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dedalvs · 1 year
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Well now I HAVE to ask how to say/write "chicken" in your various languages!
Oh here we go...
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Azrán: upózh
Bodzvokhan: dǝq
Castithan: chikano (< English)
Dothraki: jiz
Hen Linge: mak
High Valyrian: ñoves (rooster), qulbes (hen)
Irathient: tisese
Kamakawi: iki (animal), i'iki (food)
Méníshè: t'òdír
Noalath: vokach
Övüsi: kuge
Ravkan: shuk (rooster), shuka (hen)
Trigedasleng: omi (generic), egleya (hen)
Yulish: bökki
Zemeni: wela
Zhyler: levžel
That's not all of them, but that's a lot of them!
(Btw, I was sitting here coming up with this list, and @quothalinguist glances at it and is instantly like, "You're coming up with words for 'chicken'? Méníshè's got one!' And, of course, she was right!)
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significant-bullet · 3 years
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I made another Shannara side blog in the year 2021
Naturally, now that no one is interested, I decided to compile dedalvs' posts on Noalath - the conlang created for The Shannara Chronicles - so I have an easier access to them myself. I will also try to whip up some more detailed glosses of the dialogue he posted. I find it the best way of learning a language; maybe it will also be of interest to someone else, so I'll try to put them up as pics or pdfs.
The title of the blog stands for ‘in death, as in life.’
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hi so a month ago i asked about language and world building (thank u btw u are the best) but now I feel so overwhelmed by everything, I have characters and plot but creating a new language and building this new world is blocking me from writing I don’t know what to do or how to make it simpler :/
Overwhelmed by World Building and Conlang
Jumping ahead to answer this one since it’s related to a previous ask.
There are two things you need to know about world building and creating a language for fantasy:
1. You don’t need to have your entire world (or any of it) created, fleshed out, or otherwise planned before you start writing your first draft.
2. You don’t need to create an entire language (or even part of one) for your novel.
Some people enjoy doing both of these things, so that’s why you’ll see lots of posts, blogs, vlogs, podcasts, articles, etc., dedicated to world building and conlang (constructed language). But most writers don’t sit down and build an entire world from the ground up and/or create an entire language that someone could be taught to speak fluently. That’s just not what actually happens. Could some writers do that? Sure. Do some writers do that? Maybe? Do most writers do that? No…
The only thing you need to flesh out about your story’s world before you start writing is a very basic picture in your mind of what that world would be. Is it like Earth? Is it more like Mars if it had oxygen and one half was covered by a vast purple-treed forest? Is it a giant ocean world where the only land masses are clusters of small, scattered islands? Is it a sort of Earth-like world where everything north of the equator is icy and cold, and everything south is humid jungle? That’s it–that’s all you need to know. You don’t need to know every land mass, it’s name, who lives there, who rules there. You don’t need to know all the plants and animals in every ecosystem. You don’t need to know the borders and the geopolitics of every land or nation. You just need to be able to imagine this world in your head so you can start writing about it. Anything that is actually important to your story you can either stop and flesh out as you go, or you can make something up as a placeholder and flesh it out after your first draft. There’s absolutely zero point in sitting around and wasting a bunch of time stressing out about creating a functioning world from scratch because you wouldn’t even use 99% of that.
As far as the language goes, most writers don’t sit down and create an entire language that someone could be taught to speak fluently. Most writers just make up words that sound like they belong to the same language. When books are made into TV shows and movies, those languages are often fleshed out by experts in constructed languages, like conlang expert David J. Peterson, who has fleshed out and/or created languages for many TV shows and movies that were based on books, including High Valyrian and Dothraki for the TV show Game of Thrones, Trigedasleng for the TV show The 100, Sondiv for the TV show Starcrossed, Noalath for the TV show The Shannara Chronicles, and Shiväisith, spoken by the Dark Elves in the movie Thor: The Dark World, among many others.
Have a look at what George R.R. Martin has to say about the languages of Dothraki and High Valyrian used in his A Song of Ice and Fire series upon which the TV show Game of Thrones was created:
“A few years ago, I got a very nice email from a reader who wanted to know more about the vocabulary and syntax of High Valyrian… I blush to admit that I had to reply, ‘Uh … well … all I know about High Valyrian is the seven words I’ve made up to date. When I need an eighth, I’ll make that up too … but I don’t have a whole imaginary language in my desk here, the way Tolkien did.” And, regarding Dothraki, “Lots of characters speak the language of the horselords in my novels, and I did pepper the text with a few Dothraki words like khal and arakh … but for the most part I was content just to say, ‘They were speaking Dothraki’, and give the sense of what was said, playing with the syntax and sentence rhythms a bit to convey a flavour.” (You can read the entire post here.)So, you have the characters, you have the plot. Just figure out the absolute basics of this world in your head (snow world, water world, Mars-like world, Earth-based world, whatever), maybe snag a few inspiration images off Google for specific lands or places, and you’re good to go. Let your imagination do the rest as you write. This is what being a writer is all about. :)
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dedalvs · 1 year
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Just saying thanks, many years late, for creating an interesting language in Noalath on The Shannara Chronicles. A while back I ended up reblogging all your Noalath posts in one place for an easy Tumblr experience: @noalath-resource. Haven’t added any thoughts of my own there, but I’ll most likely bug you with another ask if I have some questions (I do in fact have some Questions About Verbs, mainly participles and nominal derivation)
Hey, thank you! I really, really like that language. I wish the show would've stuck around just so I could keep using it. In case you weren't aware, I've added a lot of info about the language here. But you can always ask questions here on Tumblr, too. :)
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dedalvs · 6 days
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Hello. I've been playing around with creating a conlang for a fanfic I'm working on, but I may be over my head, particularly in regards to trying to pin down the rules for grammar. From the looks of things, most of the languages you create are for 'alien' worlds, ie not based on a real human culture, but if you were asked to do that, would you say it's easier or harder?
Hmmm... I'm not sure that's true. Languages I've created for "alien" cultures:
Castithan
Indojisnen
Inha
Irathient
Kinuk'aaz
Lishepus
Sangheili
Sondiv
Ts'íts'àsh
Languages I've created for human cultures:
Aazh Naamori
Afata
Astapori Valyrian
Azrán
Bodzvokhan
Chakobsa
Dothraki
Fjerdan
Gandal
G'vunnǝ
Hen Linge
High Valyrian
Kezhwa
Méníshè
Munja'kin
Noalath
Övüsi
Ravkan
Shivaisith
Shu
Trigedasleng
Veda
Zemeni
I don't think it's easier or harder. It's pretty much the same.
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dedalvs · 1 year
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DUDE was no one going to tell me that the same person was behind my favorite TV conlangs (trigedasleng, hen linge, and noalath)??? I just found your page and all of your resources on the languages you've created and your AO3 translations and I am VIBRATING with excitement. You are seriously an inspiration and I love your work so much
Don’t forget Penny Dreadful, which I’m rewatching right now! That show is so damn good…
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Are you still developing the Noalath language?
You know it! I’ll continue working on all my languages till I die.
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Not sure if you haven't posted it yet or if I just missed it, but I was wondering if you posted or would post the dialog when allanon and Mareth are being burned at the stake?
Old ask, but I’m pretty sure I did…? If you didn’t find it, let me know.
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Noalath Dialogue, Episode 210 of The Shannara Chronicles
This is the Noalath dialogue I translated for episode 210 of The Shannara Chronicles. Not all the dialogue here is guaranteed to have been in this episode in exactly this form.
WARLOCK LORD I cast his soul into the third ring of the Forbidding. Besnit hus ü choth tech ba shain yeyil an Tulemona.
WARLOCK LORD With my blood, I curse this water. From this day until the end of time, may darkness reign. Thun nevith uch, dulva hus ü zhesha ash. Thun eyon ash chi chaf an nen, e yenúsod e nezhara.
COGLINE Demon of darkness, I call you forth. And from this vessel, I cast you out! E hairoha an nezhar, lof ash hus shef. Er thun neas ash, voya aran hus shef!
COGLINE With light, I call you. With blood, I purge you. Thun tor, lof hus shef. Thun Nevith, voshaige hus shef.
COGLINE With magic, ancient, I command you... Release this child! Thun geach, e himboracha, ebéka hus chi shef... E yomelo ü mana ash!
COGLINE Darkness to light. Void to form. Purge this demon! Nezhar chi chor. Oarad chi jeas. E yoya aran ü chairok ash!
COGLINE Demon of darkness, I cast you out! E hairoha an nezhar, voya aran hus shef!
MARETH For the fallen one, Allanon. May your spirit find peace, and your wisdom guide me from beyond, for all my days. Is ebalidhin, Alanon. E hun ü shinnaidar, e hora tsech, er e yoshun shi thun mairavak, e balara tsech, blen tsin eyon uch.
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Hello Mr. Peterson. I see that you've started to put some intel about Noalath. Is it possible for you to put some info about the grammar and phonology of the dialog? :3
But I did…? Did you ever search my Tumblr with the tag “Noalath grammar”? I did pretty much the entire grammar throughout the course of season 1. Few paid it any attention. I put up a new bit of grammar with each dialogue post. This one shows the romanization. This huge one goes over the consonant mutations and noun cases. This one talks about the articles. This one introduces pronouns, etc. It’s all there! People just didn’t seem as interested. Maybe they are now, though, so those are good posts to go look through. I haven’t done a thorough review, but I think just about everything you need is in there.
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Hey, David! Did you do any Noalath for season 2?
Lots—more than for season 1, in fact. You can see all the dialogue translation I did starting here. Why do you ask?
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Noalath Dialogue, Episode 201 of The Shannara Chronicles
This is the Noalath dialogue I translated for episode 201 of The Shannara Chronicles. Not all the dialogue here is guaranteed to have been in this episode in exactly this form.
BANDON By the power of this black blade I summon this heart to beat once more. Thun pemarach an neva bath ash, lof ash hus juth ash iha mal ranosh.
BANDON With thanks and humility I ask that this heart’s life force be renewed. Thun pijelmayar er anithayar, lora hus iha fichûs juthath an nguth ash.
BANDON ...that its cold chambers beat again... ...iha mal tha vashodavach ilvezh ranosh...
BANDON ...and that the blood of our master, the Warlock Lord, flow once more. ...er iha shuva ranosh devith an morach ngof, an Meath Nefardrik.
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Noalath Dialogue, Episode 208 of The Shannara Chronicles
This is the Noalath dialogue I translated for episode 208 of The Shannara Chronicles. Not all the dialogue here is guaranteed to have been in this episode in exactly this form.
WARLOCK LORD From death to life. From earth to sun. From blackness to light. Thun jöth chi juthar. Thun pordho chi zhova. Thun bathar chi shor.
WARLOCK LORD From the depths, this soul shall return to walk among us... Thun mokath, hi yu zhiyúk ba choth ash iha meron fi jof...
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Noalath Dialogue, Episode 207 of The Shannara Chronicles
This is the Noalath dialogue I translated for episode 207 of The Shannara Chronicles. Not all the dialogue here is guaranteed to have been in this episode in exactly this form.
BANDON Clear the fort. Leave no one alive. E yoyoar ü yemavak. E vesluk chi yeshef ü juth.
BANDON It has begun. Hi yan tail thil.
MARETH Bring me to the Druid Allanon. Let me join him in the dream world through which he now walks... E yoshun ich chi Yeadrik Alanon. E vesluk chi’ch ü shedhas ich chi shil ba meath duthomar yoth meron thil rak fi shil...
BANDON With the blood of one Druid I summon the soul of another. Thun nevith aich Neadrik, lof ash hus ü choth nyoshilach.
BANDON When the sun turns black, and the sky runs red, the dark lord will be reborn. Ba yenach fembátha rova, er fenníma sile, hi yu zhiyúk ba beath nyezha.
BANDON By the light of the unholy union of the sun and the moon, I call forth my lord and master. Thun tor an edhasarach atugopa an dova er an eleha, lof ash hus ü beath er morach uch.
ALLANON From the mists of this sacred place, I summon the shade of my mentor, Bremen. Thun nushe an iyarach meran ash, lof ash hus ü chainidhin an noladash uch, ü Bremen.
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Noalath Dialogue, Episode 206 of The Shannara Chronicles
This is the Noalath dialogue I translated for episode 206 of The Shannara Chronicles. Not all the dialogue here is guaranteed to have been in this episode in exactly this form. (Note: There was no Noalath dialogue in episode 205.)
MARETH From this prison, I call forth Bandon. Thun nangavak thash, lof ash hus Bandon.
MARETH From this prison, I call forth Allanon. Thun nangavak thash, lof ash hus Alanon.
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dedalvs · 6 years
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Noalath Dialogue, Episode 202 of The Shannara Chronicles
This is the Noalath dialogue I translated for episode 202 of The Shannara Chronicles. Not all the dialogue here is guaranteed to have been in this episode in exactly this form.
RIGA Allanon. Last Druid of Paranor. It is a great honor. Alanona. Leadriha dhora an Baranor. Hi yenáina thil ich gochash.
ALLANON General Riga, the madman responsible for the Crimson. As for honor--you possess none. Riga Enisadasha, e amesacha oth vorojina ü Jimiro. Fi yenáinar--hi sef bachól par.
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