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chattegeorgiana · 3 months
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Hello Chatte,
How have you been doing?
I have this thing that's been pestering me for a while now. A lot of NH defenders/shippers swear on their life that there are strong parallels between her and Kushina and it's a hill these people are willing to die on.
They love to cite examples from that god forsaken series called Boruto, where they have comical moments of Hinata being the ''scary mommy'' trope and a ''hot headed wife'' just like Kushina. This doesn't sit well with me and I just see it as SP being SP, nothing more, nothing less; and for the NH fan to be like ''ohh..... look...... there are so many parallels between MK and NH. NH was planned from the beginning. yay...... '' Those sorta BS (pardon me my French).
Also, I'd like to point out that I'm an anti ender not because of the pairing reasons but because of how the ending happened. All thanks to each and every character being nothing more than a pairing fodder, the show has left many debates as to what it's messages and themes are.
I really have zero reasons to like female characters like Sakura and Hinata but this, this is beyond character assassination and also an insult to the fan base, especially those who gave common sense and aren't blinded by pairing choice. For me how the characters are treated is way more important than shipping.
Also, when is your next YT video on Boruto being Oro's genjutsu gonna be released?
Thank for reading my somewhat lame and a long comment and I wish you the best with Kaika Saisei
Cheers!
Hi there,
Well, for the whole NH thing, the reason why they insist is because the sequel did a 180 and changed her characteristics, so ofc they are willing to die on that hill.
But we all know if we look at the actual content from the manga that she has nothing in common with Kushina nor Minato like they like to say. Kushina is loud and passionate. Where have you seen Hinata display those qualities? Whereas Minato is calm & calculated, something that she isn't once again. She's quiet & shy but that doesn't equate the calmness Minato displays. Not to mention we've seen even in this one shot that Kishi wrote that Minato can also get super passionate from time to time, whereas Hinata has never displayed that feat.
All in all for this whole thing to work they had to turn her into Sakura. It's clear as daylight to anyone who isn't a NH. Even a neutral. So why consume your energy with what they're saying? It's not like it's true. The evidence to support that is those 15 years of serialization prior to the ending that holds all the weight.
We all know TL & the other products at the end were made so that they can retcon the pre-established narrative.
The show ending the way it did basically destroyed everything Naruto once as a story stood for. Sad, but true.
I always said I wouldn't have had any issue with the choice of pairings if done correctly. After all, I used to be a multishipper once. I saw the potential that all had in the beginning. It's just that when part 2 launched, the story was clear of its direction - of course, until they decided to retcon again and to hell with everything.
And sadly, the girls got the short end of the stick. Both Hinata & Sakura, if we're being true to ourselves. But these people are ready to die on a hill just because they're so attached to their opinions rather than seeing the story for what it is - a great emotional impact story, but with a lot of issues underneath it if you put aside the emotional impact.
It's the reason why it pulls so many people into it. Because it's filled with emotional manipulation, in a way. Look at the way the franchise also directs its marketing campaigns for other materials/products. They scan the internet, see what the talk is in the fandom & then bam, there they are with their products that just so happen to have the thematic of whatever talk is in the fandom - like when they are some sort of servants because at some point NH & SS were arguing about who's richer and who's the servant and who's the patron and all kind of BS like that.
Or when we in the NaruSaku fandom had an extensive talk about tarot and the symbolism that surrounds NS and 6 months later bam, there they are with products with tarot themes.
Or that game they have and I saw two of the concepts I had for Sakura combined into a third one.
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They basically combined these two artwork concepts into the third one that is their image from the game.
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So what can I say? As you can see, Pierrot be doing whatever it is to get their way, lol.
If you think about the girls - when they thought Hinata was more profitable, they pushed her in everybody's face so much so that it affected the story's ending.
Now that Sakura's more profitable, they discarded Hinata like a used toy and she barely makes any appearances outside her mom-like persona.
This only shows anyone with a little critical thinking that SP has no respect for any characters nor the story. It's just about the $$$ and that's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
But meh, anyway, at this point is more than funny lol. It's just Pierrot being Pierrot tbh... Nothing good can be expected of that studio.
As for my next video, I'm planning on getting back to work on these somewhere in March.
Last year I've been caught up with a major life event so it really hindered my capacity to take care of everything that I wanted to do, but as I said, I'm planning on getting back to these.
It's just that I'll need to edit some things since I initially envisioned it in a certain way and there are certain changes that happened in the meantime, that kind of rendered some of the things I worked on obsolete, so I'm trying to adjust to that. But yeah, as soon as I have everything up and running again, I'll definitely start working on it.
And aah dear, don't worry, your question was not lame! Thank you for dropping into my inbox and for your wishes regarding Kaika!
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lolalola-universe · 2 years
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FICS FOR SASUKE LOVERS (III PART)
 (The two previous entries can be found here and here
Okay, I reaaallly wanted to publish this list back in Oct 3 (Naruto Anime’s 20 Anniversary) or Oct 10, but real life is a bitch so I decided to wait until today, November 8. In other words, it′s Kishimoto’s birthday! Happy birthday man, you piss me off horribly, but you created Sasuke so I cannot be too mad at you.
Now, without further ado, here is the new list.
Justice ≠ Peace by Aaonnah (https://archiveofourown.org/works/12194697) Sasuke decides to run, run very far.
winter sun by sssrha (https://archiveofourown.org/works/18977182)
An Idle Path by strid (https://archiveofourown.org/works/24690367) Amazingly dark and creepy.
Indrajit by Tartarun (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13712919/1/Indrajit) Tired of fics that portray Indra as this super arrogant, envidious Bijuu hater? I know I am.
uproot by Anonymous (https://archiveofourown.org/works/34640626/chapters/87109879) A good-feel fic full of Team Hebi/Taka and its revolutionary shenanigans.
Days of the week by ismellitblue (https://archiveofourown.org/works/37498084) The Uchiha Clan survived the massacre... in a way.
Justice by bojackandcrying (https://archiveofourown.org/works/39137088) A short one-shot in where Karin and Sasuke bond, with the former validating Sasuke’s rightful rage and sadness, and his right to grieve.
Sasuke's Revolution by sasukeoftherinnegan (https://archiveofourown.org/works/40519650/chapters/101513700) After the final fight, Sasuke still doesn’t give up on his right to justice. Not Kakashi friendly. SNS.
Oh, Father Tell Me, Do We Get What We Deserve? by Vinauer (https://archiveofourown.org/works/25856248/chapters/62821729) What would have happened, If Team 7 had caught up to Sasuke after his fight with Itachi, before Obito would get to him? No very Naruto or Team 7 friendly.
let vengeance prevail (so long as it's not mine) by RecklessWriter (https://archiveofourown.org/works/42127929) Why did Shikamaru get supported on his quest on revenge, but not Sasuke?
Restore My Faith by onepieceofharry (https://archiveofourown.org/works/31550897/chapters/78057407) Sasuke finds a little baby Uchiha in a mission. Both heartwarming and heart-breaking.
Naruto: Romance, Politics, and the Uchiha Problem by Daastan_Go (https://archiveofourown.org/works/39144879/chapters/97932942) A meta piece that verbally bitch-slaps everyone in canon sans Sasuke. No recommended for ride-and-die Incel- I mean Naruto, Sakura, Itachi, Hinata, Tobirama and Kakashi fans!
                          ...And don’t worry, I’ll keep updating this list....
I may not agree with all these writers say, either on these fics or in their other works, but all of them have one thing in common: they give Sasuke the love he deserves.
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uzumaki-sayuri · 1 year
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"SaKuRa DeSeRvEd BeTtEr"
After she harassed and guilty tripped Sasuke since FOREVER despite him telling her clearly more than once that nor he loves her nor he has a reason to, because that's true seen how ugly she has behaved towards him.
Look I'm a fan of Sakura and also NaruSaku, I also love Naruto and Sasuke as individuals, but let's keep her accountable for the bad things she too has done.
Sasuke doesn't love her. And him staying away from someone who has EXHAUSTED him into a one-sided relationship is fair and also a consequence of Sakura's action, simple as that.
Sorry anon but I gotta disagree. Sakura has her problems but she's still one of the most morally virtuous characters in the manga. Having Sasuke- a boy grieving over his lost family- actually abandon his wife/child in adulthood is exceptionally tragic. Don't know how long you've been following me but I've made more than a couple vent posts about the way Kishi writes women specifically, and the outrageously sexist ending he wrote for them. My lil' flowers deserved way better T.T
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watermelonsloth · 3 months
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I think the reason why Naruto fans get so passionate and upset about the series is because of how real it can be. Naruto isn’t about paragon heroes outdoing dastardly villains. It’s about human beings fighting tooth and nail to survive in a world surrounded by death. It’s about broken systems made and perpetuated by broken people.
The Hyuga clan isn’t just antagonistic or pretentious, they practice slavery.
The Uchiha clan weren’t just killed by some raging psychopath, they were systematically massacred.
Itachi isn’t just cruel to Sasuke because he’s a bad brother, he’s cruel because he’d been told time and time again that you can only survive by being cruel and he wants nothing more than for Sasuke to survive.
Nagato isn’t trying to take over the world just for the sake of power, he’s trying to take over the world because it beat him down to the point of believing that the only chance at peace there is is the world being forced into compliance through fear.
Iruka isn’t hard on Naruto just because he’s a strict teacher, he’s hard on Naruto because he knows from experience how unforgiving the world is towards orphans.
Kakashi isn’t just some silly and slightly lazy teacher, he’s a contract killer still grieving his loved ones and struggling to do better without knowing how he’s supposed to.
Sakura isn’t just a fangirl, she’s a normal girl in a very dangerous and abnormal world constantly being made to choose between what she’s supposed to do and what she feels.
Sasuke isn’t just some edgelord, he’s a survivor who lost everything then gets repeatedly told that he has to choose between keeping what he’s gained and doing better than his brother.
Naruto isn’t just trying to be the best Hokage there ever was, he’s trying to prove his worth to a society that abandoned him just for existing and, in a way, confirm his worth to himself.
The Naruto story is about humans trying to force themselves into the role of weapons because that’s what they were told they had to be. It’s a story where everyone is a perpetrator but no one is trying to do wrong. It’s a story where everyone is a victim but no one is a perfect victim.
The world and the characters aren’t simple and trying to simplify them only takes away from them. So of course we get passionate about showing off all the reasons why they shouldn’t be simplified and all of the ways they’re complicated. Of course we get upset when we see others simplifying them or selling certain aspects of their characters short. Of course we get upset when the series itself simplifies them. Of course we get upset when the series chooses to abandon them. Because it not only feels like the characters are giving up, it feels like the series is betraying anyone who chose to get invested in its complexities.
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meowmada · 5 months
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Nothing just this
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ana-thinks-too-much · 3 months
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Can't blame Naruto for looking like that in Boruto, if I had to pretend to be straight I'd also look like shit
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cupcakesandfries · 2 years
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What I think about when people ask what happens in Naruto
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bimgtt · 6 months
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True Uchiha clan not that bulshite shown in the Boruto series so called fake Uchiha pathetic historically ignorant family( Sakura and Sarada who treat clan crest some sort of ornaments or achievements or trophy to brag about or show off for them without knowing its struggle and past history and how you get to wear it) or how the story tries to revise Uchiha tragedy and the oppression and racism against the Uchiha collectively.
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abattre · 3 months
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I find it sad that the Naruto series ended with absolutely no improvement to the Shinobi system and just a return to the pretty abysmal status quo. I find it even sadder that a large majority of the fan base take it as a face value happy ending because their favourite characters got married, and just ignore how none of the criticisms of Shinobi society brought up throughout the story have any meaningful resolution.
This is, in large part, because of Kishimoto's pivot into deciding friendship is somehow the solution to all problems despite showing repeatedly throughout the story how friendship is never enough to foster substantial change because of how fucked up everything is. Like,,, when confronted with the fact that genocide, child exploitation, slavery, and human experimentation were the common place practices for villages it's actually kind of insane to push the notion that the victims of these crimes should be magnanimous towards the people that abused them so horrifically; it is, frankly, ridiculously insulting to proclaim that being justifiably angry about their oppression means they are 'falling into darkness' because that is also, for some reason, a thing.
There are literally no consequences for all the genuinely evil things the people in power were doing for generations, everything is just brushed aside on the whim of friendship and forgiveness and that's just so appalling. There is no justice for the people who have suffered so terribly because of the villages. Are they just expected to move on while these horrible people walk free? They're supposed to be okay with historically corrupt and depraved people remaining in power? Like what the fuck.
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heidiikm · 1 month
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Thinking about how sad the end to Sasuke’s story is and how his grief and anger is minimised.
Rewatching parts of Naruto and seeing Naruto declaring to sasuke to put all of his hatred onto him and that he’s the only one that can take it is actually so strange. Don’t get me wrong this isn’t hate for his character (okay maybe mild hate because he does do a lot wrong, but so do most Naruto characters and I’m not here to get into that rn). It’s just I find it kind of off… (I know people use this moment as a great sns scene and I have no hate against that ship! This is nothing to do with sns) Sasuke’s grief for his clan and deep seated anger at the village and world is beyond valid. Naruto’s declaration feels slightly entitled? I understand they were friends for a bit and went through a lot together during the short time they were a team and how sasuke is one of Naruto’s first proper connections so it’s all very important to him and so on. It’s just… this isn’t about him? He’s got nothing to do with this? I know it’s about trying to “help” sasuke who is self destructing to get revenge and justice. I’ve spoken before how this fandom compares characters’ traumas a lot and how that’s odd, including how Naruto doesn’t compare to sasuke - both had truly dreadful childhoods, I just think they’re two different traumas and whilst both lonely, are lonely in different ways and for different reasons. And also sasuke is so much more than just lonely. Naruto doesn’t understand Sasuke’s trauma and doesn’t understand his anger. The whole of team 7 disregarded his grief and trauma. At the end of the show Naruto fails to give the Uchiha any justice as hokage and sasuke is manipulated into believing he needs to “repent” and to protect the village. It’s such a sad story. I could say a lot more and this isn’t well articulated at all but anyways… if people disagree or have another interpretation I’d love to hear!
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Everything Naruhina has, they stole from Narusasu.
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nardo-headcanons · 8 months
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How I would fix Itachi Uchiha
Feel free to request this for other characters or ask worldbuilding questions.
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Have him not torture Sasuke in his Tsukuyomi. Seeing Itachi alone would be so retraumatizing to Sasuke to send him into a Panic attack.
Show him STRUGGLING. Even if it’s just a smidge.
Show the weight of his “decision” on his shoulders. Even pre reveal.
Put emphasis on the manipulation from Konoha and the root organization and how he didn’t actually have a choice in the slightest.
Give us more insight on his illness and what he did to fight it.
Make him REGRET what he did. At the very latest after he gets reanimated by Kabuto.
Show us his wants, needs and dreams. What lead him to make the decision that he ended up making?
Point out the flaws in his thinking and flesh it out: He thought that the only way to make it in the shinobi world is to become incredibly strong so others are too afraid to fight you.
Itachi is a tragic character, let’s write him like one.
Feel free to use these in headcanons, fics, etc. Tag or dm me so I can read em!
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akatsukitrash · 1 month
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I love how Kishimoto tried to convince us that Kyuubi's storyline is done and his problems are solved when his main problem since the first time he speaks is that he lost his freedom and wants it back. And he doesnt get it back in the ending. Hes literally still a prisoner inside Naruto, having his chakra used in battles that dont concern him.
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uzumaki-sayuri · 1 year
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Nahhh girl, I really think Sakura has some mistakes upon her too and you guys should held her accountable for them regardless of her gender, if you really are a fan of hers.
Sasuke is in the wrong for abandoning his "wife" and child, but then Sakura shouldn't have harassed him to the world's end if she wanted him to at least hold some little respect for her.
Put this situation on reverse: the girl on Sasuke's place and the boy on Sakura's, you wouldn't say the shit you're saying right now.
She's someone selfish, egotistical and narcissistic who has no respect for other peoples' feelings (especially Sasuke's) and that's okay, not everyone is perfect.
Just like every other character in the serie, she has her share of faults too and it's fine to acknowledge them.
You think Sakura...a doctor...who created her own orphanage... has no respect for other peoples' feelings? Narcissistic? What manga did you read? Sorry anon but I'm still putting a lot of blame & shame on Sasuke here. Nothing to do with me being sexist. Even if you think Sakura deserves to be abandoned Sarada doesn't.
<3 Peace and Love
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ilbenmalpensanteus · 1 year
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I can’t.
Sas talking with neutral pronouns about the general shitty situation, hinting that without Naruto they can’t win
Naruto using the first person like: “fuck the world, without you I am lost, teme”
Aaaaah this boy is so in love
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whitelilynh · 6 months
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Just feel so stupid to realise, thanks to current real life events, that Naruto really talk-no-Jutsu-ed me FOR YEARS into Konoha's propaganda.
Like, what they did to Itachi and Sasuke was monstruos, what they did to Uchiha clan was a complete and unjustified crime.
Was Konoha justified to suspect the Uchiha after a Sharingan-manipulated Kyubi attacked them? Yes, ofc. Was it a justification for a full apartheid regime that lead to a genocide? Fuck NO!
Although Konoha didn't knew Obito was still alive, hence the possibilities, according to them, reduced to the Uchiha (and Kakashi, why nobody mentions Kakashi?), instead of the racist segregation they conduced they should have, Idk, do a freaking proper investigation?
Like, oh, a Sharingan user took advantage of the debilitation of the seal because of Kushina giving birth, it must had been an Uchiha. Well, how many Uchihas actually knew the seal was getting weaker during labor? How many of them knew *when* was Kushina going to give birth? And how many of them knew *where* btw? Reduce the list to those. Include Kakashi, if he knew.
And to those, investigate, survey, and all your shit.
But why to assume a whole freaking clan that lives in peace under the supposed protection of the village would want to destroy it?
And yet, Konoha is all prideful thinking they are better. They are no freaking better. They still saw the Kyubi and it's jinchuriki as nothing but a weapon, they didn't care at all about Naruto's well being and feelings, even though he was the son of the previous Hokage, even though he was actually made a Jinchuriki and became an orphan precisely to protect the freaking village (I'm looking at you Hiruzen, I hate you!).
And on top of that, freaking Konoha took advantage of a poor 13yo boy whose love for the village divided his consciousness, to f*cking force him to kill his entire clan for them, then threw him away and hunted him as a dog, criminalise and vilify him.
And never freaking cared about Sasuke, never explained a thing to him. They even tried to blame Sasuke for not blindly believing their propaganda.
Did Konoha ever realise *they* created Sasuke?
I know Naruto fell for Konoha's propaganda, and I know the whole village wasn't to blame, but the leaders. But somehow, Sasuke should have received a sort of repair, Idk, to tell the truth about his family at least, for the world to know. For the innocents to know, and to pay respect to the deceased clan.
But instead, Sasuke got guilt tripped into serving the masters that destroyed his whole people.
A masterfully done work of propaganda.
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