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#edited to add some more details bc these are all intriguing…if any of you get your nose on these you must report back!!
contrappostoes · 4 months
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any new perfumes to share with us? :)
none that I've tried, but I have a few I recently bookmarked that have caught my eye!
🍜 pho breakfast, d'annam - entire line is intriguing but I need to get my nose on this one (and the vietnamese coffee scent! maybe for summer 🤞). meant to evoke the spices and herbs of beef pho…this is my kind of gourmand
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🌻 chelsea staircase, thin wild mercury - will be saving for the new york city discovery set of course 😌 inspired by the old chelsea hotel. i’ve heard great things about this set and i love the smell of stretched canvas so i’m curious to see how these notes all work together
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📜 spell 125, papillon artisan perfumes – the ambergris gives me pause but as a huge fan of serious and cerebral piney woody fragrances I think I’d love this. “The longest spell in the ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead, Spell 125 covers the ceremonial process of crossing the underworld to reach the afterlife, including the famous weighing of the heart ceremony, where only a feather-light heart would pass the God’s test.”
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🐎 rotano, maison d'etto – meant to evoke the scent of horses, tack, and and barns…”bold leather and woody fragrance. Sensuous, opulent notes of cedarwood, leather and stallion.” yes pleaseee
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irrealisms · 3 months
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hi! i just saw an old post of yours regarding a very indepth s4 youtube playlist and i'm intrigued! i know the basic stuff since i watched some streams around that time but i've been meaning to finally sit and watch s4 from beginning to end. would you be so kind as to drop a link? thank you :]
gonna assume you mean lifesteal (i also have a dsmp s4 playlist haha. i love Making Playlists. love to Curate) and i've actually got a few lifesteal playlists! well. sort of. i have like One in-depth playlist and then i've got Other People's Playlists
so the first thing i recommend which has every* lifesteal s4 edited video (no** VODs) is this playlist by @aroaceacacia -- it's how i got into lifesteal to begin with and i cannot recommend it highly enough. when you finish, keep an eye on zam's youtube channel, i believe he is the only one still editing his s4 & his finale should be coming out soon (a year late) lmaoooo * it is actually missing one video, but it's near the end + it DOES the behind the scenes for that video so it's easy to add in ** technically it's got one (1) 2-hour cut from a Subz VOD which is more VOD-like and less of a Highly Edited Short Video but p much all the rest of the 285 videos are more highly-edited official-yt-channel VideosTM, and even the Subz VOD is a cut from a 24-hour stream rather than the full thing.
unfortunately i don't know of any curated VOD playlists or overviews that cover the beginning of the season, by me or by anyone else--I might work on this at some point but rn unfortunately i haven't actually watched much early s4 :( although if you want, send me a follow-up ask and i'll do my best at a "major events" playlist, mixing edited videos (esp early-season where i havent Watched the VODs) with particularly important VODs for the stuff i Have seen? this would b p easy for me to make i just havent bc i didn't know if there would b interest. ive also been working on a timeline google doc covering all of s4 that includes both VODs and edited videos so, again, lmk if you're interested in that!
the second thing i recommend is this google doc by @myrmica , which starts covering things in detail in december 2022 and has super detailed notes for a BUNCH of VODs. absolutely invaluable resource. my primary recommendation if you want to watch vods from mid to late s4 is to just read this doc and add all the vods that look interesting to your personal playlist.
in terms of in-depth playlists i have, the main one i have is an eclipse federation playlist! it's got a couple vods or cut-down videos of pre-eclipse-fed for some context but mostly it covers eclipse federation's journeys from their formation to the end of the server. i skipped some streams that were just grinding or destroying end portals or similar but if you want those also you can go through the myrmica google doc. NOTE: this ONLY covers eclipse federation!!! and it covers them in pretty close detail!!!! things that get left out of this include stuff like most of the preparations for pangi & zam's god-off, 3ht's trap war, a lot of poopies shenanigans, the team awesome breakup, and of course everything that happened in the Several Months before eclipse federation formed.... basically anything that wasn't relevant to eclipse federation's journey. meanwhile there are multiple 4-hour VODs that are just zam thinking about his relationship problems and nothing rly happens. i honestly would not recommend this unless you are specifically looking for more detail on eclipse federation specifically lol. also i wasn't sure how to handle "there are 2-3 streams of the same events with different povs that have some nonoverlap and some overlap" so...sometimes i include both povs and sometimes i dont. it's a judgement call & i highly recommend going thru the myrmica google doc and making your own playlist--all the vods in this playlist are also on there, eclipse federation didn't Form until mid season 4 so all eclipse-federation-relevant streams are covered
also i've linked this before but ive got a more medium-length eclipse fed playlist that mixes VODs & edited videos so check that out if you want
and of course where would any of us be without the archivist VOD spreadsheet. not super useful if youre looking for Curated Playlists but i need to shout out archivists forever & ever
i've also got much less in-depth playlists of Just Edited Videos for stuff like s4 highlights, covering specific teams/storylines, etc but since you said you were interested in in-depth playlists im not going to link all those unless you ask, this post is already long enough as it is haha. im also maintaining a s5 edited videos playlist if youre interested in that, and ive got links to playlists of s1-3! so just ask if you want any of those
huge apologies if this was overwhelming! u activated my Autism Trap Card (i love playlist curation). & pls pls feel free to send another ask/message/whatever if you have any questions or are curious abt anything else or if you want anything else (i love playlist curation)
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oviids · 4 years
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pls share some of your spn fic recs 🥺🥺
ok, a few things first:
followers and mutuals who do not have supernatural brainworms, kindly avert your eyes
i don’t normally rec or even read much fanfic any more but this is a CRISIS ok (cont.)
there is so. much. content for deancas out there and i have incredibly high standards, several ancient ao3 bookmarks, can speedread, and want to spare you guys the experience of wading through it all.
i also have a section for spn femslash since I was pretty into that back in the day (sadly a lot less fan content for this :/)
I don’t really like au’s or pure smut (I honestly usually just skim or skip those scenes) so if you’re mainly looking for that kind of thing this probably won’t be very helpful to you. jsyk.
i’m not great at describing stuff but i’ll do my best, i’ll also try and add tw’s when neccesary.
i wil try and keep updating this with any other decent fics i find, feel free to rec stuff too since i’m like 7 years behind.(edit 1/25/21) this is getting looooong so i’m going to start making another list on my spn blog rather than update this one
(edit 1/3/21) since this has gotten pretty long i’ve added rating/approximate word counts and marked my particular favorites with an asterisk.
Dean/Cas fic:
So Says The Sword*** - explicit/85k. FUCK its good...au/time travel where dean is not pulled out of hell by cas and says yes to becoming the michael sword. honestly could serve as an alternative to actually watching the show, if you want to get into dean/cas without actually doing that to yourself.
Fata morgana.*  - teen/6k, pst s9 finale. very bela centric and i love it, she finds cas looking for dean in hell.
Redemption Road -misc/600+k. an incredibly long fic from a collaborative writing group back in the day. canon divergent from the end of s6 on, has a cool take on godstiel and the leviathans, as well as the lovecratian mythos connection. ngl when i reread it i only made it about 28% in but imo the casual reader can actually stop around there, the rest concerns a lovecraftian apocalypse that is still good (i think i don’t remember it very well) but not required to enjoy the first half. if you prefer i have an ebook version i can send you on gdrive.
Someone Who's Feeling For Me* - mature/45k, s12. they run into lisa braeden and dean thinks cas is into her while cas thinks dean still likes her. treats lisa way better than the show ever did and the miscommunication is pretty funny rather than annoying.
a turn of the earth - mature/95k. time travel fic where cas from s10 keeps showing up in deans life from a few years before s1 to right before the hellhounds take his soul.  slow burn, good character study, and at one point cas punches the dad in the face and it rules.
On the Wings of War - teen/85k, canon divergent s5. dean accidentally becomes the Horseman of War. plays fun, fast and loose with biblical lore, michael has some rights.
Named - mature/95k, alternate s5. EXTREMELY blasphemous in a fun sexy way. manages to predict metatron almost to a T. there’s one major character death and its literally jesus christ, everyone is very sad about it and it sets the rest of the story rolling. an alternate interpretation of cas’ mission to raise dean from hell which had me on the floor. ngl its kind of misogynistic at points, but its from 2010 and tracks with late oughts-2010 spn (sorry anna the author did you dirty here:/).
The Girlfriend Experience - explicit/15k. uhhh i don’t normally rec or even read smutty stuff unless someone i know is specifically asking for it but this has stuff like sam trying to be a good ally and dean thinking holding hands with cas is ‘kinda gay :/’ minutes after having gay sex with him.
i crippled your heart a hundred times - explicit/19k, s8. cas confesses his feelings and dean spends a long time getting his head out of his ass about it. truly hits different after the actual confession, despite being written six years early it feels like its actually what could have gone down more or less if the writers weren’t talentless demons who hate us.
My Roots Take Flight** - mature/125k. reverse au where cas is a hunter and dean’s an angel...OR IS IT???? an alternate retelling of s4. tw for briefly being set in a psychiatric hospital/the hospital being mentioned somewhat frequently throughout the fic, plus more references to torture in hell and heaven than usual.
The One Thing You Can't Lose* - teen/4k.you know those posts about how cas is a super-strong super-tough ancient warrior but he just lets dean tug him around because he likes it? thats it thats the fic.
Hands, From Which All Things Are Built - teen/14k, post s8′s ‘goodbye stranger.’ cas is on the run with the angel tablet but keeps in touch with sam and dean by text, he and dean still manage to be terrible at Actual communication.
Autrement, Danger - or, The Account of an Exceedingly Long Day - mature/30k, post s11. a monster that takes the appearance of your soulmate leads to some wild miscommunications and dealing with years of repression, also dean gets to see cas’ true form which is always cool. tw for non-graphic mentions of underage sexual assault/sex work.
Down to Agincourt - mature/explicit/900++++k, endverse continuation. endverse!cas survives his encounter with lucifer and discovers another time-displaced dean from s7. i’ve only read the two of four parts but its really good, veeeeery slow burn, has a lot of fun oc’s and takes a rather surprising but (imo) entertaining and intriguing turn into Hellenic history and mythology. usual tw’s for endverse/endverse!cas but nothing graphic, it’s actually pretty light-hearted (relatively speaking of course).
Nothing Equals the Splendor** - explicit/8k, THEE finale fix it fic you’ve been waiting for! posits that the entire final episode was just a (very bad and lame) djinn’s vision.
like moses and batman and james dean - explicit/31k, post s8. explores dean’s trauma and internalized homophoba from his technically canon experience with sex work and its impact on his relationship with cas. the sex work itself isn’t really shown in any detail but it’s still a relatively heavy fic.
Crazy Diamonds - explicit/25k, s4/alternate s14. fresh-out-of-hell dean and dean from 10 years in the future are displaced from time and sent to each other’s present.
where the weeds take root - explicit/30k. au where the men of letters kick them out of the bunker and they accidentally move out into the country, get over their codependence and semi retire. featuring chicken coop building, sam volunteering at a dog shelter, gardening, and blissfully mundane domesticity.
No Resting Place - teen/6k. djinn dream fic, switches back and forth between cas’ dream of being married to dean and retired from hunting to the aftermath when he wakes up. tw for brief mention of suicide since, y’know, djinn dream.
any port in a storm - mature/52k. post s8 finale. cas and dean have to pose as a couple going through a rough patch for a case and actually deal with their emotional baggage, cas struggles with being human and metatron is up to stuff.
all this and heaven too* - explicit/7k. in the author’s own words ‘...a love letter to every trans person who ever projected onto Dean Winchester.’ absolutely unzipped me emotionally and theologically, its just. so good. tw for very brief mentions of internalized transphobia/dysphoria.
Because it is* - mature/6k, finale fix it. killing chuck does not bring back anyone back and the winchesters spend a very long time dealing with what they’ve lost, cas and dean SOMEHOW still manage to have signifigant communication issues even after the confession. tw for suicidal thoughts/brief attempt.
Vena Amoris and Other Old-Fashioned Bullshit* - teen/4k, s6. when cas fell for dean it automatically soulbonded/angel married them, shenanigans ensue when dean finds out during the angel’s civil war. funny and actually written back when s6 was airing so cas is still (or at least pretending to be) kind of an OP asshole which is fun.
Rinse, Repeat - teen/3k, s8. angsty character study of cas as he’s reprogrammed and trained to kill dean. not really dean/cas since its just cas’ pov of canon events but its beautifully written and ends with him snapping out of it through the power of love (also now a canon event!).
Emergence - explicit/59k, canon divergent after s11. dean meets a hunter he only recognizes as their friend claire novak’s missing father, but soon realizes he might be the answer behind the mysterious void in his memories and feelings (aka everyone’s memories of cas are completely wiped away for three years).
Cuckoo And Nest - explicit/10k, early established relationship/character study, cas tries to figure out how he fits into dean’s life and space in the bunker.
Build a Home* - teen/20k, canon divergent s12. sam and eileen are cute and turn the bunker into men of letters/hunters hq and everyone but cas moves in, mutual miscommunication issues and pining ensues.
Down in the River - teen/5k, early s8, cas prays to dean in purgatory while sam and dean try to figure out a way to get him out.
Teaching Poetry to Fish* - mature/52k, ?? BC through the entire series/canon divergent s14 and 15. retelling of crucial scenes throughout the shows timeline from cas’ pov, feat. actual fish and poetry.
the minor fall, the major lift - gen/4k, post confession/finale fixit. dean goes into the empty to save cas and runs into several old friends (and enemies).
With the Kisses of His Mouth* - teen/3k, gen later seasons. dean and cas keep kissing by accident.
Remaining Grace - explicit/109k, alternate s6. au where cas asks dean for help with raphael and dean, of course, does. tw for temporary major character death/semi-graphic depictions of alcohol withdrawal.
The face of heaven.* - teen/10k, au, dean is a regular guy and cas is a fallen star (think ‘stardust’, kinda).
Stories Are Made of Mistakes*  - teen/5k. newly human cas has trouble getting used to a human body and humanity in general, but still figures out that he and dean are A Thing before dean does.
Hurry Up And Wait - mature/21k, canon divergent s12. a fairyland and quite possibly LOTR related case comes up and dean goes full fanboy, mary is introduced to the wonders of the peter jackson adaptions, many references and comparisons (including between cas and dean’s ‘friendship’ and arwen/aragon). also charle is still alive and has just been doing fairy stuff this whole time.
There Are Many Things - explicit/28k, s9. cas is extremely lonely/touch-starved and trying to figure out this whole human thing, as well as where he and dean stand after being kicked out of the bunker.
It's A Long Life to Always Be Longing - teen/40k, post s11 finale. amara helps dean by putting him in a magical coma so he can finally get some much needed rest and show him possible futures for him, sam and cas. meanwhile sam and cas go on a roadtrip (or several) to find componets for a spell to wake dean up. really good sam and cas friendship, they actually talk about their shared lucifer trauma and stuff.
Non-Photo Blue - gen/2k, s4/5/alternate s5. fifty moments from cas’ memories of dean.
Tall Grass - explicit/57k, canon divergent post series. cas becomes the ultimate plant dad. feat the wayward sisters gang, cathartic character growth, fun oc’s, domesticity, and lots of actual botanical info-dumping.
on vessels - no rating/gen/2k. established dean/cas, cas tells dean about how he used to imagine what it would be like to have him as his vessel.
search for tomorrow on every shore* - teen/11k, post-finale (extremely derogatory). some angels in jack’s new heaven act out and dean gets temporarily resurrected in 2003 and runs into his younger self.
Architecture of the Minotaur’s Heart - explicit/45k, very canon divergent post s1. dean’s new house seems to have a life and mind of its own, while in his dreams he sees glimpses of a world and apocalypse that never came to be and an angel that looks strangely like his mysterious neighbor, cas. loosely inspired by the book house of leaves (which i highly recommend for fans of weird horror).
The Distance Of The Setting Sun - explicit/17k, post s5. established dean/cas relationship, team free will finally takes advantage of cas’ abilities to go on vacation around the world.
diamond star halo - teen/5k, s11. dean lets cas use him as a temporary vessel while he recovers from rowena’s spell, sam is a long-suffering third-wheel.
Make Known** - teen/16k, s6/7. dean struggles to understand how cas could have become his enemy and whether he ever truly knew him in the first place.
blunt little instrument* - mature/1.4k, post finale. dean finally confronts his father in heaven, very cathartic.
my heart a compass*** - teen/10k, post confession. the empty forces cas to re-experience his most regretted moments while dean tries to snap him out of it and bring him home.
A Crash Course in Someone Else's History - teen/11k, s6. cas from the very start of s4 is brought forward in time by s6!cas to distract the brothers from his and crowley’s plans.
The Cuckoo Father - mature/8k, s7 au. the woman who found cas in the river post-leviathans does not marry him bc he was sent to her by god or whatever, but actually identifies him as jimmy novak and sends him back to claire and amelia.
The Dead Dean Clause* - teen/5k, post alt s5 ending. team free will celebrates surviving taking down lucifer by getting blitzed, cas lies to a cop and gets an impromptu driving lesson. title/description sound dark i know but it’s actually very funny and light.
Suck It, Judy Garland - mature/20k, s12 (after the ‘i love you...i love all of you’ episode). cas and sam have to pretend to be a couple for a case and dean is NOT happy about it.
By Daylight and In Dream - teen/16k, s5. pre-dean/cas, dean invites cas to use his dreams to hide from the other angels. tw for very brief mention of a memory/dream of alastair sexually assaulting dean.
The Five People You Meet in Heaven - mature/22k, post-canon. an actually happy (if sometimes bittersweet) heaven endgame written several years ago, though some details are rather eerily similar to the show’s ending.
heaven is a place on earth* - teen/2k. dean’s pov of some of the times cas left him behind throughout the show, and one alternate ending where he finally gets to stay.
I Cleanse The Mirror - teen/20k, alternate s6. dean’s body is stolen by an ancient elemental and his soul has to hitch a ride in cas’ vessel.
an exploration of gender; angelic*** - mature/4k. *oscar isaac voice* lets get into angel gender politics!! aka cas is trans.
Zenith - explicit/33k, s9. after 9x06 an angry witch curses cas with the ability to see supernatural beings and human souls.
La cucina. - gen/3k, alt s9. dean goes wild helping a newly-human cas find out what kinds of food he likes, or the early s9 domesticity we deserved!
Dean Winchester, Cocksucker at Rest***** - teen/7k, post-finale. john and mary finally come over for dinner and john reacts to dean/cas in a rather predictable fashion. SOOOOOOOOO good omg, its so funny and a little sad and very very cathartic. part of a series that has a few other really good short fics.
The Way You Didn't Go - teen/5k, s15. coda to 15.09, dean has nightmares about the moc!cas timeline.
On Drowning - teen/28k. dean saves cas after he nearly drowns, they both try and deal with the physical/mental fallout (aka the fic where thee iconic “you only touch me when you think I’m dead or dying” originates). tw for realistic depictions of drowning/triage/misc medical information.
The Thirty-Six Questions That Lead to Love* - mature/13k. claire has dean and cas pretend to be her gay dads for a case and they play the titular 36 question game, get mistaken for swingers, and birdwatch, among other things.
Assorted F/F stuff:
Deep Breaths* - mary/ellen, au where mary said no to azazel’s deal and let john stay dead, still becomes a milf.
Like Rebel Diamonds - krissy/claire, they become hunter gf’s on the hunt for cas to kick his ass for taking jimmy. not-so-stealth dean/cas as well.
To Ash and Bone - anna/ruby, same author as the previous fic (p much all of her stuff is good from what i recall). au where ruby is a witch and helps anna when she’s cursed.
Holy Clockwork Angels - jo/ruby, STEAMPUNK au with very cool worldbuiilding.
At Day's End - jo/anna (my fucking KINGDOM for more jo/anna content, the dean/cas parallels are allllll there), au where they are both at the camp in the endverse and gfs.
these posts - ok so not actually a fic but i’m now obsessed with this hannah/meg dynamic.
Tagelied - mary/ellen, the true story of how ellen got into hunting before angels interfered.
Hell's Bells** - meg/abaddon, alternate s8/9 where meg survives crowley’s attack with sam’s help and teams up with abaddon (who she has a sk year old crush on) to take back hell.
The Ecstasy of the Rose - anna/ruby, anna travels back in time to escape heaven and becomes a signifigant part of ruby’s old human life.
Angel Underground - anna/jo, kind of an urban fantasy au with a very intriguing premise (sadly its very short, i’d love to see more if this ‘verse).
Clover, Flame - billie/mary, billie was always the reaper that showed up to take mary after her death(s) over the years.
Drag Me To Heaven - anna/ruby, a variant on the ‘last night on earth’ thing with dean.
Come Home* - jo/anna, canon-divergent au where anna is the new waitress at the roadhouse and helps jo set up a (probably not really) haunted house for halloween.
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darkpoisonouslove · 5 years
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For the send title Griffin Heat of the moment Long live the queen Three of my fav one shots! Took some thinking to narrow it down!
I am so sorry this took so long, but life got in the way. I had a terrible night on Saturday and really wasn’t in the state of mind to write this yesterday. Also, tumblr ate my response the other day and I’m still mad about it. So it’s been a fun couple of days. Here’s to hoping this answer will cheer us both up!
“Griffin”:
1. I wrote this when I was on vacation but it took me a while to edit it before I could post it. It was a spontaneous idea that I was so excited to start writing that I stayed up late for it (pretty sure I went to bed at, like, 3:30am because of this).
2. As I’ve mentioned before, it was inspired by “I Fell in Love with the Devil” by Avril Lavigne (damn, I love the song and the video) and my own thought process while I was listening to it. My brain just went “Hey, how cool do you think it will be if Griffin tried to summon the devil aka Valtor and then fell in love with him but it had a tragic ending bc it’s them obvs?” And I went “Yeah, I think that would be pretty cool.” So I just went with it but since I wanted it to keep the winx-verse feeling even despite it being an AU, I decided that Valtor would be known as the all-powerful Dark Dragon which is sort of an equivalent to the devil but not quite. He has all the knowledge on magic and is prone to wrecking havoc everywhere he goes, but minus the ruling hell thing. He’s not ruling anything, he was trapped. Because we needed a summoning ritual in this. Who doesn’t love summoning rituals?
3. Speaking of which, I don’t know how I made those up, but I’m really glad I did. The obsidian idea just came to me but when I did some research, what do you know? It was perfect. And I also managed to tie it in with the Obsidian dimension. I love doing AUs because it gives me so many opportunities to play around with canon details and put them in a new perspective and mold them until they fit this new universe I’ve come up with. It’s my favorite part of writing AUs. The hair thing I know from my mom, a book I read (”A Discovery of Witches”, I think) and internet confirmed. And the tears I just thought would add to the aesthetic and provide some insight into Griffin’s head.
4. I chose the title “Griffin” because this fic mainly deals with the essence of Griffin, with what makes her who she is. Also, I did some research on griffins and they are supposed to be protectors so that also fit in super nicely. I am very proud with the version of Griffin I’ve built in this fic. There is so much anger and desperation in her but that in no way changes the fact that she is actually a good person. Which is why this: “She was strong enough to be a protector. Even with her pain. Even with her rage. Even with her darkness.” is my favorite quote from the fic. I was in a dark place at the time I wrote this and it was important for me to remember that.
5. I also love how Valtor turned out in this fic. He’s mysterious and clearly dangerous but also alluring enough for Griffin to ignore the warning signs. And while it’s clear that he was using her, it isn’t clear what he feels about her. He does feel about her. Maybe not love but he certainly feels a lot about her. She was the only one who managed to summon him (aka rescue him) from Omega so he is intrigued by her powers as well as by the interaction of light and dark within her soul. That is the reason why I have considered writing a companion piece to this fic that is from Valtor’s point of view (there certainly is enough unexplored material on that timeline (I only gave the beginning and ending (is it?) of that relationship)), but I’ve discarded the idea as many times as I have entertained it (until now?). I really have other more pressing things that need taking care of rn but I might reconsider it again when I have more time (will a moment like that ever come?) since I had some new thoughts about it now.
“Heat of the Moment”:
1. This was actually the third Winx Club fanfic I wrote but I posted it as the second one since chapter one of “Warmth of Rage, Cold of Love” wasn’t edited yet at the time.
2. It was actually written at the same day as “Fire and Ice” but it took me a lot of time to get it up on FFN because I didn’t want to post it at first. It was veering on smut so I wasn’t sure how people would react to it. Which is why it makes me so happy to hear that you love that story so much, considering all the doubts I had around it (it was also the first time I was writing about them in the past and we didn’t see anything of their interactions back then on the show so it was pretty much a shot in the dark there).
3. Do you know that amazing moment when you want to write something steamy but you’re not comfortable with smut in this particular situation for whatever reason? This fic is the embodiment of that. Which is why it ended up as dry humping. That’s always my go-to thing in a situation like that. Not actual sex, but you get all the intimacy of sex in it. It’s a win-win (and also hot).
4. I probably would’ve gotten discouraged and would’ve quit writing for the Winx fandom after I posted that one because it didn’t get any attention in weeks. The thing that actually kept me going and not just motivated, but excited me to keep writing for Winx was @her-majesty-wears-jeans‘ review.
5. The whole fic is constructed the way it is because I’m convinced that Valtor loved messing with Griffin in every way possible and that it always set off a competition of wills between the two of them.
“Long Live the Queen”:
1. I was bursting with creative energy and just didn’t know what to work on (not for a lack of ideas but because none of those I already had sparked my interest (I think I had idea-fatigue for all of the wips I already had). So I just picked song lyrics and wrote a fic. How do I do this? It certainly is a mystery to me.
2. So it was all total chance there. I was listening to music on YouTube and when the song ended, the suggestions showed up. One of them was a lyric video for Halsey’s “Young God” (which is totally their story in the past, I mean, come on!) and the thumbnail had the lyric “I’m the king and you’re the queen”. So I just took that and rolled with it.
3. I didn’t think it a big deal because I honestly wasn’t planning on posting the thing. I was frustrated with myself that day and was pretty sure that it wouldn’t be good anyway. And then what do you know? It was good. It was better than good. I actually loved the result. So I decided to post it after all.
4. That last paragraph was on the line until the last moment I posted it. I only added it on the last round of edits and wasn’t really sure about it. I almost deleted it a few times, but, ultimately, I decided to leave it be.
5. I had some random thoughts about what happened after Griffin took the crown. Since it will get so out of control with the length if I try to write this (and I really don’t have the time for that), I’ll just write them out here. In short because I forgot some details that were kind of important. Also, angst alert.
Griffin and Valtor start ruling Domino and Griffin’s worries prove to be true. Valtor is… well, not that he’s not listening to her but in a situation that needs improvisation, he always makes the wrong move. He’s listening to her, he’s just not listening to common sense. He’s angry and powerful and it’s not a good combination.
On top of that, Faragonda shows up at the Domino palace to look for Griffin because she is convinced that Valtor is mind-controlling her. Griffin barely manages to convince Valtor not to hurt Faragonda. He’s suspicious of her because he thinks she’s come to gather intel, but Griffin tells him that Faragonda is there because she’s worried about her.
They form a sort of flimsy truce that allows Faragonda to come visit Griffin so that she won’t be so lonely. And if she spills anything about Valtor and Griffin (not just about their plans, but in general) to anyone at all, Valtor will make sure she regrets it. Griffin is still unhappy, though, and after overhearing (whether accidentally or not so much) one of her conversations with Faragonda, Valtor understands how much the whole thing is weighing down on her conscience.
So after one last very tender night with her, he lets her go. He can’t run away with her because that will put her in danger since the Council will want his head. So he’ll stay on Domino and limit the destruction as much as possible, but he wants her to go with Faragonda. They can tell the Council that she was under his spell and that was why she was acting the way she was. They’ve seen enough of what his mark on people can do so that won’t be hard to believe. And it was Faragonda who saved her from it with some fairy dust.
Griffin doesn’t want to leave him, but she does because she can’t take any more of what he’s doing. Faragonda hides her in Alfea where a few weeks later Griffin finds out she’s pregnant. It turns out Faragonda knew all along (Valtor told her when he called her to escort Griffin to Alfea and gave her a letter for Griffin because he knew that if Griffin knew she was pregnant with his daughter, she would never leave his side). The letter tells her under no circumstances to tell anyone that the baby is his daughter. She is supposed to pretend that that is the heiress of Domino who was born just before Valtor attacked and that he’d been keeping her hibernated (which is why she hasn’t aged and is still a newborn) until they found her. It took them months to get her out of that state which would give Griffin the time to give birth to the baby. And the real heiress of Domino is stuck on Earth with her way back to the magical dimension severed by Valtor’s spell. And it will remain so as long as the Dark Dragon Fire is burning.
So Darcy grows in Alfea, pretending that she is a fairy her whole life. And her power of illusions helps her keep up the charade with Griffin and Faragonda guiding her through the discovery of her magic and helping her understand both light and dark magic so that she can pretend to be a fairy and learn how to control her actual powers. And a little bit of glamor helps hide the family resemblance between her and Griffin. She knows the truth about herself and her father but she keeps all of that hidden like her mother insists.
When she turns sixteen, Valtor appears to tell her she is to take the throne of Domino, defeat him and “claim her birthright”. He gives them a part of the embers the Ancestral Witches used to make him and tells them that that is the evidence of his defeat they are to present to the Council. And he will disappear for he can’t stay with them, no matter how much he wants to. It will put them both at risk if anyone discovers the ruse.
Griffin sees how much of his body mass is missing and follows him to learn what he’s done and where he found the ember. Valtor tells her that he cut off his wings in demon form and made them return to their original form. However, that also had consequences for his human form and he’s dying. He’s pretty sure what he did messed with his internal organs and he doesn’t have much more to live. But he doesn’t regret anything if it means that Darcy will finally be safe and happy. And once she builds her reputation and convinces everyone she’s not a threat, she’ll be able to drop the disguise.
Griffin knows that will never be the case. She’s seen clearly all these years to differ from him. They can never drop the pretense for the Council will be after them immediately. And with Valtor dying in her arms, she’s not sure if Darcy can protect herself. She’s never used the full potential of her Dragon Fire and Griffin fears it is too late for her to do it. She fears that having to pretend to be someone else her whole life has destroyed who Darcy actually was. And she fears that it is all her fault. Because she took that crown when she shouldn’t have. When she knew it was the wrong choice.
So after Valtor is dead, Griffin sets out to find out how to bring the actual heiress of Domino back to the magical dimension in hopes that if the two kinds of fire mix and both girls learn to control them, the Council will not hunt down her daughter. A perfect mix of light and darkness is her only exit. But can she be sure that she can achieve it now when she couldn’t years ago and that was what set off the whole chain of events?
So this was longer than I expected but I like how it turned out. Except for the insane levels of angst which I’m pretty sure we’re all used to, but that still doesn’t make them any less painful. Anyway, hope this makes up for the delay!
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September 13th, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on September 13th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on Gemini Journey  by Tracy MacLauchlan & Yesenia Carrero.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Gemini Journey by Tracy MacLauchlan & Yesenia Carrero~! (http://geminijourney.com/) Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
Shen
i liked when she was getting ready for interviews and she messed up her makeup and her buttons popped 100% relatable
Tenor | Shinavar
Hi Hi! Q1: TOO MANY. But specifically I really enjoyed Veil's anger he morning after Gemini went missing. I just really appreciated getting to see someone actually care someone just wandered off, and him still having lingering emotions about the whole incident of her returning home.
aliceapproved
Oh gosh, that one was such a BIG MOOD!!!
saetje
whoo-hoo! Thanks @RebelVampire for putting on CTP. And hey all, thanks for coming :)!
Kabocha
Oh, boy, this is a hard one to answer, to be honest! I really liked the first chapter, where Gemini and Veil were going up against the Dragon-Roach... I was like "WAIT HOW CAN YOU HATE DRA--- Oh." Also, this scene: http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=69 Veil. You are the best.
It was fantastic handling of that... Creeper Kappa? Is the flasher a Kappa?
Shen
i just give 100% of my heart to Veil he works so hard hes so tired let him rest
Tenor | Shinavar
Flasher, I'd say
aliceapproved
Gosh, yeah, the dragon cockroach was really creative and I'm SO HAPPY there's a Kappa and they had to do the "bow" move to "defeat him"
Tenor | Shinavar
But yeah I love how 'street smart' he is about like, everything going on.
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
a book nerd with street smarts
Kabocha
Veil has no time for any of these Shenanigans
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
he's amazing
aliceapproved
I really love Gemini's "guilt" expression in one of the interviews
Superjustinbros
Hello!
RebelVampire
yeah i think veil is also a great character balance to gemini. cause when you have someone who is into the shenanigans, you need someone to be a grounding influence
Tenor | Shinavar
I also really like that though because he shows a level of attentiveness and perception to the world around him. <3
saetje
yess! It's a flasher Kappa! Glad you liked that scene.
Shen
yeah sometimes the "straight man" character can come off as a wet blanket but he genuinely cares for Gemini. i'd like to see more of that, like how they mnet or something one day in the future
aliceapproved
Yeah! Veil and Gemini are such a dynamic complimentary duo, from personality, body shapes, and orange and blue colors!
Shen
EXCELLENt design
Superjustinbros
Oh yea, huge props for how polar opposites Gemini and Veil are
aliceapproved
OH!!! One of my favorite scenes is when Gemini firsts visits the creepy circus and the scene transitions to her perfectly waking up in bed. That was such a cool transition!
Kabocha
Yesssss!
mathtans
Yes, I agree, the two play off each other well.
Kabocha
It was!
Superjustinbros
http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=198 Also, I like this scene, in part cause it reminds me very well of what happens to me some days
aliceapproved
I'm really eager to see how the circus devolves and how Veil and Gemini will handle it. Also those rad fox twins!
mathtans
(I may have to leave at a moment's notice when the baby awakens, if I suddenly go silent.)
Jess
You guys are so nice. I don’t know if I can add smilies fast enough haha
Kabocha
http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=55 Also, the lighting on this page was woooonderful. I wasn't sure how to read Veil's expression though. It was kind of like... "wait. Do you not want her to move out? Or... Are you just... ....caught off guard by dog fire?" ....Then the next panel is like "Back to reality."
Jess
Yeah the scene where it transitions from her as a circus performer to her in the bed was one of my favorites. @saetje really owned that scene
Tenor | Shinavar
I read it as he's a bit hurt at the "You can finally be alone!" more than her moving out
Superjustinbros
wow that is some really good lgithing
Jess
I think that was the first time that I didn’t second guess the panel format
RebelVampire
to repeat something already said, i loved the dragon bug. that was such an immensely creative idea, and i think it was a great way to open the comic. we get a great way to get not only the impression of what the world is like, but we get to get a great feel for the personalities of the characters.
mathtans
I gotta say though, my favourite was apparently Death owning a flower shop that has the slogan "You Don't Gno-me". Gotta love those little details.
http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=44
Tenor | Shinavar
GASP I MISSED THAT
OMG I LOVE IT
Jess
Yaaaaay!!
RebelVampire
yeah i give death's appearance an A+. that and gemini's confusion about why death asked about her immortal soul
aliceapproved
I looove all the mythology monsters at play in the background!
saetje
A lot of those details are thanks to @Jess who does final rendering/lettering. Flower-shop Wraith/Death will actually be showing up again I think next update, haha.
RebelVampire
http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=45 although i was also distracted by the page right after. this feels so true for getting a job.
mathtans
It's the Wraith of Khan.
Shen
LOL Gemini's entire job ordeal is so relatable. "i workeds hard on this one application im gonna go get a treat" girl, same
Superjustinbros
hehee
Kabocha
http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=157 Veil's distress :<
Tenor | Shinavar
Gemini sets off my inner Veil tho bc I know so many friends who do like
1 app a week
Shen
UGH hes so cute when hes sad XD
Tenor | Shinavar
and it's like: HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-
mathtans
Back to what Rebel said though, I agree the dragon as a bug was hugely creative, and a good way to see the main characters play off each other.
Tenor | Shinavar
istg I relate to Veil the entire job process lmao
Kabocha
I love the expressiveness of both Veil and Gemini, but yeah, I really really feel for Veil
aliceapproved
I love how much Veil cares! He cares SO MUCH!!!
Tenor | Shinavar
Did anyone else notice in he dragon roach scene Veil has Gemini's shoe the whole time as the weapon?
RebelVampire
i love that page, @Kabocha like the lighting plus that expression made my heart weep
mathtans
I like that Gemini did start to take it more seriously for Veil, or at least seems to have been at interviews.
RebelVampire
weep so dang much
mathtans
Tenor: I don't think I picked up on that.
Kabocha
Although, how much is Gemini caring vs the Circus influence infecting her with confidence?
Tenor | Shinavar
I realized it after I noticed Gemini running around without a shoe and had to go back to see where I missed it lmao
saetje
@Tenor | Shinavar AH! Someone noticed that!
Superjustinbros
(I'm gonna go AFK for a bit, got some things I have to do but I'll hopefully be back later!)(edited)
Tenor | Shinavar
IT'S CUTE BUT MAKES ME WONDER HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT LOL
saetje
Yes, Veil took Gemini's shoe despite having larger feet than her. I could jsut imagine the behind-the-scenes squabbling about it
aliceapproved
OOOH Good point about the influence! I'm really intrigued by the hypnotic circus
Tenor | Shinavar
Kabo: Caring about what, specifically? Like, about the circus, trying to get a job...?
(Sorry if I'm slow on the draw, got kids here )
Jess
On our world dragons: Yeah. It came from a conversation that dragons are the pests of the magical/mythical world. To the roach/dragon thing just kinda took form from that Ahahaha
RebelVampire
yes i noticed the shoe and thought that was a great art touch of continuity
Jess
Ahaha yeah!!! I mean. My boi got nice shoes. He can’t be using them for that
aliceapproved
I'm really glad dragons have the roach aesthetic, too! As someone who loves all dragons, I draw the lines at cockroaches XD
Shen
yeah that poster at the end threw me for a loop i thought it was a legit magic look-alike so when i saw the poster i was like "whoaaa no way" haha makes me VERY interested to read more
aliceapproved
Veil is so clean haha!
Kabocha
@Tenor | Shinavar -- Just in general honestly. Gemini started putting more effort into things, but it didn't feel like she actually really gave a damn more than she had gained some level of confidence.
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
i really liked gemini's haunted mascara
saetje
I'm glad you all like the Dragon Roach opening/idea too. It's also the idea...trying to imagine how mythical things might have 'evolved' along with our modern world, and yeah. Dragons are pretty much pests you always have to exterminate, yeah?(edited)
Kabocha
Although maybe that's the magic of the circus
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
or maSCAREa
mathtans
I grinned at it being one of the flying types.
Tenor | Shinavar
Ooooh that's fair, and a good point.
mathtans
Made me think of ants. I hate the flying ones.
saetje
@mathtans directly related to past experience with real life 'flying ones'. Nothing makes a roach worse than realizing it's one of those
omg ants too
Tenor | Shinavar
Saetje: So would this modern world have those 'fortune cat' memes but with the dragons instead? Reblog for good fortune?
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
god i related to that line so much bcus of how often i had to deal with flying roaches as a young childe
saetje
hmm, fortune cat memes? Like on tumblr when someone reblogs a picture of a cat with money on its head? XD
Tenor | Shinavar
Yeah~
!*
aliceapproved
OMG
Kabocha
I could do without the flying insects aaaaaaaa
aliceapproved
gEmini and Veil on social media haha!
Shen
i bet Gemini is a memelord
Jess
Yeah!! For the circus - we’re at the point not where we can start unraveling some of the mystery. Throughout the story so far we wanted it to be sorta ambiguous about if that Gemini in the circus was the same one. In the next oncoming scenes you’ll see what’s real and what’s not. But hopefully the way it’s being read is that the readers (y’all) are realizing it might actually be Gem
Tenor | Shinavar
I'd collect flying insects if they were smol dragons justsayin
Oooou~!
Jess
She is definitely a memelord Hahahah I love that
saetje
I doubt about dragons being seen as fortune memes since dragons are seen as pests and they tend to keep you from your money (ala sitting on the horde and breathing fire) or take loose items into their hidey holes-- so they're not seen the same as lucky. But that might just be for Gem and Veil's part of their world
aliceapproved
I'm so excited for the Circus to "unravel"
Shen
i bet she texts memes to Veil from across the room and then just waits for him to look at her in disapproval =3
Tenor | Shinavar
I've been under the impression the circus might not be entirely real and the performers there are stuck against their will - kinda fae-style. <_< So either she's performing against her will and is not yet fully bound or it's been an illusion to GET her there
RebelVampire
is veil thus the type to post all the old timey book quotes then? XD
in regards to the social media thing
mathtans
Yeah, at first I thought maybe Gemini was just seeing herself in place of who was actually up there, but with the poster it seemed likely that they were actually making her do the things.
aliceapproved
Oooh, I think it could go either way with trapped souls and she's not bound yet, or it's all an illusion to trap her.
Also, Veil posts moody aesthetic boards
Shen
XD
aliceapproved
"Juggling is not a garbage job" :V
saetje
yeah we're getting into I guess the third act and I hope it comes together and makes sense. as we unravel some mystery. There's more stories we want to tell after "Barley & Bay-Lily" that all follow continuity, so I want to wrap Barley & Bay-Lily where you all know what's going on but there's more overarching questions than answered in some ways.
I'm loving these thoughts on it!
mathtans
Clever play on Barnum & Bailey, by the way.
Jess
Thanks!!
RebelVampire
i want to say i loved the juggler. that was a great design and gemini's reaction to it made me laugh. although i do wonder now if the juggler is part of the circus conspiracy
mathtans
I wonder if it's significant that they seem to be foxes.
Kabocha
Foxes are tricksters, so I mean
aliceapproved
Kitsunes!
Tenor | Shinavar
My fear about the poster though, and why I hink it's a trap, is it said her "final act"
mathtans
'Tis true.
Jess
Also I don’t know if anyone noticed but the juggler was only juggling 2 balls with 4 arms
aliceapproved
Very fitting to make them foxes! Cute and mischevious and devllish
Tenor | Shinavar
so it's like; HHHHHHHHHHHHH GEMINI BBY NO RUN AWAY
aliceapproved
YEAH!! GEMINI GET OUTTA THERE
Jess
So lots of talent going on in the streets of New Olympia hahaha
mathtans
Jess: I caught the four arms. Guess I didn't count the balls. Seems like less of a challenge there.
Shen
"mysterious circus ive never heard of down a dark alley? sounds like a great time and not at all suspicious!"
Jess
Right!?
saetje
yes, what @Kabocha said. The idea for GJ is this is HER story/myth/hero's journey. Foxes are pretty archetypal to suspect characters in folklore and fairy tale. WHAT they are exactly, well. More to be revealed :' D you guys have some awesome theories.
mathtans
Maybe there was a chainsaw off panel.
saetje
hahahaha
Kabocha
This'll be really cool to see as it approaches the end
(of the chapter, anyway)
Tenor | Shinavar
yeeees
Jess
That’s true! Whether she was a good juggler or not is the true mystery
mathtans
The foxes are actually out of work actors.
saetje
oh god.
Mathtan you figured it out
noooo
Jess
Yesssss
aliceapproved
I misread that as "work out" actors LOL
Tenor | Shinavar
choke
saetje
oh even better
Tenor | Shinavar
Explains why they are trying to start their own circus
aliceapproved
LOL "Get BUFF with JUGGLING"
Shen
LOL
mathtans
Appearing next in the Big Top - Jazzercize.
Tenor | Shinavar
WHEEZE
saetje
Possessed Scary Circus Zumba
Shen
Crossfit but its clowns
Jess
That’s terrifying
Tenor | Shinavar
I h8 u all bc I can't draw this right now
RebelVampire
i would pay to see clowns doing crossfit
saetje
now tHAT'S a million dollar comic idea, Shen
or idea in general, yes
aliceapproved
I know it's probably way off in the future, but I'm curious about plans for Veil-focused arc in the future
Shen
yeah same, im sure its planned but im interested
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. While searching for a job, Gemini clearly has gotten wrapped up in a dangerous situation involving a circus. What do you think the circus’ goal is in general for the people it entraps? Who exactly are the fox ringmasters running the show? Why was Gemini in particular targeted as opposed to other people in the audience? Why did Gemini seemingly come home in a trance, and what do you think it means for whatever is happening to Gemini? How do you feel the performer who represents Gemini’s ideals fits into all of this? Do Gemini’s anxieties have something to do with all this do you think? Lastly, how do you think Gemini will get out of this mess (or is she just doomed)?
Shen
i wanna know why he puts up with her tbh ^^; seems like she can be a bit self interested
aliceapproved
Also that it's confirmed he has friends cuz of that phone call. I'm sorry, I keep assuming he's a Sad Books lonely boy
Shen
no friends its just his mom
saetje
yeah you guys don't know if he's just sadly talking to a dial tone
Kabocha
The circus' goal is to... Basically steal her life energy! Somehow. But we'll see. Or enchant her and spirit her away~ Once she becomes part of the spirit world she won't really be albe to retuuuuuurn~
Shen
SAETJE THATS SO SAD XD
RebelVampire
well now you made it sad. XD
Kabocha
@saetje oh noooooooooooooooooooooo
aliceapproved
LOL! As for Question 2: Like most shifty magic things, steal her soul! Trap her in the circus
Kabocha
What about Gemini's mom? I'm sure he's probably got her on speed dial
RebelVampire
i assume soul stealing. i mean thats pretty standard evil fair. and who doesn't need a good soul
Shen
i dont think they targetted Gemini specifically as much as they laid out a trap and waited to see who stumbled in, and she did so they ensnared her
mathtans
Veil seems too organized to talk to a dial tone. It'd at least be the official time signal.
aliceapproved
I think the Circus targets ppl who are down on their luck or confidence or don't have a quote "real job" atm? Like job hunting is really stressful and feels hopeless a ton of times
so it looks for vulnerable ppl imo
mathtans
Gemini came home in a trance because the cab was too expensive.
Jess
That’s how I do too
saetje
BRB faking trance to get out of cab faire
aliceapproved
To heck with fantasy Uber and Lyft!
Kabocha
It shows them something akin to their best selves, maybe?
saetje
hahaha
RebelVampire
what if this is a known phenomenon in their world so when someone says "they ran away to the circus" they mean that whoops, got that soul life energy sucked out
aliceapproved
Yeah! The play of "UGH I should just run away and join the circus" it's so cool!
Shen
i once saw a video of a woman pretending to be a ghost to get out of paying a toll
Tenor | Shinavar
Q2: The specific part I havenb't already kinda answered is: I feel she is part of Gemini's subconciousness in the sense of having her "act" together. Her life wouldn't be too chaotic, she's able to balance all that is expected of her without being a 'clutz' or anything she seems to think at least minimally negatively on. (seen by her admiring the grace and such)
Kabocha
She's a representation of everything Gemini wants to be?
aliceapproved
^^^^
Tenor | Shinavar
Not exactly but def a bait, in some way
Kabocha
Except moving more toward that ideal means that Gemini gets trapped...
Well, representations don't have to be literal >_>
<_< I figured it was all pretty figurative
Tenor | Shinavar
True true
RebelVampire
the thing i cant figure out is why the trance thing. like gemini was in the circus, just suck out her soul. why give her the chance to escape?
aliceapproved
Since we see Gemini specifically, I'm assuming the audience members are just an illusion
Maybe these foxes like playing with their "prey" and make it a slow burn
mathtans
It could be through the music that the circus gets you. That alley cat seemed real scared of it, while Gemini was drawn in.
Alice: Oh, I like that.
Tenor | Shinavar
Rebel: If i works like fae magic, you gota get them to agree to it
aliceapproved
Yeah, why play if there's no risk involved?
mathtans
Rebel: To recharge?
Tenor | Shinavar
You also can avoid like - all legal repercussions if it's "willing" >_>
aliceapproved
^^^
Jess
Ahahaha consensual death is the best ... death?
aliceapproved
For lawyers, yES!
mathtans
Now waiting for the scene where Veil rules-lawyers the foxes.
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
thats how it be sometimes
aliceapproved
Law & Order with VEIL
Tenor | Shinavar
Also it hurt a lil bit I couldnt resist. Crossfit clown from geminis world lol
Shen
JKRFJGJHMHG LMAO!!!
saetje
omg @tenor hahaha
mathtans
That's a garbage job. ^.-(edited)
Tenor | Shinavar
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE VEIL THROW DOWN VERBAL LOOP HOLES IN CONTRACTS
saetje
IT'S NOT A GARBAGE JOB, VEIL. I mean MATH.
Tenor | Shinavar
Just like, pops on some glasses and busts out a book from no where
Kabocha
That's Veil's magic power -- BOOK LEARNIN'
Tenor | Shinavar
YES
Jess
Yessss
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
magic is a thing, he probably just pulls out outta his pocket dimension- which is in his pocket
Tenor | Shinavar
He has a pocket just for his books
aliceapproved
I love all the art you guys do of Veil with his book beasts! They're the best!
Tenor | Shinavar
all 2k of them
saetje
haha,t hat's actually a joke we've been wanting to use somewhere-- "I love your dress" "Thanks it has pocket dimensions"
Jess
Omg I love it. All pockets are pocket dimensions from now on
Tenor | Shinavar
OMG YES PLZ
DO IT
aliceapproved
OMG PLS DO THAT
Tenor | Shinavar
AS A PARENT IT'S A NECESSITY wheeeeeeeeeze
aliceapproved
pockets are THE BEST
imagine a pocket dimension!
This world gets better and better! Minus the creepy circuses
Jess
Right
Hehehe
mathtans
"My pocket dimension is full of clowns...."
Jess
Nooooo worst dimension
Kabocha
I saw a few other people ask it, but... Why is Veil so tolerant of Gemini's shenanigannery? I mean, I am a far less patient roommate than he is...
saetje
I figure a pocket dimension dress would have to be some kind of plot device though for a future arc. i mean, HAVE to be.
Tenor | Shinavar
New def to clown car
Kabocha
matth whyyy
Tenor | Shinavar
Kabo: My shipping side if he finds it endearing
Exhausting but endearing
saetje
wellp, clowns ruined it
RebelVampire
i do applaud veil's sheer patience
Kabocha
I WAS LEANING THAT WAY BUT I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S JUST ENTERTAINED OR WHAT
RebelVampire
but i do assume the blushing is more than just blushing
Tenor | Shinavar
CON GRATS REBEL
YOU DID IT
Jess
Ah. Well be answering that soon. I think so far we’ve been focusing on Gem and some of her worst traits - her selfishness, but
Shen
nice~
mathtans
Kabocha: Because I can. As to why Veil's tolerant, maybe he knows someone like Gemini in his family or his past.
Kabocha
I figured Veil was kind of perpetually blushing unless otherwise upset.
Shen
i am absolute ship trash and i am waiting for this to sail but i am patient
Jess
And we’ve focused on veils best - his smarts and his loyalty
Tenor | Shinavar
I keep getting little hints Veil at least Likes her.
Kabocha
Hm. So he knows Gemini could be Amazing if she'd try?
RebelVampire
i think there is some of that yes
Tenor | Shinavar
But doesn't push it
RebelVampire
wait veil has bad traits?
i dont accept this
Tenor | Shinavar
No he doesn't
don't listen to them
shh
Shen
no, veil is perfect
Kabocha
Veil's afraid of bugs....
mathtans
Veil just likes Gemini for her shoes. Much shoe blushing, wants to wear them.
Tenor | Shinavar
Je
aliceapproved
I'm sure Veil totally finds Gemini charming and really.. pr-pretty BLUSH
RebelVampire
being afraid of bugs is a good trait
Jess
It’s true. And he won’t dirty his own shoes
RebelVampire
bugs carry disease
Tenor | Shinavar
But is he afraid of bugs
or the fact they can catch shit on fire
aliceapproved
Veil is very much a neat freak which is a double-edged sword
Tenor | Shinavar
like his books
aliceapproved
and not very impulsive, so Gemini helps liven things up for him
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
tenor raises a good point
Shen
thats more "quirky" than a character flaw lol
like "clumsy" girls XD
Kabocha
They're foils for one another, you say? That's how these sorts of friendships balance each other? NEVAAAAAAR! ....I ship them unless there is a reason I should not.
Shen
these ship goggles dont come off
Kabocha
Several people are typing...
aliceapproved
Yeah, this arc is very Gemini focused and how she needs to grow as a character
I'm excited to see how Veil needs to grow as a character in the future
Kabocha
Yesh!
Shen
aye
aliceapproved
Gotta take turns!
RebelVampire
admittedly i do think veil kind of needs to learn to have fun probably
as a character arc
Tenor | Shinavar
But books are fun
Work is fun
saetje
well but organization is fun
RebelVampire
although i do wanna know now who veil is calling
and what he does with his not gemini friends
Tenor | Shinavar
RESPONSIBILITY
aliceapproved
Yeah, that's definitely something I see with Veil
Tenor | Shinavar
Just what the dr ordered
RebelVampire
i agree with organization and books but i meant more in how he carries himself
Jess
Oh! It’s a dial tone
RebelVampire
gotta learn to tweet those memes back
saetje
hahaha
Tenor | Shinavar
lmaaao
Shen
thats fair he could stand to lighten up lol they both need to learn a bit from each other. hes not got time for fun if he has to always be the "responsible" one because someone else took up all the "fun" XD
aliceapproved
Yeah! Guy needs to party and have an impulsive time for once rather than strictly schedule
They need to work together
Tenor | Shinavar
I do agree tho, with how in the know he seems to be, I'd like to know who all he's got, esp depending how they'll influence stuff in the future.
bc it seems he's from here whereas Gemini isn't soooo <_<;
mathtans
Veil can be fun. Veil can't be impulsive.
RebelVampire
yeah i do hope this circus experience teaches gemini more responsibility. in that maybe she should fill out more than a few apps XD
aliceapproved
Does Veil have a hard time making decisions?
Shen
"look how impulsively i filled out your applications for you isnt that fun?"
mathtans
Alice: Not if blueberries are involved.
aliceapproved
And yeah, Gemini certainly learning more responsibility and also, to trust in herself if she applies herself and focuses
Jess
Ahahaha
Tenor | Shinavar
I think Gemini jus needs to get to the point she doesn't need a child leash
Jess
Well and for me - I think when people are going through hardships, like Gem not being able to land a job, sometimes the worst parts of themselves show up. And while I love the character - (and hopefully) she’s shown to be kinda funny and not overly mean - I thought it was important to show her bad side early on
mathtans
I don't see her as mean, just easily distracted.
Tenor | Shinavar
^Same
She's irresponsible but not in a malicious way
Like if she hurt someone I'd be dead up surprised if it was intentional
aliceapproved
Yeah, that's definitely it ^^
mathtans
Tenor: She killed a dragon.
aliceapproved
I never thought of her as "mean"
Tenor | Shinavar
she is a sweet widdle cinnimon bun who needs protected from circuses and flashers
I said someone
Not thing
Kabocha
Gemini is Dovahkiin now lol
aliceapproved
I'm sorry, Mat, but they're pests in this universe. Cockroaches uugh
Tenor | Shinavar
Difference ;)
RebelVampire
oh yeah gemini is still super likeable. its more shes that adult who hasnt quite grown up yet. and youre kind of hand waving her to make stop being a kid 100% of the time.
mathtans
Fair.
aliceapproved
Yeah! She's like a kid fresh out of college
Jess
Oh good! Was kinda worried. But she’s definite selfish and flighty and I’m happy to see that it’s coming through
Without making her irredeemable
Draco Plato
yeah she's definitely still likeable
aliceapproved
Open to the free adult world, but still needs to learn how to adult cuz lord knows school prepares us for THAT
Tenor | Shinavar
Yeah nah there's not a mean bone in that child's body
Free spirit, I think is a good desc?
mathtans
The foxes are also spirits, but they're not free.
saetje
I'm glad! That's what we're going for- she's not intentionally harmful but has a lot of growing up to do. I don't think she realizes when her actions can hurt someone else.
aliceapproved
She's selfish and irresponsible, but there's still potential to be redeemed. She's a well-rounded character that's set up to evolve from this story and that's what makes sticking with this story so worth it!
saetje
no one's free when they teach Clown Jazzercise
RebelVampire
those poor foxes. gemini is actually doing them a service
mathtans
I wonder if this world has the Zodiac? Is Gemini's name at all related to that?
Kabocha
Pffff
Tenor | Shinavar
Oooh. <.< Good q
aliceapproved
Like, Veil is obviously responsible and an adult, so Gemini doesn't seem to think she has to think about Veil's feelings or words on some matters? He's got it all figured out! Me though? I need help. Veil, veil help me! What applications?! Not boring help ;; That's how I see Gemini
Kabocha
Gemini's the twins, yeah? Does Gemini have a sister, or a hidden second side where she's actually really competent?
mathtans
Maybe she's the good twin, and the evil one is in the circus.
aliceapproved
OOH, I'm curious about that, too, Math. I'm a Scorpio!
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
that means you have a scorpion in the circus
Shen
"the twins" the foxes...
Jess
Ahahaha yesssss
saetje
Can't really reveal the Gemini connection yeeet buuut, duality and twins have some play in the overarching story yes!
aliceapproved
DUN DUN DUUUN
Shen
PS im a Gemini~
Jess
Me tooooo!! Yesssss
Are you also plagued by fox clowns out of work
Kabocha
Gemini probably hasn't really taken time to consider other people's feelings long-term. I don't think she's quite there emotionally, but when she actually like.... really has it sink in that she worried Veil, that'll be interesting. Although she did acknolwedge she scared him, so I mean
aliceapproved
Secret revealed, Gemini is called Gemini cuz Jess is a Gemini
Tenor | Shinavar
Naaaice ~ Also omg the fox twins ffft- Makes me think
Kabo: Yeah, I don't think she fully got how bad the scare was?
Shen
sweet im gonna name my next character Sagittarius
Kabocha
Yeah, it's the depth that I think she lacks
Tenor | Shinavar
Like "I'm sorry for scaring you but not sorry I did the action to cause it :D" levels of immaturity
aliceapproved
@saetje What's your zodiac sign if you don't mind sharing?
mathtans
Plot twist, Gemini sells her soul to the Flower Wraith Shop, and the foxes have to buy it back to keep their shenanigans going.
Tenor | Shinavar
kjdhaskj
Kabocha
When she gets more insight it'll be awesome as she grows
Shen
LOL
Tenor | Shinavar
Kabo: Yeeeeees
Jess
She’s two fishes
saetje
Pisces
aliceapproved
Yeah, Gemini maturing as an adult is really exciting to wait for
My sister's two fish, too XD
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
twins............. two fish..............................
i see a theme here
Tenor | Shinavar
I really wanna see Gemini work for Death now hhh-
aliceapproved
OMG
Yes haha!
Maybe a temp job that doesn't work out somehow
Kabocha
Twist: Death only claims dead plants
Tenor | Shinavar
Mostly bc I'm stuck with Death having the VA as the Death from Conker's bad fur day and I just. Can't.
mathtans
"You should probably hold the scythe the other way."
Kabocha
"You're going to hurt yourself if you trim the shrubberies this way."
Tenor | Shinavar
"Why are you wearing all black it's hot af out go change, child"
RebelVampire
i hope death only claims dead plants cause otherwise gemini is basically going from one soul threatening adventure to another
saetje
haha so true
XDD
Tenor | Shinavar
WELL I MEAN
she just have to give death her soul
it's never said when
mathtans
Does it have to be her soul, or just a soul? Or maybe soul music?
Tenor | Shinavar
oh god
Just a soul can be how we find out Death accepts plants
RebelVampire
death better be a fan of soul music
saetje
you've split this concept wide open Maths
Shen
the sole of this shoe
Tenor | Shinavar
Shen NO
Shen
=D
saetje
SHEN YES
Jess
Yessss
aliceapproved
Another note about this story, is that I think it's a really good Young Adult story, cuz I feel myself and a bunch of other adults or kids coming out of college can relate to Gemini's story of trying to find work after moving out to live on their own
Tenor | Shinavar
That's Death's brother, Reaper.
mathtans
Veil: "Your spell checker has done you in. Gemini only has to give you her shoe sole."
Jess
Awwww!! Thanks so much
Tenor | Shinavar
Alice: Yeees. Tho I think this first big arc is good for younger children too
RebelVampire
the shoe in the dragon part was foreshadowing
aliceapproved
Yeah!
Tenor | Shinavar
Like my kiddo would love the art and atm if it goes where I suspect it might, it's a great lesson to learn young
saetje
Thanks @aliceapproved !! that makes me happy to hear because that's also what we're going for
Jess
Yeah actually when whenever we show Gem getting rejected I get real sad. Since some of it draws from our experiences
aliceapproved
You guys nailed it
Yeah, it was a big mood for me this year, so this story has been helping
Tenor | Shinavar
Rejeced? D:
Jess
Younger out of college Jess applied to be the new death - and I got turned down
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Though we certainly know Gemini and Veil a bit, much of their past history has yet to have been discussed. Why do you think Gemini has struck out on her own? Do you think it’s just to embrace adulthood, or is there something specific she’s seeking? Was there anything about Gemini’s journey into adulthood that you connected with? What about Veil? What do you think Veil’s backstory is? How do you think Veil and Gemini even know each other? Do you think Veil’s overprotectiveness of Gemini exists for a reason, or do you think it’s just part of Veil’s personality? In regards to their future, do you think that the two will be able to remain friends, or will their differing personalities get in the way of peaceful cohabitation? Do you think Gemini will be able to successfully get a job? Finally, will Gemini move out once she gets a job, or will Veil potentially actively sabotage it?
saetje
I guess now that we're getting more shows like "Aggretsuko" I'd say we'd like to hit around that target. Like, we're sort-of 'mature' only because of some of the (not-NSFW) themes resonates more with older folks. But hopefully there's still more to be enjoyed from a slightly younger YA/teen audience.
mathtans
Interesting last question there - I don't think Veil would actively sabotage, but might passively, without really thinking about it. "You can't move out next week, it's supposed to rain."
Shen
i think Gemini's irresponsibility combined with the double life (???????) shes got going on now is leading to a big fight with Veil. I dread it though
aliceapproved
SAME SHEN!!!
A big confrontation scene!
I can feel it coming
Veil finally calling out Gemini
I can only imagine the emotions!
Kabocha
...Can Veil handle confrontation where he gets pushback?
like, he can handle snark, but, an actual argument?
RebelVampire
yeah. veil might be the type who cant really deal with confrontation like that
Tenor | Shinavar
3: Gemini is homeschooled. If she's trying to branch out there's a chance she might either feel shackled a bit, or she's been encouraged by her parents to stretch her wings. Gemini ran into Veil lost puppy style, trufax. Brought her in from the rain and cold Veil's personality is probably tied to sorta trying to guide Gemini in the sense of law and order. Everything has a place, so you gotta do it- where you going coME BACK OMG I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU. I do believe here is going to be some strife at some point because Gemini has shown a lack of communication and emotional skill and Veil has shown a lack of willingness to bend. BUT I do believe this will clear up after some resolution from some juicy content So yes I believe they'll stay friends.
RebelVampire
although i think the confrontation is coming
saetje
That's a really great question, Kabocha. We haven't shown that yet :)c
Tenor | Shinavar
Maybe at worse a temporary not friends moment to crush our hopes and dreams
aliceapproved
Or maybe "not speaking" terms atm
RebelVampire
actually ya know what i could see as veil's big character arc is addressing change. cause the moving out thing may be more than veil just doesnt want gemini to go. it may be that veil is the sort that completely shuts down when there is change
saetje
y'all you guys have such insight, I'm loving your thoughts here. It's a relief to know you guys are getting a lot of what we're trying to put out and I love hearing your concepts, and concerns, for the characters!
Kabocha
I dunno that Veil realizes how overbearing he can be, to be honest. So.. Gemini's gonna get pushed to the edge and push back against him.
Tenor | Shinavar
Rbeel: Oooooh, that can be true too
aliceapproved
I think Gemini might resolve to move back in with her mom (which is LEAST wanted thing for her cuz I think she loves being out on her own), but Veil offers that she could still say with him, granted now that she has a proper not circus cursed job
Tenor | Shinavar
SOME chaos is good but what is his limit.
aliceapproved
RebelVampire, that's a really good note on Veil!
Tenor | Shinavar
Kabo: Yeah I get that. He seems so happy to 'help' but because he knows what you NEED to do to get done, he doesn't seem to fully 'get' that it's a lot for Gemini
aliceapproved
Veil's very much overprotective
Tenor | Shinavar
A bit of lack of empathy for the situation in the face of necessity?
aliceapproved
Yeah, like filling out applications is FuN???
Kabocha
He also doesn't understand how to break things down into smaller more completable tasks
mathtans
Gemini needs a source of income, maybe Veil's letting her stay for cheap?
Kabocha
he can handle a long list, but.... honestly, Gemini needs to feel accomplished at each step of the way and realize how much progress she's made
aliceapproved
Yeah, Gemini is a person that needs to be eased and break down steps, not all dumped at once
saetje
@Kabocha exactly- one of the flaws we've hopefully seen in Veil is that he can be pushy (literally physically pushing her around town int he beginning arc) and then tends to put too much on Gemini than what she's ready for at times.
Tenor | Shinavar
I got pushy though I didn' know the physical part was part of it
aliceapproved
Yeah! That page with her smushed with all his word bubbles was a great representation of that!
Tenor | Shinavar
I figured him grabbing her was because it was liTERALLY UNSAFE LOL
mathtans
Veil isn't as observant as Gemini, maybe because she's so distractible. He didn't realize she knew his fave berries and such.
saetje
Well I might've misspoke- it was more of a visual analogy for being emotionally pushy than, like, physically harmful or abusive.
Kabocha
He's basically trying to herd her lol
saetje
yes like a little sheep dog lol
aliceapproved
Yeah!
Tenor | Shinavar
OOOH OKAY
I getcha now lol
aliceapproved
Veil is honestly a toothpick and I bet a small breeze could push him over
Tenor | Shinavar
laskdjKLSDFJ
Jess
Lmao
saetje
omg
Tenor | Shinavar
Don't insult my son like that
just bc he can takje flight with those ears don't mean nuttin
Shen
LOL
aliceapproved
He's a GOOD SON!
saetje
oommg haha
aliceapproved
I love him!
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
veil is a good boi
aliceapproved
Boy ain't gonna win a bar fight is all haha!
Bless this sensitive boy!
Kabocha
http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=178 "You are in my personal space"
Tenor | Shinavar
Nah legit tho being the tiny I'm surprised he CAN push her, or at least shows she's willing somewhat to be guided
Jess
Guys. It’s the nose isn’t it
Tenor | Shinavar
omg someone draw me Veil getting carried off by gemini plz
Jess
He can do no wrong with a face so right
mathtans
Veil has a large picture of Spock in his room. Big fan.
Tenor | Shinavar
That's exactly it Jess
saetje
Honestly Gem could just pick him up and swing him around like a baseball bat if she wanted, I think.
Tenor | Shinavar
kaisdjfKHJDSF
I mean he is such a stiff
saetje
@mathtans definitely a huge Spock influence!
aliceapproved
OMG BASEBALL BAT
RebelVampire
veil's number one advice to gemini is to just think of what would spock do
Shen
PFFFFF
RebelVampire
then gemini asks who spock is
aliceapproved
http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=186 < a M O O D
mathtans
Gemini to Wraith: "Dammit Bones!"
RebelVampire
oh i loved that page with the giant to-do list
it was a great visual gag
aliceapproved
I definitely "treat myself" for small tasks when there are still more or bigger tasks to do haha!
Jess
Lol me too
saetje
I was REALLY into Star Trek a while back and almost did some 4-panel Star Trek Gemini Journey AU comics...I don't know if I have the sketches anymore though. Kind of psyched myself out of them
I think everyone works differently. You gotta treat yourself once in a while though!
Tenor | Shinavar
^
Jess
But going back to the characters - we hope to focus on their dynamic more and more. We love all y’all insight tho!
Tenor | Shinavar
reating yourself is importaaant
I LOVE THEIR DYNAMIC AND AM HYPED FOR MORE
mathtans
Their dynamic is mezzoforte.
saetje
yeah I'm loving hearing all your thoughts and getting some insight into how you all are reading the comic. It can be tough when you're so close to something to really 'see' it anymore
I appreciate your thoughts!
aliceapproved
Yes! They're a great duo!
I'm always excited when there's an update and Veil and Gemini are interacting
And yeah! Ofc dude! Lots of pairs of eyes help
mathtans
Just want to say the style of the comic is really interesting... I don't think I've ever really seen it before, just having the one panel. Most trend to pages or 4-panel or whatever. But one panel can really speak volumes, even if it's just a reaction shot, done in this way.
Jess
That means so much to hear!
Tenor | Shinavar
As someone with a messed up wrist I appreciate it too bc scrolling hurts so this worked great
aliceapproved
I think the webtoons layout for it works really well for scrolling! I love reading updates before bed It fits so well!
saetje
Thanks! Honestly it's how I've always 'seen' it and I'm glad you all like that-- It's been a bit of a point of uncertainty for us. I'm hoping in the future we can get some sort of swiping option for mobile devices to swipe between panels on full-screen instead of always clicking
and yes! Webtoons has done well for us too
Kabocha
Yeah, I'll agree - carpal tunnel makes scrolling format hard, but your website is perfectly suited
thank you for having both options!
Jess
I gotta be honest when we made the decision to do it this way - we were so conflicted. We wanted to do this format becuase we envisioned it with simple panels and @saetje really works hard to make things look cinematic
Tenor | Shinavar
omg if you get swipe in I'd be so happy bc I do like 90% of my reading on my phone ;u;
aliceapproved
Yeah, I would definitely love that as a feature in the future. Clicking is fine, but it can be difficult going back and forth and waiting for a website to load
Oh yeah! This story really reads well as a show or film! The storyboard format
RebelVampire
yeah i was skeptical of the one panel thing at first but once i got used to it i thought it was really nice. especially for how much it allows to be fit on any one "page"
saetje
yeah! Tenor, we always wanted it to be REALLY mobile friendly. Like my ideal is to just let the panels fill a mobile screen and swipe to read. We just....aren't really programmers so we haven't figured that out so much yet XD BUT- I'm really happy to hear the one-panel tapping is easy on wrists! I've heard other people call us 'accessible' for that and that was an uninentional side effect but I'm happy to hear it.
aliceapproved
Yeah! Plus, you get cool scenes like the circus sequence back to Gem waking up in bed in the same pose as the juggler
Tenor | Shinavar
It's muchly appreciated too <33
RebelVampire
on a different note, im really intrigued by the fact that gemini's savings are in the form of like actual treasure. and im really curious if thats literally their hard currency, and if not, where did gemini get all that treasure.
Tenor | Shinavar
I think it is bc she says the coffee was a gold coin + a virgin's tear
Superjustinbros
I'm back!
Shen
"a gold coin AND a virgin tear what a rip off"
mathtans
They're paste gems.
aliceapproved
I think it's Mom's allowance to her before she moved
Superjustinbros
And glad you're aiming for a smooth mobile experience with the comic.
Tenor | Shinavar
So I'm curious, if you two are willing to answer this (and it's cool if not!) But what's inspired you guys to tackle this story? :D
Superjustinbros
I have to admit, sticking to one panel per page helps a lot
mathtans
Yeah, maybe Gemini should store up her tears and sell them on the street?
Tenor | Shinavar
omg math
saetje
omg
Superjustinbros
@mathtans
mathtans
Tear-able idea, I know.
Jess
It’s probably a bit different for both of us: We’re huge myth nerds but we felt like there wasn’t a story that really talked about what ppl just starting their journey was like.(edited)
Superjustinbros
oooo
saetje
@Tenor | Shinavar no problem at all! Honestly GJ has been through many iterations including an animated series pitch in 20...12?? It was my and @Jess 's senior project! It was always very heavily myth-inspired because we're really into that. It's a modern hero's journey
Tenor | Shinavar
Oooh~! <3
saetje
but basically what @Jess said
Superjustinbros
Did someone say, animated series?
Jess
Like the feeling of being unprepared to adult and the lack of jobs. The scariness of being on your own. Finding love, and losing it. And the fear of letting people down.
aliceapproved
That's a really good point, a Journey!
Jess
It’s why Gemini’s full name is Gemini Journey
aliceapproved
Also mythology is SO GOSH DANG GOOD
mathtans
I thought that was a clever play on words.
aliceapproved
I love all the mythical creature references!
Jess
And plus—- all this myth jokes Hahahaha
saetje
Yeah. What can we say--- we were starry-eyed animation students once (well, @Jess was a graphic design major)
Superjustinbros
Seconding mythology
and wow, that's quite impressive!
mathtans
Wouldn't want to myth out.
saetje
yes! I'm REALLY into myth, folklore, and fairy tales. Bookshelves are lined with them, and I still don't know everything. It's a really rich topic.
Jess
I was not a animator hahah but I like them. They are awesome
aliceapproved
World Mythology class was one of my all time favorite classes in college haha!
Jess
Me too!!
aliceapproved
and your animated ad was BEAUTIFUL
saetje
same @aliceapproved !
and thank you!
aliceapproved
Seeing Gem and Veil move is gorgeous and I could see little gifs of them interacting
mathtans
As for the question of the half hour, I'm thinking Gemini answered a "want ad" from Veil, looking for a roommate, and she was the only one willing to take the place. Everyone else thought he was too strict, would get upset if they left the milk out.
RebelVampire
oh thats good to know. i did wonder what the significance was in that her name was gemini journey
aliceapproved
when time allows to work on those kinds of things haha!
Jess
I think myths in general tell important truths about people while still being entertaining. I hope our story gives them justice
aliceapproved
You guys totally do!
RebelVampire
veil does seem like the type whod make horrified faces at the milk being left out XD
Jess
Yeah. It’s a play on the Hero’s Journey
aliceapproved
I wonder if Griffins will make an appearance. I love that Teacup manticores exist haha!
saetje
Definitely lots of fights about how to load the dishwasher correctly (if they even have one)
Superjustinbros
lol
Tenor | Shinavar
I believe you guys give them great justice! I's def creative and fun for sure! :D
mathtans
"You bought the powdered soap again...."
RebelVampire
posting a bit early but i feel we are segueing into the next question already
QUESTION 4. Although the world has present-day elements, there are also a slew of magical things. What aspect of the world intrigued you the most and why? Are there tidbits mentioned that you’d love to know more about in the future? Alternatively, is there any magical related creature or being that you’re hoping to see make an appearance in the comic? In regards to actual story canon, do you feel Gemini is familiar with this magical world or that she still has a lot to learn? In what ways do you think magical elements might come into play and make trouble for Gemini? Regardless of magic, what sorts of other conflicts are you hoping to see/do you think we’ll see, especially in regards to Gemini learning to be an adult?
saetje
@aliceapproved honestly one of our downfalls is @Jess and I want to showcase TOO MANY mythological animals b/c we love so many of them and have a lot of ideas for how they'd work in our world. But, to what cost to plot, ugh.
and yeah griffins are like on that list b/c GRIFFINS
Shen
give me werewolves
ill give you a dollar
Tenor | Shinavar
brb
mathtans
Magical dishwasher.
aliceapproved
VERY GOOD
mathtans
Do they have flying cars?
RebelVampire
have we seen a minotaur yet? need some minotaurs up in this joint.
and unicorns
aliceapproved
What I'm interested is the fact that Gemini is an Antlantean and I wonder how that factors into future story elements if any
And yes, PLEASE griffins, unicorns, and minotaurs
saetje
WELL, here's something I think I can give away that hasn't exactly been pointed out a lot of times in our story yet (we are getting to it): there aren't any humans in the GJ universe (http://geminijourney.com/index.php?c=74) so a concept of a werewolf to them would really be a "werehuman", haha. But there are other wolfed-figured beings like Wulvers from Irish myth.(edited)
Superjustinbros
Unicorns, you say?
~~suddenly thinking about centaurs~
aliceapproved
YEAH THAT'S RIGHT! I remember giggling at that "HUMAN TALE"
Human tale must be so boring to them XD
It's like OUR world, but NO MAGIC
oh wait, they're horror stories
saetje
^^ yes
mathtans
Is Gemini actually a magical girl?
saetje
I MEAN, there are some strong "Princess Tutu" influences already and even more so coming up
Shen
magical girls are my jaaaaaaaaaaam
RebelVampire
did notice gemini was an antlantean, didnt realize there were no humans
i actually hope the gemini veil fight happens
Superjustinbros
What does the transformation sequence look like
RebelVampire
so we can see gemini's home
that sounds amazing
Superjustinbros
I must know
mathtans
Gemini is a duck?
saetje
how did you know?
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
a WHAT
Jess
Nooooo you figured it out
aliceapproved
I wanna meet Gemini's mom haha!
I've seen the art but gosh
or Veil interacting with them
Honestly, Veil and Gemini meet the other's parent(s)
mathtans
Waiting for the episode where Cupid accidentally shoots Veil with an arrow.
Jess
Yeah admittedly - the character designs for gems mom @saetje has done I’m really digging. I can’t wait for her appearance
mathtans
Veil falls in love with a dial tone. Very embarassing.
Jess
“Accidentally”
I love that
We need to rewrite the next episode stat
mathtans
He meant to shoot Gemini but Veil protected her.
saetje
um YEAH Math is going to be our new head writer
awww
mathtans
aliceapproved
LOL
Superjustinbros
Math, you should re-write all our comics/stories
saetje
omg agree
aliceapproved
I think you guys have a great Valentine's idea strip coming!
Superjustinbros
mind blown from the idea of a Math/SJB production
puns and jokes and visual gags everywhere
RebelVampire
i hope gemini's mom is super awesome. i feel like she must be and gemini wants to be awesome like her
mathtans
Let me try to get to 10 people reading my own comic first, maybe.
Superjustinbros
lol
I read your stuff and it's pretty rad @mathtans
mathtans
Would Gemini's dad still be in the picture, I wonder?
Superjustinbros
Gemini's uncle?
aliceapproved
Gemini's grunkle?
Shen
My dad? your dad?
saetje
hahaha, Uncle Saggitarius, Auntie Pisces...
aliceapproved
OMG
Jess
All dads
Superjustinbros
OMG
aliceapproved
HAHA!!! Great idea!
Superjustinbros
I dunno why but i always caught onto the name Saggitarius
Shen
in a shocking twist, veil isn't Gemini's love interest hes her dad
mathtans
Gemini could have two moms for all we know.
saetje
LORD
Superjustinbros
and it's totally not because I love centaurs
mathtans
(I now ship Gemini's parents, I guess...?)
aliceapproved
For Halloween, there probably should be a "Scary Human Tale" and it's filing taxes
Shen
XD
RebelVampire
well to be fair, dont need to be blood related for him to be her dad in a way. i mean he is basically pushing for her to succeed, teaching her stuff, and generally being the responsible adult
Shen
Veil is her dad confirmed
he loves and supports her and wants the best for her even when shes at her worst
Superjustinbros
daww
Shen
ps saetje and Jess i hope you guys are in DMs with each other just screaming about all the dumb shit we're saying XD
Superjustinbros
lmao
Jess
Are... you here with us
Superjustinbros
I never thought of CTP's featured creators ever doing that
aliceapproved
Repeating what a previous comment mentioned, it'll be fun to see how Veil falls for Gemini, like the spark that ignited his feelings for her and hopefully for Gemini in turn
Shen
LMAO
mathtans
Veil is actually a magic clone of her dad that was sent by the ghost of her grandfather, Thor?
saetje
oh, @Jess is my S/O so we're just chatting in our living room together and loving everything y'all say
Jess
But honestly this has been so inspiring
Shen
oh even better!
Tenor | Shinavar
BACK. #4: THe aspect that inrigues me the most is how diverse the world is and how it just is all one big melting pot. It's colorful and you've no idea what's around the corner. :D I'm curious if something like a Wendigo might get seen! :D
Superjustinbros
Daww, that's cute! (edited)
also WB!
Tenor | Shinavar
THaaaaank
Superjustinbros
np~
brb for a sec
mathtans
Wendigos is scary stuff. O.o
Tenor | Shinavar
Yes they are
saetje
I LOVE the myth of Wendigo! No plans, esp. because they start out as human, but. I enjoy that one a lot
Tenor | Shinavar
But also like, one of my favorites so-
That's fair!
RebelVampire
can never see wendigo in a positive light. 2spooky.
mathtans
Wendigone.
Shen
that eliminates vampires, too....
RebelVampire
i hope there are phoenixes. and i hope gemini doesnt know them offhand and freaks out when one bursts into flames.
aliceapproved
Would aliens fall into the category or is that too sci-fi?
Lol a fantasy world that has stories that are sci-fi
Jess
But what if we made a chain. And it’s a reheaded wendigo that sells burgers with square patties
Tenor | Shinavar
Y R U MEAN TO THAT CHILD REBEl
omg
oMG
plz
Jess
I mean —-
mathtans
Oh, phoenixes are fun.
aliceapproved
Phoenix chicks!!!
Tenor | Shinavar
"We sell Hyumahn meat"
aliceapproved
Little baby Phoenixes pls haha!
Shen
phoenix lady dating a merman
aliceapproved
Fresh from death!
I mean Rebirth!
mathtans
Jess: I got that.
Sassy twitter extra.
saetje
We've been throwing around a phoenix story idea! They're also a personal favorite
again: too many great myth/fairy tale creatures we love, guuh.
aliceapproved
Again as said earlier, I'm really happy that Kappas made an appearance, too! I love it when mythical creatures from all over the world are in one place together
Shen
i just love how he knew how defeat the kappa lol
mathtans
"Why's that bird hanging around the Vietnamese shop?" "It's a Pho Enix."
Shen
BOOO MATH XD
saetje
IE: we thought of Veil and Gem "babysitting" a sphinx and Gem keeps feeding it puns and popsicle riddles (junk food) when it needs, like, existential riddles for nutrients, ha.
RebelVampire
yes i do think theres a great mixture of things from tons of diff cultures. it really makes the world extra super colorful.
Tenor | Shinavar
AWH
Yes plz sphinx bby
RebelVampire
i bet veil has some great existential riddles
mathtans
Aw, those are cute drawings.
aliceapproved
AAAAWW
Shen
GOSH
Tenor | Shinavar
I'll hate it because the puns will hurt so much but UGGGH IT'D BE SO CUTE I'LL DIE FROM IT
Shen
SLEEPY VEIL MELTING MY HEART
Beyonce - Don’t Hurt Yourself
OMG CUTEEEEEEE
Kabocha
Awww, Veil, that is just way too cute ^_^
aliceapproved
Your sketches are SO GOOD
mathtans
(Speaking of, when do we get the pastries that I saw on Veil's plate for the CTP today?)
aliceapproved
Your guys' ideas are SO GOOD
saetje
older concepts BUT. Again. there are SO MANY potential for fun-myth-animal stories we tend to get lost in them, haha. I don't know how much/if any will make it into the comic
I'll mail them out Math!
Jess
The pastries were there all along. In your heart
aliceapproved
Do you guys plan to do little intermission stories before doing a big arc like this one?
saetje
yes! Just like the roach comic
Jess
Yup!
aliceapproved
Like the dragon cockroach felt like a good mini-story before we got a meaty story
saetje
we plan to do little minis between bigger arcs
aliceapproved
YEAH!
Tenor | Shinavar
Sweet! :D
Jess
We want to alternate between large stories and smaller world building stuff
Tenor | Shinavar
Exciiiiiited
mathtans
Anyway, gtg, baby needs me. Best with the comic!
RebelVampire
good luck math~!
Jess
Best!! And thanks for stopping by!!
saetje
thanks for coming Math! Best wishes
aliceapproved
Bye, Math!!!
Tenor | Shinavar
Oh more queestions~ Due to how your comic is constructed, do you find you have more time to work on it, and/or you got a good healthy buffer?
BYE MATH
saetje
oh that's a really good question Tenor!
Originally, for like the last two years we've had almost a 6 mo queue, because also only update bi-weekly. But we recently ran out of that queue because LIFE and freelance hit us hard XDD so we've been trying to catch up somewhat successfully. As far as page-speed creation, I think it can vary widely but both @Jess and I have gotten a lot faster than we used to be. When we're really able to focus after-work hours (no life and freelance jams getting too much in the way) we can do about 4-6 panels in a single week, about 10-20 hours between us
The thing is though, one of the draw-backs of single panel shots is you DO have to show a lot more, I think, than just a page-layout comic.
Superjustinbros
Oooh!
That's interesting~
also bye Math
saetje
like, if we took those panels and made them into a page layout we would get away with showing less, I think, and possibly saving some time? But it's hard to gauge because also there's panel layout and flow and page composition to consider that we don;t have to worry as much about
Jess
Yeah I was gonna say the same thing. Actually the full panels largest drawback is that you have to draw sooooo much. In a comic with many panels you could cut to a talking head suddenly - in ours, because of the layout we have to be very careful not to take them out of context too quickly and too frequently
saetje
yeah good point Jess
Tenor | Shinavar
That's a good point. It's such an interesting thing o consider because - I guess the easiest way I can describe it is like the illustrations in children's books. They can be just so world building and easter-eggy so it's interesting to consider the differences!
Jess
So it’s a mixed bag. On one hand you are making only one image at a time. Sometimes even usi a lot of the same assets. But on the other - it’s a full color illustration and having to show minute changes in expression to keep the pace from seeming too quick can be a challenge too
Yeah that too!!
RebelVampire
im curious if you took printing into consideration. idk if youve printed the comic before or ever intended too. just wondering how a single panel per page comic would work in that case.
Superjustinbros
Yeah, I see what you're saying, do one-panel updates but fill them with lots and lots of detail?
saetje
or if the pacing reads too slow too- panel comics (or comics made by animators in general) can also be too slow b/c us animators LOVE showing those minute pose/expression changes, which can sometimes read slow. I'm always stressed about the pace, ha.
whitneyandcompany
Hi! Love the comic
Tenor | Shinavar
I could see, in print form, largely remaining single panel per page, or for the more fast paced ones tweak to 2-3 on the page
saetje
@Jess and I always imagined the comic a digital-first production, but if we were to go to print it'd likely be something along the lines of what Ava's Demon did. Just, single panels-per-page. But @Jess being the graphic designer who often works in print too might have some other ideas on that
Hi @whitneyandcompany thank yoouu
Jess
So when creating one of the things we did as a priority is consider the mobile screen first. Which is the opposite of what is the norm. If we were to do a book it would be handled where we put a very limited amount of images on a page. Maybe 1-2 similar to Ava’s demon
aliceapproved
Yeah, the drawback of single-paged stuff is exactly that. Focusing more on some things, like a character going through emotions can read more slowly even tho it's important to the story
Tenor | Shinavar
ugh ilu for the mobile love lol
Superjustinbros
Just thought I'd say before the CTP ends- good luck with the rest of Gemini Journey, @saetje and @Jess. It's really coming along well and you're definitely got a good story here to tell as well.
aliceapproved
But it works so well for mobile scrolling, it's so friendly!
Tenor | Shinavar
Like I can't express how frusrating it is for me bc there's SO many people who own their own sites and it's not mobile friendly
saetje
thanks @Superjustinbros have a good night!
aliceapproved
Maybe you could have 3 panels per page if printed?
Tenor | Shinavar
I live on the go I NEED THAT MOBILITY ;n;
Superjustinbros
You too, and thanks for being here, @saetje!
saetje
@Tenor | Shinavar I got to be honest with you- as a webcomic fan and reader for MANY years I feel that
Kabocha
I really look forward to reading this in the future. It's enjoyable and to be honest, I wasn't entirely sure what I was in for at first... BUT it is a pleasure to read!
Superjustinbros
And cya to you as well, @Jess.
Jess
Awwww thanks!!
Kabocha
Thank you for creating an amazing comic. :3
Superjustinbros
Anytime!
RebelVampire
yeah im glad priority was placed on mobile because it is basically the way thing are going, whether ppl want that or not.
Superjustinbros
^
Tenor | Shinavar
YES it was a fun surprise! (And def last minute for me bc I didn't realize it was something I could read lmao OTL)
saetje
Thank you @Kabocha for your wonderful insights and kind comments! Thanks for coming
RebelVampire
and its definitely a beautiful comic. i think the pacing works out great as well~!
whitneyandcompany
You guys are the reason I downloaded the web toon app, I look forward to every update
aliceapproved
Thank you for making such an inspirational and gorgeous comic!
Jess
Awww well it means so much to hear you guys say that
aliceapproved
I always look forward to your updates!
Superjustinbros
In that case, cya everyone!
aliceapproved
And yes, you're the reason I downloaded the web toon app, too!
saetje
oommmg @whitneyandcompany , thank you
Shen
im glad i got to read this story its so good so far and i cant wait to read more~
Jess
It’s been really humbling for us to put our work out there. But I am so incredibly touched right now
Superjustinbros
Glad to hear~
saetje
Thank you @Shen! I look forward to more of your comic as well! I'm glad you like it.
Shen
GOSH <3
saetje
Yeah everyone, thank you for coming and letting us know you thoughts It has meant the WORLD to us
aliceapproved
You guys are amazing and I love your work
Tenor | Shinavar
Thank you for signing up so we could disect it /shot
RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB END!
Sadly, this wraps up this week’s Thursday Book Club chat for now. Thank you so much to everyone for reading and joining us! We want to give a special thank you to Tracy MacLauchlan & Yesenia Carrero, as well, for making Gemini Journey. If you liked the comic, make sure to support Tracy MacLauchlan & Yesenia Carrero’s efforts however you’re able to~!
Read and Comment: http://geminijourney.com/
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Comic Tea Party- Thursday Book Club
Next week’s Thursday Book Club will be about The Hunter of Fenaur by CalimonGraal. For participants, you have the next week to read as much of the comic as you would like~! We hope to see you on Thursday, September 20th, from 5PM to 7PM PDT for the chat in #thursday_bookclub!
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ok so today’s edition of what-manhwa-should-i-read-while-i’m-sitting-in-my-bed-post-wakeup was antinomy (more specifically the 6 translated ch out and then the rest of the like 50 ch of raws) and bruh. truly what i imagine kdramas to be since i don’t actually watch them
it was intriguing from the translations so i decided to check out the raws bc i don’t like waiting if i have all the shit right there but tbh i’m not too sure if i’m gonna follow the translations now that i’ve caught up on the raws.
i got more interested in the side pairing than the main once the side was introduced? i mean yeah from my vague understanding of the raws due to a lack of korean knowledge it’s implied they’re like adopted siblings and it’s also kind of an abusive relationship compared to the main but ALSO why did you give us nothing for them? i was interested to get more for that pairing and the author kind of did give us stuff w the flashback but also idc about the gratuitous smut from the main, it gets tiring after a bit
also re: the main, i don’t feel too strongly abt them. i think i would need translations for this bc i think it does get covered but idk why blondie falls for brown haired dude
still lol at the red herring they pulled w the black haired dude. first intro he’s hella sus and even when fox (who i’m assuming is the pink haired dude) gets sort of introduced you’re still like ‘well either one or both of them were directly involved in the brown haired dude’s accident (and yeah i should know these names but i’m so bad at remembering korean names) but regardless black haired dude has to be involved at least indirectly. but fucking turns out (spoiler but also i may be wrong since idk korean) that it was all fox’s doing ?? i was honestly yelling when they fully revealed it was him and why he pulled that shit bc it’s sort of cliche but also i was still surprised somewhat. but anyway the later ch of season 2 (?) were so kdrama-like i was like ‘bruh...’
a lil confused abt blondie’s powers bc i feel like they got dropped like a few ch into the story slash were like a forgotten detail in the present time story? like if he can read minds ... couldn’t he solve the mystery of who fucked w the brown haired dude in the past p early on? bc i’m sure black haired dude and/or fox should have at least some thoughts abt it in brown haired dude’s presence. unless those 2 are ALSO ppl he can’t read the minds of? idk i just never saw anything that looked like mind reading to me so i’m assuming it was dropped but also is it gonna be a detail that’s gonna be delved more into later? unless the author is just gonna treat as a fact of life rather than any deeper special power or whatever, then that would kind of suck.
anyway i’m kind of surprised there’s gonna be a s3, but also i was like ‘what abt the drama they’re filming’ upon reading the last ch of s2 so i guess they’re gonna try to finish that up and then add in getting-outed drama to keep the story going. tbh i hope the ship of black haired dude/fox comes back even if fox is kind of messed up and also prob in jail for the rest of the story.
otherwise idk abt following the translations, the story’s not particularly intriguing to me aka not something i’m eager to find out exactly what’s going on like idk penthouse xxx. and even if i do like black haired guy/fox, i’m not particularly into the couple dynamics in this story so lmao
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