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Namor The Sub-Mariner with ancient Atlantis clothes

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What does Imperius Rex mean?

What does Imperius Rex mean?

IMPERIUS REX! is a made up battle cry/catchphrase.

I broke it down a while back:

Imperious & Rex are both latin words and some of Namor’s inspiration is from some Roman-Greek Aesthetics; Bill Everett used Roman > Namor. Ankle Wings based on Hermes. Later on more Roman-Greek Aesthetic would be added in the Silver Age comics by Stan Lee & Jack Kirby.

Imperius is not the correct spelling. However it is spelled this way for most of time, the O was added and then it was dropped again in the 90s, sometimes writers wrote it as Imperius and other times as Imperious. However Imperius is the original way it was written and is widely used.

The first time that we see the now famous catchphrase it was not said but written out in very small letters in Tales to Astonish (1959) #70 published (1965):

The very first time that the words Imperius Rex were said it was not by Namor but by Lord Vashti in Tales to Astonish (1959) #77 published (1966)

Then in the same comic, by Namor for the first time:

Then by Lady Dorma.

So they all used to say it as this Atlantean Phrase.

The definition of Imperious is: befitting or characteristic of one of eminent rank or attainments; marked by arrogant assurance; commanding; domineering.

Also this word is close to Imperium which is defined as: the right to command the force of the state in order to enforce the law; a nation having or exerting supreme power; superpower; sovereignty; empire.

Rex is latin for King.

So when Namor and his people say Imperius Rex they are basically uttering a war cry of ‘For the Empire and King’. At least that's how I see it. It's a battle cry, it's a state of being, and it's one of Namor's titles. He's called the Imperius Rex.

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do you feel namor's birth year is the one listed on his hero id card, or do you think he's existed for much longer? with him being called the first mutant multiple times in several different iterations of sub-mariner and x-men canon, it makes me think he's probably a lot older than just 98? but i also know there's some information on atlanteans living on average ~120 years, so i wanted to get your opinion on it!

Yes, I do feel Namor’s birthday is the same as the one on his hero card. Namor actually had a different in canon birthday date in the golden age, February 2.

Sub-Mariner Comics #36 (1954)

But as we know, Marvel considers the Marvel Universe to have started with the Silver Age and the first comic of Fantastic Four (1961), so his current Birthday is February 22, 1922. We know that Namor was sent to fight the Surface World by his mother and grandfather when he came of age and he arrived in New York in 1939, and that later he went to fight in World War ll so he was a very young man/teen. Keeping to the 2/22/1922 birthday he would be 17 years old the first time he left Atlantis and came to the surface world.

I don’t think Namor is older than that because Fen meets Leonard in 1920, which is stated several times through out many different comics.

There is an limited amount of time between their meeting and Namor’s birth.

A good 1 to 2 years are not fully fleshed out, but we do know Princess Fen spent months with Leo spying on the humans and reporting to her father, Emperor Tha-korr, before falling in love with Captain McKenzie.

(Repeated many times in different comics but this one is from) Saga of the Sub-Mariner (1988) #1

They married, and we also know that Fen and Leo had an adventure with Captain Nemo during that time.

Defenders (2012) #8

Then Fen was dragged back to Atlantis against her will when her Father’s men caught up with her, leaving Leonard for dead (he survived but Fen and all of Atlantis thought he died during the fight).

(Repeated many times in different comics but this one is from) The Order (2007) #7

As for how long Atlanteans live, Marvel never made that clear, In the first picture I posted you can see Namor writing “I found I can live indefinitely”, possibly meaning he learned he was immortal, or at least long lived so long as nothing killed him. So Atlanteans could live anywhere between 200 or more years. Older Atlanteans like Vashti are called ancient ones, and when they get older they do go off to die.

Hulk Annual 1998

The only thing we do know for certain is that Atlanteans age very slowly. Also Namor is often one of the only heroes still living in most future timelines, and how he looks ranges anywhere from barely older than what he is now to old man Namor, depending on how far it is into the future or how old looking the writer/artists want him to be. (Major X (2019) #4 has an older looking Namor but it’s a Liefeld comic so I try not to blind myself any more than necessary)

Defenders (2012) #11

As for why Namor is called the first mutant, that’s a totally different thing. You see Namor is the first Marvel character, he predates X-Men publication by decades, and has had his wings since he was first created by Bill Everett in 1939. The term mutants wasn’t even made yet.

Fire & Water: Bill Everett, the Sub-Mariner, and the Birth of Marvel Comics by Blake Bell

Fun Fact! Namor is called the First Mutant because he is the first mutant in real world publication, as in the first published mutant character, in Marvel Universe continuity it’s meant that Namor is the first public mutant or the first modern modern mutant birth of our age. Hence why he has the name: Namor the First Mutant. This name was used on covers of his comics throughout the years.

Namor is the prototype mutant. He is the First Mutant because of Sub-Mariner comics issue 38. In Feb. 1955 Bill Everett wrote a comic called “Wings on his Feet” which explained why Namor has his ankle wings.

When Namor was 14 he & his mother were in a dangerous situation & Namor manifested his wings as a way to save her and himself from being trapped in the ice. This was when Marvel still wasn’t Marvel, it was Atlas Comics, and this was eight years before the first X-Men comic which came out in 1963. So teens manifesting their mutant abilities during times of high stress, gaining powers in their teens was taken most likely taken from this. (I say most likely because it’s never confirmed but Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were long time mainstays of Marvel even before it became Marvel, and they had worked with Bill, so its most likely his comic inspired them when it came time to explain the Mutants.)

As for when Namor was called a mutant in Marvel continuity, that was in Fantastic Four Annual #1 (1961)

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has namor met poseidon?

Yes, many times, however in the Marvel universe Neptune is Poseidon so they use the either name interchangeably, however Neptune is the one they use more commonly. Times Namor has met Neptune/Poseidon off the top of my head are:

1. Neptune grants Namor the Trident of Neptune when Namor chose love over power and saved Lady Dorma’s life over fulfilling his quest to retrieve the Trident to reclaim his throne. Tales to Astonish #75

2. Neptune carves his symbol of a Trident onto Namor’s belt as a show of his faith in his descendant after Namor goes to pray to him for guidance. The Sub-Mariner (1968) #68

3. Neptune saves a horse, transforming it into a seahorse when Namor begged him and wanted to give up his own life for the drowning creature. Marvel Fanfare (1982) #16

4. Neptune brings Namor back to life after he is killed and grants him the Ancient Armor of Atlantis. Namor, the Sub-Mariner (1990) #37

5. Namor and Hercules team up to save Poseidon from the Amazons who had captured him. (This is literally one of the few times I remember them called Neptune, Poseidon) Incredible Hercules (2008) #123

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Namor Art by Christian Ward

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How far is Atlantis spread out in the comics? I know Namor says they claim all the oceans and what not, but is there an actual map or something of all their cities and towns?

Marvel only ever made a few maps of the undersea world and all of them are very old and outdated. Marvel has stated many times there are other cities/towns/smaller settlements outside of the Capital City of Atlantis, such as Tha-korr's City, Oceanus, Maritanis, New Atlantis, but usually these were cities where Namor lived or are rebuilt Capital Cities, we rarely get to see cities or places where he hasn't lived, and there are other undersea people other than Atlanteans such as Lemurians, Sirenas, Merfolk, Chasm people, the Nereids, the 99 Daughters of Pontus, the Uhari, etc. and there are other undersea Nations like Lemuria. There are also points of interest like Neptune's shrine, or the lost City of the Golden Gate, and other deep sea spots that hold old power or doors or city/temples. However there is not one comic or series that fully details everything about the Undersea World. It's one of the frustrating aspects of being a comic fan, we all want world building but Marvel neglects the ocean side of their universe.

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (1983) #1

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition (1985) #1

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition (1985) #7

Marvel Atlas (2008) #1 & 2

Marvel Atlas - Lemuria

Marvel Atlas - Atlantis

Marvel Atlas - Capital City of Atlantis

Namor mentions taking a very hands off approach to his people, so long as they follow his laws and don't harm his other subjects he generally doesn't micromanage.

Defenders (2012) #5 - "One cannot police the entire world"

Namor rules all the seas and all the people and creatures who dwell within it's waters, he also owns islands, and his people are very spread out over the oceans.

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Stunning Namor Art by Chris Anyma (source)

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The Atlantean Kiss

The Ocean asked me for a Kiss And I was helpless to resist

Namor Week 2022 - Day 2 - Atlantean Ladies I commissioned this beautiful Namor/Dorma art inspired by Klimt’s The Kiss  from @pointdotiozao Thank you for this art! It’s so pretty & I love it!!! 

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Oh no I hate Monday so much

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Namor The Sub-Mariner

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King Namor & King T’Challa  

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Namor and Jim

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Imperius Rex #100

We made it people! The 100th Imperius Rex and Namor doesn’t even say it. Haha. This post will be different since I want to talk about the Sub-Mariner’s famous catchphrase. So Subby fans let’s dive right in:

Rules of the Imperius Rex:

1.) It is to be shouted before entering a battle. This goes for any Atlantean and not just Namor.

2.) It can be said during emotional times when there is no fight to vent frustration as a curse or to wish a loved one well. Also during times of atlantean ceremony.

3.) If Namor ever whispers it or says it softly then run very far and very fast. Seriously he only says it quietly when he is extremely pissed off so be careful.

4.) After battle it is a time for savoring your victory and no time for Imperius Rex.

5.) Imperius Rex is a state of being, you either have it or you dont.

Namor’s Catchphrase:

Namor was created by Bill Everett in April 1939 and is among comic’s first Superheroes and is the first Anti-Hero. In the Golden Age he did not say “Imperius Rex!” but was more often found to say “Suffering Shad!”

This catchphrase did not age well and when Namor was reintroduced by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby in Fantastic Four (1961) #4 he needed to get with the Silver Age. Continuing with Bill Everett’s Roman style for the Sub-Mariner they gave Namor the iconic Imperius Rex!

Yet the first time that we see the now famous catchphrase it was not said but written out in very small letters in Tales to Astonish (1959) #70 published (1965):

In fact the very first time that the words Imperius Rex were said it was not by Namor but by Lord Vashti in Tales to Astonish (1959) #77 published (1966)

Namor says it for the first time in the following panels of the same comic page:

Then also the Lady Dorma as she wishes Namor well on his journey:

The first time Namor says Imperius Rex in the pages of Fantastic Four (1961) is in issue #102 published (1970) so nine years after he entered the Silver Age:

What does Imperius Rex mean?

Imperious Rex are both latin words and Namor’s creation was rooted in the Roman empire. In fact Namor is Roman backwards. It was Bill Everett, the Submariner’s creator, who chose to depict Namor and his people as underwater people with the style of a Roman Empire.

Imperius is not the correct spelling. However it is speeled this way for most of time, the O was added and then it was dropped again, sometimes writers wrote it as Imperius and other times as Imperious.

The definition of Imperious is: befitting or characteristic of one of eminent rank or attainments; marked by arrogant assurance; commanding; domineering.

Also this word is close to Imperium which is defined as: the right to command the force of the state in order to enforce the law; a nation having or exerting supreme power; superpower; sovereignty; empire.

Rex is latin for King.

So when Namor and his people say Imperius Rex they are basically uttering a war cry of ‘For the Empire and King’.

If we were to take this one step further in a fan letter reply it was explained why Namor was called a prince for so many years and not a king:

So taking the fact that Namor was Prince ruling under their King Neptune the phrase Imperius Rex could be translated as “For the Empire and for God” Since Neptune is the Atlantean deity.

Namor needed a catchphrase sometime on parr of the Thing’s “It’s Clobbering Tme!” also like the well known “Avengers Assemble!” what better way to express his charcter than through Imperius Rex? Anyway you define it the word has long been a part of the Sub-Mariner’s journey through the pages of comics.

This wraps up my post on Namor the Sub-Mariner’s Imperius Rex and I hope you all enjoyed it! I have created a sideblog where you can see all the Imperius Rex posts @imperiuswrecked 

Thanks for reading!

IMPERIUS REX!

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Art dump🐟🐟omg I’ve drawn too many chibis😭

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Happy Birthday to the 101 years old blorbo🎊🎊🎊🎊🎂🎂🎂🎂 I really don’t have the time to draw sadly I can only draw chibi versions of him😭😭

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