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fuzzydreamin · 1 year

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Thoughts on Liam Binet/Patriot

Reminder for who he is: He's the 'kid' (young adult) in the Institute who helps free synths by creating false work orders to send them up to the surface.

His father created Gen 3 synths as they are today, and since the death of his mother his father took to having a 'personal synth' named Eve to take her place - though he claims it's not to replace her but as a test of what a synth can do when put in that situation. Still seems... weird. Eve is okay with her position, and claims to love Liam as a mother, but… still…

His dad taught him right with the whole ‘science should never be dispassionate’ thing, and his dads leanings towards synths being thinking, feeling people, as half-baked as his constitution towards those thoughts are (again considering the Eve thing and that he still turns a blind eye to their slavery) were likely a big contributor to Liam helping synths escape, but then we get to Liam actually helping the synths and...

I feel he gets too much credit.

Now I don’t mean to downplay the role he did play. Liam did a hell of a lot of good for a lot of synths. Without him they would have had a much harder time escaping, but we also know that synths had been escaping before Liam started helping out with the cause.

Per the Railroad Terminal entries we can see that Liam has been helping synths for about 5 years or so, but we know that they've been escaping for over 10 years as of Fo4.

In Fo3 we know that it's not entirely uncommon already, with Harkness explaining how he was a courser (one of the first) designed to capture his own kind, and Danse has been in the brotherhood for over ten years as of Fo4 since he recalls the events of Broken Steel, commenting on a paladin (his own sponsor, Krieg) who died at the airforce base shortly after he was made Paladin (thus revealing Danse was already a Paladin during the events of Fo3).

So Liam has only been helping to free synths for about half of the amount of time that they have been escaping the Institute. Essentially: he’s boosted their success/numbers but they didn’t need him.

But here's the thing: Liam himself admits that he only started freeing synths as a personal test of his hacking skills - just to see if he could. He didn’t do it because he cared about synths and their freedom, he did it to prove a point to himself that he thinks he’s better than the SRB. He’s showing his ego, and it’s a continuous thing. Not to say having ego at all is wrong, doing good is still good even if you do it to feel good. Net gains and all. But you can see his ego about this in his dialogue choices too, the way he proudly explains to you how he did it, smug about his own cleverness, and yet he then has comments about Tinker Tom breaking the cypher and the possibility of the SRB doing the same shows that maybe he isn’t as clever as he thinks - and it may have just been a matter of time before the SRB did just that, you just got to it first by luck.

(Another dumb in-game thing is how the ‘Plugging A Leak’ quest plays out - it’s pretty obvious after only checking a few terminals that Liam is the guilty party, but the quest keeps pushing you towards his dad for their own storytelling purposes.)

Now, while Liam claims to worry about the synths' well-being on the surface world and even asking you in your very first conversation with him what it's like up there, it seems that the freedom of synths is still a secondary feature of the whole thing to him. Even in the current day when you meet him, he isn't interested in methods that actually free as many synths as possible, just a large enough number to satisfy himself and let him feel like he has done something.

He’ll go through the systems and unlock some doors for you, still looking to feed his ego as some great hacker as he praises himself all the while, but if you kill a few of the Institute’s people in your pursuit to rescue many other people he turns on you. Showing he still values the comfort of the Institute scientists over the freedom of a sentient race.

And if you succeed in putting a stop to the Institute with the Railroad (and I have more than a few issues with the way the game handles you dealing with the Institute as a whole, but that's not for this post) he will commit suicide and name you in his letter as the cause. And he starts off this letter by once again letting his ego shine.

“You betrayed me. ME! After all I did for you. I trusted you. I risked everything to help synths. To help you. And this? This is how you repay me?

My father is dead. Everyone I loved and cared about was vaporized or lost in this barren irradiated shithole. Because of you.

I used to feel sorry for you. You lost your son. You missed out on every moment of his life. Now, I see it's only what you deserved.

I cannot live with myself. Due to my stupid trust in you I've destroyed humanity's best hope for the future. If there's any fairness in the world you'll never get a good night's sleep in what remains of your hopefully short, miserable life.”

Not to be insensitive to Liam, these were people he knew, everything he grew up knowing - but this was a war on literal slavery, and there was literally only one way this could have played out. The other is the one that gets him kicked out of his home and stops any synths at all being freed. What did he expect? That you’d take over and just let him trickle out a few synths every now and then? Even as the head director, the other directors would never have allowed it if it was an option. You were always going to have to fight for it. Even if Bethesda’s narrative was different, there would have always been casualties to freeing the synths.

Those people could have raised their hands in defeat and left with their lives. Unless you are going in with the Brotherhood it’s highly unlikely that the majority of people in the Institute wouldn’t be allowed to leave. They’d be considered a threat still, but much less of one without all their tech. And while it might not be fair to say that they shouldn't fight for their home, but if they did that was their choice, and not on the player for fighting to free slaves.

Right to the end Liam is an egocentric know-it-all, too convinced of his own genius, who still drinks the kool-aid of the Institute being ‘humanity's best hope’ (the truth of this statement is again something for another rant) despite the obvious flaws.

In the end it comes off that he would have been happy to continue to let the Institute create and abuse synths, so long as he could pat himself on the back for assisting a very minor amount in gaining freedom by using his great big hacker brain. He wants to feel like he’s doing good without actually commiting to it. Because doing that would risk shaking up his own comfy life.

So no, while I do admit that Liam no doubt helped a lot of synths those past few years, I don’t think he’s as much of a hero as the Railroad touts upon his death. And my biggest issue of it all comes down to the hero that gets ignored in his place, while everyone is crying about Liam and singing his praises.

To me, the real hero of the act here is Z1-14.

I mean, just from a narrative standpoint alone it’s a better bit: He's a synth actively working from inside to help free his own people, at a much greater cost than Liam, the cost of his own chance at freedom or even a continued existence within the Institute if he’s caught. He doesn’t have the Railroad backing him up either, because he is staying inside to help from that end.

Terminal entries let us know that he's been kicking around for about 50-60 years. He's probably been the single most helpful person to freeing synths since gen 3 synths were first invented. And he could have gotten free at any point since he had the access to Liam and whatever other methods they used to get out before Liam started helping.

He claims to have never met another human willing to help before Liam. Maybe because none really did ever want to help. Maybe because he couldn’t trust them enough to approach them and find out for sure. Because again, he is risking everything.

If Liam is caught he is sent to live out the rest of his days on the surface - this is the worst punishment that the Institute can think of, perhaps besides killing someone to keep them from sharing the Institute's secrets. But even then some might find death preferable, they’ve been raised on stories about how terrible the outside world is and how being up there would surely only lead to suffering and a slow and painful death. So sure, to someone from the Institute that’s a scary thought, but being kicked out still means they are alive, and free, and simply in the same situation as most other people now. At the worst he’s lost access to his family and a privileged life. Hard but livable.

Z1-14 on the other hand risks potential torture at the hands of a courser, erasure of his personality, and even physical death. Having his memories uploaded and erased from his own head, resetting him to a version that's not even him anymore, or potentially being scrapped completely. All to help his people above himself.

He's out here risking everything to make regular contact with Liam, to find ways to help as many people get out as he can, and despite his obvious fears of discovery he's even quick to approach you to find more / better ways of saving these people than what Liam is offering to him.

And he never gets credit for that.

He fights by your side when you take down the Institute with the Railroad, and all he gets is a “no need to thank us” and “It’s not over yet” from Desdemona.

Like, you should be thanking him, Des!

Anyway this was a long winded way of saying Liam can get tossed out the window and I would do anything for Z1.

Z1 is love. Z1 is life.

#rambling about the Insitute and Railroad #I don't mean to come off as a Liam hater okay #but hes stealing the show from Z1 and Z1 is perfect #the institute #the railroad #z1-14 #liam binet #fuzzy.post

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sas-afras · 4 months

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the two ends of fo4 character design being “grizzled 40 year old man” and “10 year old child” is sad as hell, i think there should have been a contingent of shitty teenagers in the institute who memed on shaun’s death the same way we all did about the queen of england

#not art #i think liam binet is Implied to be a teen/young adult but i can’t remember if it’s ever confirmed?

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pillowprincessvarric · 7 months

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I've never actually played all the way through the fo4 endgame but I do know p much everything that happens so there's a lot I'm looking forward to lol

#looking forward to whatever psychological damage synth shaun does to my girl looking forward to actually playing Blind Betrayal #very preemptively sad about liam binet :(

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luimnigh · 26 days

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Fun Fact: Fallout 4 is the only Bethesda game to feature an Academy Award winner as part of it's cast.

Other Bethesda games have featured nominees like Liam Neeson and Max Von Sydow, but Fallout 4 managed to nab a future winner as a minor supporting character.

That character is Liam Binet, a young member of the Institute who serves as mole for the Railroad, and features in the Railroad's quest line. He's the one who's helping Synths escape from the Institute itself.

He's played by Finneas O'Connell, an American musician who would later go one to win two Academy Awards for Best Original Song, alongside his sister Billie Eilish.

#fallout #fallout 4

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dance-world · 4 months

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Harris Bell - The Royal Ballet - photo by Kosmas Pavlos

Scottish dancer Harris Bell is a First Artist of The Royal Ballet. He joined The Royal Ballet’s Aud Jebsen Young Dancers Programme from the start of the 2018/19 Season and was promoted to Artist in 2019 and First Artist in 2023.

Growing up in Dollar, Scotland, he started ballet at the age of seven and went on to train at Elmhurst Ballet School and The Royal Ballet School, graduating through the school. Awards included Most Promising Boy 2013 at Elmhurst Ballet School and third place in the Lynn Seymour Award for Expressive Dance 2016 while at The Royal Ballet School.

Roles in the School’s annual matinees included Didy Veldman’s See Blue Through, Frederick Ashton's The Two Pigeons, Robert Binet's Self and Soul pas de deux, Liam Scarlett's Third Movement and Aurora's Wedding in Anthony Dowell's adaptation of The Sleeping Beauty.

He represented The Royal Ballet School at the Gala Des Ecoles 2017 performing the 2nd Movement from Kenneth MacMillan's Concerto at the Palais Garnier, Paris. He performed with the Company as a student in Christopher Wheeldon's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and The Winter's Tale, Kenneth MacMillan's Manon, Frederick Ashton's Sylvia and Liam Scarlett's Swan Lake.

His repertory with the Company includes Spanish dance (Swan Lake, The Nutcracker), Matvei (A Month in the Country) and roles in Like Water for Chocolate). He created a role in Untitled, 2023.

#Harris Bell #The Royal Ballet #Kosmas Pavlos #dancer #bailarín #ballerino #danseur #tänzer #boys of ballet #ballet men #dance #ballet

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nthflower · 10 months

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I don't feel sympathy for Liam binet tbh

#shame #i could make him a great settler here #why he get a funeral and not glory #fallout 4 #geym

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wasteland-photography · 2 years

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“Your message was only one word: "Friend".”

Institute, 2288

#fallout #fallout 4 #fo4 screenshots #sole survivor #liam binet #fo4 institute #fo4 npcs #screenshot #film workshop #wasteland-photography #new #2022

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commonwealthoccurences · 3 years

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HCs: Sole Helps Liam Binet Come Out To His Dad

CW: Coming out stress and fear of homophobia (no homophobia)

Liam paces when he’s nervous and stressed, Sole finds out pretty quick

They let him get out his anxious energy and simply talk him through his worries as he keeps moving

He’s worried his dad won’t accept him, obviously, and expresses this to Sole

Sole reminds him he always has a place with them if he needs, and that they have his back no matter what

The chance of his dad being homophobic is slim to none considering the Institute is completely accepting of gay people, but that thought’s always there for Liam

Sole is more than happy to open up their arms and give him a tight, reassuring hug when he finally stops pacing

They set a day to have lunch with his dad, whom they practically have to wrestle out of work to agree to it, and Liam doesn’t stop fidgeting as he waits for the day to arrive

When it does come Sole comes over as he gets ready for moral support and he’s quiet

The stress was getting to him, they knew, so they put on the radio and chatted with him to take his mind off things

When it was time for them to leave Liam hesitated in the doorway and Sole put their hands on his shoulders, “You’ve got this, okay? I’m right here no matter what.”

He nods but it’s difficult for him to smile past the nerves

His dad can already tell somethings up when they sit down for lunch

Sole can tell just by his expression but neither of them say anything and instead get their food

Liam doesn’t touch his food and pushes it around his plate, so his father finally asks what’s going up

The words come out a little jumbled and hesitant, but he eventually gets it outThere’s a small silence

“I’m just fine with that, Liam. You have no reason to worry.

”It’s a rare soft moment for the two of them and Liam nearly starts crying from relief

Sole’s beaming as they rub his shoulder comfortingly

Lunch after that is a quieter affair until Liam’s father starts talking about the research they’re working on

#fallout 4 #fo4 #headcanons #fluff #Liam Binet

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fallout-confessions · 3 years

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[Text ID: Liam Binet is a twink.]

I realized my posts weren’t the most accessible.

#fallout #fallout 4 #fo4 #liam binet #confession #confessions #fallout confession #confession blog

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darling-leech · 3 years

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Alex is friends with Liam Binet and Brendan Volkert. *I also headcanon Liam Binet as Gay and Brendan Volkert as Bisexual(And Liam Binet has a crush on Brendan Volkert).*

#fallout 4 #fallout #fallout oc #fallout 4 oc #the institute #self insert #self insert oc #oc #eugenia(aka alex. my self insert oc)#eugenia #eu #alex #liam binet #brendan volkert #screenshot #screenshots #photoset

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halfd3af · 5 years

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Okay so I’m looking at dialogue references for fanfic writing per usual and just... this one keeps tripping me up. Liam, is this how you’ve been sneaking out synths the whole time?

After a synth goes missing, wouldn’t the SRB look at said papers? And after realizing that they’re forged, to begin searching for the culprit? Wouldn’t they then alter how said papers are created to make forgeries more difficult? Wouldn’t they tighten terminal security as well to prevent these forgeries since they’re probably made electronically? Like, that’s the SRB’s whole fucking job, preventing synths from escaping.

I feel like the SRB would be WAY more competent at their job and have found Liam a long time ago.

#this is what my brain focuses on instead of the Larger Plot Problems in Fallout 4 #I wanna write these weird inconsistencies A Million Times Better #liam binet #fallout 4

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veshialles · 5 years

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The Defector

Six months into the war against the Institute, a familiar face appeared at the gates of Sanctuary; the courser known as X6-88. He came to them not as an attacker, but as a seeker of asylum, demanding an audience with General Chisholm. A bold move, one that nearly cost him his life, but in the end it earned him freedom.

He brought news of happenings within the Institute; Gen-3 synth production had been all but come to a pause, in favour of the more expendable Gen-1′s and Gen-2′s. No doubt this was partly a result of the dissent among the Gen-3′s which had only grown worse since Liam Binet had been exposed as a leak and was made an example of. His fate strengthened the resolve of the cause that Z1-14 was now spearheading behind closed doors, and it also served to open the eyes of those who had never before questioned their loyalties, X6 included.

For the latter half of the war, X6 would fight alongside the Commonwealth Alliance against his former masters, mainly working with the Railroad’s specialists who would benefit most from his unique expertise as a former courser. While he continued to work with them, members of the Railroad often insisted he choose a new name, but X6 was the only designation he had ever known, and he elected to keep it. Though he would eventually begin to accept simply going by X. “Only one syllable, far more efficient.” he often jokes.

Fun fact below the cut, if anyone’s interested

Okay so basically what actually happened was that my game glitched out and X6 refused to leave the settlement and didn’t turn hostile, but I was still able to trade gear with him, so I gave him a more rebellious look and this headcanon just kind of formed around that. Honestly, I like this explanation much better.

#oof that clipping though. But I like the outfit anyways #fallout 4 #x6-88 #liam binet #z1-14 #courser #the institute #the institute war #my screenshots #valerie chisholm #commonwealth alliance #minutemen #brotherhood of steel #railroad #ruby's ocs

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