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Hello! Hope you’re well. I read all of Surrender Dorothy today TWICE after discovering it for the first time. Just wanted to drop by and say it is absolutely amazing and such a masterpiece of a fic so far!! Trying to predict what elements of the show will emerge in the do over timeline and which elements of the show might not exist anymore is such fun! I will eagerly devour any update if you are ever inspired to release a new chapter 😊

So sorry for the delay in answering! I don't get on Tumblr much, so I just saw this now.

I really appreciate your kind words (as well as the reminder that this story exists).

"WHY?" is the most important question to me when it comes to character choices and backstory. I need to interpret the purpose of past events in order to understand exactly who the character is now - even in a story like this where the past...you know. So, without getting too spoilery, I can say that I put a lot of thought into outlining this fic, and found creative ways to incorporate canon events and characters into the storyline when they could serve a purpose.

Man, I really need to buckle down and start writing again, because this Ask just made me so excited to revisit this story! Thank you so much!

#asked and answered #surrender dorothy #silverfics #vm fanfic

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FAST FIC ANNIVERSARY CHALLENGE

Hey hey, VM fans, long time! We at VMHQ have risen from the dead, in partnership with the VM Fic Club and AllTheVMFF, to host a series of activities for the platinum anniversary of the Veronica Mars TV show. So with no further ado, here's the first!

The rules are few. Write a fic of 2004 words. Use our special custom Wheel of Prompts to come up with ideas (or don't! Your choice!) Then post your completed story to the challenge library by June 21st. Easy!

Keep an eye out here and on the fic club and AlltheVMFF sites for upcoming fun activities in various venues. We've missed you, VM Fandom! Let's remember the good times, meaning the fabulousness of this community, write some fic, and have some fun.

#VMPlatinumAnniversary

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VM 20th Anniversary Celebration! We're kicking off a year-long party with an epic fanfic challenge! Come join us and the VM Fic Club on Discord for a trip down memory lane.

https://discord.com/invite/2ZzkBTSzbn

https://discord.com/invite/wpdyTyNzJb

And to help inspire your fic writing, we've created "The Wheels of Inspiration"! Give them a spin and watch your next fanfic come to life!

https://spinthewheel.io/wheels/hlxoQlle0QXEq10uMP5Wcz0xJmU9MQ#google_vignette

**Disclaimer: This event should in no way be construed as supporting Rob Thomas or his future endeavors. Rob Thomas cannot sink into permanent obscurity fast enough for us. This event is for the fandom and the wonderful fans.

#vmfanfic #vmhq #veronica mars #waves at old friends

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okay hozier hoes reblog and put in the tags your top three songs from unreal unearth as of right now

#unknown/nth #who we are #i carrion icarian

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Unreal Unearth is for those that are feral and ravenous and filled with unbearable yearning, those that love Greek mythology and Irish folklore and Dante's divine comedy, those that believe in the cruelty of the world and the love of the people in it, those that love and hurt and live and die

#hozier #unreal unearth

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when hozier said “the likes of a darkness so deep that god at the start couldn’t bear” and when hozier said “i’d still know you not being shown you i only need the working of my hands” and when hozier said “some part of me must have died the first time that you called me baby” and when hozier said “i would still be surprised i could find you darling in any life” and when hozier said “heaven is not fit to house a love like you and i” and when hozier said “but if we fall i only pray don’t fall away from me” and when hozier said “you were steering my heart like a wheel in your hands and darling i haven’t felt it since then” and when hozier said “if there was anyone to ever get through this life with their heart still intact they didn’t do it right” and when hozier said “if i was a riptide i wouldn’t take you out” and when hozier said “darling there’s a part of me i’m afraid will always be trapped within an abstract from a moment of my life” and when hozier said “do you know i could break beneath the weight of the goodness love i still carry for you” and when hozier said “darkness always finds you either way it creeps into the corners as the moment fades” and when

#hozier #unreal unearth #emerging from my cave to celebrate this momentous day

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No hardcore fandom has ever died so quickly and so completely as Veronica Mars. This is the story of its murder.

They should study Veronica Mars in Hollywood. I'm serious. It's an incredible story of how to go from "loud, passionate fanbase with its own fandom name that campaigns and advocates constantly for it" to "absolutely zero fucking interest" damn near OVERNIGHT with just ONE epically terri-bad decision.

If you weren't there, you don't understand: From 2007 to 2014, the fandom — the "Marshmallows," as they called themselves — were everywhere in the Internet's geek spaces, my friends. They routinely beat the drum about the series' three seasons and its excellence, lamented its cancellation, pushed others to give the show a try, and always - ALWAYS - proudly and loudly called for the series to be revived.

FULL DISCLOSURE/CONFESSION: I've not even watched that much Veronica Mars, frankly... ? Yeah, I'm sorry! it does seem pretty good from like the four-or-five hours I've experienced firsthand. I just never took the time to sit down with it. Regardless, I find fandoms and their dynamics — both how they operate internally and how they display to others externally — deeply fascinating. And I honestly find them easier to study from the outside than the inside. Like, if I'm IN a fandom, I'm more likely to stay in my corner and ignore places that seem negative. But being on the outside lets me just... absorb what's out there, looking into every forum without judgment. It's like studying pop-culture sociology or something? And it helps that I'm very close to some serious(-ly burnt) Marshmallows. It makes it so much easier to find and absorb the gamut of the fandom.

Besides: There is NO fandom story I've ever seen that's anything like what happened to Veronica Mars and the Marshmallows.

(Time to insert a brief explainer for the uninitiated: Veronica Mars was a TV series that aired from 2004-2007 on the now-deceased UPN network wherein Kristen Bell played the titular character, a high school girl whose single dad was a private detective in the fictional community of Neptune, California. She grew up working "unofficially" as his assistant, which meant that she herself was effectively a teenage private detective.

The three core elements of the series were: 1) Veronica investigating each week's big mystery with plenty of quips and snark, 2) Watching Veronica's various relationships develop and shift, with most of the focus given to a) her relationship to her father and b) Her romantic pursuits (which began as the Veronica/Duncan/Logan triangle before eventually becoming focused on the slow-burn, off-on Veronica/Logan love story), and 3) The gradual development of that season's "mytharc" — the overarching BIG MYSTERY that doesn't get resolved or wrapped until the season finale. So it went over the course of two seasons that took place in high school and the third, shorter season that was at the start of Veronica's collegiate career.)

Just how big and how passionate were the Marshmallows? WELL! When series creator Rob Thomas (not the Matchbox 20 guy) and star Kristen Bell announced the Kickstarter campaign for the Veronica Mars movie in March 2013, it achieved its heretofore-unprecedented goal of TWO MILLION GODDAMN DOLLARS within less than 12 hours. At that time, it was the biggest Kickstarter goal to ever succeed — and certainly the fastest to reach that kind of height. Fans fell OVER themselves to pay out for it. Hell, my own significant other was DEEP in the tank for VM at the time and invested enough to get multiple t-shirts as backer rewards as well as a disk copy of the movie when it eventually came home.

And AFTER the movie hit in 2014? It was thankfully beloved and embraced! The once-teenage characters were adults who were actually out living on their own and working for a living, but the fandom had grown up with them, so it wasn't like they were begging for them to stay young students. They embraced Adult Veronica and her new adventure. The fandom rejoiced loudly and continued to be all over the geek side of the Internet... where they, of course, still wanted more. Sure, there were new novels in the aftermath (which were written by the creator of the series), but most of the Marshmallows were calling for more movies or a streaming revival.

And then, at long last... season four was actually announced. And there was much (premature) rejoicing yet again.

Yes, Veronica Mars returned for a fourth season on Hulu in 2019. It was just eight episodes, and it was heavily centered on one season-long mystery instead of sprinkling that amongst a bunch of smaller ones, but it would still feature the same ol' Veronica. They promised a new, more "adult" mystery/investigation plus a strong focus on Veronica and Logan's love story.

New Hulu purchased the rights to the first three seasons and hyped up its presence on the platform while marketing the return for the new run. The marketing team played up the most popular quips from the show's history plus put out TONS of stuff centered on the Logan/Veronica ship to pump up the fans.

The season was dropped all at once using the classic Netflix "binge" model in July 2019. And then... afterwards?

There was a brief explosion of LOUD RAGE from the Marshmallows at what series creator Rob Thomas had to done to burn and spite the fandom and ruin his own goodwill.

SPOILERS FOR SEASON 4: See, at the end of the movie, Veronica and Logan finally entered into a long-term relationship. In season four, they've been dating for years, and Logan proposes marriage. But of course there has to be drama/obstacles: In this case, Veronica isn't sure she's ready to marry... or capable of being in a marriage. Ah, but of course she eventually realizes how much Logan means to her. The two are married, and, in the season finale... Logan is killed by a car bomb in the penultimate scene. The final scene is a flashfoward to a year later, where Veronica leaves Neptune alone.

For most fandoms, that'd be a memorable point of pain. A big ol' speed bump that ultimately throws some people off the bus, leaving only the die-hards. But the fact that fans had been invested in this relationship for literally 15 years and that Hulu (and creator Rob Thomas) had heavily marketed the new season as being a big romantic event for the ship... it was too much. Unlike the aftermath of the Star Wars sequels, there was no lingering group of die-hard fans who were open to whatever was next — at least no significant one. I did some Googling and could only find TWO people who still wanted another season.

Funnily enough? Critics LOVED this. Vanity Fair infamously penned an editorial about how Veronica Mars had "finally grown up" with the finale. (The same editorial also featured the author openly hating on Veronica ever being in a relationship because it causes "arrested development" and declaring that the movie -- which was acclaimed by both critics AND fans alike, I remind you -- was a lame dud. So. The writer must be a reeeaaaal fun person.)

But a series doesn't live based on critical acclaim, as it turns out. The fandom was murdered overnight. "Marshmallows" stopped appearing in geek spaces online entirely. No one expressed interest in seeing the next season or the next movie. The constant flow of fan AMVs on YouTube and fanfics on AO3 dried up to nothing.

Since 2019 ? Nothing. Chirping crickets. An intensely dedicated fandom of 12 years was just... vaporized.

I've never seen anything like it before OR since.

That's why it's so fucking fascinating.

So what went wrong?

Creator Rob Thomas was adamant about two things: ONE, the series was intended to be a noir show, which meant there couldn't be any happiness for its protagonist. And TWO, the death of Logan was necessary to evolve and grow the series.

Thomas thought that having Veronica in a relationship would be holding her back, and that a marriage would absolutely kill the series and leave her stagnant. It never even occurred to him that marriage isn't the end of a character's life and growth. It never occurred to him that plenty of drama can be had AFTER someone is married, or that development/growth could be that the characters mature enough to be capable of maintaining a committed relationship. Thomas' view of his own universe was so myopic that he couldn't conceive of any possible way that Veronica could still be a private detective involved in life-threatening investigations AND be married at the same time. Futhermore, he felt that fans just wanted Veronica to become a pregnant housewife, which is about as far from what Marshmallows were after as you can get without straight-up killing Veronica and/or Logan. He managed to do the only thing wronger than what he wrongly thought was their insistence.

On top of the above, Rob Thomas only viewed "noir" as a vehicle for total fatalism... despite the fact that many of the most famous noir stories are cynical and full of moral ambiguity, but they still feature a positive outcome. The Big Sleep still has the protagonist get the girl. The Set-Up arguably ends with the happiest possible ending in spite of the beating the hero receives.

Perhaps most importantly? Despite Thomas own insistence that Veronica Mars was always "noir," the majority of both TV critics and fans did not think that designation ever truly applied. I suspect that's the reason why Thomas decided to go as dark and fatalistic as possible: He wanted to be noir, and he was being told that he wasn't. So he went so far into noir that he killed his own most popular property.

He was adamant that it was the only way for the series to grow. But as it turns out, it was instead the only way for the series to permanently end. Without that season four finale, a passionate group of fans would still be begging for more. With it? It's over. Nobody fucking cares now.

That's kind of amazing.

#veronica mars #agree so hard I came out of hibernation to reblog #he didn't just kill the fandom #he killed the first three seasons retroactively #and made it impossible to invest in new shows #burnt marshmallow forever #never getting over it

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a hozier song each for the shadow and bone characters *this is based off of the netflix series versions of the characters

Alina Starkov - Sunlight All the tales the same Told before and told again A soul that's born in cold and rain Knows sunlight, sunlight, sunlight

Aleksander Morozova - From Eden Honey, you're familiar, like my mirror years ago Idealism sits in prison, chivalry fell on his sword Innocence died screaming; honey, ask me, I should know I slithered here from Eden just to sit outside your door

Malyen Oretsev - Jackie and Wilson Lord, it'd be great to find a place we could escape sometime Me and my Isis growing black irises in the sunshine Every version of me dead and buried in the yard outside We'd sit back and watch the world go by

Nikolai Lantsov - Take Me To Church If I'm a pagan of the good times My lover's the sunlight To keep the goddess on my side She demands a sacrifice

Genya Safin - To Be Alone All I've ever done is hide From our times, when you're near me Honey, when you kill the lights and kiss my eyes I feel like a person for a moment of my life

Nina Zenik - Nina Cried Power It's not the wall, but what's behind it Oh, the fear of fellow men is near assignment And everything that we're denied By keepin' the divide It's not the wakin', it's the risin'

Matthias Helvar - Foreigner's God Her eyes look sharp and steady Into the empty parts of me But still my heart is heavy With the hate of some other man's beliefs

Kaz Brekker - Eat Your Young I wanna race you to the table If you hesitate, the gettin' is gone I won't lie if there's somethin' to be gained There's money to be made, whatever's still to come

Inej Ghafa - Cherry Wine Her fight and fury's fiery Oh, but she looks Like sleep to the freezing Sweet and right and merciful, I'm all but washed In the tide of her breathing

Jesper Fahey - Would That I With each love I cut loose, I was never the same Watching still-living roots be consumed by the flame I was fixed on your hand of gold Layin' waste to my lovin' long ago

Wylan Van Eek - Someone New There's an art to life's distraction To somehow escape the burning wait, the art of scraping through Some like to imagine The dark caress of someone else; I guess any thrill will do

#oh fuck yes #every single one a more brutal gut punch #hozier #shadow and bone

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andrew hozier byrne really writes the most devastating beautiful heartbreaking lyrics and then puts the most stunning vocals and melodies over them and that makes you want to dance and scream and light something on fire and kiss your loves and stand on top of the mountains and look at the stars and breathe and that’s just pure magic

#hozier #could not have said it better #hey tumblr #i've missed you

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Is Veronica (the character not Kristen) a Leo cuz it said in Veronica Mars wiki she was born between 1st August and 22nd August?

So sorry for the late response, anon. I always forget to check Tumblr, so I'm just seeing this now. According to this VMHQ post, V's DOB is 8/18/1987, so she's definitely a Leo. Which, as everyone knows is the very best sign of all! 😘 Hope this helps!

#veronica mars #asked and answered

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FELIZ CUMPLEAÑOS!!! I miss having you around. I hope life is kind to you wherever you are. -Night. PS. PLEASE COME BACK!

Thank you! It's always a joy to hear from you, and I hope the same for you!

I always assumed I'd come back once I found a new TV obsession, but maybe I've been underselling the appeal of cat memes and history, and great friends like you! I'll make a point to come around more often.

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What happened to kendall's painting?

Yikes. This has been sitting unread in my inbox since 5/2021. Sorry about that.

If you're still wondering...I assume you're talking about the Van Gogh in S3? Cormac FitzP murdered Kendall without knowing she'd converted the money to art. After Liam murdered him in return, Keith went back to the cabin and donated the painting to charity.

Hope that helps?

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Happy birthday to you! Hope you have a great day 🎉🎉🎉

Thank you!!

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Is anyone still reading this?  😂

300th annual birthday update. Two angsty chapters this year (33/34)

#SilverFics #Sometimes #Veronica Mars #vm fanfic #why is posting so complicated now #i miss tumblr

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#veronica mars #logan echolls #vm fanfic #silverfics #logan x veronica

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Chapters: 2/7 Fandom: Veronica Mars - All Media Types Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Logan Echolls/Veronica Mars Characters: Logan Echolls, Veronica Mars Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Modern Setting, Two Assholes in Quarantine, Friends to Lovers, Trapped together by circumstances, VMTAP20 Summary:

When Veronica dumps her live-in boyfriend during quarantine, she needs somewhere to live.

Logan just wants his space back. I know, Tumblr.  I never call. I never write.  I only show up when I want you to read my stuff.  

Will a 20K chapter fix this travesty?

#veronica mars #vm fanfic #logan echolls #gimme shelter #logan x veronica

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A masterpiece.

(via Elfie_Gimli)