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celebrimborium · 2 years

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fetch your feathery shirts. let’s start walking. – durin... – don’t thank me yet! thank me after we find a way to convince my father. now can we please get moving?

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greeneyed-thestral · 11 months

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#elrond #elrond rop #durin #durin iv #rings of power #the rings of power #partings #rings of power 1x05 #the rings of power 1x05 #lotr #trop #rop #lotrop #lotrop 1x05

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ringsofpowersource · 1 year

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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power / S1 / 2 Sep. 2022 - 14 Oct. 2022 Colors & Scenery Episode 5 - Partings

#the rings of power #rings of power #ours #1x05 #trop #rop #durin #halbrand #isildur #the stranger #nori brandyfoot #poppy proudfellow #tropedit #ropedit #tolkiensource #ringsofpowerdaily #my gifs #a subterranean gif

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beyonddarkness · 1 year

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Sauron Unchained

Remember when Sauron mentioned "THAT first sunrise," on the raft in the Vision? (Not THE first sunrise. The sun already existed. He's talking about THAT first sunrise, after Morgoth was defeated.)

"When Morgoth was defeated, it was as if a great, clenched fist had released its grasp from my neck. And in the stillness of that first sunrise, at last! I felt the light of The One again. And I knew, if ever I was to be forgiven, then I had to heal everything that I had helped ruin" (1x08).

That sunrise was a pretty big deal.

Let's review this moment Sauron describes from The Silmarillion.

(Of the Voyage of Eärendil and the War of Wrath.)

Before the rising of the sun Eärendil slew Ancalagon the Black, the mightiest of the dragon-host, and cast him from the sky; and he fell upon the towers of Thangorodrim, and they were broken in his ruin. Then the sun rose, and the host of the Valar prevailed, and well-nigh all the dragons were destroyed; and all the pits of Morgoth were broken and unroofed, and the might of the Valar descended into the deeps of the earth. [...]

Then Morgoth was bound.

[...] Thus an end was made of the power of Angband in the North, and the evil realm was brought to naught; and out of the deep prisons a multitude of slaves came forth beyond all hope into the light of day, and they looked upon a world that was changed.

Those slaves who emerged were not the servants of Morgoth (like Orcs, Balrogs, etc.), but rather Elves, the likes of Gwindor, who were captured, imprisoned and enslaved, sent deep into the mines to dig.

But Sauron described his experience from their perspective.

Sooo... why?

"When Morgoth was defeated, it was as if a great, clenched fist had released its grasp from my neck. And in the stillness of THAT first sunrise, at last! I felt the light of The One again."

Some complain:

Why did the writers make it seem like Morgoth made Sauron evil, against his will?

-----They didn't.-----

Why did they change Sauron's character from liking Morgoth because of efficiency, to loathing him?

-----They didn't.-----

Why did they make it so Sauron only allied himself with Morgoth in order to survive?

-----They didn't.-----

They didn't change anything. They didn't even have to add anything. None of this came out of the clear blue just for fun. It's not even just for the sake of making the show.

Sauron manipulated Galadriel, but he did so with the TRUTH, making it easier for her to pity him than if he flat-out lied.

["And in the stillness of that first sunrise..."]

(Meanwhile, he talks about forgiveness.)

Galadriel: "No penance could ever erase the evil you have done."

Sauron: "That is not what you believe." [...] After our victory, you said that whatever I'd done before, I could be free of it now. [...] I told you the truth! I told you that I had done evil, and you did not care! Because you knew that our past meant nothing, weighed against our future. :D"

What is this 'trauma' he allegedly experienced? Sure, he was wary of the consequences of crossing Morgoth, but I mean ... he was the guy--Morgoth's #1--his right hand Maia--his most devoted servant. He would never do anything in disobedience or rebellion. Else how would he achieve such a status?

The implication of his tale is not that he was FORCED to Morgoth's allegiance, giving him this general fear that was finally lifted when Morgoth fell.

Something happened.

He made ONE mistake.

(And since Patrick said they're not in the business of pure Easter eggs, there's a REASON they showed this.)

In Sauron's most humiliating moment, being in the jaws of Huan, Lúthien told him "that he should be stripped of his raiment of flesh, and his ghost be sent quaking back to Morgoth; and she said: 'There everlastingly thy naked self shall endure the torment of his scorn, pierced by his eyes, unless thou yield to me the mastery of thy tower.' (The Silmarillion: Of Beren and Lúthien).

Before that, Sauron had it all. Unbeknownst to him at the time, he already had Beren (who had a price put on his head by Morgoth) IN HIS PRISON. But hearing Lúthien sing to Beren in the hour of Finrod's death, he sought great reward for bringing her to Morgoth. When his dying servant told him that Huan was there, he was like, Oh. I got this.

Things went sideways, and he had no choice but to yield to Huan, or face Morgoth's wrath... so he let them go.

As a result, Beren and Lúthien waltzed their way into Angband, stole a Silmaril (eventually) and escaped.

So, um...?

Charlie referenced what Lúthien told Sauron, when speaking about the 'clenched fist' line. His paraphrasing is quite unnerving, given that he knows what backstory we are going to see next season... and I don't know... but I would like to... and it makes me wonder.

"You can go whimpering back to your master and tell him that you've let me in. You've failed. You haven’t defended your kingdom." [...] I read from that this thing that Morgoth is so powerful and so scary, that it would've meant consequences for Sauron. - Charlie Vickers

Where exactly was Sauron after his failure? He dwelt in Taur-nu-Fuin for a while, but a lot of time passed between then and the end of the War. So...WHERE DID HE GO? Wouldn't the most devoted and powerful of all the servants of Morgoth be actively involved in the defense against the host of the Valar?? One might say things were trending upward for him...

...until Finrod, Beren, Lúthien, and Huan came along.

How long would it have taken Morgoth to find out that everything was Sauron's fault? How long would it have taken to hunt Sauron down, as he fled?

Not very long, I reckon.

[...] there must have been an element to their relationship where Morgoth was someone he feared at times, or someone that would punish him when he failed. [...] there must have been some truth in [the clenched fist] line. - Charlie Vickers

No wonder he described the end of the War as if he had been among the slaves who emerged from the deep prisons..."beyond all hope into the light of day"...reminiscing the first sunrise after the overthrow of Thangorodrim, and the great, clenched fist that released its grasp from his neck as a result.

In the Great War, he wasn't just sitting in a tree, or even in a back-up tower, watching from the side-lines.

He failed Morgoth.

Miserably.

And was punished for it.

No wonder he was missing during the War of Wrath.

"What do you know of darkness?"

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quietparanoiac · 2 years

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— How could this be for Númenor? — Have you learned nothing? Soon, we will save the low men of Middle-earth, lift them up, and give them the king they've long awaited. A king who will be forever in our debt. Now, contemplate, if you can, how that might benefit us. Ores, forests, trades, tribute... I wouldn't dare stop that. Not for all the salt in the sea.

The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (2022–), 1x05

#The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power #The Rings of Power #Rings of Power #Pharazôn #Pharazon #Ar-Pharazôn #Trystan Gravelle #fantasy #tropedit #ropedit #lotredit #fantasyedit #Rings of Power 1x05 #my gifs #Akkadian-ish/Babylonian-ish/Achaemenid-ish/whatever series when #honestly Ancient Orient settings deserve much more cinematic attention than they get #and this man is my current weekly reminder about the problem #yes I know his arc in RoP will be the very opposite of what I'd like to see

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autisticlegolas · 1 year

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the scene in RoP 1x05 were durin makes up lies for gil-galad to give him the table because disa has been bugging him for a new table for ages, is so funny. straight up manipulated the high-king of elves with made up stories about the stone’s sacred usage

#lotr rop #prince durin #gil galad #sad good looking weirdo post

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celebrimborium · 1 year

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she wears strength and darkness equally well, the girl has always been half goddess, half hell. – nikita gill

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celebrimborium · 2 years

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halbrand handing valandil his sword • episode v

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celebrimborium · 2 years

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character appreciation • elrond

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celebrimborium · 2 years

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the apocryphal song of the roots of hithaeglir • episode v

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celebrimborium · 1 year

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by the mouth of the river? – who are you?

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celebrimborium · 2 years

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All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king.

— J. R. R. Tolkien, The Riddle of Strider

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celebrimborium · 1 year

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HAPPY NEW YEAR (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

Hope everyone has a lovely 2023 😊❤️

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celebrimborium · 2 years

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One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them, In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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greeneyed-thestral · 11 months

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#W H A T #elrond #elrond rop #durin #durin iv #rings of power #the rings of power #partings #rings of power 1x05 #the rings of power 1x05 #lotr #trop #rop #lotrop #lotrop 1x05

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greeneyed-thestral · 11 months

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#elrond #elrond rop #durin #durin iv #rings of power #the rings of power #partings #rings of power 1x05 #the rings of power 1x05 #lotr #trop #rop #lotrop #lotrop 1x05

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