#kzinti

[stra-tek]

Kzinti and Star Trek

You don't see many Kzinti in Star Trek, and there's a very good reason for that: They're not actually Star Trek aliens, but a borrow from Larry Niven's Known Space series of books. And so Paramount don't actually own them. "The Slaver Weapon" episode of The Animated Series is an adaptation of Larry's "The Soft Weapon"

TAS' "Slaver Weapon" brought lots of Known Space lore into Trek. 4 Man-Kzin Wars were fought prior to the invention of faster-than-light travel, which really doesn't work in Trek where First Contact established, well, first contact and it was between humans and Vulcans after the first warp flight.

We also saw a Slaver, which have a rich backstory in Known Space where they're known as the Thrint and once ruled over the galaxy with their telepathy.

Some of Niven's backstory fits into Trek but other parts don't.

The Man-Kzin Wars don't. That being said, there have been attempts to bring Kzin back into Trek and several references to them. The Next Gen novel "The Captain's Honor" features the M'dok in the B-plot, a feline species who fought 2 wars with humanity one before the founding of the Federation and one after... sound vaguely familiar? They were originally the Kzin, and had name and details changed to avoid potential legal issues.

The Kzin exist in the Star Fleet Battles tabletop gaming universe (which is like a Trek splinter universe, licensed from TOS, TAS and the Star Fleet Technical Manual but nothing else), but they lack the distinctive bat ears.

Starfleet Command, the videogame adaptation of Star Fleet Battles swaps the Kzinti for the Mirak, again to avoid copyright issues.

But then came Star Trek Picard, where in season one Riker talks about an issue with the Kzinti (apparently permission was sought from Larry Niven and given for the mention) and then Lower Decks gave us Taylor, who is clearly Kzinti but likely will just never have anyone say it out loud just to be on the safe side

Oh, and the 1980 Star Trek Maps were cheeky and called them the K'zinti and hoped the apostrophe would make everything okay.

There have been attempts to bring the Kzinti back to Trek, like a planned Enterprise season 5 episode called "Kilkenny Cats" which was almost resurrected as a New Voyages fan film project. Here's the poster, where they'd replaced the Kzinti with the Kytharri (another Kzin-expy from the DS9 "Prophecy and Change" anthology

The "Kilkenny Cats" story read somewhat like a retread of DS9's "Armageddon Game". There were also attempts to get an animated Star Trek movie made called Lions of the Night, involving Sulu and the Enterprise-B dealing with a Kzinti invasion.

Oh oh, and read Ringworld. It's fantastic. And makes one wonder what the Kzin world is like in the Trek world... because they're unable to stop themselves launching violent wars on neighbours which they have no hope of winning, their world is essentially occupied by humans and that's very un-Trek (which of course makes it 10x more fascinating) indeed. How would Starfleet and the Federation deal with such a threat?

#star trek #known space #larry niven #kzinti #lower decks #star trek enterprise #ringworld #the animated series #star trek tas #deep lore #deep dive #star trek novels #star trek novelverse

[chernobog13]

Science fiction maestro Larry Niven's Kzinti are introduced into the Star Trek universe in The Animated Series episode The Slaver Weapon.

The episode was written by Niven, and adapted one of his short stories, The Soft Weapon, reportedly at the suggestion of Gene Roddenberry.

#Star Trek #Star Trek: The Animated Series #The Slaver Weapon #kzinti #Larry Niven #science fiction #The Soft Weapon

[alphamecha-mkii]

Kzinti Police Vessel by Jim Botaitis

#Star Trek #Kzinti #Sci-Fi #Mecha #Spaceship #Jim Botaitis

[old-type-40]

I'm enjoying SNW for the most part. But like others in the Trek fandom, I wish the show runners hadn't retconned the Gorn as the big threat. And it occurred to me the other night that the Kzinti might have made the perfect antagonists to match our current time. Let me explain.

Star Trek from the very beginning in the 60s has provided social and political commentary. And I believe the Kzinti would be ideal for continuing that with SNW. Kzinti are ruled by a male leader known as the Patriarch. And he would be a perfect stand in for the "strong man" rulers who have risen to power in the 21st century. These leaders brook no dissent, no questioning of their leadership. They impose their will on others in their government and the general population of their countries. And they often seek to impose their wills on those in other countries. They believe (or project the image) that they can do no wrong. The "strong man" leader promises his people "greatness" through the force of his will. (Sadly, too many people readily buy into this BS.) And in the end, these leaders usually make significant mistakes because there is a lack of diversity in viewpoints and honest discussion over the merits of policies and plans.

And that's why I see the Kzinti (under the leadership of the Patriarch) as the ideal antagonist to match our current 21st century time.

#star trek #strange new worlds #snw #snw spoilers #gorn #kzinti

[dogwithglasses]

The Kzinti! Thinking of that writer who spent years working on the 90s Trek shows pitching a Kzinti episode & had been told he might've gotten his chance in season five of Ent....

Yeah!!! When I learned that guy wanted to do a kzinti arc in enterprise if it had continued I got bummed bc I Want That

#star trek #kzinti #lizardsfromspace

[svetavatigris]

Me when i wanna create a cat race that doesn't fall into "fanservice ximbo cats" or "enemies of mankind and evil overlords"

Anyways who wants to hear about my children who evolved from the analog of terrestrial, extinct Homotherium thanks to polydactyly and living in packs

#xenobiology #khajiit #alien cat #alien race #worldbuilding #kzinti

[adafruit]

Screen test Star Trek: The Animated Series - Most Peculiar 🐱🖖

Wrapping up some tests, this was a request - The Animated series! Looks great with the cartoon frame rate sample video on the upcoming ESP32-S3 TFT Experimenter board.

#kzinti #startrekanimated #esp32

[gar-trek]

Look I actually did it, the most random assortment of characters the world has ever seen. I thought everyone would ask me to do star trek characters, and like technically this is half star trek characters they are just so niche you can barely tell.

#I MEAN NEELIX IS LESS NICHE BUT LIKE... hes no spock ya know #sorry neelix nation i do not mean to offend #i wasnt sure if i should tag everyone who asked... erm #well i hope if you asked you end up seeing this lollll #ugh i dont even want to tag this from the franchises #kzinti #star trek #neelix #idk if he has a last name #elaine benes #steven grant #moon knight #obi wan kenobi #star wars #fanart #garsart #yeah this was fun!

[razmerry]

Sooo remember how I said I wasn’t gonna do fully rendered reference sheets for the Blues and Reds? Well I LIED. And also realized that because they all have like, 1 personality trait, I can basically just make them my OCs at this point. Too late, RT, my blorbos now. 

SO here’s some info about CRONUT! Who remembers Cronut? Me and the other 3 Season 15 fans, I’d say. 

- My main premise for the Blues and Reds is that they’re all inversions/opposites/related to the Reds and Blues in some way. In this case, Cronut is a Kzinti while Donut is a Caitian. They’re both cat-people species, but Kzintis are known for being much more warlike and aggressive than Caitians.

- Where Donut is more of a fun mischievous cat who’ll like, bite your ankles but also is nice to you, Cronut is the cat who will sit in the corner staring at you and planning your death. I think it’s so fun to speculate about his motivations, like; in canon, he’s basically got the same personality as Donut, but he’s also working with Temple to do these extremely horrible things with a chipper smile on his face. He’s a little messed up guy! What’s going on inside your brain Cronut!

- Here’s another couple little things about Cronut’s design. Because Donut has the plasma grenade scars on the right half of his face, Cronut has animal attack scars on the left half of his face. His pose is also mirroring Donut’s, if you were to go reference my Donut sheet. And his sash is blue, because I want each of the Blues and Reds to have some blue accent to indicate that they’re much more subservient to Temple than any of the Reds and Blues are to each other. 

- Within the general setup of Temple’s squad, Cronut fulfills the bruiser/brawn role. He’s the one who Temple sends out if he needs a job done very efficiently and probably messily. 

I feel like the only person who cares about Cronut this much, and that’s... okay. Sorry but also not sorry for stealing your character and making him mine, RT. 

Next week is Gene!

#rvb trek #red vs blue #rvb #cronut #star trek #crossover #au #alternate universe #st #the animated series #the next generation #tas #tng #kzinti #kzintis #fanart #digital art #blues and reds

[stonedstarfleet]

Just gotta say, love this dude

#star trek #st:tas #the animated series #star trek the animated series #kzinti

[raurquiz]

#internationalcatday #DiaInternacionalDelGato #startrek #isis #sylvia #tas #mress #kzinti #thenextgeneration #spot #chester #deepspacenine #lowerdecks #drtana #startrekdiscovery #grudge #startrek56 @TrekMovie @TrekCore @StarTrek @StarTrekOnPPlus

#internationalcatday #diainternacionaldelgato #startrek #isis #sylvia #tas #mress #kzinti #thenextgeneration #spot #chester #deepspacenine #lower decks #drtana #star trek discovery #grudge #startrek56

[stra-tek]

An excerpt from I Survived Kirk, a forthcoming trashy tell-all fanfic biography of a bitter redshirt on the U.S.S. Enterprise during the events of TOS and TAS...

Ask the Kzinti how evolved and peaceful humanity are.  They’re the space cats the Federation declawed.  A warrior race, forced to live on what is essentially a Federation-occupied world.  After losing four wars with humanity, we basically quarantined them and forbade them from building ships with more than the most basic of weaponry.  It’s a shitty situation for sure, they’re right next door to our core worlds and seemingly are biologically unable to stop themselves from launching wars of aggression against their neighbours.  I know it’s racial profiling at it’s worst to make this comparison, but tell a cat not to try and catch a mouse and see how well that goes.  I shudder to think how the Klingon situation is going to end.  Can anyone else picture the Klingon homeworld in Federation territory and a populace forced to take anti-aggression drugs?

The Kzinti don’t get much attention these days.  They’re left out of history text books, because you can’t teach people that they’re in utopia when that utopia is built on the oppression of another species.  I don’t know what other alternatives are available besides what we did.  But I’m deeply bothered by that history being glossed over.  Federation President Ken Wescott is allowing this to happen.  There are probably people out there now who don’t know the first thing about the four Man/Kzin wars, because they’d rather teach that humans were destined for greatness among the stars and that as soon as we met the Vulcans everything was a constant state of orgasmic bliss.

#star trek #the original series #tos #kirk #kzinti #fanfic #star trek fic #my fic writing #i survived kirk

[sptoastaddict]

There’s a page for the Kzinti on Federation Space presently

https://wiki.fed-space.com/index.php?title=Kzinti

#kzin #kzinti #federation space #star trek #man-kzin wars #larry niven #taylor the kzin

[allegorymetaphory]

Riker says "We've been having trouble with the kzinti" and that's a fucking reference! I had flashbacks of that TAS episode Larry Niven put his OCs into.

#picard #star trek picard #will riker #kzinti #larry niven #picard season 1

[autoacafiles]

#Autobot Atlas #Galactic Council #Kzin #Kzinti #Star Trek #Known Space

[wirelessw]

Am reading Ringworld. Gonna be honest, I’m imagining all of Speaker’s lines in the voice of Christopher Judge as Kratos.

“Look, Speaker, a tower!”

“Close your heart to it, Teela.”

#ringworld #larry niven #kzin #kzinti #sf #science fiction #be a lot cooler if the author wasn't clearly a misogynist tbh