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#Spaneton Retro TV... my final message. Goodb ye

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human... I remember youre release droughts...

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Since the outbreak of armed conflict in Tigray in November 2020, Amhara security forces and interim authorities have carried out a campaign of ethnic cleansing against the Tigrayan population in Western Tigray, committing war crimes and crimes against humanity. Recent Human Rights Watch research found that two officials, Col. Demeke Zewdu and Belay Ayalew, who were previously implicated in abuses, continue to be involved in arbitrary detention, torture, and forced deportations of Tigrayans.

“The November truce in northern Ethiopia has not brought about an end to the ethnic cleansing of Tigrayans in Western Tigray Zone,” said Laetitia Bader, deputy African director at Human Rights Watch. “If the Ethiopian government is really serious about ensuring justice for abuses, then it should stop opposing independent investigations into the atrocities in Western Tigray and hold abusive officials and commanders to account.”

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COMPILATIONS AND SPECULATIONS: Timeline Weirdness

The messed-up clock in the unused classroom

"All the coupons expired before the book's print date."

“For some strange reason, for just a brief moment... You thought you saw Susie glaring at you, coldly... But when you moved the glass away, You see her looking at you, smiling and making a rude gesture.”

The closet Dark World seemingly contains a waterfall frozen in time

"WELL, HAPPY NEW YEAR! OR, WAS IT THE OLD YEAR."

POSSIBLE: Gaster wants us to create "A NEW FUTURE" for Deltarune, perhaps implying there was an undesirable "old" future

POSSIBLE: "flashback_excerpt" (occurring in and talking about the present) (with a ticking clock)

POSSIBLE: Unused dialogue of Susie begging Kris to wake up (they're not friends yet)

SPECULATION CORNER

...gonna be honest I think I've covered my thoughts already between my "Winter Theory" stuff and "Recursion Theory" stuff.

basically, i think there's a lot of foreshadowing about Deltarune already having met with a terrible fate, and about reflections and recursions, which combined could imply a strange loop scenario.

in summary: "A strange loop is a cyclic structure that goes through several levels in a hierarchical system. It arises when, by moving only upwards or downwards through the system, one finds oneself back where one started. Strange loops may involve self-reference and paradox."

in short, it could be the new year and the old year simultaneously. susie could be kris' friend and their enemy. a current letter or an egg or a man behind a tree could already be gone. and noelle and kris could flashback to things that were currently happening. and the same story could play out over, and over, and over again. forever.

#i'm definitely missing some so will come back to edit #the clock ticking could just be noelle's watch related but thought i'd mention it just in case #compilations and speculations

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If there is magic in the light world, I will eat my hat

And here's why:

We've already seen a world with magic, so every difference between worlds is important:

toriel's stove

the books on magic in the librarby- note that in deltarune it's a book of magic *tricks* that require *floating hands*

this also comes with a more profound understanding of the soul than we have in deltarune...

2. The Direct Evidence

Note that Susie and Noelle here are listing the ways in which the dark world is DIFFERENT than the light world, also following on that last line...

sorry I got something in my eye

note again, that magic is referenced in terms of tricks- sleight of hand- only further emphasized by the name "jongle" a portmanteau of the words "juggle" and... something else (this carries over in JP)

now this one is slightly more esoteric, but bear with me-

the mere fact of a bathroom and the lack of healing the hot chocolate provides means that the food, quite simply, is not magic like it is in UT- it is decidedly mundane

LAST AND VERY IMPORTANT POINT:

DETERMINATION =/= MAGIC

THE ABILITY TO SAVE AND LOAD IS NOT, BY LORE, MAGIC

THE ABILITY TO CREATE DARK FOUNTAINS IS NOT, BY LORE, MAGIC

3. The Counterarguments

This first one is easy to move past, and a fairly weak argument overall, but it involves, in particular, catti:

pretty suspect right? until you consider the surrounding dialogue

She's an edgy goth teen- this is in reference to her family being loud.

again pretty convincing right? not really no:

"studying the occult" from a goth teen is about as reliable as it sounds- and on the same level as the party tricks from earlier.

the second counterpoint is something along the lines of "but what about noelle and snowgrave"

to which the obvious answer is: we already know one line of spells from the "Dragon Blazers" games, it isnt much of a stretch for snowgrave be the metaphorical firaga to flare of final fantasy

Another relatively tame explanation could be that our monster allies simply *know* spells upon entering the Dark World (Susie with Rude Buster, Berdly with his Tornado) and snowgrave is either something she acquired through the route (Like susie with ultimate heal) and REALLY doesn't want to use, or a spell she simply actually doesn't know.

The other two counterpoints however, are harder to dismiss, and they have specifically to do with monster biology

Monster Funerals, technically speaking

While not directly stated in game, its a fairly reasonable assumption to make that the reason monsters turn to dust when they die is their lack of physical matter. Where this becomes relevant is through Father Alvin's infamous line about "this hammer" which implies that the burial tradition (and thus the physicality) remains constant between the two games. This would imply that, in-spite of the food and bathrooms, monsters are still made mostly of magic (further obscured by the lack of confirmation on monster blood we have)

2. Blookster

Let's assume for a second that monsters are physical. That they are confirmed to have blood and dont turn into dust and all that comes with it. Then what about Ghosts?

hmm.

(many images stolen from @nochocolate )

#great analysis!! #and tbf the existence of monster dust and ghosts does not confirm or deny the (non)existence of magic #there are plenty of series that include some fantasy elements like magic but not others like dragons or gods and vice versa #it seems perfectly plausible to me that some supernatural things like ghosts and dust could exist while magic doesn't #it's just a departure from undertale to not include magic suddenly but that doesn't mean it can't happen #the stove flavor text especially is very compelling #others theories

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Alright this a dumb question with a very obvious answer from a gameplay perspective but hear me out here: WHY can we leave ralsei's dark world on command?

Now this is only weird because of a few lines in chapter 1, most notably this one from lancer:

and this line from ralsei:

Which is demonstrably only true AFTER...

I'm on to you green boy

#ooohhh...OOOUGH #!!!!! #others theories

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i dont know why people claim the soundtrack doesn’t include certain no mercy/weird route tracks for “spoiler reasons” when eg the pacifist route is spoiled completely with “hopes and dreams” and the like, and no mercy route songs “battle against a true hero” or “megalovania” are literally on there

#if i had to guess my guess would be based on the one email toby fox sent about chara merchandise being #‘a trivialization of what they stand for in the game and the message they carry.’ #like that could easily apply to making full soundtracks available for the no mercy and weird routes too #either way the truth is we still don't know why certain songs are on the soundtrack and others aren't

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look man i understand why most no mercy/weird route tracks aren’t on the official osts but also flashback_excerpt might actually be tied for my favourite deltarune track and i need to hear it on repeat

#the weird melancholy the loneliness the clock ticking the wavery analog horror version of the holy that is both unnerving and comforting #if it isnt clear i love it for the same reasons i love darkness falls

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From February 10th

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Some things we know about de-termination, our favourite mcguffin

Monsters can have it regardless of whether they're mostly magic or not (see UT Undyne)

Monsters in DR definitely have it (see Berdly almost opening the fountain)

Monsters in DR probably have the exact same qualities as humans including with regards to dt (unconfirmed but toby's original plan for the town to be entirely humans + also some funky silhouette stuff with the humans from the legend looking like susie and kris)

dt doesn't need a soul to be contained in a body (everyones favourite number one rated flower [[2015]])

Darkners do not have it (probably) (queens need for a peon)

It is the will to live

it melts things with high buoyancy

it is used (somehow) to create dark fountains

possibly related to the ability to save and load (confirmed in UT, questionable in DR)

its a pun

it is present in human souls (extraction experiments)

human bodies likely retain it in some manner without a soul (our favourite geno demon chara, kris able to open the fountain(?))\

boss monsters

what the fuck is a darkworld save

#others theories

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ive had this fuckig image in my brain for ages. i dont know what it means

#noelle deltarune.

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something i've not really seen theorized about much that seems important is the DNA sequences in the teacup rides... what's their significance?

#(this is me holding out the mic) #deltarune theory

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New boycott targets called for by the BDS movement. More info on why on their website.

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while im here yakking about darksausages. what about.

lightsausages.??

#listen. there is already so much light version dark version in this series #it may as well happen #(chapter 3 can drop at any time really. truly. at any point it will not matter at all. i am behaving so normally in the meantime)