Could they not afford JSM for S2 so they had to rewrite stuff? I just feel like the show really lacked cohesion in S2 and it shows and I'm trying to come up with excuses as to why. I loved Naksu/JBY/CY and how GYJ portrayed her, but the storyline and how they went about her character makes me question everything.
I do not like how they under utilized the female characters in this show. Jin Cho Yeon was just there. It's crazy to me that she was part of the oh so great "four seasons", for what?
Jang Uk (JU) and Mudoek were portrayed very well by the respective actors, I think they were great. But I wonder whether in interviews and press stuff whether it was a PR thing to not have them interact or make you feel anything when they're together (because they knew that LJW would be endgame with GYJ) so that the fans wouldn't get even more attached to them. Or did they not really "like" each other that much outside of their work or maybe their age gap was too significant? I put "like" in quotations because from the BTS videos they were always professional and pleasant with each other. I was sad when NO ONE from the AOS cast showed up to JSMs movie premier and no one really posted about her when the show wrapped for S2, except Yoo Insoo, that sweetheart.
LJW and GYJ are a whole other story. Their chemistry was extremely apparent on screen and in real life. I think they're the cutest and you can clearly see how much they care for each other and respect each other. If they were trying to distract the viewers from the plot with kissing scenes and on screen chemistry then it kinda worked, but I see you.
Naksu, Naksu, Naksu. That opening fight scene was the biggest clickbait I've ever seen in my entire life. I loooooove physically strong female leads that can fight with the boys and hold their own physically. Please see that I'm saying physically, because obviously emotionally or mentally strong is inferred. So to say I was sad that we never truly got to see that again is an understatement. In S2 I get why they ended it how they ended it, but if Naksu/Cho Yeong (CY) was never going to use her mage powers they could've fleshed out the priestess powers to make the ending more satisfying. (See earlier note about budget or them making JU look the strongest at the expense of the female character.)
I would've like to see JU and CY seeing each other when they found out that they could be together forever. Even if it was just them looking at each other from a far. (I just know that their micrexpressions would've slapped) I wish we got more interactions with all of the actors together. I wish that the final scene was them hunting a relic in Daeho and all the village people in awe of the power couple and seeing the faces of their friends and family knowing that they're home. That would've been cute. If they made half of season 2 about them hunting relics, I would've been so happy. I hate that they never cleared Naksu's name. Does the main cast know that she's Naksu or are they still lying to people? That's something that should've been cleared up. I also feel sad about Danggu and Mudoek's relationship that never got closure, because they were besties in S1. I would've also like to see more of Cho Yeon and Naksu's relationship, it was eluded to in one of the episodes that Cho Yeon is aware that Jin Buyeon is Naksu and she still treated her like her sister, which I found very endearing. So I would've like to see them being chosen sisters instead of just blood sisters. I quite like how they never bother to mention to JU that GYJs face is Naksu's original face, like they don't compare the two and JU immediately accepts it because he loves her soul. Cute.
I feel like they didn't let Naksu/CY deal with her trauma. That chick has been through a lot a lot. Like a lot. And they were just like "vibes, she continues". Why, when they gave JU time to heal from his trauma? Yes, in the end it was her choice to give up her sword and not train, but why couldn't they show us her healing process and how she decided that?
This brings me to the pacing of the show. S1 also had shit pacing, let's be honest, but S2 was worse because they could've had so much plot filled episodes and they still decided to give filler episodes. Season 1 kept on opening so many doors that they never closed and that continued on to S2. They dragged that amnesia plot and then the last 2 episodes were rushed. They very much showed the conflicting sides of JU in S2. They showed his reluctance to feel anything towards JBY and him pushing her away (I found him to be really mean at some points) and then his inability to see her suffer and caring for her from a distance. But to drag this out was also unnecessary, he was still mean to her up until ep 7.
That doctor chick was so fucking annoying. She literally had no point in S2 (or S1 really) except to be exceptionally annoying (please see earlier note about how female characters were underutilized and sidelined).
Anyways, regardless of budget and politics the storyline of AOS could've been much better, but I will always be grateful to the Hong sisters for giving me these characters and showing me these actors/actresses.
May 2023 bring in all the good kdramas and HEAs, because 2022 was a bit much. (A part of me hopes that GYJs new action kdrama "moving" is fucking amazing just so that the Hong sisters regret never giving her another action scene.)
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NATLA - Episode 2: Warriors (2/4)
[Masterlist of my NATLA thoughts]
An explanation of what I'm doing here and my history with ATLA.
Of course, full spoilers ahead.
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Love love LOVE that they made the Kyoshi statue not only GIANT and made of stone (her native element) but also transformed it into a shrine to her. Feels so lived in and carefully crafted for her. Of course Sokka just walks right in, feeling no sense of 'hey maybe I shouldn't just barge into a temple' and EEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! The introduction of the Kyoshi warriors was fantastic! All those women coming out in full regalia and handling the Gaang with ease - then the 'sign' that Aang was the Avatar. You can feel the reverence for Kyoshi in everything the people of the island do and I love how the leader's reasoning she finally gives for letting the Gaang stay is that Kyoshi herself benefited from the kindness of strangers - it really cements just how much of their lives they connect directly to their island's namesake (and creator). Speaking of, love that the island's leader is actually a woman this time, actually following through on the idea the animated version had of an island filled with strong warrior women.
Not going to lie, the few lines Suki has with her mother where she convinces her to allow the Avatar to stay does more to flesh out Suki's character than the entire episode in the animated series. Sue me, but you know I'm right. Animated Suki existed solely to teach Sokka that 'girls strong too' and that was it. She had no agency other than 'strong warrior' - no hopes, fears, wants, history. She existed to further the male character's development and it wasn’t until after the writers saw how much people liked her that they decided to bring her back in season 2 of the animated show. She was literally supposed to be a one off character. I've already posted about Suki and the changes made to her here, but to summarize, in the live-action, she gets to be her own character, not just a 'lesson' for Sokka. She has her own wants and desires, wishes and fears - as does her mother. These female characters are given depth and their struggles make sense in the world.
Aang's beautiful belief in humanity and wanting to 'bring back the world he knew where people were happy' is so heartwarming and I can't believe anyone would deny him anything, but it makes sense that the people of the island would be hesitant to welcome him in. After all, they don't know him or why he's been gone 100 years and everyone is right - he brings trouble with him wherever he goes because of his status as the Avatar. He also seeds a theme that comes around in full force in the finale - that Aang doesn't feel like he belongs here. He's truly a man out of time and feels untethered to the world - which leads him to be perfectly fine merging with the Ocean Spirit with no intention of surviving as himself. Through the season, we see Sokka and Katara building that tether between them and it pays off as Katara brings Aang back from the brink of no return by pulling on that tether they've created themselves
Sokka's whole epic fail of a flirtation while Aang and Katara just grin in the background was amazing. Him asking Katara for his lines: genius. I like this development for Sokka's character MUCH more than the animated storyline where the writers were beating over our heads SOKKA IS SEXIST GUYS! LOOK HOW SEXIST HE IS! DO YOU GET THAT HE'S SEXIST?? Having him want to connect with another warrior because he feels inadequate in his own ability to be a protector is a much better way to build up his character than a sexist storyline that's resolved in a single episode and never affects anything ever again. Feeling like a failure after having a massive amount of responsibility shoved on you as a child, all the while knowing that your father had reservations about your leadership skills, is a much much much more interesting and deep character trait to work through than 'ladies weak, can no fight, only man strong'.
In the live-action, he's still proud of being a warrior, but we see the cracks in this façade - he has issues with feeling inadequate that he tries to hide - issues that are much more interesting and far-reaching than just 'he doesn't think girls can fight and is an ass about it'.
I like this introduction of Zhao a lot - he's not just an obvious macho man who wants to seize power from Zuko, but rather he's much more sneaky and knows how to use the resources at his disposal. Zuko, of course, marches in and makes demands while Iroh smooths over ruffled feathers and brings tact to the information requests while Zuko stalks off, annoyed. It's a great way to set up his eventual maturity and us understanding why he's always posturing in front of other fire nation soldiers - like Sokka, he's struggling with feelings of inadequacy because he isn't everything his father expected him to be, and so he's over compensating. Something I also appreciate with this iteration of Iroh is that I never felt like he was doing an impression of Mako - he made the character his own, there was a different energy with him which did give me pause on my first watch but I do appreciate that he brought his own spin to the character and I think it's a perfectly acceptable change - something I'll touch on in future episodes when we start dealing with the more serious aspects of Iroh like his being a brutal military leader.
A big complaint I've seen is that the Gaang didn't get a lot of time to just goof around and be kids, but I felt that there were moments of levity and fun in almost every episode, especially in the first ones. Aang and Katara playing in the water on Kyoshi island, Aang playing with the kids in town (and doing his classic air scooter into the statue), and I'll mention the moments in later episodes too. While it's not a WHOLE lot of goofy fun times, I still felt Aang's optimism and belief in the goodness of people through the whole show like his conversation with the leader of Kyoshi Island. The animated show had the beginning of every episode to devote to a little scene of everyone having down time and enjoying life, but the live-action couldn't follow that same structure. Plus a lot of the 'fun times' are quite slapstick and can't translate to live-action especially since the animated version, at least in season 1, wanted to keep the extremely child-friendly vibes where no one is ever in any real danger despite the wildly dangerous things that are happening to them. Again, that can work in a cartoon where you know if the Unagi tail-slaps Aang, he'll be fine, but in live-action, that doesn't work so well and can muddy the waters when characters really ARE in danger.
Totally get why they avoided the Koi riding and Unagi storyline too - 1) it's just a massive detour that cuts the flow of the story when you only have 8 episodes to work with and 2) they're already having to juggle tons of sets, flying, and stunts - they don’t need to add a pool set and all the safety issues swimming while filming adds - not to mention the CGI for the Koi and Unagi. I know a big character moment for Aang was going back and using the Unagi to put out the fires in the village - showing that he's taking steps to not run away anymore and even if it's just one town, he was going to do what he could to help. The live-action moved this character beat to Omashu when Aang sees the damage the bombings are having on the city and decides to stay and help instead of moving on - so same character beat, but just in a different place that allows the story to flow more smoothly with what they have (and the lesson they're exploring for each episode)
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2023 Movie Journey #16: Heart of Stone
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heart of stone. this is a movie i never would've watched if it weren't for my family. the only actors in it i knew were gal gadot and jamie dornan, and it's an action movie--so it would not have gotten my attention on netflix. but i was invited to watch it with them, and i checked out the trailer...and while trailers hugely lie, so i don't count on them anymore, it did give me the story's basic premise. which intrigued me! rare for an action flick.
so, as a movie that gal gadot also produced, this movie offers a few things i'm guessing were the goal. global adventuring, which i think is a lot more common these days in action movies, is definitely happening here. we're cheering on a tough female lead, who gets to behave like classic male action heroes: disregards orders, is nearly always right, has few ties to other people, survives innumerable deadly situations, has all the skills.
the plot itself i found unusually predictable, and it also has that thing where it centers on nearly mystical forces (in this case science so advanced it predicts the future) and expects you not to overthink it, to instead just go along for the ride. honestly, none of that bothered me--it wasn't meant to be a 'deep thought' movie and i didn't get bored (which i can, with a lot of action scenes) so i had fun overall.
there was only really one moment that surprised me, a plot twist that almost felt like a kind of jumpscare--and it was the jumpscare part that was surprising, not the twist itself. i had been waiting for that to happen eventually. so i would've liked a few more things that genuinely surprised me, if it were up to me, but there's nothing wrong with a movie decently fulfilling the beats you expect from it.
my actual complaint, the sole issue i had and the thing i would've changed if it were up to me, is the intensity and the tone of the violence in this movie's final battle.
our hero in the movie is practically indestructible for a lot of the film. she bounces back from all kinds of injuries and adventures and we see how powerful and smart and strong she is. so i get that the stakes are very high, by the time she's facing off against our antagonist--he has to be practically her match, and we have to believe there's a chance she could lose the fight, or it won't have an impact.
but because the scene is a physical fight between those two characters, and because of who we know them to be by the end...the fight scene is gruesome in a way that feels more like it's reveling in the visceral brutality of a man against a woman.
i really don't know if that feeling it gave me was intentional, on the movie's part? and if it was, i can't say i would understand why--it wasn't like it weakened the main character and therefore made the stakes feel higher. when your hero is already fighting for her life, it's a choice to have her male opponent choke her nearly to death, to show that to viewers, to make it part of what she has to overcome.
it's also a choice, to make him a misogynistic villain rather than one just motivated by money or politics. and maybe the violence and his attitude are supposed to be connected, maybe they did consider those elements important because in the end our hero triumphs and that's what we should care about: that even in the face of all that, she gets to win. i could imagine why they might have wanted to do that, and consider it a good thing.
but to me it just felt like watching an up close portrayal of violence against women while the camera lingered for way too long, leaving me deeply freaked out by an otherwise good experience.
some characters were drawn thin, creating plot choices that for me were the same as plot holes--or maybe i just have less patience than i used to for antagonists who are redeemed in the end because the hero brings them into the fold, skimming right past the harm they've caused to happy endings all around. (i love antagonists, but i prefer the complex kind, and this movie had limited time for complexity.)
like i said, it's not a movie i can think too deeply about, or it hurts my head. but it was interesting! and gal gadot carried it well.
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thoughts on the main bridgerton couples we’ve seen so far?
Ooooooh you've given me an opportunity to yap. Thank you kindly!!
Oh when I started season 1, I was sooooo excited for Daphne and Simon's fake dating plot. I wasn't expecting anything deeply profound. Just gimmicky trashy fun. And I really did enjoy them!! I liked watching them interact with each other. They were very sweet and charming.
Except uuuuggghhh!!! Their sexual dynamic made me so uncomfortable. Like I had so much fun watching the numerous scenes where they fucked like happy happy little rabbits and wished that was as far as the show took it. BUT the power imbalance was awful.
I understand historical accuracy of regency era women being less sexually educated the men and are sometimes completely clueless but GODDDD that doesnt mean I have to enjoy watching it. Bridgerton is supposed to be some stupid swoony sexy romance. But personally I don't find the virgin and slut trope to be all that sexy or swoony or romantic at all.
I don't like Daphne having to be taught how to masturbate by her love interest like she's a child
I don't like how her naivete is exploited by her husband
And I do NOT like how Daphne sexually assaults her husband out of SPITE. Its absolutely depraved. Its disgusting. Sick to my stomach.
Devastated by how fun Daphne and Simon initially were and then it all veered into creepy squirmy terrible territory. I wanted to enjoy them so bad.
The next is Kate and Anthony and. Hm.
I think Kate has the most compelling character set up out of everyone in the cast. I like that she's so much older than the typical female protag in these kinds of stories. She's still very young (26) but according to the era she lives in, she's ANCIENT for a woman. I quite like stories like that. About older women who think they've lost their chance of finding love years ago but receive a happy surprise. She's brainy and loud and stubborn and opinionated and gets on people's nerves but she's also so pleasant and funny and so full of love for her family and she's fucking GORGEOUS.
I don't have any strong opinions about Anthony except he's a bit of a cunt but the actor plays him so melodramatically that I do find him entertaining.
I was excited for the enemies to lovers thing. They both have such strong flammable personalities. I wanted mess. I wanted fire. I wanted her to tear his throat out.
But the romance itself was kinda....underwhelming. I dunno, I felt like they didn't have enough interactions to really loathe each other to the extent that they did. And then, again, they didn't have enough interaction for that loathing to morph into love. Like the fact that it states that they're "in love" when they've only had a few scenes together feels very unsatisfying. It didn't seem earned. At least with Simon and Daphne, they were hanging out with each other every day for weeks. Kate and Anthony were only having sporadic meetings every once and again.
ALSO the two of them crumbled into hopeless love way too fast for my liking. It felt like a jumble of fanfic scenes but with none of the substance of the Canon material to make the fanfic meaningful. I dunno man, Kate has been completely unreceptive to romance for her whole life and Anthony is stubborn and arrogant and completely against the idea of love. The evolution of their relationship seemed quite rushed. I think the burn should have been much slower, yknow? Taking down each others barriers one brick at a time.
ALSO. They should have just as many unapologetic sex scenes as Simon and Daphne. It anything, they should have had more. At least Anthony and Kate felt like they were on equal ground. I would much rather see a 26 year old woman getting railed than a 19 year old girl.
Are there any other main bridgerton couples? Hm...there's Eloise and that guy I've forgotten the name of. Hate it. Hate it a lot. I find Eloise to be quite an insufferable character and I do not even remember the guy's face. I'm mad that Eloise has a love interest in the first place. I'm mad that a love interest had to be tied in to a subplot about Eloise becoming involved in women's rights in order to make it interesting. I'm mad I'm mad I'm mad.
Uhhhh Colin and Penelope. Hm.
They're both going to be very sexy in the new season. I know they will be sexy. They are both sexy.
I love to see a fat girl get a kind decent man who's obsessed with her.
But MAN. Man....I so badly wish they didn't have Penelope wrong Marina in season 1. It was so vile. So cruel. So despicable. At least in my opinion. Penelops and Colin's relationship is probably never gonna sit right with me after that. There is NO WAY a decent man is going to forgive a woman for doing that to his previous girlfriend?? Right??
Well we know that he WILL forgive her. And he will fall in love with her. So Colin kinda sucks too.
Anyway those are my thoughts. I love bridgerton because I love mess and drama but there is nothing good going on here
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