#not to mention oliver and ryan’s chemistry

[mishtershpock]

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#right so #firstly: oliver stark i love you please never stop #the way he talks about buck is so nice!! not to mention always reiterating that the show was queer before bi buck was confirmed #secondly: oliver stark i love you but please stop!!! #lmao. ben affleck smoking jpeg #i completely understand his reasoning behind what he says about tommy #he can’t confirm or deny anything and changes are he doesn’t even know anything. just like before #when he was waxing poetic about natalia and buck’s future #i just do not like the whole narrative of tommy being a perfect queer elder who can do no wrong and is there to guide buck through this #it’s a disservice to his character. and to buck’s #and to eddie’s if you really wanna go there #tommy is the perfect first boyfriend because he’s got experience. right? that’s what we’re saying? #experience does not equal perfection #and like i said the other day. it suggests eddie is not worthy of being a queer love yet because he has no experience #they hadn’t written the final episodes yet for a reason. they’re posting positive b/t posts on social media for a reason #they’re testing fan reactions to decide what to do with b/t. sorry but i genuinely think that’s the reason #and this characterisation of tommy as perfect and ideal for buck and they’re smitten etc #a second ben affleck smoking jpeg #i have nothing against tommy or b/t together or multi shippers. nothing at all #but i sweaaarrrrrr #if i lose out on the ship who have 6 years friendship and a history of getting through neg and pos experiences together #coparenting and saving each others’ lives. literally and figuratively #being so intrinsically linked to each other #not to mention oliver and ryan’s chemistry #if i lose out on that because people can’t stop screaming about tommy on social media #i will implode and take this place with me #especially because focusing on buck’s lovely new perfect relationship will probably mean that eddie is pushed aside #with a shitty storyline they put no effort into. wait what who said that that’s crazy #i agree that bi buck isn’t about eddie (it’s not about tommy either) and potential queer eddie isn’t about buck #but i’m so done with people saying we can’t hope the two storylines come together in the future. why is it suddenly bad to want buddie

[lemotmo]

Okay, I caved and watched the Oliver and Lou interview.

Seriously, that was it? It was five minutes of inconsequental talk about everything but Buck and Tommy's relationship. This is what people were panicking over? Or this is what some people are fawning over? Sorry, but that is just funny.

Oliver talked a bit about how Tim called him up, during ep 2, and said we're doing the bi Buck storyline in episode 4 with Tommy. Then they talked a few seconds about it.

Lou said something about how BT are in a good place 'right now' and the relationship had a lovely reception from viewers. He also mentions he 'hopes' it will continue to be in a good place. All very vague.

After that they never really talked about BT anymore.

When the interviewers asked about the finale and what they could share about it, Oliver just said 'heartbreak', which we all already knew about. He did seem more animated and happy to talk about the finale than the BT relationship though.

The rest of the interview had nothing to do with 911 anymore.

What else could they have possibly talked about? Nothing. Because nothing of consequence has actually happened between them.

I do think it's interesting how Lou said it's in a good place 'right now'. We have two more episodes to go. This really makes me think they won't be in a good place anymore by the finale, hence they won't be able to do promo like this anymore. It's such an odd time to air an interview like this. It's some extra promo, but ultimately, for me it once again confirmed that Tommy is a narrative foil.

Oliver didn't even post anything about the interview. He only posted about the episode, nothing else. Once again reaffirms that he doesn't want to lead fans on.

I also feel as if Oliver and Lou haven't talked all that much. They seem very awkward sitting next to each other. I don't know. I could be wrong about it, but that is what it feels like to me.

Compared to the Ryan/Oliver interviews where they talk about the ship, the fandom and even the fanart, this was just lackluster. A bit like the BT relationship on the show. No chemistry there whatsoever.

Anyway, time to move on from this and focus on the episode. I'm so excited and terrified at the same time about what they are going to put Eddie through.😬

#911 spoilers #oliver stark #911 abc #lou and oliver interview

[bbbuckaroo]

What’s your honest opinion on the Oliver and Lou interview?

Some Buddie shippers are saying it was awkward and Oliver hates Lou. Comparing it to the when Ryan and Lou first started doing press.

Personally I don’t think it was awkward at all. The only time it was weird when Mario Lopez mentioned Lou’s father which he has a not so great relationship with and you could tell Oliver was comforting Lou. Lou clearly got upset and in his answer didn’t his father and made it clear he mentioned his mother. I know ABC PR was there so idk why they didn’t step in to stop that questioning?

It’s sad after Ryan podcast mentioning mental health it seems like some shippers only care about Ryan’s mental health and not anyone else’s on the cast.

Also the photos Lou posted on his IG aren’t flattering on him or Oliver and the shippers are using that as their evidence. I think the talk show sent them to him to us and made the hosts look better 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

I thought it was a great little snippet of Lou and Oliver’s relationship, especially for those who think they don’t even like each other. Definitely showcased more of their chemistry both on and off the screen. I do think it was awkward for two reasons NEITHER were because of Oliver’s supposed “hatred.” I need some of whatever drug these delulu’s are on because it sounds like a real trip.

1) It was one of Lou’s first major network interviews that I know of, unless I missed some for SWAT. Otherwise it’s been smaller platforms since he’s typically been in smaller roles/movies in terms of publicity and network. So you could tell he was nervous and from what he’s said about himself, he seems to be an anxious person (I mean, who isn’t?) so of course he’s going to emit that energy. And I mean, as much as it’s cringey AF, Access Hollywood is very well known.

2) The horrible questions. Of course he’s not going to be able to say where BuckTommy is going because that would be a huge spoiler and the network would not be happy. Also who knows how much they’ve even written of season eight. So he’s stating the obvious. Then honing in one his bodybuilding which hey is great because he clearly takes care of himself and swung it very positive by promoting taking care of oneself for both physical and mental health. So that was great. But the second they mentioned his dad? Yeah it was all over. They could have done their research even with a simple Google search and seen that there’s issues there, let alone Lou technically being a nepo baby. So they intentionally said that knowing that and then instead of focusing on Lou’s accomplishments they focused on his dad. The combination was awful but I do feel like Lou did handle it very well, he was able to come across as very neutral and diplomatic. Sk bravo to him.

And if there needed to be any proof that Oliver doesn’t hate and indeed both likes and respects him, it was how he diverted the conversation. He immediately did the little arm grab (a very conscious decision that no one would do if they disliked someone) to inject some humor, also by making the quip about him not being complimented. Which is know was a joke but it was true that it was awkward for them to gush over Lou and not Oliver who also takes great care of himself. It was pretty objectifying honestly. So Oliver jumping in and doing that shows he both 1) knows Lou well enough to read him and 2) likes Lou enough to make a choice to swoop in and “save” him.

I’m not sure how much ABC could have done, they may have pre-screened some questions but the interview was so short that if they went off script there was no time for damage control. And then again who knows how much they know and him being Lou Ferrigno’s son does draw attention. I do love Lou’s mention of looking like his mother which is both very true and a little nudge at wanting separation from his father, definitely a mama’s boy.

And as beautiful and brave it was for Ryan to say what he did, I agree that he’s the only person they’re making seem like has mental health issues. While they may not be as serious as suicidal thoughts that doesn’t devalue anyone else’s. And while Lou isn’t a main and wouldn’t get as much attention for it, he’s been very open about major insecurity (also bringing us back to his father) and anxiety even leading to self destructive behaviors. And not just them, all the cast have been supportive of both on and off screen mental health topics, including Oliver who has also eluded to anxiety, etc. I think they should be all be valued and weighed the same, but anything Ryan does now will sanctify him just to make Lou look worse because Lou plays the man Buck loves and the delulu’s hate it. So. Unfair.

The pictures were awful and even I was like geez Oliver’s got a serious RBF and obviously Lou looks uncomfortable but automatically jumping on that as hating each other is just … I just don’t know how to say it nicely anymore. But as I and many have said, we cannot gove these toxic people attention no matter how much it infuriates us, we can only show support to the actors and make sure they know the toxicity is only a small percentage. But you’re always going to hear more negativity than positivity because misery loves company and the squeaky wheel gets the grease (#metaphorsfordays).

To end this novel #2: Oliver and Lou clearly get along and have chemistry on and off screen to the point that Oliver came to his aid in a very awkward situation (he could have just let him flounder), all mental health issues matter, and those less than pleasant Oliver and Lou expressions were not directed as each other - they were directed at the slimy hosts.

#911 show #911 abc #lou ferrigno jr #oliver stark #ryan guzman #tommy kinard #evan buckley #eddie diaz #access hollywood #lou is such a mama’s boy and it gives me life

[buddiebeginz]

Buck and Eddie’s kiss(es) better kill it. I absolutely, 100% do not ship Buck/Tommy in the slightest, but that was a good kiss.

No offense nonie and I appreciate the message but that kiss was generic af. I've been watching queer media almost my entire life and I feel like some of you all need to really broaden your horizons if you think that was some earth shattering passionate kiss. I mean it's not all that different from some of the kisses he shared with Taylor.

The best thing about the kiss for me was that it was initiated by Buck. Much as I am not a fan of T*mmy or that ship I am glad to see him moving forward on his bi journey and becoming more comfortable with his sexuality.

Also I'm pretty confident in saying that when Buck and Eddie kiss for the first time it will be the kiss heard round the world considering everyone will be talking about it. Not to mention Ryan and Oliver have off the chart chemistry just standing in a room together, I'm not sure any of us are truly ready for the kind of kisses we're gonna get when they finally go there with Buddie. 🔥🔥🔥

#ask #anon #buddie #911! #911 7x06

[chaosqueery]

I understand the value of showing masc identifying characters having strong emotionally intimate friendships. I really do. But I do get frustrated when people say that they can’t ever turn romantic because of it.

if Buck and Eddie were to get together, it wouldn’t just erase the years a friendship they had before. They had an incredibly close and beautiful relationship, and instead of putting a wall up or doing the stupid “no homo” bit, they leaned into it without question. Even if that relationship changes now, that all still happened and still is just as valuable. Anything that Oliver or Ryan has said about how important it is to hav this relationship between these two characters is still TRUE.

To be honest, we have more examples of intimate masc friendships than we do of two men coming out later in a series/life. If we do it’s usually only one of the guys in the friendship that comes out and, if there is crush there, usually goes unrequited. Because in a lot of people’s minds one person coming out is enough. Those feelings can’t be reciprocated if the story is going to be “realistic”.

And it’s funny that people keep saying sexuality is a spectrum , but when they turn it around on a character like, let’s say Eddie since it looks like Buck’s the one to come out first, it’s “not him though, he’s 100% straight”. If we really all saw sexuality as a spectrum, Eddie figuring out he wasn’t as heterosexual as he thought wouldn’t be considered unrealistic or repetitive. Really, it’s toxic masculinity that keeps men from looking inward and acknowledging that part of them that’s queer. Isn’t that what this whole thing regarding having intimate male friendships all about? Fighting toxic masculinity?

I’m not saying all healthy friendships always have to turn romantic. Far from it. There have been plenty of mm or ff friendships that I don’t ship (not gonna mention here because one in particular is pretty popular and I don’t want to get hate for it on this post when it’s not what it’s about. You can send an ask if curious). It’s just that I fully believe when it comes to Buddie, that if one of them was female, they would be married by now. We’d still get some “why can’t two people just be friends?” Arguments, but 9-1-1 would have cashed in on that chemistry and the fact that they have already set up a little family for them with Chris.

#Buddie #911 on abc #thinky thoughts #buck buckley #eddie diaz #evan buckley #edmundo diaz #911 spoilers #toxic masculinity

[texasbama]

Oliver can’t get through an interview without mentioning

1) that he see’s what Buddie fans see

2) there is a chemistry between him and Ryan

3) they both watch fan edits and send them to each other

Sir. SIR.

#SIR WE KNOW LMFAOO #911 #buddie

[wildlife4life]

No but like a friend just told me you know Buck is just Tommy’s getaway car cause he couldn’t get with Eddie so he goes for the best friend 😔 I’m like OMG no but like I feel like Tommy has my chemistry with Eddie because it was supposed to be Eddie x Tommy and they changed because they didn’t want another off screen break up and I feel like maybe they did the chemistry test and Lou didn’t do it with Oliver cause idk Tommy I want to like him but idk if is the script or the acting that is not helping also I’m not forgiving him for almost outing Buck to Eddie like you don’t do that at all

AH! Tommy's getaway car, I love it! Great analogy anon!

If I read correctly (I take all interviews with a grain of salt), the change was most like due to not being able to get Natalia's actress back actually, but yes also, they didn't want to do two off screen break ups.

But as previously answered, I agree that the chemistry read was done with Ryan and not Oliver cus the romantic chemistry is very off between the two. (And Oliver makes kissing anyone hot, boy knows how to work those lips and body).

I agree anon. Not happy with the closet joke, but its in the past now and the cracks have already started to reveal themselves with the very limited scenes buck and tommy have together. Not mention everything bucktommy so far is linked back to Eddie in some way....

#ashley answers #911 abc #evan buckley #eddie diaz #buddie #tommy kinard #buck is his second choice #oliver stark #ryan guzman #lou ferrigno jr #lack of romantic chemistry is just obvious to me... #the triangle of it all...

[buckaroo627]

I wanna say something. Coz I never saw anyone post anything about what I'm going to point out from the video.

@8:30 ..."there's still a lot of things that 'Buck and Tommy' have to learn about each other but also 'Oliver and Lou', and so you know we're building those relationships."

So building the chemistry.

I'm telling you, I don't like her character from the very beginning it was introduced from seasons ago. So if that one is gonna stay around Eddie,

then I want Tommy to stay around Buck. Coz I have these opinion that I don't want to see Buck hanging around Eddie when Eddie's dating someone. In a sense, when Buck started dating Natalia, I was like, I understand or I'm assuming why Eddie felt the need to do so when before Buck was single and his Tia Pepa arranged a date for him, he was 'No'.

So this building relationships, the characters and actors, is a good thing, coz I wanna see that chemistry playing there genuinely and not because it was being act out.

We really got lucky with Oliver and Ryan. I guess the tattoos helped too. Like, what are the chances that these two actors just coincidentally have tattoos around opposite arms and, what's the word? Ah, right, compliments each other. As well as their characters are like opposites in a way that fits together that building chemistry is not needed. Because the attraction is already present. And they fit perfectly. Even the way they smile, talk, laugh, stand together, and sleep even, and just staring at the other,

even that far apart,

This is a really really really s........l........o.......w burn. And I've been telling this since before, that it will be a beautiful story between them. The history has been told, now we await their future.

btw

I forgot to mention how Oliver's eyes look so green here. I know it's the surroundings, his shirt, his beanie (i forgot his word as well, had to search using bonnet lol), just the surrounding's color's effect.

But his eyes look so green.

#buck #evanbuckley #eddie #eddiediaz #oliverstark #oliver stark #ryanguzman #ryan guzman #buddie #911onabc #911series #911show #tommy kinard #lou ferrigno jr #slow burn buddie storyline #building relationships #building chemistry #Youtube

[matan4il]

I also think it was written to be like that from the start. The chemistry was off the charts and they had them be rivals for 2 seconds before they became closer than anyone else on the show. I'm sure oliver and ryan were told as much because in their first joint interview they were already throwing hearteyes around and oliver told us, eddie is supposed to "complement" buck and go "on this journey" with him, so.... it was clearer than any official love interest they've had

Hi Nonnie! Thank you for this ask.

I too believe that 911 meant to have us hooked on the Buddie chemistry from the start. As I've mentioned in past ask replies, Eddie was originally meant to be Maddie's Love Interest. Once JLH convinced the producer to make Chimney be Maddie's LI instead, newcomer Eddie needed to be attached, in a meaningful way, to someone on the show. I imagine by then they had noticed that Ryan and Oliver have great chemistry so they went with that. The joint interviews at the start of s2 reflected that. I'm also sure that Tim Minear, who has worked as part of the Buffy verse and has seen the kind of following Tara and Willow got, wanted people to entertain the possibility of Buddie going canon. Does that mean he chose for them to be a couple in that moment? Not necessarily, but I believe he thought about that option from the get go and wanted to leave that door open in case one day he chooses to walk through it. That potential was written into Buddie's story from the start, from 201 and their very first meeting.

So yes, I very much agree with you! Thank you again, I hope you're having a great day! xoxox

#ask #anon ask #oliver stark #ryan guzman #buddie #911meta #911 on abc #911 abc #buddie meta #911 meta #911abc #9-1-1 #evan buckley #eddie diaz #911onabc #911 #edmundo diaz #evan buck buckley

[imascar]

I think it would have been fitting to have had the last scene be that of the 118 FireFam, as a whole, with their respective partners and children present. Whether from the writers or producers, 911 has always held true to the idea that the 118 is family. Rather than splitting each into their own 2-5 minute story arc, it would have been more fitting, as the supposed end of the series, to combine the smaller family units (and other pairings) into one giant unit, that of the 118.

Even if Buck were to have brought Natalia and Eddie, Marisol, the finale may not have been so biting if the intention to separate everybody wasn't so glaringly obvious. Time and time again, we're shown that the members of the 118 are there for each other, that they love and support one another, that they stick together because they are family. I think they could have replaced that rooftop scene and every scene thereafter with one giant gathering at Athena and Bobby's.

I've seen a few posts that mention this finale coming across as rushed or that some ideas had to be quickly reworked, and I agree. Some elements seemed as if they were almost thrown together. It reminds me of the ending of GoT. Events happened, and ppl were like, woah, what the heck, where'd that come from.

The morning rush with Hen and Karen? Were we supposed to take away an impending adoption from that? If so, I missed it. Buck's reaction to Eddie being in danger? I thought I inadvertently changed the channel. Don't get me wrong, I did not expect a declaration of love right then and there, but for two guys who are even just best friends... that was emotionally very dry, and Buck is often seen as the bleeding heart of the show. For Bobby not to have any repercussions from his fall? The 800-year time jump for everyone to be fully healed? And how the heck did Buck pull Eddie out from the van? Was there not a refrigerator on his back? And with just one hand? I thought I entered the Marvel galaxy for a second.

This episode seemed to be lacking a lot... heart, sense... continuity. That ending was really jumbled, and I think it could have been so much better by just uniting them as one giant family.

As for Buddie, I'm kinda glad they didn't rush Buck and Eddie into a 5-minute coupling. I think they deserve better. Also, there really is no denying the chemistry that Ryan and Oliver have and, by extension, their characters. Having them start new relationships just to end the show? Yeah, I get the theory, but Eddie and Buck have had years to build on their dynamic. The foundation they have can't be undone or erased that quickly.

I was not surprised by Eddie and Marisol because we've seen Eddie searching for that magic. He just doesn't see it as being in front of him just yet. Natalia? My friend clocked that, so I expected her, as well. I expected Buck to be all in because that's who he is. He needs to realize that he's all in, in the wrong place.

And that's the good thing going into season 7.

#911 spoilers #911 fox #118 firefam #6x18 #911 season 6 #series finale #buddie #buck and eddie #eddie diaz #evan buckley #this could have been more #finale felt rushed #the 118 is a family #soon to be #911 abc

[lemotmo]

I don’t know what to think regarding buddie. Like one hand we’ve got Tim saying he stopped writing them because he didn’t want to queerbait but now is writing them again because he realized it was harmful to the show to not do so because they are so natural with each other, coupled with Ryan and Oliver having said they want buddie if it happens to be done naturally on one hand and then on the other hand you have Kenny talking about Lou and how great he is and what positive energy he adds to the cast and set and how he can’t wait to see the Buck and Tommy relationship continue on and keep growing.

It’s like what direction are we supposed to be preparing ourselves for them to be going. One second it seems like buddie and then the next it’s right back to feeling like the delusional shipper people had made buddie fans feel like for years now.

Hello Nonny! How are you today? Hope you're having a splendid day.

First order of the day: You are not delusional! We are not delusional! Say it with me! We aren't! It has been confirmed by Oliver and Tim. Buddie was in the works at a certain point in time, but Fox stepped in and prevented it. So no, no delusional people here. We're valid in our convictions.

As for your ask. Well, I don't work for the show, so I don't have any insider information. But I do have common sense, so let's break everything down in smaller parts.

Tim not writing for Buddie anymore out of fear of queerbaiting is something from earlier seasons when Fox was in charge. It's obvious he has changed his mind about it with ABC in charge, seeing as how every single episode has some great and meaningful Buddie scenes. Not just that, there was also a great Buddie and Christopher scene, once again cementing the Buckley-Diaz family as a unit. It's true what he says, they have this natural unforced chemistry.

I didn't know that Kenny said those things about Lou, but I get it. For Kenny Lou is a great co-worker. He has worked with him before in previous seasons and he obviously likes the guy, which... you know, valid. That being said though, Kenny doesn't know where the showrunners are taking all the storylines. Tommy is involved in Buck's storyline and so far only Buck's storyline. (Well, and Eddie's as well I suppose, since Eddie is almost always there when bucktommy are together, which... choices!) Sure, Tommy was at the wedding, but that was only a very brief scene. Also, whether we like it or not, Buck is currently involved with Tommy. So of course Kenny is going to talk about them. What is he going to say? 'Oh hey guys, LOL don't get too attached to Tommy, he won't stick around LOL!' He might have some idea about the oncoming Buddie train, but he can't just talk about that.

Let's take in account all the things we have so far: Buckley-Diaz family in full force, Oliver and Ryan can't shut up about Buddie, Oliver hardly ever mentions bucktommy and when he does it's always in the same way -> Tommy as a guide, gay Yoda to help Buck out. That doesn't sound very romantic to me. Next, Tim likes writing for Buddie (confirmed), magazines are all over Buddie and bucktommy is hardly ever mentioned. The last episode they juxtaposed Tommy and Eddie and showed Eddie consistently by Buck's side, willing to step into his world. Tommy didn't. Lou himself revealed that he isn't allowed to use 'Buck' to address Buck, but he has to use Evan. Evan is a name that Buck heavily associates with his parents and his upbringing. I'm sure there is more, but I can't think of it right now.

The difference in chemistry. I myself don't see it at all, but a lot of people seem to like the bucktommy chemistry in their kisses. But outside of those kisses there is a lot of wooden interactions that don't ring true. I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but if you place those interactions next to Buck and Eddie's scenes the difference in chemistry is palpable. Buddie oozes natural chemistry. Something bucktommy lack. Again, I really think this might be part of the narrative, to show the eventual incompatibility of both characters.

The list just goes on and on. So, I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to bury the battle axe quite yet. To be honest, I'll probably never bury it. As long as Eddie and Buck are on my TV-screen, I'll ship them, because they are literally made for each other. 6 years of history, friendship, family, hope and love. That is not something to waste and the show knows it all too well.

So yeah Nonny, I said it before and I'll say it again:

I'm securely riding the Buddie train, destination endgame. I won't be satisfied with anything less.

#nonnies galore #buddie #not tagging other ships for obvious reasons #these are only my observations #ship and let ship is still my motto

[outrunningthedark]

It’s funny you mention one of the unknown factors being how is Ryan going to act this season in regards to his female LI, with him being free of C and all that drama. It’s a very valid point and I’m curious to see myself if and how that affects anything, but I say it’s funny because I’m sure there are people that are going to go down fighting that the fact the first real bts he shared for the new season, and just in general at all for the first time in forever, was that insta story with Oliver and Aisha in the makeup/hair chairs and Oliver being the “main” focus of it, are answer enough of where he stands.

I’m being 100% serious when I say this new relationship is the ultimate test of both the show’s and Ryan’s feelings on Eddie’s current arc.

Sure, it was easy to think of Eddie as a repressed gay man when there was no intimacy on screen between he and Ana, but the fact of the matter is that he had a toddler and newborn at home at a time when the studios were doing everything they could to prevent the spread of COVID (to avoid shutting down).

Eddie got to be single for the rest of season five. He formed friendships with Linda and May and never really knew Lucy.

People have a differing opinion than me (maybe we define chemistry differently), but I see season six as an extension of season five.

“Eddie and Marisol had no connection.” Her brother almost died. Not the time. (But also…let’s not forget Eddie showing up at her door - with Buck and a group of friends - and how random it seemed.)

Felisa? I would say they had a foundation for friendship, not romance.

Vanessa? It was easy because neither one was supposed to be interested. Again, more of a friendship than physical attraction.

Season seven, though? Feels make-or-break, to me.

If Eddie isn’t supposed to be queer in canon, if Ryan isn’t expecting that to be confirmed, a move to a new network means establishing Eddie as the Straight One (&with a gf at the moment).

Do we see anything different? More…effort? More affection? Is Ryan at ease because his kids are older (and his opinions have changed…) and the ex won’t be inserting herself into his work life?

It’s easy to say “Omfg we’re about to get Ana 2.0” when you have your own ideas of who Eddie should be with.

But what if the people making the decisions don’t agree?

#anonymous #tina speaks #tv: 911 #tv: 9-1-1 #eddie diaz

[buddieisgoingcanon2024]

I recognize they were going to mention Marisol, but I can still be very disappointed about it and that ABC still hasn’t clued in that they would be better off keeping her return off the radar.

But loving the rest so much!!

Me too. I’m loving Oliver and Ryan’s banter and chemistry even off the show. Just behind the scenes stuff. They’re so special to me, you have no idea.

#buddie

[buddiebeginz]

are you gonna watch it, I don't have the stomach to watch it honestly.

I'll probably check out the interview just to see what they talk about. I'm not happy it's happening and at this point I'm not a fan of Lou (and it's not about B/T it's about how he's acted with his ridiculous cameos) so I really don't care what he has to say. But no matter what happens I'm not worried.

Ryan has talked up Eddie's relationship with Marisol in the beginning of this season. There's been times in the past when Oliver talked up Buck's relationship with Taylor and then Natalia. Even if they make it seem like B/T is this great relationship it doesn't mean they're getting married in season 8. We also need to take everything all of the actors and even Tim say with a grain of salt. What matters most is what we actually see on screen.

Show runners, writers, actors can all have one idea for a show in their head but that doesn't mean that's what ends up as the final product shown to audience. What we've been seeing for B/T is a couple who has little chemistry and little substance. They've barely even talked much on screen and remember T*mmy hasn't even been seen or even mentioned since 7x06.

And just because the story is at one place or the actors tell us things are going in one direction it doesn't mean that they aren't trying to keep things underwraps of that the story won't change course. Up until 7x04 Buck was straight in canon and then everything changed. At this point Buddie haven't officially shown romantic feelings towards one another but that can and likely will change in season 8 no matter what Oliver and Lou talk about in the one interview they've done all season. Which btw any other show would have had a pairing like them front and center to capitalize on the attention the show has been getting for Buck's coming out storyline but nope no interviews together and Oliver barely even mentions B/T or Lou. The focus keeps coming back to Buddie.

#buddie #911 buddie #911! #ask #anon #os inter

[marrissacooper]

I have just catching up on your blog, and as a fellow Marissa stan, wanted to say THANK YOU! Love your thoughts on the show. One thing that stood out to me was the q's about BM tension. By 314ish (there's the butt slap at the start of 310, the 'getting busy' ad-lib in 314). I think they were both done with the storyline tho. M has mentioned how toxic the set became and we see her isolated from the main cast shortly after and a lot of jokes made about mental health. (1/4)

It's hard I’m sure for those to not be taken personally. My hot take is that a lot of things on the show were aimed personally too, the RM fight in 2.09 Mindy has mentioned on the podcast if something happened between BM because it seemed real. And I think Mischa’s reaction in that scene is real too (that dialogue could have been aimed at Marissa and Mischa tbh), the fact that Mindy would think that B might react like that to M says a lot. All those mental health 'jokes' too (2/4).

Which isn’t surprising, because despite their chemistry on screen by 3.25, there seems to have been a total breakdown between them by mid-S3 that they never recovered from (I think they have had many, starting in S1 with their own personal romantic tension, lol). He is the only cast member to have not come out in her support once she was fired (he just called her 'a cast member'!) I think the Model Home scene in the finale is a genuine scene by Mischa – particularly the apology line. (3/4) 

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Sorry for taking so long to reply! I hope you'll still see this... First of all thank you for taking the time to go through my blog 😊 I think you're right about the BM tension. Their chemistry definitely changed in the middle of s3, might be the bad writing, might be real life issues. I think they managed to switch it back on at the end of s3 for old times' sake. I'm not sure but they probably knew Mischa was leaving by then? So it might have been easier to forget about all the BTS drama and only remember the good times (the same thing that was happening on screen if you think about it.)

They definitely wrote personal things into the show, I think there's an Adam interview in the s1 dvd bonus where he says Josh did that a lot. The fight in 2x09 is already hard enough to watch as fiction, but if they were also saying these things to Mischa that's more than messed up. She was literally a teenager in a grown up world, no matter how "bad" her behavior was on set, this was not the way to address the issue. There's definitely something very real in the scene when Ryan says "You want to make a mess of your own life, FINE" and Marissa flinches. It could be good acting and directing, but you never know. That scene was brushed off too quickly and Ryan's apology was unsatisfying to say the least.

Honestly if BM really dated, it doesn't really paint Ben in a good light. That age gap was not insignificant.I can understand being mad at someone you care about because you think they're throwing away their life, but he was an adult man and Mischa was an 18 yo it girl in 2000s Hollywood. I love the model home scene (if you've been through my blog you know lol) and I LOVE Mischa's delivery of the apology. She put so much sincerity in it. But the implication that she was responsible "for all the craziness" is disappointing, especially when they mention Oliver right after like it's some private joke instead of a boy who held her at gunpoint. I do very much love this scene though, and if it was genuine on Mischa' part that's very sweet.

#ask #sorry this is very long #that's how annoying i am when i start talking about marissa #i'll answer the last part in a different post! #the oc

[bbbuckaroo]

I’m new to this fandom since the buck bi storyline. And I didn’t realize how toxic this fandom is? Or did it just begin because of buck and tommy? I started watching beginning and can tell the chemistry between buck and Eddie but I really don’t see them as an end game? First of all Eddie is clearly straight and I feel like they got together they would break up for sure.

However, my issue is with Oliver and Ryan. I feel like they are playing into the Eddie more since they are on a new network and the buck storyline. It makes me said that Oliver hasn’t promoted Tommy on his social ( other than speaking about it in interviews) but he constantly posts about Eddie. Now with the fighting between the shippers. Saying Oliver and Ryan don’t like Lou in real life and saying Lou is a horrible person. If Oliver says he is grateful to be part of this story why not promote the man who helped him realize he is bi? It’s giving two face to me. However, I don’t want I’m not hating on them but it just gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

What are you feelings on the fighting between ships? And do you think Lou will be back next season?

It had never been toxic to this extent, I started in about season three. There has always been animosity and hate towards any of Buck or Eddie’s love interests (also extended to the actresses themselves) because they are “in the way” of Buddie happening. Buck and Eddie certainly do have chemistry which is what makes them such good friends, partners at work, and part of the 118 family. But aside from some playful comments there has never been any blatant signs of a romantic development between them. Again there are plenty of people who would tell you otherwise but I’m speaking to facts and exactly what we are seeing ON THE SCREEN. And yes, Eddie has thus far been portrayed as very straight, Buck has always had small indicators that he may be a bit more flexible than he realized and Oliver said that himself. I’ve been bi-Buck since day one.

I agree that it definitely seems like Oliver is indifferent to Buck and Tommy’s developing relationship but Oliver has never promoted any of his relationships. He did recently do a few podcasts where he mentioned Tommy and seemed very optimistic about their relationship but I think they got pushed to the back by all the continuing Buddie hysteria. I can try and dig them up. And then the gold we got today with Access Hollywood where they both proved that no, they do not hate each other and yes, Buck is supportive of the relationship. And as much as we and other actors may be aware Buddie is barely a speck on the horizon (if one at all) they honestly have to stay neutral. It’s show business and they don’t want to do anything to affect viewership. Even if it is negative attention. That would really be almost a conflict of interest for them. Fans could say Ravi and Karen were having an affair and they honestly couldn’t say anything otherwise. If anyone does, it’s Tim or any other higher ups.

I see Oliver promoting Eddie because Eddie ISN’T a love interest. He’s Buck’s best friend and such a pivotal part of his character and also a major character vs. supportive. So by him promoting it, and promoting it as a platonic relationship, he’s basically saying it’s not a romance. I hope that makes sense. Also Oliver’s been burned (no pun intended) in the past and it’s gone as far as Oliver deleting all his posts and deactivating his accounts. So he’s also protecting himself and the other actors who get dragged into it.

I’m not going to say I’m entirely neutral and unprejudiced but BuckTommy’s (BT’s) didn’t start this toxicity. We started celebrating and loving the CANON relationship and development of Buck’s character. It’s been received so well, despite the hate that most people see, and people are so excited about this for Buck. When we embraced it and were happy for Buck, the delulu’s lost their minds because here we have a canon Buck relationship that 1. Doesn’t involve Eddie and 2. Makes Buck seemingly the happiest he’s been thus far. Then every time we stayed in our lane posting about it, the hate came. Now it’s like we feel we have to push back because besides involving us, they’re involving the actors and show-runners who work their asses off for this show. So of course we’re going to go to bat for them because they’re the reason we’re here! I know that we need to not pay attention to it and feed the fire but honestly with some of the nasty stuff they’re saying, it’s hard not to defend ourselves. But again, that is my opinion as a BT shipper.

And yes, I definitely think Lou will be back and that’s not what I believe to be wishful thinking. It’s clear Tommy’s reappearance was a two episode experiment, the cast and Tim hinted heavily at that, but with the reception they brought him back and viewership has only gone up and Buck’s story, Tommy or not, has resonated with so many people. To give this to Buck, a hopeful and healthy relationship, and then take it away would only perpetuate Buck’s hamster wheel of love. This man was very misguided but has always loved love and being love. The man lives for his 118 family and adores children, it’s clear he wants a stable, healthy relationship and showing that on the show is such beautiful and full circle development. It brings hope that no matter how lost someone is, if they persevere and work hard, they can be found and be happy. I think a lot of people need to see that in their lives today. And I see that in Tommy and I think everyone else does, including Tim and the cast, who have all been so positive about it. Their opinions are what matters most and ours are mere talk aside from the positivity and encouragement we can bring from commenting on social media and watching the show.

It’s the school yard bully: if you pay attention to them they thrive off of it and only get crueler. But if you ignore them, if you don’t feed their insecurities, eventually they’ll go away and move on elsewhere. So that’s all we need to do, as hard as it may be. Welcome to the fandom, ENJOY yourself, ignore the bullshit, and thank you for reading my novel. Glory day 😳