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fumifooms · 4 months

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Hi hi! I'm sure you have loads of asks to get through. But if you may, we talk a lot about Chilchuck and Marcille (as we should 'cause they're great!), but since you've mentioned that Laios is your fave char, I would love to hear if you have any takes on Laios and Izutsumi's dynamic. I feel sometimes like she doesn't really like him...? It's funny but I also feel bad for him sometimes. ^^;;

You can’t ask me this and expect me to not drop everything else I’m doing. Little did you know they are my brotp. They are so special. Izutsumi gets along more with literally everyone in the party, but their relationship was so narratively important. They’re a really underrated and overlooked dynamic! I’ve had them as a topic at the back of my mind for a while, seeing someone else interested was all the push I needed gdbdg. This isn’t super long though, their issues with each other and lil arc is surprisingly brief and easy to summarize.

Laios & Izutsumi : what’s their deal with each other

For me one foundational train of thought for Izutsumi & Laios is, well. I read this awesome smart post deconstructing how Izutsumi’s beef with Laios is because she only just broke free and wants freedom without having someone ordering her around, and that’s sort of her whole character arc, isn’t it?

Isn’t Izutsumi’s picky eating a reflection of just that? In a life where she was a slave, she could at least control what she chose to eat and not eat. But then you might wonder, why did the narrative want her to grow out of that? Simply put, Izutsumi has a contrarian streak, one that is often extremely counterproductive. We saw that especially near the beginning, with how hard it was to make her work with them as a team. The issue is that now that she is free, she needs to not block out others by habit, to not lash out and refuse the healthy things in life, the people who want good for her. And that’s something that’s addressed in the succubus chapter as well as the fight against the ice golem, that she shouldn’t insist that she can do everything alone and fight against any team effort.

I love how onesided the Laios izutsumi dynamic is. He stays away from her generally, like doesn’t interact much, but he wants the cat pats… Which Izu made clear she did NOT want. And Chil is the only one in the party to not really see her as a cat for most of the story really, as shown in the relationship chart. He’s well meaning and wants the best for her, but he crowds her and doesn’t understand her at all. But he reallyyy wants to get along with her.

On the other hand, Izutsumi’s very existence and identity gave Laios an immense amount of hope that Falin could be brought back and still be herself and live well, even if she still had part of a dragon’s soul in her. I think that’s a lovely way to contrast the way that Izutsumi hates herself as a beastkin and her body, while Laios is like "Thank you, your existence as you are is the answer to all my worries" AND he super likes monster bodies and beastkins so it’s like. I think part of her hostility to him, besides feeling like he doesn’t understand her perspective and is maybe dismissive of what his party members want (which would remind her of Maizuru to some degree probably), is that he says all these good things about her being a beastkin, and it’s so jarring with her own version of herself that it raises her hackles and she reacts negatively, especially with how flippant and eager he is about it. But yes like, this is their first meeting!! Beyond his interest in her as a beastkin because of his monster hobby, Laios is just so very grateful for her and chooses to put his trust in her.

That’s interesting too, how one of the first things she asks about upon meeting them is why the hell they would want to rescue Falin even if she were to stay as a chimera-beastkin and still have the dragon soul in her. It’s her asking "Who would want to stick with a beastkin?" thinking that there’s something fundamentally wrong with having two souls and it making you unlovable. And their differing views on monsters do make them clash

But ultimately he chills out about her, which ironically enough shows in the way that they don’t interact much- He gives her space, and accepts that the beastkin may not like him. BUT at the end of the day they have an incredible bond of trust- Laios asks Izutsumi to kill him if something goes wrong with the Winged Lion. Not only is that sort of an intimate request and act, but that means that he leaves it up to Izutsumi’s judgement as well to know if it went wrong and when to act. He doesn’t only trust her skills but also her decision making, despite how tough they’ve been on each other in the past. He’s giving her the ultimate role, the go ahead to make or break their plan and be the difference between saving or destroying the world. And the last tidbit of info we get on their relationship in canon is when she hides behind him because she’s shy- Certified having befriended the cat moment. She trusts him and sees him as a safe person! And by saying that she’s shy, he’s showing that he did end up understanding her and how she is.

No matter the rocky parts of their relationship, they still have a strong foundation to it and were great allies and road companions, one of the few persons that had each other’s back when it mattered the most, both for the world and for their personal arcs. And post-canon, well…

He’s accepted that she needs space and whatnot, and meanwhile she’s accepted his interest in monsters and taken it in stride 😌 They end up having this familiarity with each other and even if there’s still a bunch of emotional distance imo and they never really got into the nitty gritty with each other not like her with Chilchuck or even Marcille, they see each other. They nod in greeting and respect each other from afar……. But also still tease and chat familiarly up close and if she offers him the opportunity for cuddles he will take it. You know, if it’s not her just falling onto him because she’s sleeping she has no respect.

Siblings behavior… If you know my take on the general party dynamics, I love thinking of Laios & Izu’s dynamic as him being an older brother figure where they have a love-hate relationship. Siblings rivalry. I have a bunch of funny little doodles I’ve wanted to make with them for months, the prompts for which are in the screenshot put below. But yeah like you know, they’re protective of each other but in that very critical way as well, truly forged by being stuck with each other for a while and having to come to understand and accept how the other is. Strife with conflict, but ultimately sticking with each other through thick and thin… Siblings siblings SIBLINGS SIBLINGS SIBLINGS. Sigh I just want them to cuddle on a couch and she purrs while simultaneously being snide and mean to him, they are so… Izutsumi is the character ever

Oh, which! While I’m here, I always recommend this fanfic about the two of them interacting and Laios treating her like a cat, it’s just fun and lighthearted. They’re suuuuch an underrated duo

If I find more Laios & Izu moments I think are worth sharing I’ll just add it onto this I think. We shouldn’t be too hard on him he was raised by dogs so cats are a whole other language to him but also, so wild to me that he never tried to engage with her on a cat level properly like where is the hissing at the catgirl and the cat taming moments, he sucks at socializing with cats smh smh.

I want to do an analysis of queerness in Dungeon Meshi with relationships and social norms and stuff and Izutsumi’s arc is gonna be central to that too. Her relationship with EVERYONE is SOOO GOOD AND IMPORTANT AND COMPELLING. But I guess this is where I leave it off for now, I hope I’m not forgetting any point I wanted to make hmmm

#Dungeon meshi #delicious in dungeon #Spoilers #dungeon meshi manga spoilers #izutsumi #laios touden #laizu brotp #Analysis #relationship analysis #Idk idk. Scene analysis #arc analysis #Fumi rambles #This is my brother and this is my sister! We are siblings and we care for each other!#What’s that? We have a younger sister. You thought we were two but there is another. Come on Izu snap out of that trance it’s time to do #THE SIBLINGS DANCE #Ask #Falin & Izutsumi would be so good too actually #That “you can trust your sibling to kill you if needed” thing where it’s even more relevant bc of Laios and faligon GGDBDKDB #Killing someone for their own good is siblings coded in dunmeshi real?? /j

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ayyyyysexual · 3 months

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void, can i have a pitch for dungeon meshi. i'm on the fence on if i should watch/read it

*crackes knuckles* YOU CAME TO THE RIGHT PLACE SAGE

okay first of all. do you enjoy autism? do you like infodumps? well I hope so bc our main guy is the personification of "monsters (specifically monster based cuisine) are my special interest and i will take any opportunity to tell ppl why they're so cool"

i call Laois (on the left) our main guy because, at least in my opinion, he's the co-protagonist alongside my absolute fave of all time (sorry izutsumi)

Marcille!!!

she is. literally so amazing.

one thing i was worried about when i started the manga was that she was just gonna be the "damsel in distress/punching bag" of the party, especially as the only girl in the party for a while (her girlfriend got eaten and her frenemy ditched the party, diversity loss ik)

BUT SHE IS NOT!!

she has a worse time than most in the early chapters, but it becomes very clear she's a glass canon (which basically means like, very very powerful, but balanced out by the the fact they have low defense usually, like wizards in dnd having low HP/not being able to wear heavy armour) and not just like. there to be The Token Girl Who Gets Saved

also idk if most people officially refer to her as the co-protagonist but it really does seem like she gets equal focus in the story as Laois does to me, so I call her that

anyway, now that ive gotten the marcille rant out of my system-

the plot!

yknow when people say "[character] is haunting the narrative"? yeah that's basically our girl Falin Touden, sister of Laios, girlfriend best friend of Marcille, and pretty much the glue holding that was holding the party together.

so, when she gets eaten by a dragon it kind of throws the party into disarray. with no food, no money, two less party members and their friend slowly digesting in a dragons stomach, they decide they have to venture into the dungeon with nothing but the equipment on their back and laios's assurance that they can... probably eat monsters safely to survive

luckily, they run into a monster eating expert who decides to join their party to teach them how to eat a balanced monster diet so they can save Falin before she's digested!

and thats basically the deal. its silly, the character dynamics are delightful, the story can get very emotional and touching at times and the world building is absolutely INCREDIBLE and every new character introduced is always so entertaining and amazing

wow that got long!

anyway everyone go read dungeon meshi rn its so fun

#dungeon meshi #dunmeshi #marcille donato #laios touden #delicious in dungeon #ayyynswers #mutuals :D

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neothebean · 25 days

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Finally started reading Dungeon Meshi and I'm already in love and only on page 27 lol

I know Chilchuck and Izutsumi are gonna be my faves, but Laios and I have the same interest with very different end goals (he wants to eat the monsters, I want to pet them) so I love him also lol

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britcision · 24 days

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I have to say thinking on this more the funniest part has to be that toshiro and his family know that izutsumi is their property. They are quite blunt about it. Toshiro's father buys her as a gift for his wife. An animal, a piece of property for her to own. Tade is explicitly purchased because he believes that she will make him money in prize fights, not for any moral reason. Toshiro treats Izutsumi as an annoyance, and decides ultimately this slave is more trouble than it's worth. You can just accept that your fav, while benevolent, is still a participant in a system that holds other people as property.

This is how I can tell y’all can’t read, btw

He’s not my fave, I’ve dropped lists of other things to criticise him and the family for, I’m just calling out the racism in trying to insist a serf is a slave and y’all cannot handle having one less insult

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enderscribbles · 4 months

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hi!!!! thank u for the kind words abt my fics!!! chilchuck is one of my favorite characters possibly of all time so i’m rlly glad to see someone w a shared appreciation for him hehe. i had been wondering why my fics were blowing up recently n i honestly think it’s from ur endorsement, so thank u again!!!! if u ever want to get into the nitty gritty of the chilchuck man himself u know where to find me !!

Aaaaa!!!!! I'm so glad!! You deserve all the recognition <33 I love ruminating on Chilchuck's character and his family and his relationships with the rest of the party because he's a guy that mostly stays at the background, but there's just so much to him... I absolutely adore how you write him!! I definitely want to draw more stuff from your fics, especially Hurry, Hurry (small plug ehe) because it's my fave and you write him and Izutsumi's interactions so so well. <3

#mimi.txt #thank YOU for the good writing #kicking my legs in delight

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llycaons · 2 years

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dungeon meshi?

YEAH!!!!

blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most): MARCILLE MY BELOVED MY EVERYTHING

scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped): IZUTSUMI!!!! also farlyn baby love her. autistic power. hot. wings.

scrimblo bimblo (underrated/underappreciated fave): hmm maybe he's not underrated but I adore kabru. he's a unique character and he doesn't do what you'd expect

glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week): every single fat gnome in ryoko kui's art book <3

poor little meow meow (“problematic” unpopular, controversial, otherwise pathetic fave): laius. definitely the most pathetic of the characters I like

horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason): um the lion demon. freak

eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell): that mfer who tried to kill senshi!!!

thank you!!

#asks

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monstertidbits · 3 years

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Senshi for the character ask!!

First impression: i liked the entire main party from the very first chapter, but he was the one i cared for the least at first lol. i thought he was funny and super sweet (ch3 p23, ch8 p23+27 are still memorable for me hes so hilarious and precious) but yeah not a fave.

Impression now: i love him so so so so so much wtf. hes an incredible character and i dont even remember the exact point he became so important to me, but his backstory is still one of the absolute best parts of the manga. i still think he's funny and supet sweet but now i definitely care about him a lot :')

Favorite moment: chapter 49 is the only chapter ever... and specifically him crying and thanking the group, cuz this keeps making me tear up even though i read it tens of times already.

Idea for a story: not sure what to write here but i love to think about him finally leaving the dungeon and opening a restaurant that becomes incredibly popular so he ends up always surrounded by people (who all like him and his cooking)... and him taking care of kids and helping anyone who happens to pass by his place and seem to need a warm meal... he's such a kind and nurturing person and he's been lonely for too long so yeah that's my idea or like hc for his life after the series ends lol

Unpopular opinion: idk everyone seems to think hes the sexiest dilf ever and i agree.

Favorite relationship: all of his relationships with the main party theyre all so good... his relationships with laios and izutsumi are esp important to me because he's a supportive father figure they both never had... him respecting and caring for izu in a way she never experienced, and him believing in laios the way his own parents never did... goddd 😭😭😭❤❤

Favorite headcanon: mmm i dont know... he is bisexual :)

#thank you sm vicky!!! ^_^#leafslugs #asks

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