#eg: what he is ready to do to see burt

[atlanticsea]

Hello, I really loved the soldier, poet, king quiez!! Ik u have already done a thingy on the soldier, but as someone who got soldier I’m just curious about it. Is there anything else about the soldier you could perhaps tell us about?

Hi!! Hmmm I didn't necessarily leave anything out of my previous breakdown that I can think of.

I think I can clarify something I said about rules and the difference between King and Soldier though - I imagine the archetypal Soldier to internalise rules a lot more, thus feeling more pressure from themselves, while Kings feel a lot more external pressure. Here's a fun tidbit: for "Who taught you about guilt?" the initial Soldier answer was "myself," which I then replaced by "God." I changed it because I found it broader and more evocative, but maybe I shouldn't have, haha (and, of course, the King answer is "the world.")

Wait actually there is something I didn't talk about -- the archetypal Soldier keeps going no matter what and is so adamant that it will follow the rules it internalised because if those rules are wrong, then their entire life kind of crumbles. That crumbling can be a good thing, of course, but it's still terrifying. I mentioned in my Poet breakdown that each archetype is more preoccupied with either the past, present or future, and I think that also applies in terms of where each archetype is scared of causing harm. Kings are scared their decisions will hurt people in the long run, Poets are scared their attempts to affect change are hurting people now (and generally they feel at odds with the world and are simply worried that them Being Themselves is going to make people leave), and Soldiers are scared that their actions have hurt people in the past.

In fact, because of how I wrote the quiz, the archetypal Soldier is kind of convinced that it hurt people in the past -- it knows it will go to hell, and it considers that hell is doubt: in rules, in duty, in what is good, in itself.

Now I'll again repeat my disclaimer and say that this is ONLY true about the archetype itself, this abstolutely does not mean that those things are true about you, I just created a quiz for my friends, etc etc 😭

#spk #answered #anonymous #typing this i realised that irv severance is like. peak soldier #not just bc he soooo fully internalises rules because of his military background #but also because of how he will use his convictions like a battering ram #eg: painting over and over and over a memory he has of his innie to make sense of it #eg: what he is ready to do to see burt #and doubt was his hell!! he didnt want to doubt the company!!! #but his world crumbled around him and he lived through it #and came out of the rubble even more soldier-y #with rules that he really made for himself this time #oh irv <3 #oh irv </3

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@syncrovox:

Yeah, I totally get what you're saying, but I also understand, as a trans person myself, why someone would look at Jodie and say he's trans. All the points you brought up are important, I think the way it was written has a lot to do with the fact that it's the 70s and the show was being written by cishet people and therefore they weren't clear on the difference between sexuality and gender. The way Jodie seems excited about the potential effects of 1/?  Hormone Replacement Therapy ("my hips will become ROUNDED!") and the way he talks about feeling feminine as a child both speak to the trans experience. What was said in the video about how a cis person wouldn't just say "I'll change my gender to be with you" is true, I don't think we would have gotten this story line if it weren't for cishet people writing it. At the same time, 2/?  It lends a lot of emotion to what Jodie is going through when we read it through the lens of him being cis, which is what you have done. I think both perspectives are valid, and I personally view him as genderfluid. I think it gives us the best of both worlds with him still making a big sacrifice to be with the person he loves (getting this surgery, ect) but also with the gender feelings he states not being invalid  (Oh I forgot 3/3 on that last one. Sorry for rambling on an older post of yours but I'm really into Soap rn)

Hey, no worries! I’m always down to talk about Soap and I love the enthusiasm. I hope you’re ready for mutual rambling 😂 I could honestly go on about this show and this particular storyline for ages.

I’m glad you brought up Jodie’s apparent excitement over the potential effects of taking hormones because I didn’t address or examine that bit of dialogue before. We for sure have different interpretations of that scene. I honestly feel like him enthusiastically going into detail of what he expects to happen to his body (”My hips will become rounded! My facial hair will fall out!”) is him trying to get a rise out of Burt. In that particular scene he’s already been teasing him and I think he’s still playing that up. That back and forth of Burt being freaked out and Jodie confidently and playfully egging him on is pretty much their whole relationship in the first half of season 1. 

I can understand the references to Jodie being more feminine as a kid being relatable to trans viewers. I also can see, for example, the story about him shaving his legs with the toy razor as typical behaviour for a gay, gender non-conforming kid. Especially one that perhaps wants to be like his mother because he’s closer to her than he is to his father. (I mean we don’t know that for sure but I don’t recall him really talking about his dad at any point in the series.)  As a gnc lesbian that makes sense to me.

I still maintain that every scene where Jodie discusses his decision to transition with the family (the two aforementioned scenes and the one at the Tate house) he is keeping up the façade that it’s his own personal choice so as not to out Dennis. When he explains the plan to Dennis he never tells him that he feels like a woman. Jodie literally tells Dennis “I’m here becoming a girl for you” while in the hospital. And his gender identity is never brought up after he decides not to go through with surgery and leaves the hospital. (Yes, the transition storyline is brought up throughout the rest of the series. But more in a just a “Hey that’s something that happened” way). As you said, he could be genderfluid. Modern viewers are free to refer to him as such. But because that term originated in the 90s it would be anachronistic to do so.

To your point of “What was said in the video about how a cis person wouldn't just say “I'll change my gender to be with you" is true”, I kind of touched on this in my OP but I didn’t dive too deep. Yes, in modern day North America this is true. It’s easy to look at Soap with a modern, western worldview and think “There’s no way a cis person would do that”. But throughout history, including the time period where Soap takes place, and still in many countries today, this was and is a reality. In the past many people in countries where gay marriage is now legal did choose to (socially and/or medically) transition in order to marry or simply live and have a relationship with their partners. (I was honestly disappointed in Matt Baume for not addressing this in his video as he is a historian of gay rights and gay marriage). Today in countries like Iran where being gay is illegal, sometimes punishable by death, cis people do have to tell their partner “I’ll change my gender to be with you”. Iran currently has the second highest rate of sex reassignment surgeries in the world. 

Like I said before, everyone is free to read this character and storyline as they wish. But the more I reflect on it the more I think we should meet this show where it’s at. A lot of fans see Jodie as trans, but at the same time scoff at the writers for how this storyline is written. The way I see it you can either have a fairly well-written story about a gay, cis man, struggling with personal issues that were very real in the 70s, written by straight people who were still getting their footing with writing gay characters. Or you can have a confusing, sloppily written story about a maybe trans? person, written by cis people who just didn’t know what they were talking about. If we go with the former interpretation, is he no longer relatable to trans viewers? If we go with the latter, how far are we willing to go to find trans representation and how much credit are we willing to give the showrunners? 

#discussion #soap #syncrovox

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their little miracle; chris evans

pairings: chris evans x reader

warnings: fluff and a bit of swearing

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its been 8 months,since you heard that you would be giving a little miracle of yours and chris, soon. You still remember the day when both of you saw the baby for yhe first time, as it moved around your belly.

you remember how Chris held your hand when he saw your baby, and said, "it's ours" while crying, you remember the day when he found out it was a baby girl, and he was so happy, and when he told his family about it, they were crying too, because their son's dream came true. Since then he never left your side. Well, he haven't announced it on the internet too . He used to talk to your baby, late at nights, when she won't let you sleep, by endless kickings.

"Hey honey, don't do that to Mama." He says, slowly, and calmly as you laid down next to him, and his hands on your belly rubbing it gently.

"I won't leave your side, y/n." He whispered softly and kissed you. During those times, when Chris got intimate with you, for eg, he would kiss you more often, and lay next to you all the time, hold your hands all the time, you used to blush alot, as if it was a school crush, you could say it was the hormones.

"i love you so much." He says and you smile.

"I love you too and more." You reply and he wraps his arm around you, and kiss your head, and then you gasped as soon as your baby kicks you, because you were giving all the attention to her daddy and not her and even daddy didn't give her attention.

"alright baby, i love you too." He says as he keeps a hand on your belly and you laughed at how your daughter already had control over her Dad, even before her birth.

your smile grew wider, as all those thoughts came to your mind, and Chris noticed how you were smiling, and thinking about some things. He smiled looking at how adorable you looked.

"what're you smiling at, sweetheart." He asks as he comes closer, and kisses you gently.

"thinking of how our girl, already has control over her dad." He smiles as he heard you, it was a very different feeling for both of you.

"Well, trust me, the queen has more control than the princess." He says referring to you and you roll your eyes.

"oh stop!" You said as both of you chuckled, just then, to ruin the moment his phone rang. He groaned, and you laughed at him.

"Always messing up my moments, with my queen." He said, and you blushed at how he made you feel so good.

"Chris, i'm sorry to call you now." His manager spoke, as chris answered.

"No its fine, Joshua? what did you need?" He replied.

"Well, the agency has been calling up alot, for your photo shoot, and i tried to decline it, because you wanted to stay with your wife, but they aren't listening , and said you're their hope."

"alright fine! I'll do it."

"ah thank god!! I'll arrange the dates and timing and inform you."

"Alright!" Chris says as he ends the conversation and looks at you, smiling.

"What's wrong?" You asked

"I have to stay away from you for a couple of hours."

"and what would be the reason?" You asked as he sits next to you and pull you closer to him, and you put your head on his shoulder.

"There's this photo shoot they need me to do it and I honestly don't wanna stay away from you, even if its for a couple of hours, you're now close to your date, I can't just leave you here all alone, when you'd need me." He spoke.

"Chris, i'll be fine, you're worrying too much, babe. I can manage on my own, honey!"

"I know you can, i just don't want to be away from you and our daughter." You smiled as he said that, how your daughter's and his bond was so strong.

"babe!!" You squeeled and hugged him and he kissed you multiple times. Just then the phone rings and he groans again.

"Its the agency, i'll have to take it, i'm so sorry!!"

"Its fine, honey." You said and he answered the call, going into the living room to talk while you watched some TV

"Thank you so much, Chris for joining us!" He said and chris smiled.

"The pleasure is all mine!"

"Is there any arrangements we can do for you?" Just as those words left his mouth, he smiles thinking of an idea.

"Yes! Could i get my wife with me? I want her to be next to me."

"Ofcourse sir! It's our pleasure to have her with us, and we can have some couple photoshoot too!"

"Thank you! See you, soon!" He says and walks to you.

Chris comes back to you and tells you that he's made arrangements for you to come with me, you denied at first but he made you to agree to it, typical christopher  and then the day comes when you had to go with him. You were nervous about something which he had completely forgot about. Announcing about your little miracle.

As soon as both of you entered, the photographers welcomed you both so warmly, and as expected they were shocked by the news, and they were happy for both of you.

As soon as chris finished his part of the work, you two had to pose together, it was all cute with him, and then the photographer requested that you should have a photo or two of your own with your bump and Chris happily agreed to it.

Just after you completed your work, you told Chris, that now seems to be the right time to tell everyone about it. No , only family and some of his close friends knew about this, so he was just concerned about how his fans and co workers would annouce, but you knew things would fall back into a perfect position.

"I posted it." He said and breathed.

"i did too!" You said and smiled.

Just a second later, yours and his phone were filled with notifications, hundreds to thousands, and all were really happy about it, because all of them understood that this was Chris's dream and you could only turn into his reality.

a week or two has passed, Chris had to go through a lot of press , and interviews where the main interest was your pregnancy. As you waited for him to get over with the last interview for the month, and after that he promised he'd take a break, he comes to you.

"How was it?" You asked as he kissed you and sat next to you.

"It was good, i was happy to tell them, how you made me happy, and they obviously wanted you, but i said you were resting."

"Thank you —*gasps* oh shit!" You said and his eyes came out if his eye sockets.

"Baby what happened?!"

"She's coming omg!! My water broke!!!" You said and he panicked, he was roaming around the house finding the baby bag, and you felt contractions, which were going on for a day which you tried to ignore.

"Chris where the fuck are you?!" You yelled, as the contractions hit you again.

"I found it!! Let's go." He said as he helped you get up and rush you to the hospital, through out the ride he didn't leave your hand, and just made you breathe, but it was true, when you're about to give birth, your temper loses, and poor Chris had to listen.

Now you were in the waiting room, with him and yours and his family started to visit you both.

"Hey!" Your mom said and rushed to hug you as you breathed.

"Hey Mom! I'm good? Are you?" You asked and she laughed at you.

"I know, the temper, i gave birth to three kids!" She said and hugged Chris, and he chuckled and stopped as soon as you gave him a death glare.

"come on! my little girl needs a break, how are you feeling honey?" Your dad says and you roll your eyes.

"P A I N!" You said and then your siblings laugh at you.

"Y/n , for real, you need to calm down, also guess what i already have done half of the preparations for my niece!!" your brother says while your sister argues with him that it was she who did it, and that made you laugh, and Chris smile looking at you.

His mother stayed longer with you but then you told her to go, because she looked tired, and she agreed, time passed and you were ready to deliver the baby, Chris started to breathe heavily, he was nervous, more than you.

"Its gonna be fine, babe!" You said and he nods

"I'll be next to you the whole time." He says and you nod.

Slowly the doctors start to give you instructions to how to push till they count till 10 and you agree to it, clearly understanding their instructions.

"Push!" They said and you pushed while your groaned and your grip on chris's hand tightened.

"You're doing amazing honey!" He encouraged and honestly, that made you stay strong till the end.

Just few more pushes later, the cries of your baby girl were heard and you sighed as both of you burts into tears. They laid your little miracle on top of you as Chris adored both of you, he starts to wipe his tears, and the doctor takes your little girl away.

"No where are you taking her!" Chris says and you chuckled at him.

"they're cleaning her, she'll be back soon, with us." You said and he looked at you with  a smile.

"You did so good today!" he says and you smiled at him.

"It wasn't possible without you." You said and he shook his head.

"You're the most strongest women i've ever seen, and  how beautiful you look today! Your glowing baby!" He says and you laugh as he pressed his lips onto yours in a sweet and filled with love kiss.

"I love you so much." He says

"I love you more!" You reply and they bring the baby back to you, and Chris holds her, tears falling from his eyes, as he met his daughter.

"She's so beautiful just like her Mama!" He says and you feel your tears falling.

"Daddy loves you and your Mama so much! He'll do everything to protect both of you!" He says as he holds her in his arms and kisses her multiple times on her head.

"Okay now, Mama also needs attention!" You said and he laughed and kissed you again, and just then you met your family, already waiting and excited to greet their grand child, neice and goddaughter.

Yours and Chris's mother couldn't hold back tears and were crying with joy, while Scott hugged you and cried and you were crying because he was crying , which made everyone laugh and later Scott Shanna, Carly and your siblings already started giving suggestions for the baby names for your little miracle.

It was the best day of your life, you for the first time witnessed how one life can bring so much happiness to so many people, and you were only concerned about your husband, who was on cloud 9 because of his happiness and you couldn't stop smiling because of him. You won't be able to forget this day ever!

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done with your request!!hope you liked it❤️

also, but Daddy!Chris is making me cry😭😭

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