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#to be sth it wasnt meant to in canon but what the fandom wants it to be. i dont rly like this kind of shipping
portokali · 2 years
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there is. definitely a lot to be said about the merits of having the ability to turn off Shipper Brain Mode and enjoy a story without ever demanding a ship be canon or even shipping any of the characters. however there is something about a hint or a promise of romance in works that aren’t explicitly romantic that makes them somehow more tantalizing and interesting. anyway this post is about james and erin derrygirls where i had 0 expectations of their feelings ever being confirmed and simply entertained the idea of them as a what-if-james-likes-erin-lol on a completely different tab that was left open in my brain but when it Was confirmed in s3 and the way it was left unfulfilled but all the same promised absolutely has done numbers to my brain chemistry like the small and tender crushes of two kids living ordinary lives under extraordinary circumstances. something about that yeah.
#like sometimes i feel a lot of Shipping is all abt for the sake of shipping and so u can project a Whatever romantic ideal#which often has nothing to do w the characters presented on screen (or on page etc ykwim) and more abt fandom building a fanon around t#the ship and making it all abt coffeeshop college aus etc... like its more abt inside consumption and deformation of the original ship#to be sth it wasnt meant to in canon but what the fandom wants it to be. i dont rly like this kind of shipping#BUT when i see two blorbos and their love is real it touches my soul...... blease understand#like im SO HAPPY w how little screentime their romance actually takes up its EXACTLY as much as i needed in a story out of derry girls#any more wouldve been too much cause honestly theyre all just losers who dont pull and the story is abt friendship and coming of age anyway#but also..... the jerin story so so good and important to me fr.#no bad tracks. the way it happens so quietly and you can pick their feelings up by SQUINTING? impeccable#the way HE is whipped for HER (a must in a het relationship) but absolutely sees right through her bs and keeps it real always#the way james absolutely Knows and Sees erin for all of her and still oh god oh shit#disintegrating to my bare essentials im gone#cause erin diary girl erin erin the author erin the writer and james you should write that down derrygirl james my best friend james#the i can wait........ like literally so mature of them to realise theyre not mature enough yet but YET theres potential for sth#that they cant just fuck up w their teen bullshit!!!!!1GOSH. FABULOUS!!!!!!#AND the way everyone's parents mirrored the girls in the flashback episode and now erin and james seem to rather grow to be similar to#erin's parents aka a loving marriage and relationship that endured objectively A Lot and provided shelter n family not only to their kids#but also officially unofficially james too james who never knew his dad james whose ma kinda umm doesnt love him. lets be honest.#like theres n o reason for me to be losting my shit so mcuh over them except there IS.#except i am!#the fact that their ship name is jerin? erin with a j?? an absolute w for j community on top of everything#no bad tracks im telling you#the quiet tender kind of love that short of develops as a bytheway as an aside to the main story#as an of course id have a crush on you. of course it would happen. of course it's not going to be the main story#its not the end of it either its not even the beginning not really#you know im such a fool for you....... but now im feeling it even more......... etc#jerin#derry girls#derry girls spoilers
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No no wait, delete my previous ask 😄 You've already answered
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Hi!! :D
Thank you for the ask!!!
B - A pairing–platonic, romantic or sexual–that you initially didn’t consider, but someone changed your mind.
well if we arent strict on the someone part (one person i could pinpoint) changing my mind - ill say wolfstar. i wasnt shipping them initially when i first entered the fandom (tho it wasnt the english speaking fandom on tumblr or ff.net) and now its my whole personality. i had no idea it exists, or that its even a possibility to ship 2 men together (I was 12 with no critical thinking skills. i knew gay ppl exist but i didnt know its something that can exist in fiction too i guess?) and all the fics there were included sirius x marlene or sirius x dorcas. and one day i completely randomly stumbled upon this ship. and now, after all this time, im here.
aside from that - probably most ships that im into now that arent wolfstar - wolfstarbucks, wolfbucks, prongsfoot, lilypad and jilypad. I cant pinpoint who exactly introduced me to which ship tho - I just know that people in the fandom that I follow talk about those ships and i was like, i see the vision. similar thing in the case of non-marauders ships like Cedric, Fleur/Bill/Tonks or Fleur/Tonks - but here its more like, i dont really care about anyone thats not S or R and thats why i didnt consider any of those ships initially (but I've always liked Tonks).
idk if that counts but somebody (i wont say who. but in this case i can tell who that was) said they canNOT see remus x lily (or they could but it would be disaster for everyone) and that made me realise I could get into that ship too. so ill put it on the list <3
D - A pairing you wish you liked but just can’t.
I mentioned a couple times I ship prongsfoot, but what I meant is I see why people ship them, and I ship them when in polyships I mentioned, and I do consider Sirius being in love with James (so, unrequired prongsfoot) in most concepts/storylines - but i wish I could get fully into the actual ship bc i feel like this part of the fandom writes them more in characters, and is generally a nice place to be. But I also saw some ppl talk about prongsfoot and james cheating on lily or sth and i know i wont get into that (cheating just squicks me out i guess?)
(this kinda goes for most of my ships that arent my OTP, I think? I like them, but im not into them enought to consider them my OTPs and sometimes I wish I did)
Also femslash ships. I wish I was more into them, and I dont want to excuse or justify why i dont like many femslash ships (there is so much discourse in many fandoms about it and i really dont want to do that). Im just not into them that much - i like them, but i dont read or write just about them, and I wish I did (maybe I will someday). In the case of the marauders fandom - Im not into dorlene or marylily bc those characters (sans Lily) are basically fandom's OCs (and I love that the fandom looked at those characters that were mentioned once in the books and made them quite interesting too. but I dont really care about them bc they are neither S or R and also there is no canon of them for me to fall back to)
K - What character has your favorite development arc/the best development arc?
Why are you making me think critically about my blorbos on saturday afternoon </3
I cant pick a fav but im also not going to write an essay on each one
When I did a presentation about my fav ships I mentioned that I loved Steve Roger's arc in his first movie bc he went from "I dont want to kill anyone. I want to fight nazis bc I dont like bullies - I dont care where they come from" to "I'm not going to stop till all of Hydra is dead or captured" after he lost Bucky </3 (but thats just the first movie. and i still pretend endgame didnt happen. so) (also ive read metas that steve's arc was tied to saving/loosing bucky, and i love that from the shipping perspective)
Everyone in the Stranger Things fandom loves Steve Harrington's arc - he went from a background asshole jock to a heroic babysitter working minimum wage whose best friend is a lesbian - and now that he's a fan's favourite he's also most likely to die in the last season
I also read some posts/metas about Remus's arc and his nonlinear healing and learning to take on responsibility and I dont like most elements that his arc consists off but I do find it very interesting.
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fellhellion · 3 years
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ok so i dont remember what naoto exactly *does* post-p4g but detectives can also work seperate from the police iirc? like being a private eye, essentially. a private investigator? or sth. naoto's previous work as a detective with the police, plus him not being the only detective of his family and thus having some sort of reputation to be able to fall back on, could work out for him to go down this path. im not sure if thats a preferred headcanon in fandom though, but that possible path for naoto makes me not want to like, give him much flack for the whole detective thing. although, like i said, idk what naoto does post p4g nor do i think atlus will ever think of police = bad sincerely enough to think of something like that, so yeah... i'd rather say chie, and naoto for working adjacent to the police, are kind of victims of atlus's shitty writing, but that's not surprising, considering uhh.. *points at all of persona 4*
oh yeah nah that post wasnt meant to be like HATE THE WRITING OF THIS FICTIONAL CHARACTER INSTEAD OF THAT ONE, i think like u said the decisions characters make in regards to the police are more just. reflective of some of the more conservative stances atlus takess. 
re canon tho, i think it’s kind of undefined as to what the specifics are of the shirogane family profession. As in whether they’re more like private eyes who work heavily w the police, or ‘proper’ police detectives.I think it’s supposed to be the former tho since naoto is legally carrying around a gun at like. fifteen dfjkhsdjk but the police seem to talk about naoto as if he’san indepdent but reccomended force they dont have much jurisdiction over? 
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morleybell · 7 years
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When did you start shipping Bellarke? Oh and what made you join the Bellarke fandom? :)
oh god! this is really cool question and i have ‘great’ story for that.
So 4 years ago I’ve been in tvd/klaroline fandom. Basically the only reason i started being more active on tumblr/twitter was klaroline back then and it was the worst because back then Joseph went to The Originals and everyone was saying it’s “the end of klaroline”. and then we were getting like one scene per season (sex scene in s5 or phone call or idn a scene where klaus heard caroline’s name) and it sucked so badly and i was in pain all the time so i decided to find a new show and new ship, that is canon and isn’t painful as klaroline is.
that’s how i met bellarke. huh, funny right?
(i HAVE TO mention that i suck at picking ships, i shipped stelena and i loved them SO much so u can imagine in how much pain i was in tvd fandom)
it was back during s1, it was sth like ep 6 airing back then. anyway, in the 100 tag everywhere was only bellarke, nothing else. and i was SO SURE they are canon/going to be canon because well. that’s what tumblr really told me?
the first gif - and the gif that made me watch the show - was gif of bellamy looking at clarke in 1x03 (the scene where she kills Atom - but back then for sure i had no idea what it was about). So really, who looks at girl like that, why it’s being recorded like that, if not for making them canon soon right?
so i’ve watched the eps and i was sold back then but i wasn’t really *into it*. I wasn’t making gifs back then, or reading metas/fanfictions, wasn’t making videos or anything for the fandom. after the ep i was just reblogging gifs that’s how it all started.
then i remember during s2 finn died and i was - a little i guess - mad because that meant that bellarke wont be together cause clarke had to heal after finn’s situation. and then like 4 eps later clarke was kissing L and i was like??? am i the only person who is confused why. n i went to tumblr n i saw already how fandom is divided and i was so mad because.. i thought that most of the ppl prefer CL back then n BC fandom moved or sth.
so obv i was mad because in tvd i was in Stelena fandom (n not in DE) which sucked because most of ppl were DE. n i felt like im reliving it.
but then 2x16 aired and i was happy n 100% sure in s3 we getting bellarke.
i wasnt here again during hiatus between s2-s3 (i heard that it was terrible, yes) and like month before s3 i watched SDCC panel n i was so confused??? cast hates bellarke??? why do they act like they dont exsist???
(really! i was back then casual viewer who only reblogged gifs after the episode, that was all n i was so confused back then what is happening with jr/cast. - i aslo saw the vid where jr left the room after bc q)
then i started watching s3 and i know 3x02 happened and i messaged my first bellarke-friend here nikola. I was so mad that “im in losing team” n all of it motivated me to do something more for fandom n being active. AS FUNNY AS IT SOUNDS. drama, fight, everything bad what happened in s3, bob getting hate - all of that. made me join the bellarke fandom. all of that motivated me to do sth for our fandom - so i learnt how to make gifs, how to make videos, appreciation days, started new blogs, joined new blogs, started update accounts, trends etc. the only reason i started being active on twitter was because i wanted to promote the show, to make sure we get next season n to protect bob. baaa, the only reason our fandom has now infobellarke is because of how tired n sad n depressed n pissed i was in s3. it motivated me, yes.
not saying that im thankful for s3, cause well. never. it was pain n fight every fucking day n i was SO TIRED. but thanks to this, ive met amazing people in our fandom and whats the most important - i “got to know” (at some point obv) bob which i will be forever thankful because he helped me a lot.
(im so so so sorry for this long answer)
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