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Oh, come on, it’ll be a laugh won’t it, Aaron?
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thetruthwilloutsworld · 5 months
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If anyone knows a thing or two about sex scenes, it’s Sam Heughan. Over the past decade, the 43-year-old Scottish star of Outlander, the cult-hit historical drama, has filmed hours of notoriously raunchy footage in his role as Jamie Fraser, the dashing 18th-­century Highland rebel, with his wife, Claire – a time-traveller from the 20th century, played by ­Caitríona Balfe.
Yet two years ago, Heughan, as one of the executive producers (with Balfe), introduced an intimacy co-ordinator to choreograph such scenes, which had been criticised by many as excessively violent.
“The industry’s completely changed since Outlander started,” Heughan says, sitting in a Soho bar on a visit to London from his home outside Glasgow. “Not just our show but also shows like Game of Thrones were very graphic, with no room for the imagination, in a way that’s quite jarring now. As young, keen actors, we were just expected to get naked and go at it. Caitríona and I formed a bond and trusted each other, but there were times when we were pushed too far.” He was especially troubled by a scene involving full-frontal nudity in ­season one, when Jamie was tortured and raped by his rival, Black Jack Randall (Tobias Menzies). “That really didn’t sit well.”
Everything changed following the MeToo scandal, leading ­Heughan to employ Vanessa Coffey to choreograph the sex scenes. “So now everyone knows what the boundaries are, like in a football or rugby match. It’s been so helpful and freeing, and it was because I didn’t want younger actors to go through what we’d gone through. Now, the scenes are sexually charged, but not gratuitous.”
Despite his heartthrob status, Heughan – who’s 6ft 2in, with the strapping physique his role necess­i­tates – is modest and thoughtful company. He also had Coffey enlisted to co-ordinate his latest pro­ject, Channel 4’s erotic thriller The Couple Next Door, filmed during the short break between Outlander’s seasons nine and 10, in which he plays Danny, a policeman living in a Leeds suburb in an open marriage with Becka (Jessica De Gouw).
“We didn’t want to make a salacious or seedy show about swingers,” Heughan says. “It’s about the psychology behind it – what is it to be in an open relationship where two characters love each other so much that they can invite people into that relationship? I think it’s possibly the greatest form of romance to allow your partner this, if it’s the itch they need to scratch. My character struggles with it.
The couple’s (initially) strait-laced neighbours are played by Alfred Enoch and Eleanor Tom­linson, who in 2019 finished five seasons as Demelza in Poldark. With Outlander about to start ­filming its final season, she and Heughan compared notes on moving on from a huge, long-running costume drama.
“It’s emotional. For me, the prospect’s hugely bittersweet. It feels like getting out of an institution. Outlander’s like a family, it literally defines who I am.” After all, Heughan has created an empire of Outlander spin-offs, including books, television travelogues and his spirits brand, The Sassenach – named after Jamie’s nickname for the English Claire – not to mention his charity, My Peak Challenge, which has raised nearly £5 million to fund a variety of causes, including ­hunger relief and blood-cancer research. “I’m ready for new challenges, but also nervous about what it’s like in the real world,” he says.
Still, he felt now was the right time to wrap. “Outlander could have finished after the ninth season, but, personally, I felt we hadn’t quite got there. So now we have the problem of pushing the writers to do something that’s hopefully satisfying for the audience, but also exciting.” So Heughan doesn’t yet know how Outlander ends? “No idea, and it’s really tough because Diana [Gabaldon, the author on whose novels the series is based] has written so many books.”
The show has a vast international fanbase; VisitScotland has cited a 67 per cent rise in visits to the show’s locations, such as Culloden and Inverness. “I do feel like I’m an unofficial ambassador for Scotland, and sometimes I don’t think the show is given enough credit for what it’s done for Scottish tourism,” Heughan says. “I think the numbers are even bigger than they say, because reams of Americans are just making their own itineraries. Doune Castle’s numbers are up 800 per cent, it’s been completely renovated as a result.”
The show has also transformed the local film industry. “For 10 years, we’ve been employing ­people at over 200 Scottish locations, we’ve started an intern scheme, we’ve built a studio with five sound stages where there was nothing before. So it’s going to leave a legacy.”
The son of an artist single mother (his father walked out when he was a baby), Heughan spent his early childhood in the Borders, his teens in Edinburgh, before studying at Glasgow’s Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama, where his mentor was third-year student James McAvoy.
Having worked in London and Los Angeles, Heughan fell back in love with Scotland when he was cast in Outlander. Initially against independence, filming the first ­season in the run-up to the 2016 ­referendum transformed him into a vocal advocate. “Scottish politics right now is a bit of a mess, which is a shame, but maybe they’ll find a new rallying cry. We’re a great wee country with amazing resources, most of which are controlled by the British. Similar small European countries have great identities.”
Initially, Heughan is hesitant to discuss the issue, aware taking either side will provoke a social-media backlash, but then he decides: “Why can’t actors have opi­n­ions? The problem is you have to come down on one side, there is no room for deb­ate. Everything has be­come so aggressive and then social-media algo­rithms mean you only get to see one side of the argument.”
He had his fingers burnt when last month he signed an open letter from Artists for Palestine UK, alongside the likes of Tilda Swinton and Steve Coogan, which accused the Government of “aiding and abetting” Israeli war crimes, but failed to condemn Hamas’s terrorism. The following day, Heughan rescinded, saying he hadn’t “fully understood” what he was signing.
“I was maybe naively calling for peace, which is what we all want, but, unfortunately, that situation is so complex, I can’t understand it all,” he says now. “As an actor, you have a platform, but if you put your thoughts out there, you upset ­people, but you’re also damned if you don’t say anything.”
Heughan’s taking time to navigate a potential post-Outlander career path. “I’m a workaholic, but I have to be discerning. Whatever I do next, I have to feel really passionate about.” Possible plans include directing and exploring a different side to Scotland than misty heather and bagpipes. “I think that underbelly you see in [Ian Rankin’s] Rebus and Irvine Welsh is very interesting, there are still pockets that are very hard and gritty.”
Back in 2005, he auditioned for James Bond in Casino Royale – the role that eventually went to Daniel Craig. Now, there’s a new vacancy. “I’ll throw my hat in the ring,” he says, grinning. “I’d be a brilliant Bond, I’m good at action and I’d bring a lot of ­emotional intelligence.”
There might even be space for a personal life. Heughan’s mystified by “facts” he reads about his private life online. “There’s so much ­nonsense that’s completely false – apparently, I have a daughter. News to me!” he says, flushing. The truth, he says, is that Outlander leaves no time for relationships.
“It’s insane hours and takes over everything. Caitríona’s carved out a beautiful family for herself that she protects very well, but I’ve seen how hard it is for her to do that. I want a cat, but I’m too scared even for that, how would I look after it? One day, maybe,” Heughan says, dreamily.
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sgiandubh · 5 months
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OK, I got it : Telegraph shitshow, anyone?
Oh, what the hell. I had no patience and couldn't picture myself fidgeting in a dull supermarket and ending up by forgetting half of the things on my list.
So, here it is, all of it.
Proof of buying:
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Yeah, "between Outlander's seasons nine and 10'. See how accurate the girl who wrote it is? How about a cobbled something to address the real issues at stake, of which there are three (more on this, in my next post)?
LOL? LOL.
Anyway, there goes. Passages in bold are marked by me:
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If anyone knows a thing or two about sex scenes, it’s Sam Heughan. Over the past decade, the 43-year-old Scottish star of Outlander, the cult-hit historical drama, has filmed hours of notoriously raunchy footage in his role as Jamie Fraser, the dashing 18th-­century Highland rebel, with his wife, Claire – a time-traveller from the 20th century, played by ­Caitríona Balfe.
Yet two years ago, Heughan, as one of the executive producers (with Balfe), introduced an intimacy co-ordinator to choreograph such scenes, which had been criticised by many as excessively violent.
“The industry’s completely changed since Outlander started,” Heughan says, sitting in a Soho bar on a visit to London from his home outside Glasgow. “Not just our show but also shows like Game of Thrones were very graphic, with no room for the imagination, in a way that’s quite jarring now. As young, keen actors, we were just expected to get naked and go at it. Caitríona and I formed a bond and trusted each other, but there were times when we were pushed too far.” He was especially troubled by a scene involving full-frontal nudity in ­season one, when Jamie was tortured and raped by his rival, Black Jack Randall (Tobias Menzies). “That really didn’t sit well.”
Everything changed following the MeToo scandal, leading ­Heughan to employ Vanessa Coffey to choreograph the sex scenes. “So now everyone knows what the boundaries are, like in a football or rugby match. It’s been so helpful and freeing, and it was because I didn’t want younger actors to go through what we’d gone through. Now, the scenes are sexually charged, but not gratuitous.”
Despite his heartthrob status, Heughan – who’s 6ft 2in, with the strapping physique his role necess­i­tates – is modest and thoughtful company. He also had Coffey enlisted to co-ordinate his latest pro­ject, Channel 4’s erotic thriller The Couple Next Door, filmed during the short break between Outlander’s seasons nine and 10, in which he plays Danny, a policeman living in a Leeds suburb in an open marriage with Becka (Jessica De Gouw).
“We didn’t want to make a salacious or seedy show about swingers,” Heughan says. “It’s about the psychology behind it – what is it to be in an open relationship where two characters love each other so much that they can invite people into that relationship? I think it’s possibly the greatest form of romance to allow your partner this, if it’s the itch they need to scratch. My character struggles with it.”
The couple’s (initially) strait-laced neighbours are played by Alfred Enoch and Eleanor Tom­linson, who in 2019 finished five seasons as Demelza in Poldark. With Outlander about to start ­filming its final season, she and Heughan compared notes on moving on from a huge, long-running costume drama.
“It’s emotional. For me, the prospect’s hugely bittersweet. It feels like getting out of an institution. Outlander’s like a family, it literally defines who I am.” After all, Heughan has created an empire of Outlander spin-offs, including books, television travelogues and his spirits brand, The Sassenach – named after Jamie’s nickname for the English Claire – not to mention his charity, My Peak Challenge, which has raised nearly £5 million to fund a variety of causes, including ­hunger relief and blood-cancer research. “I’m ready for new challenges, but also nervous about what it’s like in the real world,” he says.
Still, he felt now was the right time to wrap. “Outlander could have finished after the ninth season, but, personally, I felt we hadn’t quite got there. So now we have the problem of pushing the writers to do something that’s hopefully satisfying for the audience, but also exciting.” So Heughan doesn’t yet know how Outlander ends? “No idea, and it’s really tough because Diana [Gabaldon, the author on whose novels the series is based] has written so many books.”
The show has a vast international fanbase; VisitScotland has cited a 67 per cent rise in visits to the show’s locations, such as Culloden and Inverness. “I do feel like I’m an unofficial ambassador for Scotland, and sometimes I don’t think the show is given enough credit for what it’s done for Scottish tourism,” Heughan says. “I think the numbers are even bigger than they say, because reams of Americans are just making their own itineraries. Doune Castle’s numbers are up 800 per cent, it’s been completely renovated as a result.”
The show has also transformed the local film industry. “For 10 years, we’ve been employing ­people at over 200 Scottish locations, we’ve started an intern scheme, we’ve built a studio with five sound stages where there was nothing before. So it’s going to leave a legacy.”
The son of an artist single mother (his father walked out when he was a baby), Heughan spent his early childhood in the Borders, his teens in Edinburgh, before studying at Glasgow’s Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama, where his mentor was third-year student James McAvoy.
Having worked in London and Los Angeles, Heughan fell back in love with Scotland when he was cast in Outlander. Initially against independence, filming the first ­season in the run-up to the 2016 ­referendum transformed him into a vocal advocate. “Scottish politics right now is a bit of a mess, which is a shame, but maybe they’ll find a new rallying cry. We’re a great wee country with amazing resources, most of which are controlled by the British. Similar small European countries have great identities.”
Initially, Heughan is hesitant to discuss the issue, aware taking either side will provoke a social-media backlash, but then he decides: “Why can’t actors have opi­n­ions? The problem is you have to come down on one side, there is no room for deb­ate. Everything has be­come so aggressive and then social-media algo­rithms mean you only get to see one side of the argument.”
He had his fingers burnt when last month he signed an open letter from Artists for Palestine UK, alongside the likes of Tilda Swinton and Steve Coogan, which accused the Government of “aiding and abetting” Israeli war crimes, but failed to condemn Hamas’s terrorism. The following day, Heughan rescinded, saying he hadn’t “fully understood” what he was signing.
“I was maybe naively calling for peace, which is what we all want, but, unfortunately, that situation is so complex, I can’t understand it all,” he says now. “As an actor, you have a platform, but if you put your thoughts out there, you upset ­people, but you’re also damned if you don’t say anything.”
Heughan’s taking time to navigate a potential post-Outlander career path. “I’m a workaholic, but I have to be discerning. Whatever I do next, I have to feel really passionate about.” Possible plans include directing and exploring a different side to Scotland than misty heather and bagpipes. “I think that underbelly you see in [Ian Rankin’s] Rebus and Irvine Welsh is very interesting, there are still pockets that are very hard and gritty.”
Back in 2005, he auditioned for James Bond in Casino Royale – the role that eventually went to Daniel Craig. Now, there’s a new vacancy. “I’ll throw my hat in the ring,” he says, grinning. “I’d be a brilliant Bond, I’m good at action and I’d bring a lot of ­emotional intelligence.”
There might even be space for a personal life. Heughan’s mystified by “facts” he reads about his private life online. “There’s so much ­nonsense that’s completely false – apparently, I have a daughter. News to me!” he says, flushing. The truth, he says, is that Outlander leaves no time for relationships.
“It’s insane hours and takes over everything. Caitríona’s carved out a beautiful family for herself that she protects very well, but I’ve seen how hard it is for her to do that. I want a cat, but I’m too scared even for that, how would I look after it? One day, maybe,” Heughan says, dreamily.
The Couple Next Door begins on Channel 4 on Monday 27 November at 9pm; stream all episodes from this date
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dannymillerfansite · 3 months
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Do you think Aaron will spiral more out control ? What storyline would you like for Aaron ? Do you think Mack and Aaron will get together ?
I think there's likely more spiralling to come but it might take a different form, the issue with Cain will probably bubble up and come to a head. It wouldn't surprise me if Aaron ends up being held hostage again very soon, it's Cain's modus operandi for his enemies.
The story I'd like them to start with is I wish they would properly address Aaron's mental health, finally allow him to progess and become stronger and in a better place then get him properly re-established, I don't like Vinny having contol over what should be Aaron's scrap yard business and having him there does tend to isolate him.
I'm not sure they are going to put Aaron/Mackenzie together, I'd rather Robert return, but if not. I don't think they need to rush Aaron into a relationship,
I think Mackenzie and Aaron should be friends, he's a better Adam replacement more than anything and I wouldn't want the budding friendship ruined but with Vanessa returning who knows if ED plan on reuniting Vanity, there's issues brewing between Mack/Charity.
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mermaidsirennikita · 5 months
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i'm rewatching the crown s5 and god the charles propaganda is working over time. i didn't even realize how heavy handed it was at the time because i was too much in shock over how bad the season was but they really're pushing how modern and progressive he is! look at all the good work he has done! poor charles diana and the press are so mean to him :( the tampon gate episode literally ends with him breakdancing with some kids (???) with text saying how many people he has helped with his charity work. pray tell what brand of crack cocaine was peter morgan smoking?
I honestly have no idea, dude. Because if you were to ask me beforehand, I would've said:
Season 1--Great TV, if a little more conventional than other seasons; dominated by EXTREMELY good and character-setting performances across the board (I feel like Peter Townsend was the only semi-major player who didn't stand out, but in s2 it became very clear that Townsend being boring was The Point). Jared Harris wasn't even a true lead and he made me cry multiple times. Claire and Matt (and I say this as someone who generally doesn't care for Matt Smith) are superb. Lithgow? Knocked it out with a VERY well-known personality who's been played by other major actors. Vanessa Kirby? A definitive Margaret. Elizabeth gives Philip the ol' kneel and deliver. Amazing.
Season 2--Probably the best season of the show (even if the Kennedy episode was.... bad.... I feel like every one of the first four seasons has an episode that isn't great and is kind of totally out of step with the rest, and now I realize it was a harbinger of doom). Makes you root for a pair of objectively horrible people in an objectively miserable (if oddly loving...?) marriage. Matthew Goode shows up and does 60s excellence with Vanessa Kirby. No major standout PM performances on a Lithgow, but still, really good ones. (And I've come to realize ever since s5 and s6 dropped the ball--getting really good actors to play the PMs and seeing random glimpses of their lives was such a mainstay of the first four seasons, omg. HOW IS TONY BLAIR SO BORING???? WE KNOW THIS JACKASS.) Philip almost does a murder suicide with tiny Charles in that plane. It's GREAT.
Season 3--I wasn't as big a fan at first, but it's aged into a really solid season of TV. I think it took Olivia, who I think is one of the greatest actresses working right now so this isn't shade, a while to feel comfortable in the role. Tobias Menzies was immediately fab casting, though; I don't think I've ever seen a less than good performance from him, tbh. Helena Bonham-Carter isn't as good as Vanessa, but still entertaining and fun; and while Tony is not nearly as good in this season, he's barely there. BUT even if it's not the strongest season, you get Josh O'Connor and he is SO. AMAZINGLY. GOOD. He turns an awkward community theater performance by Charles into this intense monologue (was Charles that good an actor? No but who cares). He talks wistfully about how he'll only get a life after his mom like, dies in a helicopter crash or something. "mUMMY I HAVE A VOICE"/"NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR IT" hands down best Olivia line reading of the season if not her entire tenure on the show.
Season 4--Fabulous TV, dials up the soap opera drama, Emma Corrin is a perfect young Diana and Josh gets into his full bag as Charles. Olivia sets this tone between total unfeeling frost and a weird goofy humor that leads to the frankly hysterical "DO I have a favorite kid???" episode, where we don't know that it's Andrew but we kNOW. It's Andrew. The sense of doom builds up. Gillian Anderson devours as Margaret Thatcher. The ending with the cameras going off as we pull in on Emma Corrin's teary reflective eyes after Diana is lowkey??? Threatened???? By Philip???? Much more affecting than Diana's literal death in s6.
Yeah, man. I don't know. Peter has always very clearly been a royalist to me, but he seemed for a long time like a royalist more focused on Elizabeth and his fascination with and vast empathy for her. Charles... always got a sympathetic enough edit, sure, but in the sense that you got WHY he's such an emotionally deficient doorknob. Season 4 portrays him as outright emotionally abusive and? Tbh? Surprisingly predatory. That's something I think gets glossed over a lot. But Peter doesn't make Charles devoid of physical attraction to Diana, which I think a lot of takes on this story do. And he wasn't devoid of attraction to her. There were brief bright spots in their early marriage where Diana as much as said she couldn't keep him off her (and this was Charles so that was probs like thrice a week I dunno). There's been a lot of speculation that he and Diana DID sleep together before their wedding day; it wasn't this sterile thing it's often depicted as, at least not always.
And I think that the perceived sterility of the relationship has led some to overlook the fact that Diana got engaged to him before she was 20. She met him when she was underage and he was dating her sister. The Crown SHOWED that. Josh O'Connor PLAYED IT like Charles was checking out a 16 year old girl while he was all of 28 and about to go out with her sister within minutes. It's so deliberate? I don't know why anyone would ever be able to... not get it. So we go from that to "well yeah he had this awkward moment with his mistress, but everyone actually saw it as two people being in love" which just isn't historically accurate lmao. Charles and Camilla still get dogged out by that to this day. And look, I'm not judging what people are into--I more so judge the nature of the relationship in terms of how it pertained to, I don't know, his wife and kids, and this idea that people were NOT weirded out by it at the time lmao. Even people who aren't actively against Charles... the vast majority don't see him as this GREAT CHARISMATIC CHANGEMAKER lmao. Unless you're writing a biography of him in which he's feeding you sources.
I mean, I'll give credit where credit is due--he does seem genuinely into environmentalism, even if that's subsequently contradicted by his actions (though perhaps not as badly as is the case with Wills). He apparently dislikes Trump. Cool! But lol, this idea that Charles was really changing the world by like... doing charity work... that all royals do...................... Topped off by breakdancing......
It's SO cringe. I don't know if Peter got threats lmao. I don't know if he saw how much he made the audience hate the royals in s4 and went "oh no, that wasn't my intent" (and I will say--I do think that actors can affect things here; I don't get the sense from Josh's interviews that he is, ah, into Charles as a person, and maybe he went harder because of that) and tried to course correct...?
But he clearly made a huge change and it's such a bummer because the 90s are arguably some of the most interesting years for the Windsors and he just kind of flushed them down the drain. And he also got a perfect older Diana casting and wasted her.
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THE LONDON LIBRARY ANNOUNCES HELENA BONHAM CARTER CBE AS PRESIDENT The London Library is delighted to announce Helena Bonham Carter CBE as its first female President. Proposed by the Library’s Trustees, the appointment was formally confirmed by members at the Annual General Meeting on 15 November 2022, also marking the end of incumbent President, Sir Tim Rice’s five-year term.  The new President has been a Library member since 1986 and has been chosen for her creativity and connections with literature and stories, her high profile and potential to advocate among new audiences.   Bonham Carter has a passion for books and deeply appreciates the importance of writers to the acting profession. Much of her own career links with London Library members who have drawn on the Library’s rich cultural heritage, extensive resources and unparalleled atmosphere. She rose to prominence by playing Lucy Honeychurch in the film adaptation of the novel A Room with a View (1985), written by former Library Vice President E.M. Forster. Later, she played Miss Havisham in Great Expectations (2012), Charles Dickens was a founding member of the Library, and more recently Eudoria Holmes in the Enola Holmes films based on characters created by Library member Arthur Conan Doyle.  Open to all, the Library has had innumerable female artists, writers and thinkers in membership throughout its 181-year history. Early members included pioneering women such as social theorist, Harriet Martineau, suffragette, Christabel Pankhurst and the first woman to qualifiy in Britain and a physician and surgeon, Elizabeth Garrett Anderson. Great writers in membership have included Virginia Woolf, Angela Carter, Daphne du Maurier, Muriel Spark and Beryl Bainbridge, and other creatives such as actress, Diana Rigg, and artist, Vanessa Bell.   The Library Presidency is an honorary position with fundraising and advocacy at its core; the Library is a charity that receives no regular public funding. Bonham Carter’s first major duty will be to host The Library’s Christmas Party but she is particularly interested in the Library’s highly regarded Emerging Writers Programme, its growing schools programme, and the Library’s various types of supported membership for those unable to meet the full annual fee.   The Library is a world-class centre of creativity and inspiration. Around 700 books are published each year by Library members, and over 460 film scripts, TV screenplays or theatre scripts are also produced by Library members annually, estimating an annual value of £21.3m generated for the UK economy (Nordicity and Chartered Accountants Saffrey Champness Impact Report, 2020).   Helena Bonham Carter CBE, said: “I am delighted to become The London Library’s first female President and to champion an institution that is open to all. The Library is truly a place like no other, inspiring and supporting writers for over 180 years, many of whom have in some way informed my own career and those of actors everywhere. The Library’s unique resources, history and membership help to connect the literary greats of the past with those of the future, and I am proud to support this incredible and vital establishment.”   Philip Marshall, Director of The London Library said: ‘We are all thrilled to welcome Helena Bonham Carter as our new President. With a passion for books and stories, and a long-standing love of the Library, Helena is ideally placed to promote this tremendous resource for the creative and curious.’  Photo credit: Sane Seven
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there’s only 3 more episodes of January left for Emmerdale and there is no signs of who this return might be! I know it won’t be Robert but who can it be really? If it’s Vanessa - that will be so disappointing since we have known since she left that she would be back. And she’s such a boring character. Mack and charity have only just got back together - why would she come back to help charity. Just all seems so weird
I don't think it's vanessa really. Michelle seems to be in no rush to come back and her and kate's daughter is one already so her maternity leave is definitely over.
Maybe it's someone related to the Kings somehow? Someone who wants to buy their businesses and 'help' them like that?
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So I watched the Charity/Mack wedding episode since I’m working from home today and happen to have not had a meeting during it...
I just can’t believe they actually had them get married and they’re dragging all of this out even longer. 
Also they need to name all of these babies better...Reuben?! I mean we’ve got a Rueben and an Esther and a Dotty and let’s not forget Moses. I mean I also hated the name Seb for a long time and got used to that but still...
But back to Charity and Mack and this terrible story...I just...
It’s the Charity/Jai/Rachel story mixed with the Robron/Rebecca story but worse than both. 
At least you were rooting for Robron and you could kind of hate Jai and see the writing on the wall because they fundamentally disagreed on the kids issue. With Charity and Mack, I’ve never known how to feel because it all just feels like a lot of last minute decisions to cover Michelle’s maternity leave. 
So on the hand you have Vanity who are the popular ship and all of their fans loathe Charity with Mack. And there’s the question of whether or not they will eventually try and put Vanity back together once Michelle stops having kids but is it too late for that at this point? Or will they still try?
And so the part of me that kind of likes some aspects of Charity and Mack in that he does seem to love her for her and not need her to change (kids issue aside, and even that I think he does kind of ultimately want her more than kids of his own even though that’s what he’s got now) is doubly frustrated because they feel doomed due to the story and due to a possibility of future Vanity. 
One of the things that always frustrated me about Vanity was that Vanessa never really seemed to get Charity in a lot of ways, was always trying to change her or getting upset at her for any scheming and such. And some of those changes were good but also it was just the same conflict over and over and that got exhausting and she never seemed to really trust her with the big stuff like cancer and Johnny. 
But, while majorly underdeveloped due to everything feeling like a last minute change, Mack does seem like a decent choice for her if you ignore you know the whole lying to her for months and cheating on her and having a baby with someone else part. And his bizarre age thing, but that’s a whole other story. So I could like that. 
But was this all set up to fail just to bide time for Michelle to return? Possibly. Probably. And then there’s the fact that they’ve done a whole lot of damage to both characters to facilitate this idiotic pregnancy story no one asked for. The kids conflict is annoying and already done with Charity multiple times. Charity looks like an absolute idiot not noticing anything is going on despite Chloe living with them and everyone acting shady. The fact that multiple family members know about the Chloe situation and no one has told her is even worse. And any character growth she has had now that she thinks she’s in a stable relationship is all just going to get trashed again and for what? 
And then of course it all makes Mack look like an asshole. At least Robert came clean and he and Aaron dealt with everything before they had their legal wedding. All this carrying on with Mack lying constantly just makes him look worse and worse and I don’t really know where they take his character after this. When he first showed up he was fun and snarky and full of possibilities and now...what? He just gets stuck in a revenge story with Charity? Plays Daddy to Reuben? Yells “My boy, my son” a lot with no reprieve? It’s just kind of a waste. 
That’s not even addressing Chloe who got sucked into this story after getting passed around to all the village guys for the sake of plot who has had so many convoluted revelations about her backstory that she’s just never been properly developed as a character but guess what! You’re a mom! And that’s all that matters on this show. Congrats, you’ve been fulfilled. 
(this isn’t even getting into the absolute absurdity that was the entire A Team wedding nonsense that seemed to have come out of nowhere just so they could do something dramatic and silly and promote it) 
Sigh...And this is why I usually only watch one episode every two weeks. Haha.
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What are you thoughts on Jane hudson pretending vanity never existed
My thoughts are that her actually having the nerve to say that Charity has "made it very clear her feelings are for Mack" as if it's stupid to think otherwise, like her running down the street vowing to never give up on Vanessa was all just in our heads... is just laughable. The gaslighting is truly on an another level.
Equally as laughable is her actually acknowledging they have their kids to think about (although saying people could "argue" that Johnny and Moses are "like" brothers when they are legally brothers... lol) when they've not made any attempt to show that on screen in the last five months.
Part of me wanted them to come out and make it clear Vanity were over so I could fully let go of it, and yet actually seeing her being so dismissive like they didn't string their lgbt fanbase along for months only to screw us over for a man has just made me angry all over again. Truly can't wait for the day I hear news of a new production team! :')
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twilightfansofcolor · 2 years
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Princess (Jacob Black x biracial princess!reader)
After your parents Prince Daniel and Duchess Vanessa announce to step back as senior members of the Royal Family, you move to your mother’s hometown of Forks, Washington only to discover that the small Pacific Northwest town that you now call home, harbors its own dark secrets
Early January 2005
“Good evening, and thank you for being here for Sentebale, a charity me and Prince Seeiso founded in 1985 to honor my mother’s legacy in supporting those affected by HIV and AIDS. Before I begin, I must say that I can only imagine what you may have heard or perhaps read over the last few weeks… So I want you to hear the truth from me, as much as I can share— not as a Prince or a Duke, but as Daniel, the same person that many of you have watched grow up over the last 42 years— but with a clearer perspective. The UK is my home and a place that I love. That will never change. I have grown up feeling support from so many of you, and I watched as you welcomed Vanessa with open arms as you saw me find the love and happiness that I had hoped for all my life. 
“Fianlly, the second son of Vivian got hitched, hurray! I also know you’ve come to know me well enough over all these years to trust that the woman I chose as my wife also upholds the same values as I do. And she does, and she’s still the same woman I fell in love with. We both do everything we can to fly the flag and carry out our roles for this country with pride. Once Vanessa and I were married, we were excited, we were hopeful, and we were here to serve.
“For those reasons, it gives me great sadness that it has come to this. The decision that I have made for my wife and I to step back is not one I made lightly. It was so many talks after so many years of challenges, fifteen years to be exact. And I know I haven’t always gotten it right, but as far as this goes, there really was no other option. What I want to make clear is we’re not walking away, and we certainly aren’t walking away from you. 
“Our hope was to continue serving the Queen, the Commonwealth, and my military associations but without public funding. Unfortunately, that wasn’t possible. I’ve accepted this, knowing that it doesn’t change who I am or how committed I am. But I hope that it helps you understand what it had come to, that I would step my family back from all I have ever known, to take a step forward into what I hope can be a more peaceful life. I was born into this life, and it is a great honor to serve my country and the Queen. 
“When I lost my mum all those years ago, you took me under your wing. You’ve looked out for me for so long, but the media is a powerful force, and my hope is one day our collective support for each other can be more powerful because this is so much bigger than just us. It has been our privilege to serve you, and we will continue to lead a life of service. It has also been a privilege to meet so many of you, and to feel your excitement for our daughter Y/N when she saw snow for the first time as a baby and thought it was bloody brilliant! I will always have the utmost respect for my grandmother, my commander-in-chief, and I am incredibly grateful to her and the rest of my family for the support they have shown Vanessa and I over the last few months. 
“I will continue to be the same man who holds his country dear and dedicates his life to supporting the causes, charities, and military communities that are so important to me. Together, you have given me an education about living. And this role has taught me more about what is right and just than I could have ever imagined. We are taking a leap of faith— thank you for giving me the courage to take this next step…”
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bobbie-robron · 4 months
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Robron Fanfiction Recommendations (Dec-2023)
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The below were recommended on Twitter in Dec-2023.
Discovered (2016) 13.1K words, robron_til_the_end
It’s April 2015 and Robert and Aaron are on their own enjoying themselves at Home Farm until Chrissie comes back early only to find them in bed together revealing their affair. This being Robert, he does the usual to convince Chrissie to stay with him and that Aaron was a mistake. In the end, Chrissie gives him an ultimatum… leave the village with her or they are through. What will Robert’s decision be and will he regret it in the end?
Oh, cause I need you to see that you are the reason (2018) 3.0K words, storiesthatmakeus
It’s time for Reunion 2.0! The club setting remains as does the pointless one being effectively and promptly dumped by Aaron but that’s where things change. A taxi drive back to the village and Aaron doing his best to get his soulmate/husband back while the rain falls on them.
Robron: Evening classes (2016) 12.7K words, jdinglemonkey
Aaron decides to take an evening dance course and the lecturer is Robert which he becomes smitten with quickly. But Robert has a dark past with a broken heart which makes it difficult for the two to make progress, on the personal side that is. When Aaron is told what Robert’s past holds and why he left the village, will it too much to move forward together?
This is How it Could Have Gone (2015) 3.6K words, dirtylittlegreasemonkey
We all know how Robert and Aaron started out those early weeks in 2014. Now, here, we have three scenarios where things happened differently (no need to go into detail, is there?): Mates? Join me if you want? The callout to the layby. Enjoy!
It’s a beautiful sound, It’s a beautiful noise series (2018) 10.6K words, andyyouknowitis
A set of three stories focusing on Robert and Aaron after their reunion including focus on finding balance in their lives, struggling with money, Robert getting gifts from the heart from Aaron, Aaron’s worry about failing both Liv and Sebastian, and a reflective look over the course of a year ending with Sebastian’s absence in their lives. Cannon compliant (mostly) with more texture added to flesh out moments.
The Green Eyed Monster (2018) 2.9K words, coffeeandghostwriting
Reunion 2.0. The girl squad (Robert’s sister, Vanessa and Tracy) take Robert to Bar West to help him ‘move on.’ That might not be so easy especially when Aaron shows up not liking his husband/ex (he can’t decide) being chatted up (while he himself is there with the pointless one and his mates). A bit different ending. Also includes a side focus on Vanessa and Charity.
Music is a window to the soul series (2016) 7.7K words, RobronForever
Two stories in this series taking place before the trial starts with both Aaron and Robert learning more about the other through songs. First, while helping Robert’s sister, Aaron hears a song that reminds him of Robert but wants to keep that tidbit from reaching Robert’s ears. In the second story, Aaron wants to know what is on Robert’s ‘Aaron’ playlist even if it means getting him tipsy to get it…
Broken (2016) 3.4K words, imaginentertain
Robert wants to get the perfect Christmas present for Aaron after the rough year they had but each (extravagant) idea he comes up with, it gets shot down by those he asks close to Aaron. So, what do to? The ideal gift was there all along, it just needed to be pointed out by a certain someone because it’s not gift itself that matters but what the person does for another...
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ripentogether · 11 months
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Jeong: Lacey's got it easy
Have you heard? That Lacey finally toned her yellow blonde hair? And that this new look debuted on a crossover episode over Growing Up Crumplebottom?!
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The number one question from her fans is whether Lacey's next move is to go teal, of couse. Vanessa wouldn't say no to that, but she's also basking in the fact that she can regularly go unrecognized.
But not always, which means that she and Paulo are forced to be pretty careful now. He and Kayla pay the big security bucks to maintain a paparazzi-free estate. So, you know, that's the spot.
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As soon as Kayla was informed of their "situation" she went ahead and pushed out a story about Paulo taking a charity-like interest in helping aspiring actors get in shape. Good stuff. Not an insult at all.
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But, it allows them to continue one of their favorite activities (it's how they met!) of working out together. There's no reason for she and Kayla to be friends or anything, so she's taking it all in stride.
And then, the blowup happened.
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kayla1993-world · 2 years
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Prince William Hands Out Awards to Vanessa Redgrave and Kate Middleton's Longtime Bodyguard
Prince William is back on investiture duty. Just one day after Princess Anne hosted the first investiture ceremony since Queen Elizabeth's death on Sept. 8 at Buckingham Palace, William hosted the prize giving for the first time since becoming the Prince of Wales on Thursday.
During investiture ceremonies, a centuries-old tradition, members of the royal family present medals to those who have been awarded honours.
Thursday's event saw Vanessa Redgrave become a Dame Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, the female equivalent of a knight.
"You don't compare going for an investiture at Buckingham Palace with any other achievement, whatever it is. It is unique," Redgrave told the PA news agency of the award.
She was also excited to hear that Prince William would be the one to present her with the honour. "I was thrilled when I heard that the Prince of Wales was doing the investitures today," she said.
Prince William, 40, also handed out an award to his wife Kate Middleton's special protection officer, Emma Probert. Probert, who has served the new Princess of Wales since 2010 and is often seen by her side during royal engagements, was made a Member of the Royal Victorian Order.
She approached Prince William with a big smile as she curtsied, and the two seemed to have a casual exchange. Over the coming months, members of the royal family will continue to present awards to those recognized in the late Queen's Birthday and New Year's Honors Lists.
The investiture ceremony was the first of the day for Prince William. He and Kate also stepped out on Thursday to celebrate the 10th anniversary of their sporting initiative, Coach Core, at London's Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park.
The royal couple tried out some of the sporting sessions offered by the charity, with Prince William taking some punches to the heavy bag while wearing boxing gloves.
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Oh so you loved when everyone attacked me, what a nice friend you are.......🖕🏻
Now you choose amiga.
Alias or Ghost whisperer? Maya Bishop or Charlotte King? Charity and Vanessa or Maya and Carina? Hiking or writing?
dude bro... you nicknamed me "shit disturber" like month one of our friendship. Are you actually surprised that I was over here laughing my ass off at the unanimous decision to completely disregard your one request when you reblogged that post? 10/10 Marina fandom!
1. Alias or Ghost Whisperer?
Easy. Ghost Whisperer was a beautiful love story and I thoroughly enjoyed watching the show as it aired, but even when Melinda was being a total bad ass, someone (Jim) would come to her rescue. Sydney Bristow, on the other hand, was established as a woman who could stand on her own two feet in episode one of Alias. Sure, she fell in love eventually, too, but her autonomy was usually front and centre and I'd never seen a character written like that on TV before her. I choose Alias.
2. Maya Bishop or Charlotte King?
Easy again. Charlotte was iconic, but I never got truly obsessed with that show or her character the way I have with Maya. Station 19 stuck a hand through the screen and grabbed me by the throat to say, "Look! This is what you look like! This is what you could be! These are the dark paths you could tumble down if you don't do the work!" I've never felt more represented on screen. I choose Maya.
3. Charity and Vanessa or Maya and Carina?
A lot of the fun of Charity and Vanessa was the fandom, tbh. It's a weird privilege to have access to characters every day of the week and really see their story unfold, but the fandom - particularly the fanfiction - that was born of that time was just... like nothing I've ever experienced before. It pushed me so much to be greater and do more with my own work, for which I will never be able to truly express my gratitude.
With Maya and Carina, though, there's a different sense of community around the show. I think I'm more deeply invested in the storylines because I see so much of myself in Maya. My experience in the fandom is extremely curated, but I've had a lot of fun with the friends I've made and I'm so excited to see old friends from the Calzona fandom slowly joining the circles. It's a bonus, I think, to be able to get so much behind-the-scenes content from the team on Station 19. I choose Maya and Carina. (Biased because I've written my favourite fic ever for this fandom, but it's because of the time I spent with Charity and Vanessa.)
4. Hiking or writing?
This is the utmost cruel one of this bunch. Both of these things impact my health in different ways. Both of these things are integral to my understanding of who I am and how I fit in the world. I've done without hiking for much of this year, though, and even if my body feels strange and foreign... I'm mostly okay. Writing, however, I lived without for many years while my health was terrible and... I wasn't okay then. For a multitude of reasons, but I think writing was a big factor. If I lost every sense and all my freedom, I'd still want to tell stories.
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You know what would have been more interesting, still super soapy, and be something new.
If Mack had slept with a mysterious male when he had his fight with Charity.
A man couldn’t get pregnant in that same tired old storyline that we have seen several times before.
And even more soapy and still keeping it connected and tied to Charity. Mack could have slept with Aaron’s new bloke Marco.
I know that’s odd to happen, but this is a soap. I mean Charles new daughter is one of the girls who attacked Nicola, this shit happens all the time.
But it was months ago, Marco could have been in the area for business or visiting people or some other reason. And they met up at a bar, some flirty business went on, one thing led to another and they ended up in bed together.
Then later Marco comes with Aaron over the whole Liv thing. It comes out, Charity and Mack still break up, which I’m sure this is where this is headed so Charity can get back together with Vanessa or something similar. Mack and Aaron could have some fun banter about having similar taste in men. Well I say banter, mostly Aaron being annoyed and Mack being cheeky. Also it leaves Aaron to leave again and he could be like I’m off to check out the Isle of Man for no reason. Which we all know he means Robert.
The show breaks up Charity and Mack, Mack is a canon bisexual, there is soapy fun, a different story for once, Aaron and Mack play off each other, Aaron is single again, so that they can hint at Robron for the fans.
At least it’s different.
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I don’t understand why Jane chose Charity and Mackenzie over Charity and Vanessa hardly anyone likes Charity and Mackenzie as a couple about form a few women I have seen on the Emmerdale Facebook pages and Charity and Vanessa have a fan base which is a lot more then Charity and Mackenzie have it just proves that Jane does not listen to the fans of Emmerdale
I don’t have an answer to this anon.
We don’t know what happened and that makes it impossible to even try and guess why Vanity was dropped like that.
It’s all very odd to be honest, I don’t like to speculate but this all…odd. Vanity’s episodes in March make very little sense if the plan was always to keep them apart and continue with Mack and Charity.
I don’t think we’ll ever truly know why this happened unfortunately.
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