#anti sysmed

[cynthicaster]

daily reminder that an identity does not need medical protection to be valued, important, and worthy of respect.

#anti transmed #anti sysmed #trans #pro endo #endo safe #fuck transmeds #fuck sysmeds

[moonpool-system]

If you think singlets can have spiritual experiences and past lives, but individual members of a plural system cannot and there must be a "psychological explanation" instead, you're literally just being ableist. You're either implying individual system members don't have enough personhood for that, or that systems are incapable of having the agency for spiritual beliefs that significantly affect our lives.

Neither is a good look.

#syscourse #vent #prism #endo safe #anti sysmed

[healingheartssociety]

Why do so many sysmeds seem to base their whole identities around the concept of pain and suffering?

One of the most common arguments we see amongst anti-endos is the idea that endos and their supporters promote this fantasy where DID/OSDD is all fun and happy. Anti-endos claim that we downplay the difficult parts of having a dissociative disorder (fragmented memory, PTSD, an altered or incomplete sense of self, etc).

But here's the thing..... endos aren't actually saying that.

Having DID/OSDD is hard, especially when you don't have access to the proper support. Nobody is denying that fact. But what's so bad about the people who have these disorders choosing to seek out the positives instead of being miserable all the time?

Anti-endos will even attack other traumagenic systems for not having the same mindset. To us, it almost feels like the people who make this argument are jealous that other plurals with DID/OSDD don't let their suffering dictate their sense of self. In fact, it even feels like these people don't even want to heal or seek help. They've become so engrossed in their misery that they can't possibly fathom the idea that others aren't also suffering 24/7. When you build your whole identity around your pain and misery, seeing anyone who doesn't think and act that way is going to make you angry and upset.

It's so incredibly easy to fall down a rabbit hole of thoughts when all you can think about is how miserable you are. That's why so many people struggle to get out of depression; it eventually becomes second nature for your brain to adopt a negative thinking pattern, and changing your thought process is unbelievably hard. This is especially true with people who have suffered abuse and/or trauma, because of the way these things impact them mentally and emotionally.

And maybe this is why so many anti-endos make the argument that our community downplays the negative aspects of having DID/OSDD. They see the plurals who have these disorders and seemingly aren't constantly suffering, and they get defensive because how DARE these systems who have the same disorder as them not be in misery all day, every day? How DARE these systems make the decision to accept the good and bad things that come with their disorders. How DARE people choose to not let their suffering define who they are.

- Blu

#pluralgang #plural system #actuallyplural #endogenic safe #pro endo #anti endos dni #sysmeds fuck off #sysmeds dni #anti sysmed #endogenic #anti endos fuck off #just some post-nap ramblings #this doesn't just apply to dissociative disorders #it can apply to literally any other disorder and the community that's been built around it

[fireboltsystem]

Literally How can you presume to know other people's brains better than the ones that live in it. "Endos all just have repressed trauma" Oh I didn't realize you were a memory holder for someone else's system /sarcasm. are you a fuckin mind reader? Were you there for the event? Or are you just projecting because the idea of plurality that's different from yours makes you uncomfortable? Let's just ignore what endogenics actually say about their experiences in favor of some shit you just made up then /sarcasm.

#syscourse #pro endo #anti sysmed #I see folks talking about how fucked up it is to imply buried trauma because of the danger; which- yes. but also #Its not just dangerous it's fucking rude. Other people's trauma is never your business unless they want to share it. #they talk like this and then turn around and say endogenics are 'taking up medical resources' #so are they secretly traumatized or not ??

[pinkdiceclub]

sysmed logic is so flawed likee "yea you can be a system but ONLY if it fits MY ideal of what a system should be like"

anyway all our love in the world goes to endogenic/nontraumagenic systems you are real and you are seen <3

#system #endogenic #pro endo #multiplicity #plural community #endo friendly #sysmeds dni #anti sysmed #plural system #plurality

[serenity-in-severances]

reveressence

<PT: reveressence /end PT>

reveressence — a xenorole for a member of a system that was formed for the purpose of another member or multiple other members worshiping or otherwise being devoted to them in some capacity.

This term can be considered a standalone role, an internal relationship descriptor, or both.

flag:

etymology:

 rever — from the word "reverence"; meaning "to show deep respect for someone or something."

essence — the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially something abstract, that determines its character.

(Anyone can use this term, but we'd prefer not to be interacted with by those who exclude endogenic systems, thank you for respecting our boundaries).

<PT: (Anyone can use this term, but we'd prefer not to be interacted with by those who exclude endogenic systems, thank you for respecting our boundaries). /end PT>

#reveressence #xenorole #alter roles #role coining #our coining #system coining #endo safe #plural terms #anti sysmed #pro endo #anyone can use #systerms

[silly-little-bagelbox]

Multikósmo

Definition:

A term that only describes a highly complex headspace/innerworld (ex: lots of layers, realms, etc). Can be described as reminiscent of Polyfragmented system’s headspace. You do not need to be Polyfragmented to use this term.

Flag meaning:

Rainbow stripes = Complexity and variety

Purple shades stripes = Represent mystery in a spectrum. Purple represents not being able to understand your headspace fully, because many parts are still a mystery due to complexity. Light purple being able to understand your headspace fully.

Black stripes = Being proud of the complexity and knowing the headspace is there.

Name meanings:

Multi = Short for multiplex which can be used to describe something complicated and complex

Kósmo = Short for Kósmos (just removed the s). Greek for “World”.

#Plurality coining #plurality terms #headspace terms #complex headspace #plurality #anti endos fuck off #anti endos dni #anti sysmed #Term coining #actually plural #Multikósmo

[cheesecake-the-chicken]

i’m actually SO mad i think i deleted my post instead of posting it 😭😭😭

i had an anon ask what i did when questioning if i’m a system since they believe they might be. i’m so sorry for accidentally deleting your ask, i hope you see this!

basically i knew from therapy that i had some “identity fragmenting” due to trauma-caused dissociation (even though i kept trying to insist i wasn’t plural 😭) i knew i wasn’t a full-fledged system like my friends with DID, but things weren’t like how they were before. all i had for my google searches was then “trauma dissociation identity fragmenting help” 😭

then i found pluralpedia and looked through a bunch of random pages/terms until i found median and i was like GUYS!! THEY WROTE THIS ABOUT US!!!!

from there i had a better keyword for research. obviously don’t use tumblr as a dsm-5 and take everything online with a grain of salt, but hearing experiences and advice from others really helped. this is something more specific to me but i also researched the theory of structural dissociation to help me better understand things:

https://www.nataliarachel.com/trauma/trauma-and-fragmentation#:~:text=When%20a%20person%20experiences%20severe,space%20for%20expression%20is%20provided.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4579498/#:~:text=Patients%20with%20structural%20dissociation%20of,concepts%20of%20self%20and%20relationships.

as for personal experience, i can’t share too much of that but i was very generously given advice/experience similar to mine here!:

i know this stuff can be really scary and overwhelming, take things as slow as you need to! it’s not a race and everyone’s experience really is different. it was super brave and cool of you to submit an ask, and i wish you luck in figuring things out. take care!!

#cheesecake’s perch #system #multiplicity #pluralgang #plural culture #actually plural #plural community #plural system #pluralistic #plurality #anti sysmed #anti syscourse #sysmeds dni #syscourse dni #endo safe #endo friendly #actually median #median system #traumagenic system #dissociative system #dissociation #depersonalization

[luxraysyscourse]

My experience on both sides of syscourse.

Pre syscourse/context

When I realized I was a system, I did hide it for years. I realized about 11 when I saw systems online and realized I personally related to a lot of their experiences. Especially the way they acted, the way they would interact with themselves. For years, I believed everyone had other 'people' or thought processes not of their own. That they could disappear when they were stressed. I know now that's not true, and only in 2020 did I really start getting into syscourse.

Pro Endo

I was pro endo for a few years, and I was a pretty vocal person about it. I was Pro Everything that wasn't illegal, and I was under the impression that as a concept it was harmless. But, being in the community I saw alot of flaws, I saw toxicity within the community. I was fakeclaimed and as a system we labeled ourselves as simply quoigenic and willogenic, as a way to repress our truama, with many people at the time insisting we were more than that, many saying we were "pokegenic" and "autigenic", and even some saying we were "Hospigenic" due to our childhood in the hospital. This made us sot ourselves down and look at ourselves and genuinely question "What are we". We witnessed our friends attempt con convince our singlet friends they were systems, our traumagenic friends that they weren't truamagenic. We personally saw people in our servers try and dox the truamagenic systems who didn't adopt labels, purely because of that. It was something that concerned us. After year we switched our veiw. We decided we didn't want to be associated with such a community, one that attempted for force labels onto people, so we switched our veiw.

Endo neutral

In mid 2021 I moved to a center, We didn't want to associate with the endogenic community, but didn't hate them, overall this was a nice place, it wasn't horrid. But again, similar issues arose, people within it constantly escalated arguments on the front of being an unbiased party. I noticed many many of them tended to circulate harmful rhetoric, especially against POC who spoke against them as a person if they happened to be a system , they went after them as people, their race, and things they held dear. This community was the shortest in terms of associating with it. Something That was unique to it was exactly how they dealt wit syscourse, they had contradictory opinions, many times, one example being endo neutral but anti nondisordered. I left after 6 months, it was full of people hopping between " I don't touch syscourse" and doing it untagged in 3 minutes, honestly it was the most stressful.

Anti Endo

We personally did a bit more research, realizing alot of things, but also again, wanted to no associate with either while staying in the syscourse circles, of course they had their issues, but we noticed that they would, rather than encourage it as the previous had, many shut it down when they could. I found friends here, who actually protected me, though many we're relentless. It made it harder to find spaces in the community where we could talk peacefully about our day-day life without being met with comments about our stance or hatred in our inbox, but out of that on discords, again, they were nice, unlike pro and neu who'd force syscourse onto you, antis encourage taking breaks. Now we acknowledge it does have its issues; being very adamant and unable to back down, I'll admit we're guilty of this as well. Being in this community has made us feel safer. Again, though, an issue is here, anti self diagnosis runs rampant, along with the idea you know exactly who you are. When we realized we were mixed, we had a few anons yell at us for "race faking".

Conclusion

As an entity, the syscourse community is foul. Racism, ablism, doxxing, toxicity, and misrepresentation of arguments all run rampant on many sides of it. The pros and neu encourage ignoring your own health in order to argue your own existence. The anti has an issue of not backing down. The pros has a long history of doxxing and targeting of PoC. The neutrals use personal attacks as arguments. Overall, it's a raging battlefield of counter and cross attacks, horrible in-fighting and general ignoring and discarding of peoples boundaries to go after them. All sides have issues you must work on in order to collectively build cooperation on your points before as a whole we can actually get somewhere with this on-going discussion.

Thank you for reading and taking the time, please check me out, im trying my best, i have a few awareness posts, and i think im.worth mentioning, we mostly wrote this at 4am as we couldn't sleep due to our room being 36°f (alot lower outside) so punctuation, spelling, and grammar wont be 100%

#pro xeno origins #pro tulpa #pro endo #neutral syscourse #syscourse #endo safe #endo neutral #anti xenorigin #anti sysmed #anti endogenic #anti tulpa #pro sysmed #tulpamancy #tulpa neutral

[neuroticboyfriend]

What are sysmeds and why are they considered "bad" (or at least on DNI's) by a lot of pro endo blogs/systems?/gen q

(From a Tulpagenic system)

They're people who systems who have members that didn't exclusively form from trauma exist. They often think we're faking and invading the DID/OSDD community, spreading misinformation about the condition. That or they think we're in denial about our trauma and effectively should be forced to think we're DID/OSDD systems through ridicule and invalidation.

The term sysmed comes from the term transmed, a term to describe people who think you need to have dysphoria and to "fully" transition to be trans. They often think you also cannot be gender nonconforming and trans, especially if you're say, a butch transfem or a femme transmasc. They think people without dysphoria, who dont transition as they see fit, who are gnc as faking being trans and spreading misinformation about what being trans is. They think we're invading the trans community and deserve to be harassed out of it.

So as you can see, sysmeds and transmeds are very similar in their beliefs. Overall, they both think people with different experiences than them inherently invalidate their own experiences and are acting with malice against them. Instead of recognizing trans and plural experiences are vast and complex, they shove people into boxes, and if people refuse those boxes, they see them as a detriment to the community who need to be expunged. It's pretty awful.

For context I am a dissociative traumagenic system but also a partly deligenic system. For us that means we have a dissociative disorder, the vast majority of our members are formed from trauma, but we do have some members that came about due to some identity delusions we had (we're schizoaffective).

#asks #anon #anti sysmed #anti transmed #plurality #trans #transphobia #pluralphobia #syscourse #trans discourse #queer discourse #transmedicalism #sysmedicalism #sanism #ableism #pro endo #pro endogenic #endogenic #traumagenic #schizoaffective #endogenic system #traumagenic system #traumatized #actually traumatized #actually psychotic #actually plural #schizospec #psychosis #actually dissociative #didosdd

[thehauntedcoven]

➜ ENDOGENIC SAFE SPACE ☆

“are anti endos/endo neutrals allowed here?” Yes! We respect all opinions as long as you dont affect those around you

#system stuff #did system #plural system #traumagenic system #osdd system #did stuff #system things #sysblr #endo safe #pro endo #endo friendly #endogenic #multiplicity #traumaendo #endogenic system #endo system #sysmeds dni #sysmeds fuck off #fuck sysmeds #anti sysmed #safe space #radqueer dni #actually traumagenic #traumagenic did #non traumagenic dni #traumagenic osdd

[moonpool-system]

very tired of exclusionists. I shouldn't have to check every post about my disorder by someone I don't follow to make sure they're safe and don't hate our existence before reblogging it but alas. whatre ya gonna do.

#vent #syscourse #inclusive plurality #osddid #did system #pdid system #anti sysmed

[fortheloveofpiggy]

If you’re anti endo you’re indulging in the sysmed thought process

#syscourse #fuck sysmeds #sysmeds dni #anti sysmed #sysmeds fuck off #sysmed #anti endo dni

[xaocchaos]

"the term sysmed is transphobic"

I guarantee you it is not

#pro endo #did discourse #anti sysmed #plural punk #petchricor posts

[eclipse15]

I’m gonna make an exception to my DNI on the endo thing for THIS POST ONLY, so-again THIS POST ONLY and ONLY FOR THE ENDO RULE-endos and supporters can interact because I want to hear peoples opinions on this. Do not harass us!!!

DID from a RAMCOA and TBMC survivor “sysmed” systems perspective (so many adjectives)

Hi. I’m the host of an HC-DID system. We are all, as far as I’m aware, what one might call a sysmed. Why do we believe this, and what’s our perception of DID? I’ll explain my views in this post

For us, while living does not mean misery, DID means misery, if that makes any sense. I differentiate the two because my whole life does not revolve around my DID. Anyways, our entire dissociation revolves around our programming and trauma. Even my fellow parts mean misery to me, even though I don’t hate all of them since I know it’s not some of their faults. It means misery because it means more time lost and more time where our programming takes place. Even though not all parts are brainwashed, we all have some degree of programming. We also all have some degree of amnesia.

I’d say I’m in control about 35% of our life. That’s 65% of my life gone because of this disorder, and that’s only counting when I’ve been the host. Imagine when I’m not the host anymore? I’ll be nothing, pretty much.

So, that’s my view on DID; while it doesn’t taint everything, it means misery.

That’s why for me and the rest of us (again, that I know of) having a glamorized carefree “version” of that is a result of ignorance. Being endogenic is taking away everything that DID is about.

And no, if you count “sysmeds” as a struggle, sorry but that’s nowhere near comparable to the trauma people who actually are systems experience.

#⭐️ #did alter #did osdd #osddid #actually mentally ill #hc did #polyfrag system #polyfragmented #polyfrag #pro sysmed #anti sysmed #syscource #syscourse #actually traumagenic

[serenity-in-severances]

Introject4Introject & Sourcemate4Sourcemate

Introject4Introject (int4int) — an introjected member of a system who prefers to date other introjects, whether that be from their own system or another.

Sourcemate4Sourcemate (scm4scm) — an introjected member of a system who prefers to date other introjects from their source(s), whether that be from their own system or another.

#introject4introject #sourcemate4sourcemate #system terms #int4int #scm4scm #systerms #plural terms #system coining #plural coining #pride flag #anti sysmed #sysmeds fuck off #pro endo #endo safe