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bennyyrabbit · 1 year
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Logan headcanons because I can
Autistic
Red is an overwhelming color for him, mainly due to his brain associating it with Roman and Roman's often overwhelming personality
Number 2 is why he despises when Thomas wears red.
The red pen he used to use was only due to his brain applying Strict Teacher Rules to his annotations and edits to Roman's scripts, he was extremely glad to find that Roman despised the pen and wanted him to use a different one
He used to be much more apt to outbursts of a more positive kind, such as willingly giving more information than strictly needed because he enjoyed helping the others learn things
This changed due to repeated negative feedback that makes Logan feel as though he did nothing but make the others feel stupid (red pen, again, but slightly worse because it was more EVERYTHING he was doing, than just one thing)
He stopped wearing his onesie, even when alone in his room, due to fear of being summoned and ridiculed for his childish behavior
He is much harder on himself than he is on the others, despite their apparent belief that he is an arrogant cocky dick
He doesn't often pay attention to the lyrics in songs, rather the beat and instrumental, therefore his music taste is extremely wonky, consisting of any kind of instrumental that makes his brain feel happy, including extremely inappropriate songs and/or extremely childish ones, without him even realizing the context of the words (this is actually backed by his playlist)
There is something about the formula of country music that makes it extremely appealing to him and his pattern-seeking brain
This also applies to those thriller movies that follow the classic killer pattern with the survival rules.
Janus and Roman are two of Logan's least favorite sides
Roman is too overwhelming, and Janus is incredibly hard for him to understand due to him talking almost exclusively in lies
Patton is kind of in the middle, if he was to properly rank them. His overly feelingsy thing, and the wishy washy of morals and the confusing mixture of both makes it hard for them to work together, but he prefers Patton to Roman because he is less overwhelming and loud and otherwise overstimulating, and he doesn't have to worry about Patton speaking in lies, which puts him above Janus.
Remus is in second place, simply because Remus is slightly more tolerable than Patton, even though Logan cannot place WHY (it might be how blunt Remus is compared to how Patton likes to sugarcoat tings and/or hide the negative things)
Virgil is his favorite because they can have logical debates that, even when they get out of hand, will not overwhelm and overstimulate him, they have similar sensory issues, and he is simply the calmest of all the other sides
Logan despises his outbursts, regardless of what kind, and he refused to speak to any of the sides for a week after WTIT
Virgil was the first one to break through afterwards
Remus apologized for pushing him so far, but clarified that he wasn't actually sorry for DOING it, and more for how much it clearly affected Logan beyond the automatic reaction he had hoped for
Logan accepted this apology, because it was sincere, and he can understand Remus' point of view
He did get him back, however, by forcing him to sit through an entire 'lesson' on actual class etiquette.
This started a kind of 'battle' between them of putting each other through increasingly annoying things that one enjoyed and the other did not
Virgil caught Remus forcing Logan to wear a particular texture that extremely bothered his sensory stuff, as a part of this 'game' and proceeded to tear Remus a new one about abusing a fun little game that Virgil thought was a bad idea in the first place, and Can't you see that you've gone too far, this isn't funny anymore, he's genuinely distressed, get him out of that before I take YOUR nipples and shove them up YOUR nose.
Remus didn't actually care about the nipple thing, but he did get where Virgil was coming from, and got Logan out of that Horrific Sweater of that Horrific Texture, and apologized by letting Logan force him to wear an Actual Tie tied Properly for an Entire Day
The game has been on hiatus since because Virgil refuses to allow it to continue, despite Logan insisting that it's Quite Fine, Virgil, there is No Need for your Continued Vigilance, however Appreciated it is. (and it is VERY appreciated, Logan does not usually receive this kind of positive attention to make sure he is comfortable and stays that way)
Logan and Remus will sit and watch Those Movies Referenced In Number 11 together, and will each go on rants about how Stupid that Character is for going in That Room, or Up Those Stairs or something equally stereotypical and stupid
This never gets old, and Logan thinks he may do this until he ceases to exist however that may happen
They watched Trick (2019) together, and Logan spent an hour and a half ranting about how Fucking Amazing the movie was and how The End was So Good and Revolutionary and It's Such A Shame this movie Isn't More Popular because it's A Masterpiece
This is the moment Remus realizes he's in love with Logan
Remus says this seconds after realizing it, cutting Logan off mid-rant
Logan gapes at him for a minute, unsure how to respond, before (extremely apologetically) explaining that he does not feel those feelings for Remus, and that he doesn't want their difference in feelings to harm their friendship because Frankly he's Unsure how he would Continue Doing This (existing) without Remus there in some capacity
This makes their friendship extremely strained, and eventually, they stop spending time together.
Remus explains that this is because he can't Keep Doing This because he is constantly Not Saying Things he wants to say to Logan so that Logan doesn't think he's Actively Hitting On Him, and it makes Remus Physically Ill to not say his things out loud
Logan is unable to function properly for a week after this, and he doesn't really understand how he got This Attached to him.
Virgil talks some sense into him, and Logan has to then spend three months examining his feelings (ugh, feelings) for Remus, until he comes to the conclusion that he Is, In Fact, In Love With Remus
His immediate reaction is to go straight to Remus' room and tell him his feelings
Virgil tries to stop him and fails because Logan cannot think of one logical reason that Remus wouldn't at least hear him out, even if Remus' feelings have since disappeared, which Logan knows is something that happens, and is uncontrollable (if those feelings WERE controllable, he would never have them)
The second Logan says the words, "I'm in love with you", Remus kisses him without a seconds thought, because this is something he's wanted to do since Before he realized he was in love with Logan.
Logan's brain cuts out and overheats as if he is a literal computer, and it takes the literal snap of his neck (killing him) to properly reboot him so he can function.
Remus spent almost three hours trying to get Logan back to normal and almost has an anxiety attack thinking he's just caused the most catastrophic thing ever and somehow literally killed Thomas' Logic.
Virgil senses Remus' increasing anxiety, and is the one to suggest the neck snap. He says it as a joke, to lighten the mood to hopefully make Remus feel better, and Remus takes it as a genuine suggestion.
The first thing Logan does once rebooted, is kiss Remus back.
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dnmc-designs · 5 years
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wow, I’m obsessed with my new trash son. 
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Thomas sanders and His Dark Sides
The split side of Logan is Deciet, the split side of Roman is Remy, the previous religious imaginary makes me think we might be getting a look at Pattons dark side soon and it makes me wonder what darkness can morality hold: my guess is selflessness to the point of self destruction or something akin to religious Shame/guilt.
Virgil is interesting because despite him claiming to be part of the Dark sides I can't help but wonder differently. He has no current foil, so it makes me wonder if he isn't in fact a dark side at all but only a light side deeply corrupted by Remus and Deciets influences. They want him to be a dark side but he can just as easily be a benifit to Thomas as a hinderance. Virgil is both caution and paranoia at his best and at his worst. We've seen Thomas crash without his anxiety but we also know that Virgil has accidently convinced Thomas his drink was poisoned. Doesn't that sound like the work of an intrusive deceptive thought? Still let's take this one step further, if Virgil is not the Dark side he and audience think he is, what does that mean for the future?
Logan pointed out in the last video that Remy was born of the unconscious decision to separate his good and bad imagination. It happened when thomas was very young. What happens when somone makes a conscious decision to separate their good and bad anxiety as an adult? Will another side be born from Virgil, instead of anxiety will we see something more extreme: despair, paranoia, apathy?
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hissingvirgil · 4 years
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Worried Trash Goblin
More angst?
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Watching this video again, this line caught my attention. Now this could of course be very disturbing for Thomas when it comes to intrustive thoughts, but I wondered if it could also be the other way round.
What if Remus notices no one is listening to/validating Virgil again and Virgil decides to duck out. The light sides are preoccupied with a particular important event in Thomas' life and therefore pay little mind to it. However, Remus is worried for Virgil. When he carefully shares his fears with the core sides, they brush him off.
Remus then decides to use his power to force the other sides to think about Virgil and listen to his worries. Maybe even with Deceit who uses his powers to shut the others up, so they cannot interrupt Remus either.
Contrary to what Virgil thought, it's actually his dark family that watches over him.
(@sanders-sides-uncorrect-quotes thought you might enjoy this :))
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purplecatghostposts · 5 years
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Double Edged Sword
A Sander Sides One Shot
Characters: Remus, Deceit, Roman (Mentioned)
Relationships: Demus (Originally platonic but can be seen as romantic as well!)
Tags: Hurt/Comfort, Sympathetic Remus, Sympathetic Deceit, Insecurity, Intrustive Thoughts/Usual Remus Stuff, Slight Gore Mention (Because it’s Remus)
Summary: Roman describes Remus as ‘Looking in a funhouse mirror’. Remus describes Roman as ‘The Golden Child’.
Word Count: 1,145
Remus, unlike his twin brother, has much thicker skin and most insults don’t get under his skin like they would for Roman.
However, contrary to popular belief, Remus can get his feelings hurt. These instances are few and far in between, but they happen. Even Remus is not immune to having his ego hurt.
To make matters worse, since the feeling is more foreign to him, Remus doesn’t really know what to do with himself once it happens. He suddenly feels out of place, lost on what he’s supposed to do. He’s used to approaching everything with confidence- creating with no limit and with no hesitation.
Insecurity is a killer to him as much as it is to his brother, maybe even more so. It gets inside of his head and with no built up defense to it, much like a new virus, it attacks him ruthlessly until he’s worn down. Until he doesn’t even feel like his usual self anymore.
Remus lies on the couch, mentally exhausted and his mind reeling. He’s used to having all sorts of ideas running through his head, as twisted as they may be, but this is different. It’s worse than anything he could conjure up. It’s cruel.
Roman is more important than you. The voice whispers. The tone is sickeningly sweet and Remus drowns in it.
His mind does nothing to remedy the situation. For once, his fast moving thoughts are his downfall.
Because it’s true, isn’t it? Remus thinks to himself. Thomas always goes to him for creativity, even know that he knows my existence. He never wants my creativity. He never wants me at all.
Remus doesn’t think anyone has ever asked for his voice. Remus usually just gave it anyway, never thinking about it, but it suddenly hurts that nobody has. Logan, Patton, Virgil... They don’t want him. They want Roman.
Perfect Roman. His ideas are what everyone wants. He works tirelessly to make them, making sure they’re everything that the others will need. His efforts always land him in the spotlight.
And all Remus gets is the ever growing shadow of his brother that covers him and leaves him in the dark.
It’s not like Remus has never tried to appease the others. He’s tried to make ideas like Roman does- he tries to focus. But it’s suffocating. Because even the one time he created something like his brother would, it felt wrong.
It didn’t feel like him anymore.
Remus decided that even if he was going to stay in the shadows, he’d rather be there as himself than a clone of his brother. He decided that he was fine the way he was.
He just wished that everyone else would see him the same way he did.
Roman, without a doubt in his mind, was the golden child. While Remus was shunned for his efforts in creativity, Roman was praised. Roman could do no wrong, while Remus could only screw up. Remus could try all he wanted, but Roman, in the eyes of everyone else, was better in every single way.
How could someone so perfect be twins with someone... Like you? The voice said. Remus’ gut twisted. He tried to block it out, but the voice just came back louder. Face it, Remus. You’ll never be half as good as your brother. You’ll never-
“Remus?”
Remus blinked, focusing again. Deceit was standing over him, frowning. The concern on his face was undeniable.
“I was calling your name from the other room, how did you not hear me?” Remus didn’t answer. He opened his mouth but his throat closed up on him. He didn’t understand why. That never happened. “...Remus? You totally aren’t scaring me right now. You’ve been oddly quiet all day.”
Remus meant to come up with some explanation. “What do you think of Roman?” Was what came out of Remus’ mouth.
That took Deceit by surprise. “Roman?” He paused for a moment to think. “Well, he’s just like the rest of the Lights. Pretentious, prideful, not very interested in what I have to say. Mostly at least. He’s usually more cooperative than the rest.” His eyebrows rose. “Why?”
Remus sat up, still trying to think of something to say. It had been a long time since he was at a loss for what to say. “Just curious.” He meant to come up with an excuse to leave, but as he was going to stand, his unfiltered mouth once again was his downfall. “Do you like him more than me?” Fell out of his mouth before he could stop it.
Both of them froze on the spot. Remus stared at the floor, not meeting Deceit’s gaze. A long silence passed between them before Deceit said, quite dryly, “Why in the hell would I think that?”
“Because everyone else does.” Remus blurted without thinking. He slapped his hand over his mouth but not even a second later, Deceit’s influence forced him to remove it.
Deceit sat down beside him. He examined him closely before carefully saying, “Remus, tell me everything.”
And Remus, being as impulsive as he was, did. He was never one to sugarcoat, so he didn’t. Every single cruel detail was added, and Deceit’s ever growing concern soon turned to something Remus didn’t recognize. An emotion he hadn’t ever seen on Deceit.
Once he finished, Deceit sat there, his eyes closed as he was deep in thought. Then, they opened and he clenched his fist.
“Remus, listen to me very carefully,” Deceit’s voice was more urgent than Remus had ever heard it. “Never question whether or not you matter as much as Roman. Because you do. I swear to you that I’m telling the truth.”
“But nobody ever wants my input!”
“I do.” Deceit cut in. His eyes were deadly serious. “Honestly Roman’s ideas are too whimsical. Yours are more realistic. The cold hard truth. No room for fantasy.”
“I thought you liked fantasy.”
“Sometimes.” Deceit admitted. “But I mean what I said. You’re much better than Roman. He’s never liked me much but you? You accepted who I was without a second thought.” Deceit smiled softly.
Remus found himself grinning. “Who am I to judge? I regularly think about what it would be like to eat another human! What’s a few lies to that?”
A chuckle escaped Deceit. “Raw or cooked?”
“Raw of course! Cooking it would just ruin the true experience of it!”
“The true experience.” Deceit echoed, more laughter following. He wrapped an arm around Remus, seemingly content. “Every conversation is an adventure with you. How could Roman compare to that? Never change.”
Remus’ whole face brightened. His mind started up again and soon enough, he was spitting out more ideas without a second thought.
Even if Insecurity could hit him hard, luckily, Remus had Deceit on his side.
And that was all the praise he needed.
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js-mindscape · 5 years
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After the new Sander Sides video I can't seem to sleep.... it's like an intrustive thought.
Remus: Teehee
FUCK YOU
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bennyyrabbit · 1 year
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I wish I could draw. I would draw Logan sitting on Remus' shoulders because he's actually the shortest actually, and he can't see at a concert or smthing like that.
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bennyyrabbit · 1 year
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bennyyrabbit · 1 year
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Drop your favorite intrulogical dynamics in the tags of ur reblogs, i'm doing a couple more polls and showdowns cuz i have NEVER BEEN MORE CURIOUS
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