OK so heres some of my favorite things that were talked about during the enter the florpus commentary thing yesterday:
one of jhonen's favorite things in the whole movie is the writing in zim's kitchen that says "do anything is real?"
they clarified specifically that gir was not lying and he did in fact eat a baby at the crazy taco
gir smells REALLY bad. theres like rotting organic matter in his body at all times. he stinks
zim's human suit is made out of actual human skin
zim is acting drunk on nacho cheese during that scene in his house because richard horvitz recorded it while drunk
they planned to have this whole thing with tak's ship only agreeing to go to moo-ping 10 because it knows tak is there. they wouldve shown her in silhouette during that brief explosion and she wouldve stowed away on the ship without anyone knowing and then wouldve shown up towards the end of the movie, but they decided to cut it out
zim did not need to frame membrane for a crime in order to get him into space prison and likely just tossed the guards like 5 bucks for it. its a shady place. they did specify though that if he did frame him for something, it would have been jaywalking
they pointed out during that scene where zim is celebrating peace day on dib's lawn that zim's reaction to seeing dib was very much genuine and that's just how his brain works. he is genuinely surprised to see him pop out of his own house. (they also described his reaction as like "being surprised to see your best friend")
the ham joke was ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to the film and at some point jhonen remembered it and was like GUYS. WE ALMOST FORGOT THE HAM
there was supposed to be this joke where it cuts to and from gaz and dib in tak's ship and they would've had to stop at like a warp station or something and theyd be waiting in a long queue of spaceships and the radio is broken in the ship so theyre stuck listening to that one song. then itd cut to them like totally braindead drooling from listening to it for so long. and then a little later itd cut back a FINAL time and theyd know all of the words and both be singing along to it. but this was also cut out so only the last bit remained
when asked "who would win: minimoose or mrs. bitters?" the answer was along the lines of "neither, i think all of us lose in that scenario"
the tallest are just two dudes who happen to be the same height and therefore have to share the same job. they are not brothers and they are also not gay lovers ("as much as you want them to be, they are not. there is no love in this universe")
skooge is in fact alive and lives in zim's basement. they wanted to keep the number of "hey remember this thing from the tv show!" moments to a minimum so he was not mentioned in the movie. but he is there
I know that ‘Germs’ and ‘Dark Harvest’ are only paired together because the original pairing of ‘Bestest Friend’ + ‘Dark Harvest’ was considered just Too Fucked Up but… they really do make an Interesting Pair.
Because these two episodes both kinda follow the same plot hook of ‘Zim gets irrationally obsessively paranoid about something that might blow his mission’ but then go to the total opposite ends of the scale of, like Zim Likeability. Because in ‘Germs’ Zim just kinda comes off mostly as pathetic and pitiful and worthy of sympathy. It really is kinda adorable to see how scared he is of Germs.
And his obsession mostly just hurts himself and his mission (and, like, mildly annoyed GIR), which makes him feel more sympathetic.
And then, there’s ‘Dark Harvest’, which - again - starts from a very similar point of Zim’s paranoia about jeopardizing his mission.
But this time, when he goes too far with his obsession and starts misinterpreting things in a cartoony way (“more organs means more human”) he does so in a way that hurts a lot of people and basically makes him into a Horror Movie Monster.
…actually ‘Bestest Friends’ also kinda has a place here. Since this one is also about Zim’s Anxieties Going Too Far. But it’s, like, the exact midpoint on the scale between these two episodes.
Swinging between moments of extreme sympathetic pitifulness from Zim
And moments of extreme cruelty.
And finally ending on a real culmination of both, a comedic misunderstanding that really showcases the height of paranoia and anxiety that is constantly plaguing Zim, while also alienating him from who is actually the First Person to Genuinely Care About Him
And THEN he does something that's just really fucked up!
IZ! hi <333 i love yoou soo much you're just the kindest and sweetest person but i think you've got just the right amount of edge to make it fun like i love whenever you engage in haterism because it doesn't happen THAT Much but when it does it's good. you're also just very smart and i love hearing your thoughts about Dynamics in f1 like you're so perceptive about little moments between people and i love that <33 also you're so funny i love love love reading your tags on posts they're always great <3
honestly i’m not too sure? i read the shadow market stories as they were coming out and i low key skipped a few cause they were a little boring. i did read the last two stories that way and it was fine (i did miss parts of jessa development tho). i don’t completely remember but i think it should be fine to read them without all the other stories? as long as you read the last two in order
also omg this is iz btw!! i’m the anon from before but i’m un-anoning myself <3 i barely use my account (you can probably tell by my old username) but i’ve had nothing to do this summer and it’s bringing my tsc obsession back. feel free to message me about the books if you’d like!!
omg hey! welcome out of the confines of anonymity! I'm Wren (just realized my name isn't even in my bio, whoopsies). This blog goes in and out of service all of the time so I fully feel you
good to know. I didn't want to mess it up. I think I'm just gonna read those two tonight then and peruse the others at another time. I truly need to get my hands on TFSA anyway cause I miss Simon. Oh and TLH boxset is arriving tomorrow!
niku when i get you niku (<- just finished halloween fic) -iz
ehehehe lil ol' me?? <- my moda impression
But, like!!! 😭😭😭😭 Thank you so much for reading iz!!! I know you're picky so the fact you read and enjoyed Halloween fic!!!! Makes me so happy!!!! Like!! Thank you!! I hope you and apricot jam have a wonderful morning!!!
audio for the enter the florpus live commentary is currently premiering on the zim lost and found channel!! go check it out here it was absolutely hysterical
hii iz <3 happy new year?? is it already 2024 where you are?
ok i already answered 9 but:
11. Something you want to do again next year?
ooh good question. this was not my favorite year so my instinct is to be like i want to leave it all behind but i did learn some things! i guess one thing is that i started exercising more regularly and that actually feels very good and so i'm gonna say more of that <3 amazing how helpful endorphins are to your brain and mood!