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myartsing · 1 month
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I got too excited for spring starting and now it's minus 1 degree and i'm getting a spring cold :(
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holyprincenerd · 1 year
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yes yes rigged this cha cha that but please let’s not ignore this right now:
https://www.aftonbladet.se/podcasts/ab/episode/355975 Swedish “eurovision expert” Tobbe Ek (for those of you who aren’t Swedish, this is the same guy who accused Måneskin of doing coke on live tv back in 2021) and his posse of minions decided that it was time to spread some absolutely hateful rhetoric against the people of Finland by calling them shitty, idiotic, telling them they should be ashamed of not voting for Sweden (??? literally what???) etc etc, while also dragging in other contestants like Lord of the Lost and insulting them as a means of questioning why the Finnish public voted for them but not for Sweden. (You know. Because it totally doesn’t make any sense at all that a country known for having the most metal bands per capita in the world would vote for Lord of the Lost. Not at all.) 
As the cherry on top of this xenophobic shit cake, they started to go on about how “There’s no way there were ten contestants who were better than Sweden this year.” (Again. Not only disrespecting the other contestants, but them pretending not to grasp the concept of a country known for preferring heavier music choosing to vote mostly for bands this year... Yeah... Couldn’t be their preferences...)
Again, this man is considered a Eurovision expert here in Sweden, yet this is the type of behaviour he and his coworkers display over a nonissue like the Finnish public not voting for Sweden this year. If there’s something shameful here, it’s this.
To reiterate: These are three grown-ass well past 40-year old people having a genuine meltdown over one (1) singular country not voting for them.
Why are we giving Tobbe Ek (and his irrelevant coworkers) a platform, again?
EDIT:
Hoo boy, there’s more. Because of course there is.
ALRIGHT here’s an article from one of our tabloids using quite suspiciously colonialistic sounding rhetoric about Finland being “the kingdom’s previous eastern half”.
https://www.expressen.se/noje/finska-sveket-mot-sverige-gav-noll-poang-efter-uppmaningen-rosta-taktiskt/
The specific quote in Swedish: “Tv-tittarna i tidigare östra rikshalvan gav nämligen Sverige noll(!) poäng under Eurovisionfinalen på lördagen.”
Translation: “TV viewers in [our] kingdom’s previous eastern half gave namely zero(!) points to Sweden during the Eurovision finale on Saturday.”
Yeah, Johan Bratell (the writer of the article) is technically not wrong about Finland having been a part of Sweden. But why bring this up now? This was so clearly meant as a condescending insult.
The article also talks about a throwaway comment that the Finnish commentator Mikko Silvennoinen made about tactical voting (or more specifically, an anonymous comment he read out loud about tactical voting). From my understanding this was a joke reference to the previous elections which took place recently in Finland and forced a portion of the Finnish public to vote tactically as an attempt to block a far-right party from getting into the parliament. It’s embarrassing how much these people are reaching.
And even if they were voting tactically, so what? Sweden won. Why are we so focused on the public vote of one (1) country, Jesus Christ this is embarrassing.
EDIT 2: WHY THIS MATTERS. A LOT.
For those of you who are not in the know about Swedish politics, these statements are reflecting some far-right political views that have their roots all the way back in the times when Sweden ruled over Finland. In recent memory, our far-right political party Sverigedemokraterna claimed that the Swedish minority group Tornedalians are not Swedish, because they may speak local dialects that blend Finnish into Swedish, or speak the minority language Meänkieli. Coincidentally, Meänkieli just so happens to be a minority language that blends Finnish and Swedish, as it is mostly spoken by people who live by the Torneå river, i.e. the Finnish-Swedish border. Here’s an article about this controversy (however you may not be able to read it unless you’re subscribed to said newspaper): https://www.dn.se/asikt/orimligt-att-tornedalingar-inte-skulle-vara-svenskar/?fbclid=IwAR33K_UVRhXlJhyPd3gY7GDXN_lotUdrtM1AeL-nRzWE26Tmq5BFE0lIUzw
Sverigedemokraterna also believe that the Swedish minority group of Sweden Finns should essentially cut their ties to their Finnish roots and that they should not be able to be citizens of both Finland and Sweden. https://aip.nu/sverigedemokraterna-och-de-dubbla-medborgarskapen/
This sort of rhetoric is ridiculously common here, and in situations like the ones that have occurred in light of the ESC, they almost never get called out. Because it’s common. Because it’s okay to call Finnish people names and to use colonial rhetoric against all Finns, both those who live in Finland and those who live in Sweden. Because this is “friendly banter.” Mind you, as someone who technically belongs to both of the aforementioned minority groups I’m completely fine with the actually friendly banter and piss taking that we usually partake in, because it is just that. Friendly. But this is not it. This is actually harmful. I have never seen so many Swedish people attacking Finns on social media as I’ve seen these past few days. The usual colonialistic and fennophobic insults have started to rear their ugly heads: People have started to insult the Finnish language (a fennophobic sentiment that goes way back to the days when Finland was under Swedish rule and the Swedish tried to get rid of the language), they have started to insult the way Finns look (goes back to fennophobic rhetoric of Finns essentially not being “white enough”), etcetera. For more information on how the Swedish government treated the Sweden Finns and Tornedalians (the fact that they tried to abolish both the Meänkieli language and the Finnish language from Sweden and have even done skull measurements as an attempt to prove that these minority groups are not equal to Swedes), here’s another article: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/norrbotten/regeringen-tillsatter-sanningskommission
For those of you who speak Finnish and are interested in the topic, the book Kansankodin pimeämpi puoli by Tapio Tamminen goes into both issues, with photographic evidence of skull measurement incidents among other things. Meanwhile, the Finnish media is mostly just reporting on the tomfoolery of these “journalists.” Sure, there are a lot of Finns who are acting out as well and spreading hateful rhetoric against Swedes, but the difference here is that one group is punching up, while the other is punching down.
Whether Tobbe Ek, Jenny Ågren, Markus Larsson and Johan Bratell meant to cause this does not matter. They’ve still done it, in the case of the former group, they’ve even dragged other Europeans (and Australians!) into this mess.
They’ve gone ahead and spread fennophobic rhetoric on huge platforms: Sweden’s biggest national tabloids. They should be held accountable for this.
To reiterate: ALL THIS OVER THE FINNISH PUBLIC “NOT VOTING FOR SWEDEN” DURING THE EUROVISION SONG CONTEST OF 2023.
Edit 3: Just in case we need a bit of clarification:
I know this whole post may come across quite negatively. So let me make this clear: There is an issue with the Swedish culture and its normalisation of fennophobia, however, that doesn’t mean every Swede is maliciously fennophobic. It’s literally just so normalised here, that sometimes people don’t even notice when they’re partaking in it, and because of said normalisation, for many these fennophobic and colonialist insults have become a sort of knee jerk reaction to when there’s “actual beef” with Finland. (Which, obviously, is a fucking problem, because look who has to bear the brunt of that.) 
Moreover, many Swedes aren’t even familiar with their shared history with Finland, and the discrimination Finland was put through during the Swedish rule (not to mention the discrimination the Sweden Finns and Tornedalians have had to face and still face). That part of our shared history simply isn’t taught in schools here, so a regular person would have to know to go out and look for the information. Heck, the only reason I’m aware of this is because at the end of the day, despite having been born and raised in Sweden, I am ethnically Finnish, and grew up by the border with very strong ties to the Finnish culture because of it. But less about me, and more about this issue. Most Swedes (and Swedish journalists who have any sort of sense in them and who work for respectable publications) have expressed their dissatisfaction with this years results as well. There’s a reason Cha Cha Cha is charting so well on Swedish Spotify. There’s a reason for why the Swedish jury and the public gave Finland 12 points.
So, Tl;dr:
1. Swedish tabloids are trash.
2. We have an undeniable problem with how normalised fennophobia is here, and it’s absolutely bizarre that this is how it’s getting exposed.
3. Most regular Swedes aren’t happy with this either, and are in fact not Finland’s and the Finnish people’s greatest haters in the world.
4. Tobbe Ek should get fired. At the bare minimun, he and his coworkers should probably issue some sort of apology for spreading this, seeing how it is actually hurting a lot of people.
Anyway, please don’t hate on the Swedes because of this lol, think about what Jere from Vantaa would think about that. 💚
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andi-o-geyser · 1 year
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tragically, i find myself unable to cha cha cha in this economy
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letgomypartypiece · 1 year
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uuggGGGHHHHHHH im so normal about him
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nateslehky · 2 years
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Nate watching Lehky in the sauna
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arendellepeach · 9 months
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I didn't get it on video but he asked the president to be his new cha cha cha dancer
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oliviatexts · 7 days
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watching the grand final performance and eating oddlygood dreamy piña colada is actually the best way to celebrate the anniversary of my obsession
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I never was so mad at a Eurovision result. Germany deserved more than last place and Sweden deserved way less than first place
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tiredlvna · 1 year
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I’m still digesting my feelings about Eurovision 2023. I don’t remember being this angry any other year. Leaving aside the whole Finland vs. Sweden thing, because other people have already talked about it, what happened??
I’ll start with Spain, because I’m spanish. Look, we have a weird relationship with Eurovision. I remember joking for years about how we wanted to be the last ones. I feel neutral about flamenco, I don’t usually listen to it. But Blanca Paloma was AMAZING, guys, her vocals, the song, the stage. Was that really only worth 5 points? I don’t want to talk about what this means for us, “us” meaning Andalusia, not Spain, because they hate us but also use our culture to represent the whole country, but only when it’s cool; since Eurovision I had to read so many spanish people talking badly about flamenco. Ugh.
I read someone on twitter saying that Blanca was screaming meaningless nonsense and that is so disrespectful. We use "ea ea" to lull babies to sleep. It is a lullaby sung to a baby. “My child, when I die, may they bury me in the moon. And I hope to watch over you every night, every night except one”. The first thing I did when I listened to Cha Cha Cha was look for the translation and I also tried to learn the finnish lyrics. But I guess spanish is too difficult. 
But forget Spain. So many countries deserved better. 16 points for Austria??? Czechia?? Portugal?? GERMANY DIDN'T DESERVE TO FINISH LAST.
I get it, we were voting hard for Finland. I get it. But I can’t believe that Israel is in the top 3, for example. All the jury votes were like “all our love to Ukraine :(... anyway, here are our big points to Israel!!” Guys, what. “Europe, do you want to see me dance?” and so many people just forget about the conflict there, I guess. I’m done. All those points from the televote could have been for so many other countries. Including a few more for Finland. Käärijä was so close. 
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ruokasooda · 1 year
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https://www.aftonbladet.se/podcasts/ab/program/1291
Eurovision and Melodifestivalen specialized journalists Tobbe Ek and Markus Larsson weren’t too happy about Finns not granting any televotes for Loreeen. Few quotes from Aftonbladet’s (one of the largest daily newspapers in Sweden) Eurovision podcast:
Ek: ”The reason is that Finns are jealous. They are collectively jealous at us Swedes and that led them not voting for us.”
Ek: ”How is it even possible that Finns think there were ten better songs than Loreen? That’s shameful.”
Larsson: ”The Finns gave points even for Germany over Loreen. That’s sick. Says lot about Finnish understanding about music and about their taste.”
Ek: ”I’m fucking furious.”
Larsson: ”Dumbass people.”
Ek: ”Finland was only country where Sweden didn’t get any points from the people. Shame on you Finland, it serves you right you didn’t win!”
Larsson: ”I agree! F*ck them!”
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This is nothing new to us finns, swedes have always treated us like this. And it just culminates to eurovision which fucking sucks. I hope this gets spread out bit more so people can see under the polished picture sweden has put out.
I personally voted for germany and other 9 countries that in my own opinion had better songs than sweden, this type of articles just give so icky and bad feeling over everything. There are bad loosers in the world, but swedes seem to be really sore winners. Nothing seems to be enough they need it all. We already gave 12p by jury, but then again our jurys team leader was born in sweden so theres big conflict of interest in that. I think they know it was not pure win and are trying to pin the bad feeling into us.
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nanoa1foryou · 1 year
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Just so you all know, here is an article talking about the Helsinki Senate Square Käärijä Fortnite map. Yeah. That is a real thing.
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officerdougeiffel · 1 year
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I fucking hate eurovision I am never watching this shit ever again
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jonmartintrash · 1 year
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How are we supposed to live laugh 💃 cha cha cha 💃 in these conditions
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letgomypartypiece · 10 months
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love that u can see jere is LOSING it cus the camera is shaking so much
source: jeres story
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holyprincenerd · 1 year
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In today’s Käärijä related news
I’d like to inform you that Cha Cha Cha was played at the NHL playoffs! 💚🐛🫡
Here’s a video of the Finnish commentator noticing the song getting played:
https://www.tiktok.com/@masahockeyclips/video/7233695830543256858?_r=1&_t=8cVtvFxo9b1
And here he is pointing it out again:
https://www.tiktok.com/@masahockeyclips/video/7234767316783828251?_r=1&_t=8cVu6MFxPBq
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twpsyn-who · 1 year
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Ok, but we all agree that Finland actually won, right? I mean, have you heard the public?! The hosts literally couldn't speak because of them chanting 'Cha Cha Cha'. And during Finland's performance???? The way everyone singed along????? Beautiful. Truly beautiful.
Is, you know, the jury once again fucking everything up. Like every year. I mean, if it were only our votes, Finland would have been the winner.
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