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Hobie Brown, Emotional Preparation, and the Art of Great Dialogue

Nearly all of Hobie's dialogue is written with his goal - protecting and preparing Miles for Miguel's abuse - in mind, even if it may not be obvious at first watch.

Here's an unhinged breakdown where I over-analyze literally every one of Hobie’s lines and explain how every sentence was written to contribute directly to Miles’ radicalization.

Hollywood. Pay your writers. (:

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Hobie has around 10 minutes screentime total, but for the sake of introductions and this analysis, let's start at the end of the battle, and the beginning of the quantum hole.

Starting with his first line in the scene:

"I don't follow orders. Neither does he."

All morals considered, Hobie doesn't seem like the type to speak for someone who can speak for themselves - he's a punk after all. But here, he speaks for Miles. This line serves to tell Miles 'I don't respect them, why should you?', but funnily enough, it can also be a point to Jess, as if to say 'Miles isn't interested.' - even if he is.

"Bit much, innit?"

While, Hobie and Mile's next interaction is their exchange in the elevator, the scene leads to Mile's introduction to the Society. Miles gawks at the lobby, obviously impressed. Gwen affirms this awe, telling him 'this is just the lobby.' However, Hobie feels the need to chime in. His next dialogue 'Bit much, innit?' is a subtle nudge to Miles that the society is not a place to be in awe off. It's a spectacle, one that's a bit overdone. Knowing Miles now sees Hobie as cool, Hobie makes it known - he sees the Society as uncool.

"Gwendy, How much have you told him? About his place in all this? Maybe not enough."

'So what happened about that small elite strike-team?' - 'Most of these are part time.' This is by far one of Hobie's more interesting lines, and I wrote about it here. But in short, this is Hobie's soft but direct confrontation of Gwen. After Gwen lies to Miles in front of him, Hobie immediately asks how much Gwen has revealed to him. And when she tries to play it off, he openly says 'Maybe that's not enough.' He's not angry with Gwen, but he is disappointed, which in turn motivates him to have his discussion with Miles.

"Super humane, and not creepy."

One of my favorites, because it's hard to catch and to the point. After talking about Hobie and Gwen's mission history, they're taken to Margo and the control room. As Miles marvels at Margo and the Go-Home-Machine, and Gwen says she voted against it. However, Hobie says blatantly: 'Holy shit, Miles isn't this inhumane and weird???', validating that the Society is willing to do inhumane, hurtful stuff to those it deems 'misplaced'.

Next comes Hobie's confrontation with Miles.

Because Hobie knows this is his last movements with Miles before he meets Miguel, and this is where if final push of emotional support kicks in, before he goes quiet in front of Miguel.

And because this conversation is so well layered, I think it's best to go line by line. ______________________________

H: "Bet this doesn't even do anything." M: "Maybe it did before you ripped it out of a wall!"

Hobie has now confirmed that he'll be making an exit soon. And he begins his finally sweep of parts he needs for his watch, stocking up his pockets. He's not stealing to steal. He knows he's leaving and this is his last chance to get what he needs before he's out the door.

"Propaganda, bro! It's to distract you from the truth!"

HOLY SHIT I missed this one. Notice how in this shot, Gwen is not visible at all. Hobie notices they're out of hershot of her for the first time. And his first line is - 'Propaganda.' Their watches can take them anywhere. When Gwen needed to, she was taken to exactly where she needed in Mumbattan. But when they're heading towards HQ, Jessica makes them walk through the lobby. They could have been sent directly to Miguel's station, but instead she makes them do the whole tour, which serves as a flex of muscle. In order, Miles was shown the massive number of members in the Society, then their prisoners, then the go-home-machine. Only THEN can they see Miguel. All of which was intent to intimidate Miles on purpose. Hobie tells him directly: 'Everything you just saw was propaganda.'

M: And what's that?

"I ain't got a Scooby Doo, mate. Cause that's what they want."

One of the most iconic and notable of his quotes. Cockney aside, this line ties back in with his discussion with Gwen just a couple minutes before. They've done their tour and walk. Both Jess and Gwen have been given a chance to prime or explain to Miles anything, and both have chosen not to. So Hobie simply tells him, 'They want you in the dark. And they're sending you into a fight.'

The next line is:

H: Why do you want to be part of this lot? M: To get a watch. H: Make your own watch.

Miles sucks his teeth at Hobie.

Because of this - Hobie begins to change methods. Which I cannot stress is incredibly perceptive of him.

Miles is exasperated with him. So instead of dissuasion and making the society out to be uncool, he tries to turn Miles' attention towards his family.

"Bet you got a nice setup, huh? Nice parents?"

This line is a very well done one, with two things of notice. First, I find it interesting that the screenplay phrases this line as a question, not a sentence. Hobie is asking. He's taking a shot in the dark here. And this is backed up by his delivery; Hobie hesitates while saying this. The only line in which he does so. He may not know about Miles' mom and dad, because Gwen hadn't met them when she met Hobie. But still, Hobie asks, hoping the reminder of Miles' parents will dissuade him from continuing.

M: They're fine. H: [After this line, Hobie turns black and white momentarily. Potentially a nod to the fact that this conversation is the only 'black and white' one Miles has had so far.] M: But we got into a fight. They just want what's best for me, so...

[Hobie frowns. The scene and dialogue REALLY starts to pick-up from here.]

"That's a bloody shame. Because you're not ready for everyone else."

As the scene progresses Hobie goes from behind Miles, to beside him like an ally. Then, when Gwen finally comes back into frame, Hobie crosses in front of him. When Miles mentions his parents wanting what's best for him, Hobie warns that everyone else does not want what's best for him. At the same time, visually Gwen has her back to Miles, and Hobie puts himself between Miles and Gwen, trying to block his path. The scene is set up to show that in Hobie's eyes, Gwen is turning her back on Miles. She does not have his best interest in mind. Hobie is telling Miles 'They're using propaganda on you, they're keeping you in the dark, and they do not have your best interest at mind. You're not ready for this." And he physically tries to block Miles from continuing, one last time.

Miles goes through Hobie, and now within earshot of Gwen again, this is Hobie's final chance and push to get as much information into Miles as he can - without freaking Miles out. Above all else, he needs Miles to be prepared, confident, and willing to fight back.

His voice becomes more serious, and he starts speaking more straight-forward and a lot less cryptically.

"Listen to me, bruv. The whole point of being Spider-man is your independence. Being your own boss, you don't need all this!"

I think Hobie saying this reveals a lot about his character, especially understanding the context where he's from. While many Spider-men would agree that being Spider-man is about responsibility and power - to Hobie, it is about independence, and freedom. Hobie is a freedom fighter, and one of the only Spider-men besides Noir that knows how to fight systemic threats as well as physical ones. To him, being Spiderman is about being able to free yourself and others. It's about independence and freedom, and he's trying to nail that in Miles' head one last time.

M: Then why are you here?

"Looking out for my drummer, is all."

As the scene is coming to a close, the writers chose this time to reveal some of Hobie's motivations, starting with the independence comment, and now this. Despite knowing about Gwen's deception towards Miles, he is still looking out for her - and Miles. This is the writers' and Hobie's last push to solidify himself as an ally to Miles and the viewer.

M: I want to be in a band. I want to see my friends, and I need a watch to do that. G: Guys, come on.

"Alright, Squashed. Just don't enlist until you know about who you're fighting."

I genuinely had to sit and ask myself why the writers would choose to leave Hobie's collective effort - a LOT of effort - with this line. And honestly, I think it's a perfect segway. Hobie chooses his words very clearly; He doesn't say 'what', he says 'who'. The next scene leads into Miguel's intro, and up until this point, Miles doesn't know who he is. He only knows about the Society, but never who is at the top. We know about Miguel, but all Miles knows is his name. That's why Hobie says 'who you're fighting'. Because the Society isn't really a Society, and this isn't really between Miles and the Society at all. It's a dictatorship - and the person he's enlisting to fight is Miguel. The perfect introduction and warning to the person he's about to meet. He's telling Miles, 'Don't rush into it. Wait until you meet Miguel first'. And when Miles does meet Miguel, he finally sees that this isn't the place he thought it was, just like Hobie said. ALSO EVEN MORE INTERESTINGLY - THIS is one of the lines that is changed between the two versions of spiderverse (there are two theatrical versions on release.) In the alternative he says 'Don't enlist unless you know what war you're fighting.' And I think that the fact the writers chose to publish two different versions of this line goes to show how powerful they knew this line would be in Miles' characterization. There is so much Hobie has left to say to him, but only one line - and so we get two versions. How fun!

With the scene now over, we see a change in Hobie's demeanor, and I love the writers' choice to have the shot linger on Hobie.

We see him give Miles a look that isn't exactly full of confidence, but from this point forward, Hobie chooses to hang back, no longer having any motivation to instigate. He knows his work here is done, and now all he can really do is wait for Miguel to reveal his true colors, and hope that he got through enough to Miles that he will react, and fight back.

And closing out the scene - I noticed that when Peter B. arrives Hobie pointedly says

"Oh boy, Humbling Reality Spider-man has arrived."

All I'll say about this is Hobie has to be Jamaican cause that was so mfing rude shgjfkghjgjkdfjk

Hobie has about three lines between this point and then end of his screentime - Two of which were his lines to Mayday, and his comment during the canon events.

But there is one shot of him before it all happens. And after this shot the movie begins staging Hobie in specific a very different way than anyone else.

The moment begins with Miles' line 'My Dad is about to be captain.'

The camera pans to each character. Gwen, Peter, and Jess all avert their eyes. Miguel looks at Miles. And Hobie is the only one who looks at all of them. Instead of looking down, he looks to the others, in anticipation of whats going to happen. It's also important to note that this was probably news to Hobie. He probably didn't know Miles' dad was a cop - or at the very least going to be captain. So the understanding of just how much trouble Miles is in kinda multiplies in this moment.

Then, this happens

From this point forward, every time Hobie is portrayed, he is shown as separate from the other characters, always being divided from the group - with Miles as the divider. Even as the camera moves, Hobie visually remains - quite literally - as the only person in Miles' corner. And as the scene goes on, he moves farther and farther into that corner.

Until finally the scene comes to a climax, and Hobie gets two shots to himself - delivering his final lines.

"Here we go." - "Hobie, You're not helping." - "Good."

GUYS IM GONNA CRY OKAY IM GONNA CRY

This is Hobie seeing his work pay off. This is him knowing that he got through to Miles and that it was worth it. He's proud of him.

Hobie knew what he came to do, and he used literally every line he said to Miles to the FULLEST extent. He doesn't give a fuck if he's not helping the Society. He's helping Miles. And now he knows his work is done.

Being a punk is not about being a hero, it's about empowering those who feel powerless. HE UNDERSTOOD THE MOTHERFUCKING ASSIGNMENT.

IN SHORT - HOLLYWOOD PAY YOUR FUCKING WRITERS I SWEAR TO GOD.

if you read this far let me know :) thanks bye

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April, discovering an entire Hidden City beneath NYC and going up against a fish-man making, warring warrior scientist:

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from aj to you How picky is Apollo with food? What will and won't he eat?

Oof! This was from a while back but I'm always happy to help and answer questions! I'm going to try to be sure to answer these asks a lot more frequently.

Apollo in my head is a picky eater, at least early in his life. Oskar had him on diet of fast food and whatever unhealthy drinks you can get your hands on due to being on the road (Also not being able to cook). Though it's not like Oskar is a healthy eater and never was a good role model.

I like to think that Phoebe has way better eating habits and her family likes to have variety and family dinners if possible. The all-American family to Apollo's trailer park trash ya' know? So staying with them was more of struggle for his pallet but know as he is older, he probably won't turn down a meal but doesn't want to eat at the table as a family.

Though when in doubt, order Doordash.

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Fanfiction sneak peak

*Cracks open vault*

Okay, I was going through older stuff I was writing for TOM Future Au a while back and found this gem in the hundreds of google docs I have of stories I've never posted. So, I've decided to post this one as a sneak peek! I hope everyone enjoys!

Kings Court (Lars, Dagon, Raza, and Pavo) belongs to @kururu418

Plus @thepaladincosplays for good measures and safety reasons

#callyieverse #tales of mewni #charlotte #rowan #Posie #Lars #Dagon #Raza #My tall king #Pavo #Sneak Peak #Fanfiction #Future Au #It's been years since I wrote so I'm trying to get back in the grove of things!

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The babies

The second youngest of Lady Helena's children, Seto is a bit of a nerdy boy with a penchant for trying to get any modicum of approval from his mother, however futile it seems to be at times. Out of all the siblings he's the only who usually gets bullied but often finds a way to escape his bullies before things can get too harsh. He's a tad envious of his older sister Virginia and younger sister Nina, since both get more positive attention from their mother than he does no matter how hard he tries.

The youngest of Lady Helena's children, Nina is a happy-go-lucky young girl and the most innocent of her siblings. Spoiled by her mother and the majordomo of Foster Manor, Forsythe, Nina's never wanted for anything in her life for long. Her and her mother are inseparable whenever they're together, and Nina's spent most of her childhood attached to her mother's hip, learning the ins and outs of her mother's business, getting help from her mother with her homework (something Helena has never done for her other children), and admiring her mother every step of the way.

Another wonderful set of commissions by @harchibudytgorichi! Up next is Lady Helena herself, so stay tuned!

#the fosters #nina foster #seto foster #commission #Awwwwwww bby #i would add emoji's but im on my computer

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The cruel and monstrous mother of her seven children, Lady Helena Foster is the matriarch of the Foster family and the CEO and founder of the Angelicorporation. Her long time alive has been spent well, working in the shadows for decades to succeed in her carefully thought out plans. Not many know the true nature of such a horrible woman, and thus with her beauty and years of acting as a charitable and kind woman she's seen by the public as an angel. But to all but one of her children, she's seen for what she truly is. It doesn't matter to Lady Helena, however. With all the money in the world and time on her side, she's had more than enough time to prepare for her goal.

Another wonderful commission by @harchibudytgorichi!

As stated in previous posts, Lady Helena's bio is linked! Before reading it, here's some general content warnings before reading:

Lady Helena's bio contains: implied cannibalism, and child abuse. Keep in mind, she's written to be actively hated. Not every bit of evil she's done has been written in her bio for the sake of not making it overtly longer than it already is.

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Pick two of your characters. If they were in Avatar, what kind of bender would they be and what fighting style would they have?

Okay I'll give this a shot!

Theodosia reads like an airbender. Light on her feet, flowy and always tries to find the good in individuals. I feel like Wushu would fit her best. The style requires a lot of flexibility and discipline that she would subject herself to.

And the Saoirse is definitely an earthbender. Stong, hard-hitting and evolving. I can't exactly what style by name, but she definitely waits for her opponent to attack first and doesn't enjoy playing with her food. She rather takes you out, so she moves to her main target or mission.

#tales of mewni #callyieverse #froppy butterflyfan2000 #asks #my characters #Don't really have that many characters that are finished currently so I tried my best! #theodosia #Saoirse #new character #tehehehe

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Hello Pepeta

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Theodosia’s thoughts on Cea Vitamill?

Good question. I don’t think she even knows that she exist tbh. It’s been a long while since she seen her brother let alone know what he really gets up to. From what I’m seeing is that she is nice and that their personalities could go well together.

#callyieverse #tales of mewni #theodosia #asks #froppy butterflyfan2000 #Tmack #Cea Vitahall #others characters

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How does Charlotte get along with her moms?

She gets along with her parents for the most part but is more of a lone wolf with her family. Her parents do feed her ego too much which has led her to her current attitude and why she believes she is the best and will be the queen of monsters. At least you can't say she's insecure.

#callyieverse #tales of mewni #charlotte #froppy butterflyfan2000 #Honestly im changing one of her parents #but the statement still stands

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What is Theodosia's fighting style? Is it a style of swordmanship or H2H combat?

Theodosia has more of a stealth based since the spiderlings are more inclined to behave and use this to their advantage. She would use little close contact weapons like daggers and knives but seems to enjoy getting the jump on her opponent (Which is opposite to her later offspring Charrlotte)

#callyieverse #Asks #tales of mewni #froppy butterflyfan2000 #theodosia

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What does Theodosia focus on when performing her duties as the heiress to the Spiderlings Kingdom?

Her father tends to really give her brunt work of it all. Like reading paperwork and sorting out the more important thing in the Queendom to worry about. She still does nice things like going to royal events with her family typically, but she only recently was allowed to go on anything on her own.

#Theodosia #Tales of Mewni #Callyieverse #Asks

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Attacka

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I started playing this Legacy not too long ago and couldn't find any graphics for it so I made some of my own! I hope you all enjoy them! Thank you to @a-sims-garden for creating this wonderful legacy for us to enjoy <33 Here's a cute little link for y'all if you want to go give them some love! Happy Simming!~

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My take on Scooby Doo’s Velma Dinkley! Wonder who I should draw next…

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Love them!!

would you draw. Roxy

i have a lot of Roxy sketches but i'm not super comfortable with posting them here coz they're old. but i can show you more recent ones

#homestuck #hs roxy #roxy lalonde #homestuck art #roxy homestuck #roxy lalonde fanart #othersart #others art

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