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exo-raskreia · 8 months
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Kubo drawing IR, the non-canon ship, post-ending (2016-2023)
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VS Kubo sketching drawing IH & RR, the canon ships, post-ending (2016-2017)
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(2 chicken scratches Kubo was forced to make & a one-sided color spread that was later edited by Jump to make IR stickers)
Imagine your fav ship became canon, yet years after the ending, this was all the creator gave you while they continued to draw the rival non-canon ship... 🫢
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xoxomyseriesxoxo · 2 years
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There’s something that has been irking me in the past few months... /That/ part of the fandom (that mostly was NOT here when the manga was still published weekly and when it got cancelled by SJ) changed the narrative about our reaction to the ending.
Now it’s all ‘omg mean IR shippers who are bitter over their ship not being canon!! They are terrible people!!!’ and calling us us bullies when no, you weren’t there back then where there were daily d*ath th*ats and rude asks sent to us... Not to mention we were mainly angry at the way the ending was so rushed and poorly written. We didn’t even know whether I//sshin, R//yuken, G//rimmjow (AGAIN), U//rahara and Y//oruichi were still alive or not because it was never said IN THE MANGA (because we only got an answer in light novels years later but majority of people only read the manga, not the novels that are semi-canon at best). We were angry over U//rahara’s “forgive me, K//urosaki, K//uchiki, for leaving everything to you” was somehow forgotten and the final fight with I//chigo, R//ukia and U//ryuu (who had THE silver arrow) VS Y//hwach never happened. We were angry because C//had ended up fighting for profits (profesionnal boxing) and U//ryuu ended up alone (again), overworked and working as a doctor just like his father and that go against their character arcs. We were angry because there was a whole arc and hints in the final arc clearly showing how I//chigo didn’t fit in the human world anymore and yet stayed there in the end. We were angry because the Sokyoku, the symbol of S//oul S//ociety’s old ways and injustice that I//chigo destroyed, was REBUILT. We were angry because M//ayuri was still a Captain and not in jail for his crimes. We were angry because we loved and cared for the story and the ending went against the main and side characters’ arcs and against the s//hinigami’s new ideals represented by I//chigo and R//ukia. And yes, we were angry for the pairings too because it was so badly written but most of us were fine with an open ending or IR and ISH ending but the new ‘IR would be nothing without anime filler moments’ argument is so ridiculous because even if you only look at the manga, IR was great, developed and made sense. Weirdly enough, the ones repeatedly shouting that filler “argument” aren’t saying a word about R//ukia’s scenes getting changed/deleted in the anime rn despite being the deuteragonist as if her erasure hadn’t been bad enough in the manga vers. of the final arc (same for B//yakuya scenes to a lesser extent)... But yes, our anger is mainly aimed at how poorly written the ending was, not only shipping-wise but in general. And now it’s irritating to see new fans act as if criticism that were there for a decade is not allowed towards the story or the mangaka.
While I’m watching the anime so far and I’m happy with the added scenes (especially the ones with U//ryuu concerning his heritage and the conflict he feels over the whole situation), I must say I don’t like how they deleted R//ukia scenes and B//yakuya scenes on purpose. I prefer the old characters designs as well and though and color palettes are now closer to the manga’s, the body proportions often look wrong (B//yakuya’s face, U//ryuu’s jaw to mention only a few exemples) and the lighting is horrible. I’m watching because I want to see EBTR, R//ukia’s bankai, U//nohana’s true self etc. but I do understand why fans who were in the fandom back then aren’t watching the anime or simply left the fandom given how we’re being treated and how some people are changing the narrative.
(And before my words get twisted... There’s nothing wrong with being a new fan, just don’t make up a new version as to why we dislike the ending/how we react(ed) to it. The criticism towards the writing is also more than fair and has existed even before the last arc even started.)
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ariadnekurosaki · 2 years
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why has rukia's character degraded so much : //// who on earth is that imposter in tybw???? why is she so dumb??and boring??she could land a kick in midair in her gigai as an unseated shinigami in the first few chaps but she cant jump from one place to another without renji carrying her???and byakuya needs to advice her about her own bankai????none of her grace and elegance is there anymore, except in for a handful of scenes in the hear,fear,hear chapters
Rukia has some meaningful moments: in the hospital/relief station when she knows Ichigo's ruminating and thinks it's deeper than what Shinji told her; when she senses Ichigo's reiatsu before anyone else; and yes, when she reveals her bankai. I wouldn't call her "dumb" or "boring".
But I agree that Kubo did her a major disservice. While there's a reference to Ichigo and Rukia training in the royal realm, we see nothing of Rukia's work to gain bankai, and the moment of its reveal feels unearned and even like fanservice, albeit of a far less sexist kind than we usually got from Kubo. Why wasn't Rukia engaged in the final fight? She's the deuteragonist and she had a brand new bankai. Why was she left to babysit Orihime, instead?
Actually, I know the answer to that last part: Kubo couldn't show Ichigo and Rukia interacting again, or his chosen canon pairings would have come across as even more pallid, one-sided, and lifeless. After all, he's shown time and again that he can't help himself: when he draws an IchiRuki parting or reunion, everyone else fades away.
Of course, Kubo did every single one of his established characters a disservice in TYBW. The whole arc was such a dumpster fire, even before the trash pile of 685 and 686. There's a reason SJ treated Bleach like a gag manga.
It was sad to see a story with such potential come to such an inglorious end.
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What would you have changed about the Bleach final arc?
I kept thinking a lot about it, especially remembering everything from Bleach i have consumed. Since i'm terrible at writing metas, this will be kind of a simple answer ok 😭?
Make Uryu be the center of the arc, alongside with Ichigo, poor boy was so erased after SS arc, so this was his chance to shine again and made his bond with Ichigo stronger
Make Uryu and Ichigo defeat Yhwach. Idc if they would take power from their a$$es, seeing these two destroying the man who killed their mothers would be insane! They should be fighting together, not fcking Renji!
Give Rukia more screen time and importance, she was the second protagonist for the sake of god!
It would be good if Ori and Chad were more relevant for once...
Explain what happened with the rest of cast! Millions of characters disappeared and we know nothing about them after all;
Make Ichigo live in Soul Society, it can be in any way! My preference is he being a captain of gotei 13! But he could even be a lieutenaunt or just in some squad that i would be happy!
Chad could be a judo teacher! Especially since this is a self defense matial art! So he would use his fists to help protecting people :D
URYU WOULD BE A FAMOUS FASHION DESIGNER!!!
Orihime has so much possibilities man! She could be a nurse, a doctor, a pediatrician, a teacher, even a baker! As much she's working, i would be happy!
I would like to Ishihime be together! Especially because i feel these two have the vibes of wanting to date/be married, plus Ori could know the world, since Uryu would be famous!
IR? Well, there's nothing explicit about their relationship status, so you can imagine whatever you want about them 🤭
But Ichigo and Rukia are always together in everything!
They would reunite in Chad's house to see Uryu's fashion show! Ryuken would be watching too. Ori would be there with her husband in the vip session
Ichigo and Rukia would go back together to Soul Society after a while, with Isshin observing them meanwhile he smiles
When they enter the Soul Society, there's already enemies for them to defeat
And the manga would end with Ichigo and Rukia fighting side by side while smiling! Since it all started with them, it will end with them!
And of course no R//R
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republictrooper · 2 years
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Listen, I disliked the Bleach ending so much I basically abandoned the fandom. I did a little discourse on the ending, reblogged a few rants and a few final fics and art I found compelling, and kinda tried to forget Bleach existed
But even so, every once in a while, even now, someone likes or reblogs one of my old Bleach posts and I YEARN. I yearn for those old days of Bankai and Ichigo being dead serious about using his power to save everyone he could and Rukia finally, finally getting the power she always deserved, of Shunsui making plans to bring Ichigo to Soul Society to reform it for good, of Ishida stepping out from his fathers’ shadow and the tragedies of his past, of replacing the Soul King with something better, an afterlife that humans deserved.
Then I remember Chapter 686 and weep a bit.
But I still go back and browse some of the tag, focus on some of the characters and ships who werent hit too hard by the discourse beam, think fondly back on a fandom that, despite the bad end, gave me a few good years.
Ichigo still should have reformed Soul Society. And Kurotsuchi should have been drummed out of the Shinigami for his crimes. Like. At the VERY LEAST. What is this restore the status quo and leave Ichigo in the real world BS?
Anyway, the point is, In my browsing this time, I stumbled upon a surprisingly prolific ship for Rukia and Sode no Shirayuki and I would just like to note that those shippers’ brains are huge and they are braver than the troops. Soderuki 5ever.
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universeinbottle · 3 years
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Despite the awkward fact that Ichigo still reacts like a teenager in front of his hard crush when he hears about Rukia, or she talks to him, also if he is actually married with Orihime and with a son, and despite the fact that still no IchiHime and RenRuki panels have been written, where the hell are Ishida and Chad?
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stunnababyyabyyy · 3 years
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"You're special to me in every way. Thank you for being who you are." -Unknown
*credit to original owners*
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ladyemberswrites · 3 years
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Post Ending Ichigo!: I love my wife, Inou-I mean-Ruki-I mean-Orih/ime and My son Kazoo.
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chrismho · 4 years
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Byakuya: Stop dating my sister
Ichigo: You know what
Ichigo:
Ichigo: I'm gonna start dating her even HARDER
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exo-raskreia · 1 year
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Still laughing at how it's been almost 7 years since Bleach ended & neither Kubo, Shounen Jump or Pierrot have ever released any official couple/family arts of the endgame ships
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destructa1 · 3 years
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Another reason why I can't take the ending seriously is Aizen's speech. It came out of nowhere. so ooc for aizen and let's talk about how there was so many plot holes in the last arc that they had to hire another author to explain kubo's mess. Ichigo became so basic and boring at the end they had to replace him with someone else. ''The ending was planned from the beginning'' my ass. Is tybw the last arc or not ? Why the fuck is it so nonsensical ? DAMN.
Look I love Aizen but what in the actual hell ????
We never got a backstory for him while the generic op mustache guy got one. We never even saw his bankai 🙄. The disrespect.
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And of course nobody bought the ending except kubo's five years old fans with cockroaches for brain.
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ariadnekurosaki · 3 years
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For the first time saw life action today.
It's so romantic, its disgusting! This is not bleach it's Ichiruki-the movie. I love it. And look for all this amazing reviews for it.
Why the dir. didn't put much Ichi/hme huh? Weird..
How the fuck Kubo wasted potential moneybags of gold opportunity with making Ichiruki canon, I'll never understand!
Anon, I have seen the live action movie twice (look, lockdown was hard) and it is a balm for my Ichiruki heart. Ichigo and Rukia were cast perfectly and had excellent chemistry - not a surprise, as the actors have worked together many times. While many plot points were changed from the manga, the story felt true to the spirit of early Bleach.
I also have to give a shout-out to the Kurosaki family. Isshin was toned down in a good way. Karin and Yuzu were unbearably cute. Masaki 😭
And yes, I really enjoyed the fact that everyone around Ichigo and Rukia decided that they were clearly dating.
That said, I don’t really know about how much potential was wasted in terms of money. IchiRuki was and still is what sells, from movies to video games to gatcha (see: BBS sub-stories, birthday events, etc.) to pop-up cafes. Plus the anime is coming back. So there's still money being made even with a wonky final arc*.
*To be clear, I'm a shipper and all, but even if I ignore 685 and 686 there's plenty to criticize about TYBW. I don't plan to watch the anime but I have a vague hope that whatever studio got/gets hired will at least try to fix some of the plot holes.
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gritsandbrits · 4 years
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The two moods >:/
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tachipaws · 4 years
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Orihime: *wants to be like the rain because /she/ sees it as a means of connecting people*
Ichigo: *is shown to use rain as a metaphor for his depression and lack of self-confidence*
Rukia: *stops the rain for ichigo*
Orihime: *is glad Ichigo is no longer a soul reaper because then /she/ no longer feels the need to worry about his physical safety, no regard given to his mental/emotional state*
Ichigo: *goes through a months-long depression after losing his powers*
Rukia: *gives Ichigo his powers back right at his lowest point in the series*
But he ended up with his perfect partner, right?
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hezuart · 3 years
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That anaversary aizen looks absolutely fabulous, he looks like a figure skater xd.
I heard along time ago the last arc of the anime was being animated finally bc they pulled a 90s sailor moon were the last season was not either animated or dubbed untill decades later.
I recall near the end of the current 366 episodes there was an episode were the creapy demon ppl woke up in hell and we're all bitter, and there was the other guy who was like, iM cOmEiNg FoR u IChIgO, but then is never mentioned again after and I'm like,why? Why is lt there just plopted randomly into a different arc that seams unrelated.
And locking aizen up underground seems ok, but It deff won't hold, and he will. Escape, and he will kill, you either need that one spell from star, dubbed, the darkest spell of moon the undaunted, a powerfull dark spell that killed immortal beings, that came from best character, eclipsa, the queen of darkness.
We need that.
Or stick him I'm crystal like eclipsa was in star. Is there no one who could trap him in ice or crystal for all eternity.
How about throw him into the centre of a volcano trapped and caged , forverr being killed by heat?
I assume there's space travel, send I'm into a black whole, were a black whole don't fuckin care if your immortal or fat, you will die
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Yes, I love anniversary Aizen. His original octopus-butterfly hollow design was ugly so I'm glad he's back to being the fashion icon he is.
Locking Aizen up underground once is one thing, doing it twice after saying he got more powerful by just sitting there, and he escaped to battle the Quincy Soul King God... is another. I think he should have escaped at the end of the Quincy arc. That is the only feasibility.
I heard the anime is coming back for the Quincy arc as well, but because of COVID its probably going to be delayed. (I'm not gonna watch it until the Rain section of the arc then I'm dipping out. I'm only here for Zangetsu)
and funny that you mention that hell scene in the manga :)
-> spoilers for the new BLEACH 73 page anniversary chapter / thoughts/critique on it
So hey you had a premonition! Syazel .... returned? And his hole is outside of his body??? for some reason???
(I didn't understand the explanation or why / how that happens and what that means for the hollow)
And my friend and I were laughing because out of ALL the things. Kubo could do in this anniversary. He gave Syazel his dick back after going to hell. That is iconic. (that's where his hole was located, and now that its not on his body ... well...) This is the funniest thing Kubo has EVER pulled. Kudos to you, sir.
The entire internet is freaking out over Ukitake being in hell. Honestly Kubo has done far worse, and we've established that Soul Society is a corrupt system that hasn't changed, so I'm not surprised he would pull something like this.
At the same time, Kubo 1. cheated his audience. 2. continues to prove me right that he cannot bring himself to kill his characters
1. Hollows who have commit murder in their human life are sent to hell. Syazel and Aaorniero are two of these hollows, and yet, when they are killed, there is NO gates of hell scene. We see them there later in the hell chapter (which was more of a promotion for the fourth movie and I didn't believe it would hold any merit)
But the same goes for Ukitake. We never see the gates of hell take him. What, was hell late? Did hell's gates get lost like an uber before picking him up? It's bull. Withholding such vital information from your audience, not showing the gates of hell when they should pick up this soul IMMEDIATELY is ... I mean its a lie. Kubo lied to his audience.
2. Now we are told powerful shinigami are sent to hell when they die. First of all that sounds like a security threat. Wouldn't shinigami want revenge for that? Or attempt to escape? Why would they still hold loyalty after being sent to a prison of eternal suffering?
Also "Yhwach and Aizen" were the only ones keeping Hell's gates closed is way too convenient and doesn't really make any sense. I feel like Aizen should have deliberately gone to hell to retrieve powerful shinigami / hollows for his army instead of keeping it /closed/.
This is definitely a Kubo-doesn't-know-what-he's-doing-and-is -making- stuff-up-as-he-goes, but it might have a pinch of merit because of previous plot lines.... but either way, there's some big plot holes here, but again, its Kubo, so I expected nothing less.
Again, he can't kill off his characters. He introduced zombification, he introduced immortality through the hougyoku, he has Orihime and Hachigen's reversal / rejection abilities. He brought back Luppi, friggen.... a character who's entire upper half of his body was incinerated. Like.... come on. No. He's dead, you can't bring him back like that. That's a cop out and just weird. You're taking away consequences and grief.
(Also Yamamoto and Unohana deserve to be in hell far over Ukitake, they've done some fcked up stuff in their pasts unlike him)
Also Kubo's favorite character is Mayuri, which.... you're allowed to have a favorite problematic character. But Keeping said character alive and bared from the consequences of abusing his daughter, murdering innocents, and experimenting on your own squad members? Nah. Nope. Kill him, Kubo. Kill this dude.
(his weird attachment to Mayuri is probably why he keeps bringing Syazel back, since Syazel is Mayuri 2.0, but Syazel is the bad guy who does face consequences for his actions while Mayuri is not)
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Also, I'm certain Kazui and Orihime are going to be THRILLED that their precious husband/dad is going to hell when he dies :)
(I just... Rukia teased Ichigo about leaving Orihime at home. She teased him about having a house wife who he leaves all the chores to. Orihime had two panels. She checks on her son who promised he would be at home and sleep. Kazui fcking breaks his promise like it never mattered to him and JUMPS out the window after pretending to sleep in front of his mother. ... An 8 year old... alone... in the middle of the night.)
Orihime is abandoned. She is not invited to SS, she is not informed of what is going on, her son leaves her.... I...
Orihime is a side character. She doesn't matter anymore. She hasn't mattered for a long, long time.
A part of me is glad she had little screen time, since she tends to waste it, but another part of me is embroiled with rage.
I've even see people try to defend this. "Orihime and Ichigo can't be together ALL the time, that's an unhealthy relationship!" and I'm like guys... that's not the point. The point is Orihime is not part of Ichigo's other life. Any shinigami stuff from now on is none of her business. She's going to stay at home while Kazui and Ichigo go off and save the world. Ichigo is going to be fighting by Rukia and Renji while Orihime watches from the sidelines, or worse, doesn't even know what is going on with her husband and son. Orihime is going to be uninformed and abandoned, because she has not proven she is capable of fighting by their sides(go on, @ me. I will fight this. She's a failure.), and also because she prefers a human life over a dead one. Which is ironic, because she married a dead man. Ichigo is a shinigami, and he will be one forever. god forbid she ever meets his Zanpaktou. She would tremble in fear at the monsters her husband harbors in his soul, especially when she realizes they don't care about her and would rather see her dead. (Zangetsu would absolutely kill Orihime. Not sure about Kazui, but Orihime has not accepted Zangetsu, she does not like either of them, and the feeling is assuredly mutual.) frick now I want to make a comic about this
Also still frustrated over Zangetsu's shikai / bankai regression. Kubo once again lied to his audience. Ichigo has no bankai. How ridiculous is that? The main character of BLEACH doesn't have a bankai. Insulting.
(RIP to Chad. He doesn't exist anymore. He's just gone. No mention, no cameo. Gone.)
Kazui is a demon child. That character from the novels? Hikone? They're the same character. Literally same personality, same power level. Its worse because Kazui is a liar. He constantly goes behind his parents' backs. He can summon creepy fish and creepy eyeballs and open portals like is ANYONE aware of this? How has SS not kidnapped Ichigo's son and experimented on him / locked away his powers yet? All substitute shinigami require a reiatsu controlling / spy badge to keep them in line. Where is Kazui's? Or is he just a weird fullbringer?
I was worried Kubo was gonna try and pull a knock off Boruto but luckily he kept the focus on Ichigo and the others. But that being said, Ichika and Kazui are now just... sort of there? Kazui was kinda just.... having his own adventure that doesn't matter to the plot at hand, and Ichika had some nice characterization at first but she just hid behind her dad the whole time.
I have a feeling Kazui is gonna step in at the last minute or do some major behind the scenes thing that indirectly interferes with the main plot so no one will realize how powerful and dangerous he actually is. Its sad because Ichika is the superior character in personality and likability, but she clearly is not going to have a bigger part in this.
Ichigo having a normal life after everything still feels extremely boring and uncomfortable to me. Everyone's like 'I'm still bLEACH!" but.... BLEACH just... doesn't feel like BLEACH anymore. It hasn't for a while now.
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There's two new shinigami characters. Didn't care for the girl, but the Sign Language kid who talks to animals is adorable ... however... he just reminds me of Chad, and I just... it hurts knowing Chad has essentially been deleted. Chad and Orihime are officially benched. They have chosen the human world, and Orihime has given Ichigo his spawn so she has no more use/purpose to him anymore... ////sigh
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Also. This is claimed to be a new "arc". So is the BLEACH manga coming back? What is happening. I thought Kubo was tired and didn't want to do BLEACH anymore. I thought Shounen Jump cut him off. People made so many excuses for Kubo and why the past two arcs have been so badly written the past 6 years and now almost everything they've attempted to defend him with has been revoked.
BLEACH is going to continue to screw up its plot lines and characters, so Its probably best for it to stay dead but I've seen a lot of Kubo stans drooling over this content, they're desperate for BLEACH's return, but its already given out all its possible revelations. There's really nothing else to top here. It's just going to make things up as it goes along ,and I'm not really here for half-assed writing like that, especially since the damage of rushing the previous manga has already been done. Kubo and Shounen Jump are riding off a money nostalgia. None of this was planned.
Honestly though.... overall feeling of this chapter, not as bad as it could have been.
Syazel stole the spotlight, and he's my friend's favorite character, so that's all that really matters.
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universeinbottle · 3 years
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I mean you can complain about IchiRuki fans being toxic how you want, still the ones upset for people shipping the hell they want is you that come under reserved posts.
The more you have to complain the more you show how insecure you are about your own ship, and I can understand that, because I would feel the same if I shipped RenRuki and IchiHime, that I dislike but respect, despite the aggressive behaviour of such people, without generalizations.
Since Bleach ended till I will want, I will always say that RenRuki and IchiHime were obvious couples in a world without Rukia and Ichigo's meeting. Since then, how Kubo himself makes clear over and over in the manga, both their future changed.
You can't deny, because is simply written, that the words that Ichigo spent for Rukia were unique. And Inoue herself pointed out that, in clear words.
Now, you can tell me they were just bros, everything you want, still Rukia was the most important person for Ichigo, and vice versa. If you think that this is not a romantic suggestion, I don't know what to tell you. And if you deny that, then you have to deny also Masaki and Isshin love, that is literally the copy of Ichigo and Rukia. Kubo is not stupid, did on purpose.
One of the sad things about that horrible ending, is that is a finale in which, substantially, Rukia and Ichigo's meeting is totally cancelled.
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