just... something I've noticed. (cw: this is about i/p and leftist activism)
so many stories are like:
villain: "there's a problem in this world that needs to be fixed, an injustice in the systems that control our life, so I shall fix it with VIOLENCE AND MURDER AND MORE VIOLENCE!"
hero: "halt, you fiend! I, a Good American Citizen™, shall stop you. scease this treachery at once!"
*proceeds to beat them up and do nothing about the issue that caused this, Happy Ending uwu everything is solved*
the purpose of these stories were propaganda, obviously, to associate fighting for justice with violence and villainy, and heroism with restoring the status quo and never questioning it.
people called bullshit, but instead of going "the source of the issue wasn't the villain, it was the system they were in. you can't just get rid of them and go about your day, you have to remove the problem from its source as well", they went "the source of the issue isn't the villain, it was the system they were in. the villain was actually completely justified in their response because of the end goal! sure their actions are bad, but the system is worse!" while completely ignoring how in most of these stories, the villains were okay with actual mass murder.
and here we are, in a post Oct. 7th world, where people look a massacre of Jews, and say the exact same thing. justifying undescribable acts of violence by saying "well these noble savages Palestinians had endured 75 years of genocide (wrong) apartheid (wrong) and ethnic cleansing (also wrong)! their response is understandable! I don't condone their violence, but something had to be done." and you get people simping for actual extremist terrorist organisations, marching around while parroting calls for genocide, and repeating words to make them sound educated on a conflict they only know about from social media posts.
yes, the systems are unfair and cruel and social justice needs to be achieved. but you can't turn a blind eye or actively condone horrific acts that are done in the name of that cause. speaking against it won't make you the "movie protagonist™", you HAVE to speak up against it if you want to work towards a peaceful future.
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What are your major views concerning the Israel Palestine war?
A good question.
I am assuming that you refer to Israel's current military retaliation in Gaza, which I will answer. However, I will also broaden your question to include the state of the conflict.
First of all, Israel's military retaliation in Gaza was entirely provoked by the Hamas terrorist organisation.
Despite international media scrutinising Israel's actions, nobody with a fair mind should downplay the scale of the crime that Hamas committed. The Jews have never suffered such an act of genocidal terrorism since the Holocaust, and some Israeli witnesses and survivors have testified that the some of crimes Hamas committed exceed those committed by Islamic State and the Nazis.
This is important to remember, as the actions of Israel and Hamas are not equal, no matter what the media, activists and the mob of empty-headed, allegedly "progressive" mouthpieces online (including on Tumblr) claim. Israel has acted in self-defence and to punish a terrorist organisation; Hamas acted to massacre the Jewish population.
Two important points are being missed by the international media and other groups:
1- Hamas' act of terror on October 7 was not motivated by politics. The claims made by student organisations at Harvard University and Columbia and co., asserting that the terrorist attack was motivated by the decades-long conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, are a blatant attempt to rationalise the pure evil that Hamas committed. This despite the scale of Hamas' crimes: beheading babies, burning children alive. The sheer sadistic evil of these crimes already demonstrates that the motivation wasn't political: it was pure, Nazi Jew-hatred.
Since 2006, Hamas has stated clearly that it aims for the extermination of Jews worldwide. This charter has been available for public viewing for years, yet people who rationalise the evil of Hamas have either never heard of it because they don't speak Arabic (and can't be bothered to do any research), or they know of Hamas' genocidal aims against the Jews and are choosing to ignore this because they believe the Jews are responsible for attracting such hatred. I'll never forget the liberal commentator, Kyle Kulinski, rationalising Hamas' antisemitism by claiming that it's because 'they're pissed off'.
Imagine someone claiming that the KKK's hatred of black people was because they were 'pissed off'.
2- The October 7 attack was just the beginning of a series of murderous attacks on Jews worldwide. This fact utterly destroys the claims of student organisations and other rationalisers of evil, who insist that if the Israelis merely acceded to demands made by the Palestinians, then no such terrorist attacks would have occurred.
It's difficult to categorise just how pathetic, cowardly, and disgraceful such assertions are, yet they are usually unchallenged. Prior to October 7, there were many Zionists who said similar things (though they did not rationalise the terrorist attacks): yield to the Palestinians and the conflict will end.
This is a lie.
We have already established that Hamas has a target on the head of every Jew on this planet. And intelligence agencies in European countries have already uncovered plots by Hamas agents in Denmark and the Netherlands, planning murderous attacks on Jews and synagogues.
And to be honest, Hamas doesn't even need such agents. Shortly after their heinous crime, Hamas terrorists called on Muslims to start a day of rage in their defence, a request that thousands, if not millions, of Muslims agreed to do. Since the massacre, people on the pro-Palestinian side, many of them Muslim and Arabic, have been seen celebrating the massacre and calling for the murder of Jews. The infamous video taken in Sydney, in which a crowd calls for the Jews to be gassed, is just one example of such hatred.
Given the scale of Hamas' hatred of Jews and the active danger that Hamas poses to Jews across the world, you can now begin to see why Israel has retaliated in this way.
This is not a decision that Israel took for the pleasure of seeking revenge. For years, Israeli politicians such as Binyamin Netanyahu and much of the elites in Israel's military and intelligence thought that a combination of firefighting and appeasement of Hamas would deal with the security threat to Israel in Gaza. Every time Hamas fired thousands of rockets into Israel, the Israeli military would wait until the barrage became intolerable, then seek to eliminate Hamas terrorists and destroy buildings where they stored weaponry-- a claim that Israel has proven over and over again.
October 7 has proven that those measures were utterly misguided, to say the very least. When the dust has settled, many Israeli politicians and military top brass will have to explain how security could have failed so dramatically on October 7, leading to Hamas terrorists slaughtering IDF soldiers in their beds.
Israel cannot exist with Hamas on its border. I don't know whether the international media is underlining the fact that Hamas is not the only Palestinian terrorist organisation operating in Gaza; Islamic Jihad, known as Palestinian Islamic Jihad, is there as well. This terrorist organisation undoubtedly assisted with the October 7 massacre.
Hamas also operates in the West Bank, and since October 7, it has become even more popular with Palestinians there.
Such information isn't being acknowledged in the international media, or by the cottage industry of so-called activists, either. This undermines the popular claim that Hamas is entirely separate from the Palestinian civilian population.
We know that:
1- Palestinian civilians with work permits from Gaza collected information on Israeli families and passed it to Hamas before October 7
2- Palestinian civilians are seen wildly celebrating the attack, including when the near-naked body of Shani Louk was paraded in Gaza and Palestinian men spat on her; when an Israeli boy was kidnapped and is pictured being pushed around and bullied by Palestinian boys; when an Israeli woman who was violently raped (her trousers are drenched in blood) was dragged out of a car and the Palestinian crowd cheered; when an Israeli mother and her child were pushed and shoved by Palestinian terrorists, again with a crowd cheering
3- We know that some Palestinian civilians entered Israel on October 7 and assisted with the massacres and probably with other war crimes as well
4- Hamas uses Palestinian civilians as human shields, and as assistants to spy on IDF positions and signal to Hamas to release booby traps. The death toll of IDF soldiers, largely ignored by the international media, is often because of them entering booby-trapped buildings
This information is crucial, yet being largely ignored. Many don't even know these facts. But this information helps demonstrate why Israel is targeting buildings in Gaza with unprecedented force. These buildings are often booby-trapped by Hamas terrorists, and civilian collaborators with terrorists are using the rooftops as a vantage point to help Hamas murder IDF soldiers.
In addition to this, Israel has to contend with Hamas' underground tunnel network, which it uses for stockpiling weaponry and now, for keeping hostages.
Israel is in the extremely difficult position of needing to destroy Hamas bases above and below ground and kill Hamas terrorists and collaborators, while also wanting to save the innocent Israelis kidnapped by this evil organisation. It's tragically unsurprising, therefore, that Israel's retaliation campaign puts the Israeli hostages in serious and even mortal danger (although Hamas terrorists already subjected such hostages to unspeakable crimes against humanity).
Again, these are all crucial facts and pieces of context all missing from the wild-eyed, pseudo-moralistic deluge of hatred against Israel that features so prominently among the uneducated (including and especially university students) and the bigoted.
So far, we can see that Hamas is motivated by hatred of Jews, not dissatisfaction with the allocation of land. A further piece of proof is that Hamas came to power with a mandate to murder Jews worldwide, despite the fact that Israel completely withdrew from Gaza in 2005, believing that this would please the Arabs and lead to peace. Not many people realise that Jews have lived in Gaza for centuries (there were synagogues in Gaza, if you can picture it), and they are now the only ethnic group forbidden from entering. This is real ethnic cleansing, but that doesn't produce any outrage from the so-called "moral majority" worldwide.
The obvious, Nazi ideology that fuels Hamas is present in Palestinians who support Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the PFLP, and the original terrorist organisation, the PLO. For years, right under the nose of the feckless United Nations, the Palestinians have been thoroughly indoctrinated into Nazi-style Jew-hatred. In Gaza, the UNRWA has distributed books calling for the murder of Jews. Such books are handed to Palestinian children. The UN has done nothing to cut off UNRWA's funding as a punishment. The European Union has condemned UNRWA for these materials, but hasn't done much more beyond that.
Unsurprisingly, members of UNRWA were caught celebrating Hamas Nazi attack on the Jews. (So were Arabic journalists for the BBC's Arabic-language news service. You can see that this Nazi fervour for murdering Jews is an enormous problem across the Arab and Muslim world, not just in Palestinian-controlled territories.)
This brings us to a central issue. If the Palestinians were really just concerned about the division of land, then why is there a nuclear cloud of Jew-hatred hanging over the West Bank and Gaza? Why are the only Palestinian leaders terrorists, rather than real leaders? (Abbas is the chairman of the PLO, a terrorist organisation, and was possibly involved in the 1972 Münich massacre.) Why does the savage murder of Jews produce celebration in Palestinian territories, if, as Western pro-Palestinian activists claim, their cause supports human rights? Why does the Arab and Muslim world, currently silent about anti-Muslim atrocities in China, turn out in rage against Israel, rather than against Hamas' Nazi terrorism?
These are questions that you won't hear many people asking. But they need to be asked, because the Palestinians could have had their state decades ago, if they wanted it. The popular claim that Israel is obstructing this is a pure lie.
Here are some facts you simply won't hear mentioned:
1)- Most of the original Mandate for Palestine is now modern-day Jordan. The map often shown by pro-Palestinian activists is (deliberately) misleading, as it doesn't show the original size of territory. If it did, people would easily see that the Arabs received the overwhelming majority of it.
2)- Most Jordanians are Palestinian Arabs, a fact clearly resented by the Hashemite rulers, who have in the past driven the PLO out of Jordan, arbitrarily revoked the citizenship of Palestinian Jordanians, and continue to deny Arab descendants of refugees from 1947 to 1949 citizenship. (Something Queen Rania doesn't want to discuss; she's too busy attacking Israel.)
3)- The British Empire heavily restricted Jewish land purchases and later immigration to the remainder of the Mandate, while permitting Arab purchases and immigration
4)- Other Arabic countries were formed by imperial powers based on arbitrary mandatory territories
5)- Some Arab leaders, such as Prince Faisal, recognised that Jewish immigration to Palestine was entirely legitimate and would be beneficial for the Arabs
6)- Many, if not most, Arabs in the early 20th century, considered themselves Syrian, including during the Ottoman Turk Empire
7)- The Ottoman Turk empire had to collapse before the Arabs had a chance at national sovereignty in any part of the later Mandate for Palestine; as it is, they received over 80% of the Mandate; 8)- The Jews were willing to accept a far smaller portion of what is now modern-day Israel back in 1947, but the Arabs refused, with Arab leaders calling for jihad against the Jews.
This is a summary of my main views on this conflict. I am firmly on the side of Israel's right to exist in peace and, like Israel's Charter of 1948, I call on the Arab and Muslim world to abandon its decades-long campaign of genocidal jihad against the Jewish population. A campaign that saw the Arabs align themselves with Adolf Hitler during the Second World War, another fact that the Western pro-Palestinian faction (including on this site) doesn't want to discuss.
There's simply no justification for this conflict. As David Ben Gurion said, the Jews didn't come to dispossess the Arabs, but to live alongside them and cultivate the land together. There is more than enough land there for the Jews and Arabs to live together peacefully. This can still be the case, but it won't come about through blindly forcing a two-state "solution" that ignores Israel's security concerns and doesn't hold the Palestinians responsible for their own share of wrongdoing.
It will come about when the Palestinians reject terrorism and Nazi Jew-hatred, and embrace reasonable dialogue and peace. This is the precondition to any talks about a two-state solution, and this precondition, especially after the crime of October 7, is nonnegotiable.
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