#soul transplants

[abybweisse]

Ch204 (p2), Bodies and souls

The head matron drops that bomb from ch203 that Theo is to fledge next.

I'm a bit confused why they mention Nick, except that he would be the next candidate for real Ciel, if Theo wasn't there. I was worried for a moment there that they had already fledged Nick without us even knowing about it. However, they talk about Ginny in past tense and Nick in present tense, so he must still be there.

Gosh, this young Black lady here. I hope she turns against the orphanage, because I can tell she feels deeply that this is not acceptable. Partly, she is asking because she doesn't know everything that the head matron has already been told, or perhaps she has forgotten what she was already told. Either way, she still wonders why it has to be like this.

The head matron uses the same terms Blavat used at Sphere Music Hall: radiance, stars. However, "aptitude" has been added. She acts like it's these "stars" themselves who "possess technologies way more advanced" that theirs, as if they are from some advanced alien civilization.

It's odd for her to talk about not just their bodies but also specifically their souls. Someone has told her that their souls need to be as similar to the souls of the "stars", too, not just a match in their bodies. This reminds me of what was told (probably by Undertaker) to Chris Heathfield, and that the baron repeated to Jane.

So, I'm definitely not giving up my theory that Undertaker is experimenting with soul transplants, too, not just blood transfusions and organ transplants. To him, a soul is basically an organ, anyway, right? It could be that the best way for them to match their souls is by assessing their aptitudes. It's not just the blood typing, it's the combination of blood type and aptitude test results. And then reinforcing the similarities. She even has the nerve to call this a "clinical trial".

But Susan doesn't care too much about the details, as she hopes to use her high earnings to leave soon and open her own business, some sort of shop. I wonder where the money is coming from to keep paying such high wages, since we saw those money-donating renal patients die, but it could be coming from the hotel resort in Brighton....

Susan goes to the cold vault to get blood for Doll, and we see they have also been storing blood for the other lords of the stars. Though it's possible they don't currently have any for Sirius, which would help explain why a Pomeranian like Theo would be next.

Now this is interesting. "Things are taking longer this time"... compared to what? Last time Doll needed blood? Or something else about Doll's condition? What, exactly, is taking longer this time? 🤔

#black butler #kuroshitsuji #ch204 #chapter release #chapter review #chapter analysis #fol orphanage #susan #staff #ginny #doll #blood types #blood transfusion #soul transplants #experiments #clinical trials #soul shapes #shapes of souls #theo #theodore #lords of the stars #radiance #lord canopus #lord sirius #sep 15 2023 #part two #part 2

[synthshenanigans]

a heart or brain transplant would be p fucked up to heart and mind wouldn't it

#{guys you aren't his LITERAL heart and mind you'd be fine-} [(YOU DONT KNOW THAT]) #you just get a heart transplant and now when you split into 3 you have like Mind Soul & Greg #like who's heart is this #chonny jash

[sutekiniichan]

Eriks Trigun 1998, Trigun Stampede 2023

#Trigun #Trigun Stampede #Tristamp #Vash the Stampede #Lina Trigun #Eriks #Trigun spoilers #Tristamp spoilers #trigun comparisons #It’s always so interesting to me #to see familiar dialogue transplanted into a different context or said by a different character #the fact we already have transplanted dialogue gives me a feeling Eriks will play out quite differently #and honestly it should because July was monumentally more soul shattering than the fifth moon #trigun 1998

[wulvert]

six sided lore last i bothered thinking abt her she is an android who cheats at gambling very proficiently & goes along with mari (the main character, who is a massive clunky robot) on their quest to sue like sooo many people for reasons that are convoluted.

#so like mari used to be a human person but they paid for soul transplant insurance in case of fatal accident & they got put in a much less- #humanoid body than they paid for and are kind of miffed abt it #thats it. its dumb. #but i like them. i think six being assumed human & mari being assumed robot is cute. i mean mari is a robot. but like. idk

[madeinjapan-thailand-blbambeyond]

MADE IN THAILAND

BAM (BEAUTIFUL ASIAN MEN)

From My Primary Blog- BL-BAM-BEYOND

PHURIPAN SAPSANGSAWAT

[Nickname: POOM]

POOMPAT IAM-SAMANG

[Nickname: UP]

#MADE IN THAILAND #THAILAND-JAPAN BLOG #SERIES: MY STAND-IN #THE SOUL OF JOE IN ANOTHER JOE #STAY AWAY FROM MING...DUDE IS CRAY CRAY FRFR #My GIFS #MYGIFSET #MY-GIF-EDIT #BL-BAM-BEYOND FAMILY OF BLOGS #BAM: BEAUTIFUL ASIAN MEN #PRIMARY BLOG TRANSPLANT

[icewindandboringhorror]

me everytime I am preparing a meal with multiple elements I have to balance so they all finish cooking at the same time: Wow this is just like the 2009 hit Nintendo Wii game 'Food Network: Cook Or Be Cooked'

#or like if I'm making two things and one finishes cooking before the other and has to sit there and get cold #in my brain it's always like 'tsk tsk.. they would deduct points from my score for that' hjhjb #one of those instances of game mechanics imprinting onto your brain. kind of like imagining sims interaction moodlets in irl conversations #i LOVE the game though it's so fun. I've never even heard of it before I just found it by the dumpster in a box of other old wii #games someone was apparently discarding and picked it up due to my interest in cooking shows and stuff #I like having to time things and all the little actions you can do. though sad that there's so little recipes #you can unlock the whole game in like a day or something. I think if I had more time and social energy to actually talk in forums or be par #of a 'community' - I think looking into the type of stuff where people mod wii games and etc. would be very very cool #Wii is my favorite console and so much of the time I am always like 'grrr.. they dont make new games.. and this one game is very cool #but imagine if these 5 improvments were made to it! it would be SO much cooler!' etc. #Like being able to download new custom recipes/levels for Cook or Be Cooked lol #Modding wii sports resort the same way that some people mod skyrim and build entirely new games out of it #with new quests and etc. Like just.. create your own sports.. RPG mode.. use the already existing archery assets and etc. to have a mode #where you can just free roam around the map shooting at enemies and stuff ghhjbjh #WHICH I WOULD LOVE DEARLY.. #I dont realyl like combat in games but idk I'd make an exception.. whatever.. I just want to play more in the Wii World #I have the soul of one of those people who builds all their own computers and 3D prints custom frames to transplant their 3DS into and #has like all special 'hacked' phones and wii mods and customizes everything and etc. etc. like.. 100% my exact personality and preferences #HOWEVER I just simply do not have the money or physical energy/time to get onto projects like that #The best I can hope for is one day having a close friend who does that so I can maybe use their 3D printer every once in a while or we both #collaborate on some wii modding project or etc. but I just couldn't on my own.. I already have too much stuff going on.. Have to make #compromises due to lack of money + low energy + busy. Like I could never build my own phone. I could save up for a teracube phone #or something so it's better and more repairable than all these dumbass modern phones you cant even take the backs off of. but that's probab #y the best I could do lol. ANYWAY.. Especially wii customization. I could get really into that.. I saw a picture one time of someone who #made like a semi transparent case for theirs kind of like the famous purplish see through gameboy color case but for a wii.. which is.. aAA #yearning crying sobbing etc. etc. so on and so forth

[malhare]

Rewatching the Walten Files, it's so brutal how Bon always targets his victims' faces and just completely mauls them beyond recognition

#Smth smth literally erasing their identity by destroying their face before transplanting their souls into characters he wants them to embody #malhare.txt

[lordgoopy]

the thing abt bg3 and finally getting into fantasy a little is that you get the most annoying plp arguing abt the existence of the soul. im not arguing with a fantasy nerd abt the soul go play soma!!!!

#or at least go watch jacob geller's head transplants and the non-existence of the soul #goopy.txt #im not opposed to the narrative use of souls even if personally i think theyre bunk. #seeing as some of my fave media has them as central points #my main gripe with the concept of a soul is that its anthropocentric and also just is boring and a nothing concept

[nomaishuttle]

meryl is the bravest computer girl ever...

#171 tabs open . dling things from all of them. also listening to music and also i accidentally had her like right in front of my heater #sry girl. i love you i love you i love you.. #when her soul is transplanted into her next body (whenever i get a new laptop (long time from now (i typed that to reassure her so she #doesnt get scared (i love her so much)))) i hope i can find one with eitherr customizable rgb or just a color i like more... she is red and #i cant chqnge it.. my dad got it 4 me AND I RLY APORECIATE IT i am not complaining shes suchhh a good laptop and also is my best friend of #all time. i just dont fw the red that much

[legendaryrooftopscene]

hi, sorry, not to nitpick a show about a grim reaper romancing the world's most tsundere doctor but where the FUCK is your heart transplant surgery scar my guy

#i know it's been 20 years but scars like that do not vanish EVER #my mom's kidney transplant scar is 15-ish years old and that bitch is Present And Accounted For #also not to be a downer but a single transplant heart would not have lasted 20 years so sorry king #original #dear doctor #dear doctor i'm coming for soul

[hua-fei-hua]

it's finally happened, lads... ye olde shitty fanfiction pitches doc has been forced to retire on account of eating up too much latent ram on my computer

#rest in pieces shitty fanfiction pitches numbers 1-734 you will almost never be revisited bc you're not part #of volume 3 (jjk/gi era) now that the orig doc has been split #i might revisit volume 2 (soul eater/bnha era) every so often bc damn if i didn't have some total bangers of ideas there #i think i've changed/grown too much to find much worth revisiting in volume 1 (snk/fma era) #like i saw a few there as i was carrying them over to their new homes on diff docs that i remember being really in love with #way back in the day but now i'm like 'oh. yeah i can't transplant this anywhere. also it's not to my tastes anymore' #'where is the finding the beauty in the ugliest parts of our own human nature? where is the soulmates are made not found?' #'where is the DEVOTION?????????' #i didn't like destroy the orig pitches doc or anything it's just labeled (RETIRED MASTER DOC) now #also doing this seems to prove my hunch that i had the highest QUANTITY of pitches when i first started writing fic #but as time has gone on that's gone down in favor of improved QUALITY and/or DETAIL #like we just do not have one-sentence pitches anymore #花話

[abybweisse]

how do you think the Undertaker will go about these soul transplants? Unlike blood, souls are much more abstract in nature and can't just be (if I may put it to bluntly) be sucked out of someones body and pumped into someone else. But regardless, his plan is doomed to fail and I just hope that he's not gonna die in the end :(

⚠️ Long post ⚠️

Soul transplant "surgery"

It would definitely be more surgical-like than sucking it out and pumping it in. Less like blood transfusions and liposuction... and more like an organ transplant.

To humans, a soul would be ethereal, but to demons and reapers it's likely something they can hold, just about as easily as a kidney or heart. Maybe not quite that physically tangible but nearly. How else would reapers be able to collect them and demons be able to eat them?

And why else would Jane, Heathfield, and that matron at F. O. L. talk about making souls match, sometimes even referring to their shapes?

I think of souls in the Kuroverse being somewhat moldable but only to an extent. In Jujutsu Kaisen, the curse Mahito doesn't seem to be able to create souls, but he can definitely manipulate/reshape souls; when he changes the shape of a soul, it actually changes the shape of whatever body it's in. If he is injured, instead of healing himself, he just preserves or reshapes his own soul to fix the injury; he can even replace lost limbs this way.

In the Kuroverse, reapers cannot make souls, either. Reapers don't even have Mahito's soul-shaping abilities. That's why Undertaker has this orphanage running "clinical trials". They start out with children because they are less set in their ways; they are more moldable. First, they are separated into four classes, based on blood type. That's the first level of compatibility.

They also take those "aptitude" tests about favorite animals, foods, etc, but choosing the "wrong" answers on those tests doesn't get you placed in another class, since class is ultimately based on blood type. What they do is force kids who have the blood type but lack the same preferences to get used to those things that are expected of their "aptitude". Some of them never fit the mold:

Ginny (Corgi) still didn't particularly like horses.

Nick (Pom) wants to play outside and prefers foods served to the other classes.

Daniel (Collie) can't stand wearing a dress or doing so-called "women's work".

Milly (Collie) doesn't like the food served to "her" class. (Staff refers to Milly as a girl, so Milly might otherwise fit the aptitude pretty well, unless it's a translation error.)

These students who make poor candidates end up being used for blood and possibly some organs.

The top students match not just the blood types but also the "aptitudes" of their respective star lords:

Theo probably likes being indoors, likes dogs, likes the menus for the Pomeranian class (probably prefers strawberry cake over chocolate), likes to read and play chess, etc. He's smart and charming, too.

Oliver is shy and tries to make it seem like he's not a good match, but that's only because he knows something is wrong. But he's a good cook (when he's paying attention) and his embroidery skills are top notch. He seems skilled in the martial arts they learn. He must not care too much what he wears. He likes the food that the Collies eat -- or he just doesn't complain -- and he probably adores whatever animal Layla likes best.

Artie is stubborn and might not like some aspects of being in Mastiff class, but he doesn't complain, since he thinks/thought the orphanage is/was his only chance of finding a decent job later. He probably likes whatever animal Polaris likes best. He doesn't mind hard work. He takes pride in what he does and keeps the other students in line, even if they aren't in his class.

Mabel must like horses (though that option isn't on the aptitude test), sports/athletics, and being outside. She likes whatever animal Doll likes best, possibly the weasel. She eats what's served to her class. She's friendly and outgoing.

These are the four kids most likely to be used for not just blood and organs... but also their souls. It's particularly bad that in ch204 they've all now been caught snooping around the orphanage. They officially know too much now about the place. (Gee, thanks, Emily. 🙄)

Theo was about to be fledged, but now all four top students could get "mass fledged". I hope any attempt to kill them off fails! I don't want Undertaker to use their souls for the star lords.

He might have already tried with earlier candidates that seemed to fit their aptitudes well, but they didn't work out as hoped. And he could eventually try with our earl (for real Ciel, of course). Theo might survive simply because Yana-san wants Undertaker to feel forced to combine the twins, like as some last resort.

But what would a soul transplant procedure actually look like?

That's your main question. We don't know much about the nature of souls in the Kuroverse, especially in manga canon. We just know that the anime staff for s2 let Claude steal "Ciel's" soul and keep it in a ring in a tin of tea leaves. He also traps Alois/Jim's soul in a ring. It's not explained how he does that... or how he transfers these souls back out of the rings and into bodies. We do know that the concept of soul shapes exists in s2, or at least compatibility based on similar life experiences; Claude reinforces the similarities between "Ciel" and Alois/Jim before combining both souls into one body. Again, the how isn't explained.

No telling whether Undertaker will ever explain how to transfer a soul from one body to another, but he might also use some device as a temporary vessel. A hair locket, perhaps. The new soul would need to "fit" the shaped "hole" left behind by the soul that's gone. If the fit isn't just right, the person is likely to behave erratically or maybe even become lethargic -- some sort of physical reaction that shows it's not working right. Could even be the person spouting nonsense or screaming in agony. Such reactions would suggest the person is experiencing some form of existential crisis or something, right? Struggling to separate body from soul. Worst case scenario might be the person trying to rip out the soul but in reality they just rip themselves apart. These different reactions are basically organ rejection... but against souls instead of a kidney or liver.

If the soul matches well enough, the person might start to behave pretty much the same as before they ever died, though they might develop certain quirks they didn't have before.

It would be interesting -- dreadful, but interesting -- to see our earl's soul placed into the body of real Ciel, since it's been emphasized they are mirror twins. Presumably, their souls mirror each other, too. If that's true, then our earl's soul would essentially have to be implanted backwards/faced the opposite direction. This could lead to a particularly dangerous mismatch!

When Undertaker is finally confronted again (by our earl and Sebastian, as well as by reapers), he's likely to eventually be forced to give up, if he doesn't just fight to his own death. By then, his experiments are likely to have failed, in some way. Sadly, his chances of surviving the series are pretty low. He might even end up on Othello's examination table. 😔

Truth is, what does Undertaker have left, if this all-consuming project is a major failure? Where does he go? What does he do? His doomed end is almost an inevitability, in terms of storytelling traditions....

#black butler #kuroshitsuji #soul collection #soul transplants #organ transplants #undertaker #real ciel #lords of the stars #lord sirius #lord polaris #lord vega #lord canopus #theo #theodore #artie #oliver #mabel #nicholas #daniel #milly #doll #layla #al #polaris #ginny #manga vs anime #anon asks #i answer #answered asks #sep 19 2023

[transplantdiary]

I wanted to be at home sooo much, I barely believed, when the doc told us, we can spend the easter at home. I cried a bit and when we arrived, I felt like a stranger at my home😔 I' m walking in the house, touch the furnitures, nothing feels like i'm at home. My son is stressed, feels the same and he' s afraid of getting fever. We told him to keep calm and try to enjoy of being at home. I know it' not easy. We were at hospital from 27th december. A long long time.. and we' ll be there till the end of the summer. The transplant will be at 24th april, so we have to "move" to the sterile box at 15th. It' s 2 weeks.

We planned to stroll a little, but Son's blood oxygen is too low for that. He gets tired after a few steps. Hard to see it. When he gets blood, he becomes so vivid. We go for long walks in the nearby park, but now, just a few steps and enough. He' s extemely pale, his lips are sore. Now he seem ill🙁

#mom' s soul #highwaytohealth #stem cell transplant

[lucyvsky]

CAS >:(

#spn.liveblogs #jacob geller head transplants + nonexistence of the soul were really in it now

[todayisafridaynight]

RIGHT YEAH I was also thinking about the scenario of Jo accompanying Masato in relation to this, in the vein of… that'd solidify that the whole lie was always about His Family and not The Family right… because what can Jo even DO for the family while he's away? He's more than a glorified accountant.

Though thinking about it, he probably wouldn't have been away too long, at least compared to a prison sentence for murder. Because Masato only faked his death in 2004 (at the very latest, I guess; it's when the news went public) and Bleach Japan was founded "almost 20 years" prior to 2019, at which point Aoki and Ogasawara had already graduated and returned to Japan.

That and Aoki wasn't in a wheelchair anymore when he met Ogasawara at Harvard, so perhaps Jo would only really /need/ to stay for the procedure and Aoki's physical therapy and all, though of course I can see him staying longer. Still, not too long, all things considered.

So this scenario's kind of the worst of both worlds, because perhaps those first couple of years it's Arakawa's own stubbornness, and then the rest of his family has to go away anyway. And he's so sure in that time what he needs is to be with his family again and he'll at least feel less alone, miss Ichi less.

But then Masato's Aoki now and only really staying in touch to use him and the Arakawa Family's resources for his own gain, and Jo--as you perfectly put it--doesn't know how to emotionally take care of him. So things he should be ecstatic about--seeing his son walk on his own two legs for the first time and having his right hand man back in action--end up bittersweet at best. Aiiieeeeee……

OH YEAH SHINJI I half-remembered there was a visit in 1 but not who actually went to visit Kiryu sorry for doing you like that my boy </3 still counts as part of a pattern to me though… subordinate visiting his aniki…

SPEAKING OF KIRYU. Yeah. Typical Kiryu L. Kazuma Kiryu you have blood on your hands and NOT in the funney Reddit meme way… ABSOLUTELY DERANGED to blame Ichi for anything in the ending whatsoever though like WHAT. He got him immediate medical attention and WE AS THE AUDIENCE don't even have time to react, let alone anyone living the fucking moment good god my blood pressure is spiking

ALSO THE JO POST… YEAH… yeah yeah yeah that's the shit I'm talking about… and like. This is where localization frustrates me so Bear With My Complaints a moment but his very last line is mistranslated in both versions, the sub in terms of what he was actually saying and the dub in terms of giving him this bitchy, flippant tone that doesn't convey his intent. So I'll cut them down the middle and say it's "[The] legit [way]? The word has never crossed my mind, not once."

There's just something to it as a clear thesis for his whole life and his eventual fate. Like of course Adachi means in terms of going through the proper legal processes, but words like proper, legit, decent, these also have clear connotations of adequacy. So for him to literally say NOTHING he's done has been adequate in his eyes perfectly illustrates what you were saying. Like he's always taken it as a matter of fact that nothing he could do would be enough, like that's a truth woven into his existence so tightly he never even thought about it. And now there really is nothing he can do.

i have my own theoretical timeline on masato's stay in america, but even with what we have there's a lot of variables involved with for exactly when certain events happened

under the assumption masato was to enroll at harvard in the fall of 2001 (assuming he was somehow able to be approved for a lung transplant as soon as that year), then jo would- at max- might only have to be abroad for (assuming they leave in january) nine months (to account for the time it took for masato to get approved for surgery and then the surgery itself plus the potential 3-6 month recovery period afterwards)

alternatively, if masato had to wait a year- two max if we're being optimistic so he could graduate on time under an accelerated 2-year academic schedule to get surgery- then jo, similarly, would have to be abroad for a similar amount of time.

the time gone doesn't matter too much i guess: arakawa will still be left alone for a long time, and that really couldnt have been easy either way. the time his family's gone only makes their comeback all the more bittersweet, as you put it (´▽｀;;)

OH BUT YEAH NO THE Y7 BIT THAT SHIT PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH WHEN I READ IT like mates were trying to be smart about it like 'wow ichi way to go showing how much you love aoki and how you'd do anything for him 🙄' like God Forbid a human character acts human and imperfect what the fuck you want him to do he aint got no goddamn spidey sense how the shit was he supposed to know (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)(;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)(;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)

but yeah.. speaking of Doing The Right Thing jo's never ending feelings of inadequacy are my favorite </3 cause its like.. it's a reason why i love jo so much if i can be weird to say: what he did wasnt something that you can confidently forgive or try to say 'he's done the most to rectify this' or anything like that because putting a baby in a coin locker's like.. a lot of steps are involved to do that.. not really a spur-of-the-moment kind of thing that would have grounds to forgive yourself for.. so the fact jo knows this and just has that intense guilt- it's my bread and butter to say the least 😔

#long post #snap chats #i didnt mean to ramble about my masato timeline OOPS. i havent mentioned it in months tho.... i do like thinkin a it.... #thats not even to consider the idea of jo staying abroad all four years to make sure masato was getting along fine #and to make sure he made it back to japan alright- but for the sake of giving masato some independence for a bit #we can also say jo went back when he was 'no longer needed' and just let masato live how he wanted to #but again i guess the exact amount of months and years dont matter too much #as for Jo's Suffering though i can't explain why i love it so much #i think its just cause like. its nice that a character acknowledges they did something unforgivable #like even if aoki did get the lung transplant and he's fine- or WAS fine rip- that doesnt negate the 24 some years he had to be miserable #i cant explain it im very bad at explaining things can we tell #its just such a weird situation. because again what jo did isnt something you can excuse or forgive yk #like masato's critical years and his early adulthood were severely impacted by his disability #to say half his life was altered by jo's actions is an understatement- and jo knows that right #even if he made sure everything that could be done for him to make his life better was done #there was probably always that thought of 'this extra work wouldnt be necessary if i didnt do that' yk what i mean #so i guess im just glad he's dedicated to acknowledging that and trying to take responsibility for it now #idk idk i cant explain it but i hope we know what i mean. dear god i hope we do words arent my strong suit #but yeah again.... now he cant do anything to continue righting that wrong in his eyes #now its just guilt with no means of alleviating it and THAT. hurts the soul in a good way. me thinks anyhow

[feralplantwife]

MDZS but it's told as a bunch of extremely divisive reddit posts

r/AITA for hunting the man who ruined my life even though he non-consensually gave me an organ transplant that also ruined HIS life

r/NuclearRevenge I destroyed a man's life in every sense of the word for killing my brother and I'm over the moon about it actually

r/RelationshipAdvice The love of my life came back from the dead and now we're travelling as a married couple even though we're not married and I haven't even told him about the kid yet

r/Occult So if I come back from the dead in someone else's body do I still need to register for the census? Follow up question, do I register my body or my soul or both?

r/Let'sNotMeet my crazy uncle turns out to be my other, crazier uncle wearing his body like a suit help?????

#r/RelationshipAdvice my nephews have invoked the family curse and i dont know what to do about it #mdzs #wei wuxian #lan wangji