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thesweetnessofspring · 6 months
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Random thoughts about THG stage adaptation:
Will they make D12 (and D11) Southern with the accents and everything?
Are they gonna have Gale awkwardly stand on the stage and watch Everlark kiss? I might laugh depending on the staging. They gotta at least have Mrs Everdeen and Prim there too.
MADGE? MADGE? MADGE?
Imagining TV screens on the side of the stage to give us Caesar and Claudius's Capitol coverage of the Games while the Games happen on the stage.
REAL FIRE FOR COSTUMES???
POC Katniss, Gale, Haymitch at this point are a non-negotiable, right? *pointed look at director*
*tastes what we have so far, smacking lips* Needs more women in the creative team.
BREAD SCENE BREAD SCENE BREAD SCENE
CAVE SCENE CAVE SCENE CAVE SCENE
I want to see everyone's fancasts!!!! Also...possible Kit Connor as Peeta???? (no rumors of him being cast, just that since this adaptation is happening soon and he's the right age it's at least POSSIBLE) Idk girlies I did the fancast-campaign before and I've learned not to do that again and I wrote off all fancasting as just fun but like...we ARE gonna get a new cast! And understudies! AHHHHHH
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So I am just hearing there is a stage adaptation of THG happening....
Oh no. Oh no. Oh no no no no no.
Help help the numbers in my bank account are already trembling this thing isn't even set to be in the US yet. You all don't understand how far I will travel-
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zeglythofficial · 2 months
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Claps all around for library of zeglyth anonymous. I guess this day was bound to come, and I guess it has finally arrived. Now let me add my three Andrew Jacksons to the pile and be on my way.
About zeglyth: I think this one is tricky because it depends in why you came to the fandom in the first place. An anonymous post sent a few weeks ago did point out how prior to the movie adaptation, a large portion of THG fanbase did dislike the Snow prequel. They were supposedly expecting a Finnick or Haymitch prequel, which is further backed up by the reviews pre 2021 but it was the chemistry between Rach and T that truly propelled the novel's reexamining.
People who hated the book suddenly found themselves coming around to liking it more, which is a testament to acting and skill, and the two actors should be at least proud.
Now the controversial part: it also led to some people 'shipping' them. A rather normal and benign part of any fandom, if you’ve been in any fandom for any period of time. Several Anonymous’ have already provided countless examples. I do not need to reiterate.  This shipping didn’t just come out of nowhere but was very much built on the connection, no matter how tenuous it actually is between Lucy Gray and Coriolanus Snow in the novel. However, I’m also not going to deny that some people wanted Rachel to be with Tom but that contingent was/is rather small. Over all, from what I’ve observed most fans just liked their visual profile and emotional bond. Now you can argue that it was manufactured by Lionsgate and maybe it was.
Several posts did make pains to say it was indeed a studio marketing thing and at this stage I’m inclined to wave the white flag and agree. Maybe it was. Those who loved zeglyth fell for the Hollywood trick. Welcome to the real world. But Ill caveat this: you can still like the Tom and Rachel, you just have to remember, it’s a Hollywood snow job.
About J:  I think the outstanding attention we've been giving dude doesn’t match his online or offline presence. At the end of the day, he’s the bf, a partner. Our feelings notwithstanding, there is nothing we can do about it. He exists. She exists. Leave it as is. If she wants to make endless posts about him, it’s her prerogative. You don’t need to engage.
This blog: I’ll say this, the anonymous who runs this place has been very generous in allowing a variety of opinions, even opinions that many might disagree with. It’s what makes the place lively and keeps conversation flowing. And as library said, it can’t be easy keeping on top of anything. But I’ll end it here with Nick Caraway quote, there is no repeating the past.  What ever happened then has happened and maybe this is all a new beginning but if you are a zeglyth shipper, you can mourn and do what mourners do: move on.
I know I will, but not from Tom and Rachel’s careers. I’m curious where they’ll land in the future, and maybe that’s a good thing to hold onto.
Thank you for saying this! I agree :) @libraryofzeglyth is the best!
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caesarflickermans · 6 months
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What do you think about the way character appearance being portrayed or narrated in THG novels?
What's your opinion about THG movies casting? Especially Katniss' and The Seam residents casting?
Is it important that Seam and Merchant residents of District 12 have different appearance in the screen? Yes/No? Why?
What do you think about division /dynamics between Seam and Merchants in District 12?
Thank you :)
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This has been sitting in my ask box for months rip but the stage play has been announced so now I want to indulge despite the shame
What do you think about the way character appearance being portrayed or narrated in THG novels?
I liked the implications Collins left us with. The dynamic between the Seam and Merchants is our first introduction to the class markers in the story. Many people, me included, perceive those markers to denote race as well, that with Katniss describing a consistent "Seam look" which consists of black hair, grey eyes, and an olive skin tone. In contrast, Prim and Mrs. Everdeen look like they come from the Merchant class due to their light hair and blue eyes (THG, 1).
This reflects dynamics we have seen all throughout the world, but especially in the United States. Racial tensions leading to people living in separated areas, with the wealthier people being white, and those ostracised being people of colour.
I like the implication of Katniss having Indigenous roots. This ties to the oppression Indigenous peoples still face, with many having been shoved aside to make room for settlers to live prosperous lives on their lands. The Seam is exactly such a place all while it sits close to nature itself.
Katniss even mentions how people have become so distanced from nature that "a few brave souls sneak into the woods to harvest apples" (THG, 1). People who might otherwise have had a different relationship with nature have been entirely severed from it, taught to fear it and rather remain in the confined bounds of the place that does not grow anything.
Katniss ties to nature are, albeit common tropes, nonetheless an important symbol for her connection with nature: "I can feel the muscles in my face relaxing, my pace quickening as I climb the hills to our place, a rock ledge overlooking a valley [...] Gale says I never smile except in the woods." (THG, 1).
Nature is where Katniss turns to when she needs to survive. When her father dies in January, Katniss is left with weeks of starvation before she finds hope in Peeta's bread and the dandelion (THG, 2). The former symbolises heat, warmth, and most importantly: fire, while the latter is a sign of survival. Katniss can only survive in nature, with nature, living off of nature. I cannot help but think of the trail of tears and the reservations that have separated Indigenous peoples of America from their usual resources and brought them in environments that did not yield harvest nor where proper hunting grounds.
What's your opinion about THG movies casting? Especially Katniss' and The Seam residents casting?
All the racial tensions were gone in the movie, which is an immense pity. At the same time, this was 2011-or-so, where casting even a white female lead seemed revolutionary. I am looking forward to their stage play to see if we will get a brown Seam!
That said, I find it strange that the movies don't stick to at least all brown hair for the Seam. Woody is bald, so a brown wig would have been fine as well. Alas, that means that the Merchant-Seam divide is lost in book to movie transition.
Is it important that Seam and Merchant residents of District 12 have different appearance in the screen? Yes/No? Why?
It sure is. I find it an important means of showing how racisms will always exist in this world, and there's no way to deliver this better than actually having them look different enough to tell there is some kind of divide. Book to movie adaptions have always something lost in translation, so I'm interested if they will be more accurate in the stage play!
I don't buy that hair colour and green undertone is a markedly important enough factor to be able to differentiate between people. It only needs one brown-hair dominant gene hitting hard to ruin that logic for a large enough Merchant population to make it a redundant means of telling people apart.
I will also say this: There was a time in history where a certain demographic hated another demographic, but they looked very close in appearance that without a specific symbolism, you couldn't tell them apart. I'm saying, the Nazis needed specific symbols, be it the yellow star, the J in the passport or the name changes to accurately tell who is and who isn't Jewish. Coincidentally, you didn't have that "problem" in the United States where appearances were different enough. I wonder which one Collins was implying here, cause last I recall Katniss only ever referred to the appearance, not being called Seamniss Seamerdeen.
Now, I don't care for debates around this topic anymore, but let's just quickly go through them:
"Olive skin tone means tanned". It's literally a green undertone, that which everyone of any race can have, see the Wikipedia article denoting that this can range to brownish skin as well as the info graph in there.
"They put a white girl on the cover". And the girl has brown-to-black eyes, so it's clearly not an accurate representation anyhow. Beside the fact that I doubt Collins was talking with Scholastic on how their cover artist should do the cover.
"Collins said Katniss and Gale weren't intended to be biracial". A sentence later she also said there was a lot of ethnic mixing. Further down they mention it is a multi-racial society and that Collins did not see a specific ethnicity when she wrote Katniss and Gale. This includes white.
"The casting call only called for caucasian people so that means she was perceived as white by Collins". This was 2011-or-so where Hollywood was worried about white female lead movies underperforming. Clearly, this isn't the same case anymore today—see TBOSAS.
"But Collins said Jennifer Lawrence was the perfect Katniss (or something I don't remember the quote)". She said that Jennifer Lawrence can act well and that the way she acts embodies Katniss. She never specifically said "this is how I've pictured Katniss".
I read Katniss as brown and that's all I need for my own perception, no matter what some ignorant people are yelling at the top of their lungs, because no argument that I can bring forward is going to convince them. If someone's day is ruined because they see someone draw a brown Katniss, then that's on them.
What do you think about division /dynamics between Seam and Merchants in District 12?
I've already partially answered this one, but it is very important to understanding the way Katniss perceives herself and the world around her. The merchants are the first "enemy" we have who Katniss feels opposed to, only to learn that they aren't her enemy.
At the same time, of course, they inform the class struggles we know. The lack of interest in aiding those below you, and the ways poorer white people have abandoned their black/brown counterparts to advance their own standing in society. It shows the complicity one can have in racist structures without themselves being well off in comparison to higher classes.
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let's say you've been put in charge of a new thg adaptation, whether it's a new film series, a miniseries, or a tv show. you get complete creative control. what's one scene you would definitely make sure to include that did NOT make it into the movies?@anonymousinpanem
Omg don’t toy with me Anon. I have complete creative control? Three season show, one season per book, and it will be ridiculously faithful to the books.
You’re getting Madge and Delly don’t argue with me.
From the first book, a scene that’s going in and all dissenters will have the book thrown at their heads… Haymitch falling off the stage AND also falling into the puddle of his own vomit with Katniss and Peeta cleaning him up afterwards.
Peeta’s prosthetic and Katniss’s temporary hearing loss.
From Catching Fire, too much to pick from but for certain you get the entire sequence of Katniss running to the woods to escape wedding dresses, meeting Bonnie and Twill in the woods, the twisted ankle, someone else can get the stupid goat pregnant, all the way through Peeta carrying her up and down the stairs and then working on the plant book together DON’T TOUCH ME UNTIL I HAVE IT ON FILM.
Also from Catching Fire I will commit murder if anyone even suggests I cut the scene of Katniss and Finnick putting the medicine on their faces then waking Peeta up just to scare the shit out of him I need that more than I need air okay you don’t understand.
From Mockingjay… the pep team is being resurrected, imprisoned and tortured as they are in the books to bring that storyline back in, honest to god the way 13 treated them is like a massive red flag for the way that district operates so yep. As much fun as movie Effie may have been in 13, I’d give the prep team their significant role again.
Anyone who suggests not having Delly in 13 will be summarily fired.
Everything else stays too but those are the big ones.
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pyreshe · 1 year
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thg livvy brainrot hours but I think a Lot abt the very effective mask she, like many of the previous victors, have adapted to survive the capitol. the capitol citizens have never been able to see her (and they really dont WANT to see her) as anything more than the adorable, bubbly, endearing little girl who twirled on stage and kissed ceasar's cheek, and told the audience how much she always wanted a pretty dress like this. it's at such an extent that sometimes people seem to forget that her rise to fame involved surviving a death match where she beat several kids much older and stronger than her using sheer ruthlessness and vicious cunning and the ones that DO remember are under the impression she won due to sheer luck and capitol generosity.
around the capitol she makes a point of not just being bubbly and charming and animated, but most importantly, she plays dumb. she's not interested in politics or power struggles or anything like that. her biggest concerns are what she's wearing and the parties she will be attending that night and half the time she seems to have a foot out of reality.
the other victors, however, know better.
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porchwood · 7 years
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Gadge Day Reflections: My Journey with Gadge
This might be a bit of a rambling mess (I’m running on so much anxiety and so little sleep), but here goes:
I’m the kind of girl who sees romantic ships everywhere - the stray word, the slightly too-long look, the almost-unnoticed touch - and pounces on them. Which is why it’s rather painful to admit that I didn’t see Gadge as a ship till it started cropping up in the fanfics I read, and even then I didn’t understand where the pairing had come from. (This was circa 2012, by the bye. All three books were out and the THG movie was in theaters.) I remember wondering at one point why people would ever put Madge and Gale together and being mortified that Madge bringing the morphling after Gale was whipped hadn’t given me proper shipper pause. It wasn’t so much that I’d overlooked the scene or its significance; rather, I identify strongly with Katniss and she hated the implication (made by Haymitch, who I’ve never been able to stand) that something might be going on between Gale and Madge, and somewhere between that and the wretched post-whipping Galeniss, the notion of any sort of relationship between Gale and Madge vanished like wisps of vapor. After all, Madge was Katniss’s friend, so it made sense (to me at the time) that she would make a courageous gesture to help Katniss by helping Gale.
At this point in my little shipper head, Gale was little more than an obstacle to Everlark, especially since I was still in that purist “T-rated canon post-MJ fics only” stage, which meant at the very best, Madge might show up in Katniss’s nightmares. My very first fic - which started as a joke with my sister and quickly turned into a legitimate premise - was Something Good: a gender-reversed (canon post-MJ) Everlark story loosely based on The Sound of Music - naturally, with no Madge whatsoever and Baroness!Gale as a major obstacle.
And just before I could post the first chapter of that fic, in a twist that even I couldn’t have predicted, I was unexpectedly, abruptly, intensely inspired to write an Everlark version of “East of the Sun and West of the Moon.”
“What has this to do with Gadge?” you may ask. For starters, it was the first time I had to be a grown-up and write Gale (in spite of my feelings) as Katniss’s friend, however briefly, as they part in the woods in Ch 2. And then I wanted Madge to come over and say goodbye in Ch 3, which meant that someone had to go and tell her that Katniss was leaving. And that’s where all the trouble started. ;)
Gadge exited Stage Left of the WtMiverse at that point (some four years ago) but they were still dancing around the fringes of my fics, for those with eyes to see. I’d discovered a passionate fondness for AU!Gale, who was easy to make a relative of Katniss and therefore no longer an obstacle-to-Everlark, so I had no trouble writing said Gales as attractive and deeply fascinating (i.e., the gamekeeper cousin in The Threshing Floor and Eomer!Galen in The Steward and the Bow-Maiden), but of equal importance, I think, was the fact that I was starting to envision and even imply Gadge relationships on the fringes of those fics. In Threshing Floor Haymitch accuses Peeta of never noticing Wessex girls till Katniss showed up in the field and makes a special note of “Viscount Undersee’s girl [riding] across your field in her petticoat at Midsummer,” which I always assumed was something to do with Hawthorne the gamekeeper (be it to impress him, get his attention, or meet him for a lover’s tryst), but as I never went back to write the epilogue I’d intended, the question was never answered. Bow-Maiden was supposed to have an epilogue too (”The Bride of Ithilien”), in which a Tolkienesque wedding night would be preceded by Eowyn!Katniss receiving new bride counsel from Queen Anniwen and - guess who? - Madriniel, princess of Dol Amroth and new wife of Eomer!Gale. (Heck, somewhere in there I was determined to write my own version of Marion Chesney’s delightful Six Sisters series, in which Regency era social divide!Gadge was very much on the docket, particularly as Madge would be the only one with prospects for a decent society marriage!)
And then a whole dump-truck of very bad life stuff happened to me (there’s no other way to say it :/) and all things writing fell away for a very long time. I managed to produce a little more WtM from the mire but trying to write anything at all was like trying to walk on a broken leg. (It still is, for the majority of the time. :( The prolific enthusiasm has never come back.) But some way, somehow, from the depths of that morass, I got an impulse to write Six Months to Strawberry Time, or rather, what I thought would be the entirety of the fic: one quick spiky Gadge oneshot to show Madge becoming Gale’s hunting partner (something I’d intended for the WtMiverse almost from the beginning but which wasn’t supposed to come up till Everlark visited the district in spring, by which time Gadge might also be in a romantic relationship...). 
I felt pretty good about the oneshot (for so I thought it would remain) and figured I’d leave the fic in-progress in case other quick oneshot-esque chapters presented themselves...and then this July, as I was trying desperately to work on Honey-God (and binging on adaptations of Jane Eyre, for which we might be partially able to blame my roommate), Strawberry Time suddenly roared to the forefront of my mind in thorough, lavish detail and demanded to be written. Which put me in an awkward place all around, but these were the only words that had come to me in many months and so of course, I had to chase them.
Three months later Strawberry Time is sitting at just under 40,000 words (and counting), and I can only be grateful to the Gadge devotees for letting me crash their party so late in the game and apologetic to my Everlark readers, to whom this fic (and especially my Gadge Day queue) must feel like a massive betrayal. I most assuredly didn’t plan to start a massive multi-chapter Gadge fic but I’m curiously glad that I have - in part to finally explore these characters and their dynamic (and let me tell you, having to write Gale honestly telling Madge about his feelings for Katniss was hard as nails) but also because opening the door in the other direction - into Twelve rather than the woods - has provided a delicious opportunity to follow all the parallel rabbit trails, from Primko’s windowsill courtship to Rooba’s mythical bacon buns. Strawberry Time has already given me opportunities to drop hints about future (and significant past) stuff in the WtMiverse that would never have fit into WtM itself, and of course we’ll soon have Gadge kisses (and very possibly Gadge smut ;D) as the icing on the strawberry cake.
Will I ever write Gadge outside of the WtMiverse (ex. Jane Eyre, Beauty and the Beast)? I truly have no idea. Depression is relentless and brutal, and I had to claw my way to the surface just to produce this Gadge Day queue. But Gadge presents a delicious dynamic all their own (as do Marko/Prim and Jack/Raisa, if you’re me :D) and once they’re a part of your shipping lineup, you start getting besieged by plot bunnies you would never previously have thought twice about - bunnies that could be made to serve other pairings but into which the perfect pairing fits like a key in a well-oiled lock. Which gets you wondering if maybe you should start spending more time with that pairing that fits so well into all these wonderful plots...
I know this isn’t really a “why I ship Gadge” piece - I tried to write one such and this is what came out, and I’m far too tired to try again - but I really hope it will suffice, if for no other reason than to begin to explain to folks following me why I crawled out of my dark hole and spent an insane amount of hours tagging and scheduling over 100 Gadge-centric posts for the blog I haven’t worked on in many months. Thanks for letting me ramble. *hugs*
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thesweetnessofspring · 6 months
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Suzanne's statement on the stage adaptation: "I'm very excited to be collaborating with the amazing team of Conor McPherson and Matthew Dunster as they bring their dynamic and innovative interpretation of The Hunger Games to the London stage."
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thesweetnessofspring · 6 months
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No but if Madge isn't in the stage adaptation I will SCREAM.
In theatre it is very common for one actor to play two minor roles in the show. The actor playing Madge could double as Glimmer! They're never on stage together so it would work out. There is literally no reason not to include her in the stage adaptation.
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thesweetnessofspring · 3 months
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Very much want to preface and say this is all ENTIRELY my own speculation on the back of some fancasting. That said...
I was catching up watching MickeyJoTheatre on YouTube. He's a theatre reviewer/influencer who is based in London and mainly follows West End productions. He posted an video on December 7 about Joe Locke (Charlie in Heartstopper) coming into the Broadway production of Sweeney Todd and at around the 10:40 mark he mentions that of the two leads in Heartstopper, he expected Kit Conner to get "a really big theatre role" first due to his name frequently being in the press AND because Mickey has heard rumors that Kit's name may be attached to some productions in development.
Now I'm interested in theatre but I am by no means keeping up with all productions going on over in London. All I know is that this video was made after THG stage adaptation was announced and a big West End reviewer is saying Kit Conner's name is being rumored to be attached to some theatre productions. A lot can happen with casting but I don't think it's a stretch to think Kit Conner is at least being considered for the role of Peeta in the stage adaptation in London this fall.
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thesweetnessofspring · 6 months
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ALSO I just want to say: anyone who can't or chooses not to go to London to watch THG stage adaptation is no less of a fan than those who do go! There are a lot of barriers when it comes to theatre. This will only be taking place in one location in the entire world (as of now) and even if you live near London, tickets to the theatre are incredibly expensive!! On top of that people have family and employment obligations, health challenges. And maybe even with the funds/ability, it's too much of a commitment to maybe be disappointed in how it turns out. There could be a lot of reasons why not going is the right choice for you, and that's okay.
So yeah, this isn't a barrier entry test into fandom or a way to win a gold star or anything.
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thesweetnessofspring · 3 months
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I'm sorry hi what do you mean by stage adaption in London this fall???👀👀👀
Well, just like it says. The Hunger Games is going to have a stage adaptation in London in fall 2024. Here's an article with everything we know so far and here is the official website.
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thesweetnessofspring · 3 months
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I am definitely using the timeline of Hadestown West End to calculate when to roughly expect updates on THG stage adaptation. It will likely mislead me but I'm just trying to prepare myself.
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thesweetnessofspring · 5 months
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London, Fall 2024.
You best believe I'm hitting up THG stage adaptation and the West End Hadestown.
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thesweetnessofspring · 2 months
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Do you think I would like Hadestown if I like THG?
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I, self-proclaimed mayor of HungerTown, am not exactly unbiased here though. 😅
I can only think of two reasons why a THG fan wouldn't also like Hadestown:
One of those people who don't like musicals (I'm so sorry for your loss). Even here my love for Hadestown is so deep I'm convinced it could change a few of those minds. It's not show tuney, it's sung all the way through, and the music is simply amazing.
Can't do tragedies. I know THG is dark and a lot of tragedy happens, but with Everlark getting together and Katniss healing as much as she can, there's still some happiness and peace in the end. Hadestown is still hopeful but it follows the Orpheus/Eurydice tragedy and some people can't handle it.
Unless you find yourself in either of these groups, listen to it!! The whole thing is sung through so you can easily follow the plot listening to the cast recording and there are slime tutorials (illegal recordings) on YouTube if you can't get to a theatre. And I'm always more than happy to talk about Hadestown if you want to know anything else.
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