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harlepinyo · 1 month
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sua
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muffypollz · 1 month
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ruler of my heart
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Doomed by the plot. 🌺
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sailermoon · 6 months
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MIZISUA|Alien Stage by VIVINOS
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saphflare · 1 month
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I just think they should all kiss and then violently overthrow the aliens that enslaved them ^_^
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ochi-does-art · 1 day
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round 7 prediction 😁😁
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aslyran · 1 month
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To be engulfed in silence
In your gaze where I’m seen
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3vil3x · 15 days
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Waiter waiter! More doomed yuri please!
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chokehoe · 1 month
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Sobbing somebody save me from alnst
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hell-dusk · 1 month
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Is there a place alien stage fans converge I am in for the long haul.
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seviinoxiel · 2 months
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Alien Stage Round 6 Thoughts
Ivan hated that kiss. Ivan hated that he had to resort to forcing himself on Till to save him.
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He has always mourned that Till does not look at him but he is also, at the same time, satisfied with the distance of his unrequited love. The fact that he had to close that distance and literally hold Till in his grasp is a testament to how far he is willing to go and how much he is willing to sacrifice for Till.
Ivan broke his own boundaries as much as he broke Till's and he established a connection with Till that risks subjecting him to pain just to save him. Ivan looked down on Sua for leaving behind Mizi all alone with a broken heart and called her actions selfish, but Ivan likely realized that perhaps it is that selfishness that is needed to save his Till.
The deep love that Ivan harbored for so long was only truly realized in an act of sacrifice, by reluctantly taking active steps to have Till see him at the cost of his life and the safety provided to Till by an unrequited love. Ivan pulls Till into his embrace in the form of that sacrifice, telling him, "I am here. Look at me. I love you, so you must live. I'm sorry."
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k0fii · 22 days
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Mutual Love and One-Sided Obsession
Love is mutual and that's the fundamental difference of MiziSua and IvanTill. That's what Ivan understood in his final moments - and that's why he said his feelings were shallow.
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Prefacing this, not really an analysis but more of a personal connection and overview of the songs of alnst, with a quote from Richard Siken on love.
"If it was unrequited, it wasn't your first love, it was your first desire. You've got all your loves ahead of you. That sounds pretty great to me."
My Clematis; Love and the Significance of a Duet
My Clematis is a song that stands out amidst all other Alien Stage performances. Not only because it's a duet with the intentions of a tie, but also because Mizi and Sua are singing this song to and for each other. Instead of catering to the audience before them, they look to each other. In an act of defiance, they love each other. Sua sings to Mizi, as Mizi sings to Sua and this performance isn't for anyone else but them. It's beautiful, enchanting and Sua's death is made more painful by that love that's so clearly shown to the audience. Even as Sua is taken away from Mizi, nobody can deny the fact that they love each other. That the feeling between them was undeniably love.
Unknown (Till the End...); Idolization
In juxtaposition to My Clematis' heavy focus on the duet between Mizi and Sua, UTTE makes it a point to show how Till takes the spotlight all for himself one-sidedly, not even allowing his opponent to sing. In a way, this represents the extent of Till's idolization - only his feelings, the admiration for this idealized version of Mizi he has in his head are sang and borderline shouted out. The other singer is drowned out in Till's intense voice and declaration of love;
"Ain't nobody but you're the one that I'm feeling it's love"
However, Till fails to realize that the thing he wanted - Mizi's gaze to look back at him too - is rooted in reciprocity. It means allowing the other singer to get their voice out, it means allowing this preconceived notion he has of her in his head to be shattered by the reality of who Mizi truly is. UTTE is a representation of how Till's deluded image of Mizi overpowers the reality he currently lives in, it's a form of escape for someone who has always been shackled by chains.
It's a contradiction present in the song itself;
"I wanna know all about you (ya)"
For all Till sings that he wants to get to know Mizi, he never attempts to get closer to her and always, in his view of her, she's far away like an idol he can't reach. Like a god to a sinner that needs saving. It's the first desire of wanting to be saved, of wanting a saint to reach out their hand to you. And that first desire, as much as Till proclaims it to be love for its intensity, is known as something that's not love, something closer to obsession because of that very same intensity. Because that intensity prevents him from loving who Mizi truly is apart from who she represents in his head - again, it drowns it out.
Black Sorrow; Unrequitedness
Black Sorrow starts off with an admission; Ivan can't reach Till. He'll always follow him, even if he recognizes that all this will end in is tragedy. He constantly speaks of an absence - foreshadowing of Cure perhaps, but also of Till leaving him and turning back, of Till always choosing to not stay by his side, to chase for an unreachable idol. To the viewer, Black Sorrow is a song solely focused on Ivan but we can see in the video that Ivan allows his opponent to sing - a representation of his subservient nature but also perhaps of the fact he sees Till. He allows Till to sing out in deafening roars and sees him for what he is, and admires him for that. In contrast to UTTE's idealistic nature, Black Sorrow is very much rooted in reality. Till is pointedly not awake during this song - once again, he doesn't see Ivan but also he is not woken up to the reality that Ivan forces him to face. If not rooted in love because of the acknowledgement of unrequitedness, then what is Ivan's desire? It's to drown in his chosen black sea of sorrow.
Cure; Obsession and the Significance of a Duet
Ivan and Till both sing to someone who is not listening, they both sing to someone who is not looking at them in contrast to My Clematis.
"Dissolve me in your gaze
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Please, leave me scars
Please, hurt me so that
Not a single drop of me remains
Let me drown in you"
Till wants to drown in the fantasy he's created for himself - going back to the sinner analogy, he wants everything of him that he views as wrong cleansed by Mizi's saintly presence. For once, Till lacks the same conviction he did before - he's pleading now, and asking as if praying to a dead god. Maybe it's because he thinks Mizi is gone, maybe it's because he thinks he's beyond saving.
"May they linger on your tongue
You can break me apart
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I'll drown in you"
Ivan remains the same, steadfast in his determination and doubling down on his declarations in Black Sorrow. He doesn't ask - he knows his 'love' is unrequited, but that he will drown in it anyways.
"To this everlasting melody
Face to face we dance
With our story
Lost in forever's embrace"
Despite the lyrics stating that they stand face to face, they don't - one is always looking away. That's why, the story of what they are and what could've came to be is lost in the embrace of a time that's both not there and forever there. What they could've been is not what they are because of that everlasting melody, the obsession the two of them have that is distinctly not love because it's unrequited. Because they will always ask to be consumed in another's gaze instead of simply looking at each other and seeing. Because Till's first desire is to be saved and Ivan's first desire is to drown, the round would have always ended that way.
"Thank you for being the victim of my shallow emotions."
Ivan thought he and Sua were similar at one point. He felt jealous when he realized that the fundamental difference between them was that Sua was loved, and he was not. I think that in his final moments, he recognized this jealousy for what it was - the incessant human need to be loved and to be wanted. And what does that love entail? He sees it in Mizi and Sua, it means loving and being loved in return. That's what love is, and with heartbreaking clarity, he understands that it's not what has driven him or Till this far. A one-sided obsession could never be love, because love is always mutual. To love is to be seen, to be known. Ivan was not the former, Till was not the latter.
He steels himself, he will drown in these shallow emotions, just as he always planned (even if the sacrifice was not). He knows this sacrifice seems hypocritical, but it couldn't be with such a simple yet clear difference.
Compared to the deep grief brought about by the deep and intense emotions of love and loss, the pain he will cause Till will only be as shallow as his own emotions. Because it only reached Ivan, only drowned him and it never seemed to reach Till.
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priestess-of-yuri · 12 days
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"sweet dream" takes on a whole new meaning if you consider how mizi deifies sua.
sua sings about wanting proof of a god that sees her, absolves her, saves her. to mizi, sua is a god. it makes you think: they seem so clearly requited in their feelings. but if we can interpret mizi's worship as the same as her feelings, does that mean that sua singing this solo is somehow connotating that she doesn't return mizi's feelings?
i've touched on this before in another post. i think that sua can be interpreted as having catholic-adjacent trauma! her owners have treated her badly, she knows the true nature of the alien stage... it's very likely she does return mizi's feelings, but feels ashamed of doing so. perhaps this is why she seems more reserved than mizi.
"sweet dream" is her lament of trying to appeal to the higher power she believes in, to try to save her from the darkness, and perhaps save mizi from the darkness because she feels she is beyond saving.
and it's very likely she feels beyond saving (as can be seen in lyrics such as "i don't have any words anymore / it has no meaning" and "the morning probably won't come for me") which makes "sweet dream" all the more poignant.
to sua, this "sweet dream" with mizi was never meant to last, but she still hopes. and isn't that just the true essence of religion? hoping when it's all you have? she still hopes that her lord will take her to heaven, to wait for the day when she will be reunited with mizi (it's just sweet dream, it's today, wait for me / i'll go see you soon.)
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wodimewoahtime · 1 month
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thinking about alien stage ace attorney au.....
it would be great to have mizi as a defense attorney and sua as the prosecutor methinks....... childhood friends who where torn apart after sua found mizi at a crime scene (sua erased all evidence and distanced herself)
ALSO IVAN AS THE DETECTIVE!!!!! hyuna would also make a great detective but ivan sua worst coworkers on earth save me
anyways so hyuna takes the place of mia (NOT DEAD) but here's the thing. who's the weird girl?!?!?!
its till. till would be the best weird girl companion ever. he makes funny comments about all the witnesses and tries to pick a fight with detective ivan. he stuck around after mizi saved him from being framed in the middle of his music competition (crushing on her rip)
i feel like luka is also a prosecutor (manfred von karma 100% guilty rate style) hyuna da and luka prosecuted is good....... throwing him in jail for the murder of hyun woo that hyuna has been unearthing for years........
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shakingparadigm · 2 months
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Btw have you listened to any covers by the alstg VA? Do you have any favorites ? Just got reminded bcs omg new akugetsu cover 😮!
SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. it's amazing to get this ask actually because just this morning I was drafting a post about the ALNST VAs and how good they are! They're all so talented, and they fit their roles perfectly. I truly couldn't imagine anyone else playing their roles!
Here's a favorite cover/song of mine from each VA!
(Note: These are all just based on my personal preference, and I haven't gone very deep into each VA's discography yet save for a few. These are just the covers that I listen to most frequently! Please forgive my basic ass taste btw)
Russian Roulette (Red Velvet) by Rubyeye (Mizi's VA)!
I'm gonna be honest, I'm a very simple person. Russian Roulette is just a very cute song! And I think it suits Mizi so well, all bright, bubbly and candy sweet (at least in rhythm)!
I love hearing Rubyeye's voice no matter where it is honestly, she's rather versatile! In ALIEN STAGE, Mizi often sings slower ballads (My Clematis), or in her lower, more mature voice (Ruler of My Heart). She sounds absolutely gorgeous of course, but Rubyeye's voice in more energetic songs is such a joy to hear as well!
My second favorite Rubyeye cover is actually the Mizi version of UTTE! Can you tell that I love hearing Rubyeye's more energetic covers. Can you tell yet. I know it's very unpopular, but I love Mizi UTTE so much. The way that she sings is so incredibly charming to me, she has a lot of spunk in this cover! I love how she sang "ain't nobody but!" I honestly love that lyric more in Mizi's version than I do in the original! It holds a lot of character which I adore.
Catch You Catch Me (Cardcaptor Sakura OP) by C!nah (Sua's VA)!
Once again, I am a simple person. I can't resist a cute and sweet cover.
C!nah's light and angelic voice fits so well into this song! It sounds absolutely lovely. Plus I already loved the song beforehand, so I might be a bit biased lol
C!nah's voice in general is so unique. It has such an clear and airy quality to it! They picked such a perfect voice for Sua.
My second favorite C!nah cover is Sua's version of ROMH! I adore how Sua sings like a whisper. Her voice brings such a haunting feel to the song.
LILAC (IU) City Pop Cover by 6FU;
Being honest, my favorite 6FU; song is actually Drunk and Party.
But if we're talking covers, this one might just be my favorite due to how shocked I was upon listening to it.
Hyuna has a very energetic and rough voice, with such a strong and unique tone. I was expecting it when clicking on this cover, which was why I was pleasantly surprised to hear a much smoother, calmer voice.
And it's beautiful! I haven't listened to much from 6FU; yet, so I might find some new favorites once I do. For now, I'll keep listening to this cover over and over again.
Sweet Dream (Luka Version) by BL8M (Luka's VA)!
OKAY I know this already an Alien Stage song. I don't know if it counts but I'm putting here anyway because GOD.
THE TONE AND TEXTURE OF HIS VOICE. I'M IN AWE.
Was absolutely floored listening to this for the first time. I actually ascended
BL8M is actually one of the songwriters for ALIEN STAGE, and he sang the demo for this song!
You can really hear his expertise. He owns this song.
My "the worst person you know has the voice of an angel" post was literally about this I was going insane
THE WAY HE SANG THE PRECHORUS. THE "save me please" OUHHH...
They couldn't have picked anyone better for Luka. He literally kills every song he sings.
유우리(優里) - 베텔기우스(ベテルギウス) by PARK BYEONG HOON (Ivan's VA)!
PBH's wonderfully rich and deep voice. What a blessing.
I love how soft he sounds in the beginning of most of his covers, slowly growing in intensity until he's fully expressing the song.
The ranges he uses in this cover are so nice to listen to. I love the switching between his deeper lower voice and his soft higher voice.
Thinking about Ivan's voice in CURE and how it's probably going to sound more anguished and desperate than this makes me sick btw.
Anyways please listen to this cover he deserves the support.
Um. My other favorite PBH cover is umm. uh. The short clip of a MANIAC (Stray Kids) cover he posted on Twitter.
GUYS DID YOU FUCKING HEAR THAT ONE. CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT IT??!!! HIS VOICE. THE BASS. FUCK.
I actually went insane. Finally got to hear Ivan's lower, rougher voice and I was shocked to my core. Life changing.
Cistus (KOUSEI) by AKUGETSU (Till's VA)!
HERE WE ARE. MY FAVORITE.
So this technically isn't a cover. It's an original song that AKUGETSU sang vocals for. Sorry. I'm just so obsessed I needed to share it.
IT'S SOOO FUCKING GOOD. SERIOUSLY.
Of all the ALNST VA's I've probably listened to AKUGETSU the most (sorry. Till bias) and this song is still probably one of my absolute favorites from him.
JUST LISTEN TO IT. The guitar in the intro. The quieter vocals in the first verse that build up to a BURST of sound in the chorus. The way he enunciates everything is perfect.
AKUGETSU is such a seasoned singer. He really knows how to work his voice and knock a song out of the park. It's genuinely addicting.
This song is such a fucking banger. Till would sing this. GOD IM SO OBSESSED WITH THIS SONG.
Another absolute banger from AKUGETSU is his cover of I'm Invincible (Ado)! I love the way his voice moves, going high and low in the same line. He's such a dynamic singer.
I adore how AKUGETSU brings an energetic rock vibe to every song he sings. His voice is such a standout.
Sorry for the long ass answer! I love all the ALNST VAs and I really hope they continue to flourish! Thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk about them 🙏
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magodangretsus · 1 year
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Okay alien stage analysis on a running theme I noticed since the first video and have been paying attention to so far: love as a savior.
(spoilers for Round 5, which I have managed to analyze through this lens.)
Mizi and Sua make this most obvious - we get it from Mizi's point of view, but I assume the feeling is mutual. Mizi explains in the song break of My Clematis that humanity has forgotten God, no longer believe because their lives are cruel and unfair, if God exists, he's abandoned them. Humans are slaves, killed for entertainment and sport. But these children are afraid, they want hope, they want to be saved from their suffering. So Mizi believes in Sua - not in that she's going to actually deliver her from her suffering, but in that the love they share will make it bearable.
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Mizi and Sua's time together and their love for each other makes them able to smile, gives them hope of a way out of Alien Stage - they join hands and sing as one, and feel like their love will save each other from death, that it will break the system. (They fail, but that they had hope in the first place is what matters. They hadn't given up, in the face of all the suffering they felt.)
My initial interpretation of Round 2 is that Till, equally suffering and longing for hope and escape, saw their love and dreamed that Mizi's love would save him as well.
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Now having watched Round 3, I think it's equally true that, seeing a girl whose love can save, he also wanted to be her savior. He found the strength to be brave, to rebel, because he loved her. And that courage saves him as well, saves him from giving into fear and hopelessness.
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And, of course, Ivan - Ivan wanted to be Til's savior. He literally rescued him, offered him escape, but even literally becoming Til's savior did not make him Til's love - Til still wanted to be Mizi's, so much that he gave up the chance to be saved himself.
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So of course, when it was announced that Luka would be the focus of the next Alien Stage video, I came into it with my eyes focused on what Luka thinks a savior is, if he has someone he wants to save or be saved by.
At first glance, this question simply is not answered. Our first glimpse of him is kissing the bloodied hand of his round 4 opponent (whose hair you can see in the background, it matches what we see on the tournament bracket). They are lying in a tub filled with their own blood, and to me, it looks like Luka is responsible, or at least pleased with the outcome.
And then throughout his song, he is cruel - teasing a clearly traumatized Mizi, taking control of her while she attempts to resist, panicked, until she finally breaks through and stops his voice herself. Many initial reactions I've seen are to the tune of "wow, Luka is horrible, I'm so glad Mizi beats his face in!!" He is an antagonist.
At least at first glance. I noticed something (after rewatching like 70 times) - when Mizi is being pulled off Luka, he smirks.
Hyuna is among those arresting Mizi, and she meets eyes with Luka as she takes her away. She isn't killed on stage the way Sua was, and when we see the ending bracket, after Mizi's picture is darkened, we see those error notifications "ERROR: MIZI MISSING". Missing means she wasn't killed, even though Luka won the match.
I think Luka and Hyuna were working together to save Mizi. I assume to help them end Alien Stage, save them all and break the cycle. We don't know yet, but I think we will find that the concept of a savior will become very relevant to Luka as well.
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