#spoiler: it was not empathy

[histrionicscribbler]

me: ok autism we have to be on our best behavior and not offend anybody today ok?

autism: ok!

me: (is a know it all asshole) this is empathy right

autism: yeah i think so

#spoiler: it was not empathy #i swear to god i dont intend to be rude #it is my fault tho dont read this like im shirking responsibility for my actions #me when i lie to myself that being a good kind person is easy #autism #actually autistic #audhd #actually audhd

[astearisms]

catalysts, protectors

#man those episodes #so many things put into perspective #like Simon’s role as a protector and his kindness and empathy and compassion and existence being the catalyst for the rest of ooo to #flourish #and Betty is a protector of Simon #I wonder if the last two episodes will explore more of her character? there’s so much to be explored about her giving so much of herself #to Simon but not thinking about what she wants for herself #do we get to explore her feelings or see her at all? will she have changed or learned to let go #I think there will be some sort of closure for the both of them #but at what cost #I am still crying over that scene with Simon’s memory of Betty and their song #my art #fionna and cake #fionna and cake spoilers #simon petrikov #betty grof #petrigrof #golbetty

[batfamfucker]

What About The Kens?

I'm already seeing guys complain about the Barbie movie end, how they wanted Kens to be equal in Barbieland but were only given a small part on the Cabinet.

That's the point.

You're meant to feel bad for the Kens. Believe me, women aren't partying over the 'Returns to Matriarch' ending. Some will be, but the ones who also clocked the meaning behind it won't. Most women will also feel bad for Kens. Because it's an exact parallel to how women are treated in reality.

Men, you're meant to be upset. You're meant to question it. Because you're meant to feel it, and feel what that is like, so you can finally understand women. You're upset at seeing it in a movie, now imagine living it in reality. That's being a woman.

Kens were shit on so you could feel what it was like for women this entire time. Kens were being used as a placement so you could see yourself in a woman's shoes. A world dominated by the opposite sex. When Ken leaves, and sees male presidents (All men) for the first time, men being doctors and lawyers, etc, realising he is more than just a prop for Barbie, that was on purpose. Because that is the feeling that Barbie gave to women. It's why you cheer for him at first before he goes a little overboard.

It's exactly why the real world was an exaggerated Partriarchy and Barbieland an exaggerated Matriarchy. Neither wins. Neither is equal. None of them change for the better. It's why you should want women in the real world to be respected, and Kens in Barbieland to be respected.

The thing is, women also didn't win. Not in the real world. In Barbieland, yes, but not anywhere else. The real world didn't change. But you didn't notice, did you? That Gloria (The mother that helped Barbie) also didn't get a position on the Mattel board? It was still all men? Her idea was ignored until it made a profit, and the men will likely get the credit? She'll still just be the receptionist? The women representing the real world didn't get anymore opportunities, neither did the men in Barbieland.

I was hoping that Gloria would be offered a position on the board, and that the Barbie Cabinet would introduce another entire Cabinet to represent the Kens, but neither happened. They're complete mirrors.

But which one did you actually notice? Which did you actually care about? Now tell me again the ending was unfair. Because it was. For both parties. That's the point.

The difference is, Barbieland is fictional. You will walk out of the theatre with the reassurance that at least it's not real. Women won't. Women can't. Companies not giving women equal opportunities or voices isn't fictional, and that was just one example. There are no women presidents (USA at least) for us to go look at in the real world. We don't have somewhere to go to realise it could be different for us like Ken did. Barbie and make believe is all we had when we were kids, or even now.

You're supposed to be mad, just not at the movie.

#It's going right over people's heads #I've seen men complaining about the inequality. That's the point. Now you know how it feels. Apply that same frustration #And turn it into empathy for women in reality. Because it's not nice is it? #Please for the love of God people need lessons in analysis and critical thinking #It's not a 'women just hate men and this is a women only movie' #It's please realise that you've seen what it's like to be in women's shoes. Now be the change for women that you wanted for Kens. #Barbie #Barbie Spoilers

[messiahzzz]

i’d briefly like to talk about the “it was fine” dialogue option that happens the morning after gale’s Last Night Alive scene in act ii and about the fandom's general reaction to it.

gale is a character who evidently enjoys the occasional teasing. taking the piss out of your partner every once in a while can certainly be a way of showing affection. however, it is important to consider the context of the situation: what is at stake for him and his current emotional state, as well as what exactly had transpired between the two of them prior to said conversation.

gale: forgive me. these were already trying times before elminster delivered his missive. now, for me at least, they are potentially end times.

after he and tav had spent the night together and confessed their love to each other, gale is once again showing himself utterly vulnerable and is carefully asking them for reassurance.

gale: [..] i hope that night meant as much to you as it did to me.

gale: but you - you led me away from the edge.

gale: without your words, your touch... i fear i would have sought purpose and solace in that void. you reminded me what living can feel like.

he wants to check in with them, after both of them have shared something tender and very intimate, something he might even consider life-altering.

gale: we didn't just make love. we bonded, body and soul. i got lost in you.

it’s not even about gale “not being able to read social cues” and “not recognizing the fact that it was meant in jest.” in fact, i’d argue it is a rather tone-deaf, inconsiderate response and just genuinely a REALLY BAD TIME to joke at your partner's expense when they are actively baring their feelings to you and are asking you for reassurance.

i have seen people write off his reaction as “unwarranted” or “overtly dramatic” but in my humble opinion, it is pretty understandable given the nature of their conversation and what he is asking of them. it's also sad how there seems to be a general pattern of gale's emotions and boundaries getting played off as a joke, while other companions get shown the courtesy of thorough analysis/understanding. he is proud of his skill as a lover and the fact that he was able to bring them pleasure, yet his inquiry is less about him wanting tav to stroke his ego and more about him, once again, asking if you indeed share the same feelings for each other… after the emotional high has now passed.

gale has an ever-present need for clarity in his relationships, very likely due to the fact that this was something he couldn’t request of mystra. he might appear more sensitive in that regard compared to the other companions. he doesn’t want to take himself too seriously, but this still often clashes with his general feeling of inadequacy. where he is able to take criticism as long as it isn’t related to his performance, overall prowess and usefulness.

yes, his response is passive-aggressive and yes, he IS obviously hurt by what tav said. yet merely repeating “it was fine” in response to a heartfelt, genuine question could’ve as well been interpreted in that manner. if tav does clarify that they have only been joking, he apologizes to them instead. otherwise his dialogue remains the same, albeit said in a more embarrassed & awkward tone.

gale is a character who is dealing with deep-rooted self-worth issues and yet that doesn’t mean that he wants to be handled with kid gloves, far from it. he craves a relationship in which his emotional needs are recognized, respected and cared for, where he can be unabashedly open and vulnerable without facing ridicule nor pity for it. and he is more than willing to give the same in return.

also y’know — there is a time and a place.

#“briefly” they said (sorry can't shut up once i've started. you'll have to bear with me) #this has been bothering me for a while now #by all means roast your wizard to your hearts content #but maybe opt for his shortcomings that aren’t genuinely hurtful/rooted in his self-hatred #that only serve to further reinforce his belief that he is not worthy enough #when he is still very much dealing with the inevitability of his own untimely death and sacrifice #today’s lesson in empathy lmao #aka me once again getting emotionally invested in tragic pixel men #baldurs gate 3 #bg3 #gale dekarios #gale of waterdeep #bg3 meta #bg3 spoilers #datamined dialogue

[ampresandian]

Very interested in the way they choose to adapt Percy and Grover's empathy link and the way they can speak into each other's minds to the screen? I imagine it'll be like a voice-over situation probably? Anyway I need them to include it even if it could be a little tricky to establish at first since it's like a weird thing.

#percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo #percy series #pjo spoilers #pjo tv show #percy jackson tv show #grover underwood #empathy link #percy jackson disney+ #&thoughts

[egophiliac]

before episode 34: Kekera is the only fan of this godforsaken show who has a remotely healthy relationship with media.

after episode 34: frogman what have you done

#art #kamen rider #geats #geats spoilers #kekera: (whispering to beroba) see it's called whump... #i mean between ziin who 100% gets into internet arguments about how ace could totally beat up super saiyan goku #and mr. whoops-i-keep-accidentally-negging-my-waifu kyuun #kekera is still kind of the normal one #i guess it is canon that they forgot to give future people any empathy #anyway rip ben and john. you were defeated immediately and offscreen and honestly that feels about right. #i'm waiting in vain for sae to come back. where is she.

[misfithive]

“I know you think it’s funny to point things out about people and get a laugh out of your mates. But do you ever stop and think how you are actually making people feel? Like come on harry where’s your basic human empathy?” - Isaac

ISAAC YOU ARE AN ICON, YOU ARE A LEGEND, KING OF MY HEART

#I CANNOT BE THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS ISAAC IS AUTISTIC #THIS IS MY MOST DEEPLY HELD HC AT THIS POINT #Him telling off the popular bully without a care in the world and explaining empathy so autism #isaac heartstopper #heartstopper #heartstopper spoilers

[pollyanna-nana]

I think a lot about what exactly Thistle was doing for those 1000 years. I mean, his increased monitoring of the dungeon was explicitly caused by Delgal going “missing” and a bunch of adventurers pouring in, but Yaad says that he’s “always been like this” and “not one for reasonable conversation.” I can see that being true for the rest of the golden kingdom members since he seems to not gaf about them beyond being part of Delgal’s kingdom, but what about Delgal himself?

How often did they speak and what did they talk about? Did Delgal ever beg Thistle to release them from his spell? Did Thistle ever threaten him, or would he never dare to? Could he tell Delgal was deeply miserable, or could he just not see it at that point?

He looks incredibly unwell here. How did Thistle feel about this? Did he feel anything at all, or was that nibbled out of him, too?

#polly speaks #dungeon meshi #dunmeshi #delicious in dungeon #dungeon meshi spoilers #thistle dungeon meshi #delgal melini #dungeon meta #thistle posting #there’s so much that we don’t know and it’s. aaahuuuuuuuauauh #there’s so much to be said about how having your desires eaten is like mental illness #both in the depression aspect that Mithrun displays and in the inability to feel empathy and irrationality that Thistle develops as a result #for delgal was it like having someone you love go through a severe mental health episode? but with the added baggage of All Of That? #I dunno if I’m wording this well which is why it’s staying in the tags but. yea

[six-cicatrix]

‼️Avatar 2 Spoilers below‼️

I loved the entire movie, first of all, but Quaritch’s reaction to Neytiri had me floored. Completely FLOORED.

He’s an ass who’s not really scared of anything at all. He’s got an iron will. But seeing how he looks at that arrow in his old AMP suit?? There was this LOOK on his face that wasn’t just rage, or contempt. When he saw Neytiri’s arrow again in the woods during the kid kidnapping, I think it scared the shit out of him and he covered it up with bluster and threats. And on the SHIP???

He looked at that arrow in his dead friend and his face was HAUNTED.

I think Neytiri terrifies Quaritch to his core, activates some sort of animal flight reflex in him he’d thought he’d gotten rid of because he knows she took him down and he couldn’t stop her. I think he, for the first time in ages, feels like he’s the one being hunted. And that fact could not make me more happy. When Neytiri said she would kill him as many times as she had to, I think he believed her.

#avatar #avatar way of water #avatar 2 #neytiri #avatar spoilers #I also think it was a good choice to have spider demonstrate human compassion but not empathy #he KNOWS what quaritch can do and he knows who his real friends are #but he has a good heart and good traits. and he didn’t get any of those from his father.

[imsoglitter]

Tess as a final girl is so interesting because she did everything right. She was suspicious and got documentation of Keith rather than blindly trusting him. She didn't go down the creepy passageway until it was properly lit. She was ready to bolt the moment she saw the murder room.

The real conflict of the movie was about pitting her self preservation instincts against her empathy, and it's specifically in a gendered way (I'm sure there are racial aspects as well, but I haven't finished rotating those in my brain yet). When she forgoes self preservation in her attempts to help Keith and AJ, it definitively comes back to bite her in the ass, leading to her capture in the former instance and her near re-capture and severe wounds in the latter. However it is notably her empathy/her ability to read the Mother that allows her to survive as well as she does.

This theme is repeated in the third act twist, where the well meaning retail employee helps Frank prepare for a birth, and unwittingly assists in the prolonged torture of one of his victims.

Paired with the number of times in the film that men refuse to take women's concerns seriously (Keith with the room, AJ denying his rape accusations when it's very clear he did something wrong, the cops refusing to believe Tess, the homeless man who insists that Tess leave AJ behind, etc) I think the film manages to say something interesting, if not very subtle, about the gendered nature of care in society.

Tess lasted as long as she did because of her strong empathetic response, but it's also the reason she was there in the first place

#barbarian #barbarian spoilers #barbarian 2022 #yes i know I'm using the word empathy wrong just go with it I'm tired

[seance]

#thewitcheredit #witcheredit #the witcher #netflixedit #the witcher spoilers #userbecca #useravia #userava #ughmerlin #tusermitch #witcher geralt #edits #the quality is all over the place but i needed to get it out of my system #cause i'm bursting at the seams about this character of all times #winning them all over with the power of empathy #who does it like him? #jaskieredit

[cockyroaches]

"perry was too lazy to pay attention or check the vats and that's why his death was his fault" I'd say it was 25% his fault at most. The other 75% goes to HIS STUPID ASS DAD GOING SO OFF THE CODE BY USING INSANELY CORROSIVE MATERIAL THAT COULD NOT BE PROPERLY DISCARDED, SO HE WAS STORING IT IN A BUILDING SET FOR DEMOLITION SO THE EXISTENCE OF THE CHEMICALS WOULD BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG LIKE THEY NEVER EXISTED!!!!!!!!

Roderick refusing to take blame for his son's death while very much being responsible for it is fucking insane bc it's very much his own corruption and greed that caused allll of this. Curse or no curse it would have happened. Verna didn't cause this death asshole, You did.

#do not take all my love for perry to mean i think hes without sin. theres grey areas ok im just attached to him bc of empathy (autism) #bitch mantis #the fall of the house of usher #fall of the house of usher #tfothou #tfothou spoilers #perry usher #prospero usher #im going insane. no this doesnt mean i love real life billionaires before i get messages about it. i just like Characters

[utilitycaster]

You know what's interesting to me? For all people keep claiming at every juncture that perhaps Bells Hells will come around on the gods and see the harm they do (which, as discussed extensively, is, half the time, simply not intervening) not only have they never done so, but also they never quite cross the line into saying the party should join the Ruby Vanguard or aid them - and indeed, they defend against it - so what does this achieve? It feels like they're asking for a story in which the party stands idly by, which isn't much of a story nor, if I may connect this briefly to the real world, a political stance anyone should be proud of.

That's honestly the frustration with the gods and the "what if the Vanguard has a point" conversations in-game. What do we do then? Do we allow the organization that will murder anyone for pretty much any reason that loosely ties into their goals run rampant? The group that (perhaps unwittingly, but then again, Otohan's blades had that poison) disrupted magic world-wide, and caused people who had the misfortune to live at nexus points to be teleported (most, as commoners, without means of return). While also fomenting worldwide unrest?

Those were the arguments before the trip to Ruidus; with the reveal of the Vanguard's goals to invade Exandria, the situation becomes even more dire. Do you let the Imperium take over the planet?

And do the arguments against the gods even hold up? If Ludinus is so angry at them for the Calamity, what does it say that he destroyed Western Wildemount's first post-Calamity society for entirely selfish means? (What does it say about the validity of vengeance as a motivator?) What does it say that Laudna told Imogen she could always just live in a cottage quietly without issue before the solstice even happened? (Would this still be true if the Imperium controls the world?) What does it say that when faced with a furious, grieving party and the daughter she keeps telling herself was her reason for all of this, Liliana can't provide an answer to the question of what the gods have done other than that their followers will retaliate...for, you know, the Vanguard's endless list of murders. (That is how the Vanguard and Imperium tend to think, huh? "How dare your face get in the way of my boot; how dare you hit me back when I strike you.") She can't even provide a positive answer - why is Predathos better - other than "I feel it", even though Imogen and Fearne know firsthand that Predathos can provide artificial feelings of elation. Given all the harm Ludinus has done in pursuit, why isn't the conclusion "the gods should have crashed Aeor in such a way that the tech was unrecoverable?"

Even as early as the first real discussion on what the party should do, the fandom always stopped short of saying "no, Imogen's right, they should join up with the people who killed half the party," it was always "no, she didn't really mean it, she just was trying to connect with her mother." Well, she's connected with her mother, and at this point the party doesn't even care about the gods particularly (their only divinely-connected party member having died to prevent the Vanguard from killing all of them). So they will stop the Vanguard; as Ashton says, the means are unforgiveable. As Laudna says, it's not safe to bet on Predathos's apathy. As Imogen says, she's done running; the voice that she used to think of as a lifeline belongs to someone she doesn't trust. So I guess my question is: if they're stopping the people who are trying to kill the gods (and defense of the gods isn't remotely their personal motivation)...do you think the next phase of the campaign is Bells Hells personally killing the gods? Reconstructing the Aeor tech and hoping none of their allies notice? How does this end? Does your ideology ever get enacted? Or is this entirely moot and pointless and the story ends with Bells Hells saying "well, I'm really glad we stopped the people who [insert list of Vanguard atrocities from above]; none of us follow the gods or plan to, but honestly, the status quo we return to is preferable to whatever nightmare Ludinus had concocted in his violent quest for power and revenge"?

#i've got a lot to do today so I think I'm done posting but #cr spoilers #i called that this particular cohort of fans had empathy only for those like them and were terrified of player agency like. 18 mos ago #and i have never been proven wrong. zero analysis just a constant demand that everyone coddle their feelings and confirm their biases #literally will straight up fabricate lore and cry you're disrespecting a pretend person for not including it in your considerations #absolutely SHIT understanding of actual lore. utter incapacity to follow a logical throughline to its conclusion #it's like. wow. wonder why you're so focused on hypocrisy and you overreact to the word selfish #the reason they hate or fear orym (they say they don't...but that just means they want him to go to a reeducation camp instead of die) #is bc i think they are truly terrified of the idea that people can not just hold opinions that are against theirs but stand fast by them #easier to stan the villain because then they die and you can feel wronged and betrayed and wallow in a sense of continual victimhood #than to like a character who might last long enough to call you the idiot and asshole that you are #but it's also funny bc literally if orym weren't there in the latest convo the conclusion is the same. #ashton's had the same opinion of the vanguard the whole time (and it's not positive) but that's not under scrutiny #probably bc it doesn't allow people to be ghoulish in the most cringeworthy way possible

[princessdarth-vader]

i can't stop thinkng about kristen this episode. her kindness. her honesty. she sees a grieving man; a man she hates, a man who has wronged her and hurt her, a man who she would be well within her right to vow to destroy, to laugh at his pain. and she says "it's too sad not to tell him". she tells him the truth about what she knows. a hard truth, but a necessary truth. he doesn't believe her, but she tells him anyway, because she cares. because this is a world barely a step from hers.

she talks to her brother, and she doesn't try to make a grand gesture. she doesn't try to heroically convince him to turn away. she empathises, she's been there. she tells him she understands. and she meets his doubt with courage, with a hand to hold, with a lantern to light up the overwhelming darkness. she offers him the hand he needs when he's too afraid to ask for it.

she talk to jawbone. she sees how hard a time he's having, and she reaches out. she helps, and she tells him that her plan was to take advantage of him, but she couldn't go through with it. she's honest and kind and giving at every fucking turn, and she tries again and again and again.

it's in the way she would still reach out and try to reconnect with her parents, who let her down and betrayed her trust and innocence. The way she insisted that buddy be revived, and was hopeless when she could do nothing to help. for all her chaos and bits, kristen is one of the most heartfelt and genuine characters in dimension 20 and i fully fully believe that.

#fhjy spoilers #fhjy #kristen applebees #i keep thinking about ill pray #its the first song i wrote breaking my sorta year long dead patch of music #kristen applebees and her faith and devotion broke my intense writers block #and still “i'll pray to those who'll listen / and i'll pray to everyone still left” #“i'll pray til i don't need your permission / and i'll pray and i'll learn your name” is still some of the hardest lyrics ive done #sorry to turn this general ally beardsley appreciation into a personal blah board but its like #god kristen applebees is all faith and kindness and empathy and it terrifies the people who oppose her #how can you fight someone who looks at you and returns only kindness?

[littencloud9]

these two are the literal worst i love them 😭

#skk show some empathy challenge LMFOAKSOSNAK #bsd #bsd spoilers #soukoku

[playerkingsley]

thinking about that small moment between deanna and ashton (ashford) amidst all the chaos, the glimpse of recognition opposite the aeormaton they stumbled upon and cared for (in their own ways). how aabria mentioned she crafted different aspects of deanna to connect to each of bell’s hells: for ashton, coming back from death and finding a world slightly askew, rediscovering their place in it, and what remains of the frayed threads connecting them to it. to grappling with their relationship to power and “pay attention to who you want to be”

#tangential to her conversation with chetney and his line ‘out here in my own story it’s cool’ in terms of finding agency and challenging #preconceptions of purpose and identity in the wake of new powers. but never without empathy (per the context of the og conversation) #critical role #cr spoilers #just a small meandering thought. I’m sad the cross split guest relationships didn’t get more time but obviously a ten-pc table is #a BIT unwieldy. #deanna leimert #ashton greymoore