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positivelybeastly · 13 hours
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Astonishing X-men Beast, if someone were to ask you what’s the main issue with the X-men/ Professor X philosophy what would you say? Not from anyone else’s experiences just yours and events that have taken place. While I take you as someone very loyal to the dream of Xavier, even though Scott is the poster boy/boy-scout of the team, you’ve surely have diverged at some point. Not completely, but slightly. Maybe. I don’t know.
". . . Have you ever noticed something a little odd about the First Class of X-Men? Charles' handpicked selection of mutants with whom to shock, astonish, charm, and woo the world?"
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"Professor Xavier had access to Cerebro, the most advanced mutant locating technology ever devised, working in conjunction with one of the most powerful and well trained minds that's ever graced this Earth. He had his pick of an entire planet's worth of mutants whom he could have chosen to elevate, to show the world, to use to prove to the human race that we were not to be hated and feared.
And he chose five white young Americans with non-threatening powers.
Sometimes I wonder - if I looked back then how I look now, would I have made the cut? Would the Professor have deemed me worthy of being a flag-bearer for his dream? Perhaps. Perhaps not."
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"But that is the issue, isn't it? The dream requires infinite patience. It requires infinite understanding. It requires an infinite capacity to be smacked in the face and turn the other cheek. It requires certain qualities. It requires certain people, includes certain people, excludes others, if only by proxy.
It requires a seventeen year old boy to be nearly beaten to death by an angry mob and decide, no, I'll continue to fight for you."
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"That's quite a thing to ask of a child. That's quite a thing to ask of anyone, don't you think? There are those who might say that when it comes to survival, the moral high ground merely ends up being the six foot of earth separating you and the top soil. I don't agree, obviously, but. It's not a life for everyone.
Sometimes, I think it's not a life for anyone."
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"But, in the end, I do believe. I believe in co-existence. I have a mother and a father who have loved me from the instant they saw me, no matter how unnatural my appendages.
They remind me that, no matter what else happens, there are always humans who make the world better. Humans who will like us, love us, break bread with us, protect us, nurture us. Even though it may seem like all you ever see are the sneering faces calling you a gene-freak, the other kind of person exists, too. It helps, to break the surface and take a deep breath every now and then. Remind yourself what you're fighting for."
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". . . The Professor himself has admitted that the dream may well be just a dream. That it needs to change if it's to become reality. It needs to include the physically mutated, the violent, the dispossessed, the unhappy, the unruly, the different. The strange.
The uncanny.
But the problem is that dreamers aren't made. They become. In some ways, maybe we're all just waiting for the new dreamer to come along to tell us what the next big idea should be.
For a time, I wondered if that might be me. But, I don't think it is. I'm excited to meet them, however. Whoever they may be. And when I do, I just hope they recognise that even if their dream is better, the Professor's dream are still the shoulders upon which they stand."
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". . . Heady stuff, no?"
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I'm also going to copy over my thoughts about a particular scene in Astonishing X-Men that you might find interesting, both in relation to your earlier question about body language, and about Hank and Xavier's dream. I originally posted this analysis on Reddit.
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Something I really appreciate about this scene is that it highlights how different Hank and Scott are in their relationship with Xavier.
Perhaps because Scott grew up with an abusive parental figure in Jack Winters and Hank grew up with very loving parents, Scott was able to recognise Charles' toxic behaviour and break away from Xavier - it might also have had something to do with the fact that at least one of Charles' biggest fuck ups had to do with Scott's brother Gabriel? Hard to say. But Hank, who Charles very carefully isolated from his parents by mindwiping them for years of Hank's whole existence, never really managed to break free of him, and it shows here.
Hell, it arguably never went away, even into the Krakoan era - a more interesting version of X-Force would have really dived into the kind of fucked up dynamic they have, where Chuck keeps covering for Beast's moral transgressions for seemingly no reason, because in some respects, he's responsible for them. He gave him the power, he gave him no oversight, but even more pressingly, he wasn't there for him emotionally. He pulled him into this life and didn't prepare him for the toll it would take, how much it would ruin Beast by the time he gets to Krakoa. Beast needed someone to help him there, and no-one did, which is part of why he went on the skids, I think.
But anyway, Whedon does a lot of moments where Hank is present for scenes but doesn't speak, which is important for a character who's well known for not shutting the fuck up. This, the initial cure conversation, the whole conversation about Piotr - Hank clams up. He doesn't feel like he can talk about it. He's off in his own head, his thoughts are his own, he doesn't feel the need to share them.
And here, it's especially important, because this is a big moral violation that Charles has committed in their name. I know it may be hard to remember, but back in the day, Hank had a moral opinion that was worth something, so the fact that he doesn't say anything here speaks volumes about just how much he feels capable of calling out the Professor, i.e. not at all. He craves Xavier's validation, his approval, he feels a kinship with Chuck. So he doesn't criticise him like he should.
It's especially interesting given that this would continue through the Utopia era. Every time Scott distanced himself from Xavier, Hank was there to comfort Charles, and I feel like that's just something he feels like he has to do. He feels like the devoted brother to Scott's more radical, more willing to criticise brother, and if Bendis had any interest in Beast as a character, he would've played on that in All-New X-Men - the fact that Scott killed their toxic father figure, and Beast feels both free of an influence he didn't know was choking him, but outraged that Scott would break their 'family' like that.
I find Beast compelling because of his flaws, and this is an interesting moment when you take all of that into account. I don't even know if that was the intention of this scene, or if Whedon just wanted to give Scott the speech, but it's interesting.
I definitely feel as though Hank agrees with Scott in the scene, for the record, but doesn't feel able to express it. Is that better or worse? Hard to say. The way that Cassaday draws him as he tells the other X-Men that their ride is here, it communicates shame and disappointment - but not just in Xavier. He's ashamed of his fear. He's disappointed in himself, that he didn't feel capable of speaking up.
And the reason that has real weight is because of his original X-Man status - I don't feel inclined to judge Kitty here despite the fact that she's silent as well, because it's a different dynamic. I don't really expect her to, you know? But Hank, I do, and I think he expects that of himself.
I doubt that Scott or the rest of the team judges Hank for staying silent, either - it's not as if he was complicit in Danger's abuse, after all - especially since it doesn't come up in the conversations Hank and Scott have after this. But Hank, I feel, would judge himself.
I also wonder if this might have played into why Hank got so much more vocal and active in opposing Scott's actions on Utopia - because he felt ashamed by his passivity here, and felt obligated not to let that tendency to repeat. But also, on some level, because he felt more like a peer to Scott, and less like a child, compared to Xavier.
In those instances, Hank is often morally correct, but, in some respects, naive and unhelpful, and he recuses himself from making what we might perceive to be the correct decision because of his ethics. I feel that there's a tendency to call him a coward or obstinate because of that - but is it really cowardly to make a moral stand? And, especially given what Hank would do as time went on, would we not have rather he kept making those moral stands, rather than desperately trying anything he thought would work?
I genuinely don't think he opposed Scott because he didn't like him or didn't love him, because I feel like he very clearly did, but because he felt it was the right thing to do for the both of them. In Hank's mind, he's fighting for the X-Men's soul, for Scott's - for his own. Scott, meanwhile, feels like it's all worth it so long as mutantkind makes it through. They're both right. They're both wrong. That's what makes it a worthwhile conflict.
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Dear (TAS) Beast, how and when did you get to know “Emma” so well?
"Oh - well, perhaps disappointingly, we were first properly introduced to each other while I was undergoing a suit fitting. Emma happened to be present at the same tailor, picking up a new Jumbo Carnation piece that she had had commissioned, and we got to talking."
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"She's tremendously well read, did you know? She knows every line of Byron by heart. She's also one of the few people who will actually laugh at my jokes!"
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". . . I have to admit, it was easy, to forget the role she played in tormenting poor Jean and accosting us as part of the Hellfire Club. It wasn't until I got back to the Mansion and saw Jean in the kitchen that I began to feel guilty, consorting with someone who had nearly cost her her life.
But . . . Jean reached out to me. She could sense my emotional turmoil. She didn't wish that for me, and she didn't wish vengeance upon Emma, either. She wanted everyone involved to move on."
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"She merely warned me that Emma's perfume is of a brand that doesn't come out of fur easily. And, to her credit, she was quite right about that."
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positivelybeastly · 14 hours
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Are you the only member of the original x men (including Xavier) who didn’t have a thing for a bird person? Between him and lilandra; Scott, Jean, and Phoenix; Bobby’s crush on Warren (him being a bird person himself had got to count for something)… are you the only one who isn’t into feathers? Unless Warren caught your eye, too..?
". . . Hmmm."
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"Bird people? No. No, not remotely, thank you very much. Not unless there's something about Vera Cantor I don't know."
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"I'll admit I'm very free with my affections, but not quite that free, my friend. Clint may have laid his lips on ol' Deathbird, but she wasn't my type."
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"Romance hasn't really been on the forefront of my thinking as of late. That'd be a no from me."
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"No."
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"And a firm, resounding no from myself. In answer to all of your questions. Warren's a very handsome individual, but, frankly, if anyone was going to go for him, I'm the least likely culprit from the original team. Yes, that does include Scottie."
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Just a question regarding the whole fall of x depiction of the x-men. Do you think they deserved to fall? If so, then why?
In my opinion (and sorry for the rambling) I believe most deserved it but definitely not everyone. *cough cough* Quiet Council *cough cough*. But going beyond their…mess, teams like X-Force and Legionnaires I felt don’t deserve it completely. While yes the actions of beast prime did make their reputation that much dirtier it could’ve been avoided if there was therapy for mutants. All his and many others “evil” actions could be been avoided if everyone wasn’t like light years apart from each other despite being in the same area at the same time. Even then there just byproducts of a crappy system of lies and neglect from the stupid quiet council that only makes things worse some how. But that’s my thoughts…maybe you could change them.
Question for Hank in general. What are five words you would use to describe love in your life? It could be: friend ships, romantic relationships, or even (and probably considered a little confusing to others) your relationship to your work.
"Five words to describe love? Quite a task, considering what Ewan McGregor had to say on the subject."
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"Oh, no. NO, NO, NO - !"
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"All you need is love!"
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"Love is just a game!"
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"I was made for loving you, baby, you were made for loving me!"
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"The only way of loving me, baby, is to pay a lovely fee~"
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"Just one night, give me just one night~!"
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"There's no way, 'cause you can't pay~"
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"Oh, there he is! In the naaaaaame of love, one ni-ght in the name of love~!"
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"You crazy fool, I won't give in to you~!"
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"Don't - leave me this way, I can't survive without your sweet love, oh baby, don't leave me this way~"
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There's a sound - Dark Beast is violently banging his head against the wall.
"Please. God. Please. Make. It. Stop."
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"All right, fine, fine, we'll take it easy on you . . . five words to describe love in our life . . . nourishing."
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"Regular! Skilful, too."
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"Anchor."
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"Betrayal."
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"Oh, well, thanks for lowering the tone there, guy . . ."
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So, I think a distinction does have to be drawn between X-Men and mutants, because the X-Men are a superhero team with various spin off groups, and the mutants are a race/community. For the most part, no, I don't think the mutants deserved to fall, and I don't think most of the teams or groups did, either.
Joe Public on Krakoa was just living their lives after said lives were rudely interrupted (if they were resurrected victims of the various massacres) or they were set to be persecuted by a world that hated and feared them. They didn't do shit to deserve being dive bombed by Nimrod or hunted down by Orchis fuckwads, they're just people living on an island utopia and trying to have a good time.
The Quiet Council, however, was a completely fucked system of government and everyone realised it way too late, so pretty much everyone involved in that institution deserves a smack upside the head and a long time away from any leadership position.
Yes, that does include Kate, Emma, Jean, Kurt and Ororo. They were all complicit in, at the very least, allowing X-Force's actions to go unmoderated, to say nothing of every other fucked up decision they signed off on.
I don't give a fuck if they stood in the Quiet Council chambers and said, oh, I miss when Hank was fun, why's he so unethical now - YOU'RE MEANT TO BE HIS FUCKING FRIENDS, CUNTS, ACT LIKE IT. Or at the very least, act like the fucking superheroes you're goddamn meant to be! Talk means nothing if it's not followed by action!
They didn't address the rot. Everyone in major leadership positions on Krakoa, yes, everyone, has to carry some of the blame for what happened to Krakoa. No, it wasn't just Beast, or Mr. Sinister, or Moira, all of them carry some responsibility for fumbling the bag and not addressing fundamental inequalities on their little happy island nation.
But 90% of the X-Men teams, who didn't have that knowledge, didn't have that power, who can't be held accountable for that stuff? Yeah, they didn't deserve what happened. Jubilee did not deserve to be crushed by Nimrod, no matter how you cut it, she simply did not. Same with every other member of that X-Men team, just to name one example.
X-Force, though . . . so, take all of this with a grain of salt, because this was quite possibly the worst written book of the era, and I know no-one was in character, BUT.
In-universe, with what is, unfortunately, canon?
Yeah, fuck those guys. All it takes for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing, and while no-one on that team can call themselves a good person, good god did they insist on doing a lot of nothing.
"Hmm, our leader was running a space Nazi prison, what should we do? Silent treatment. Brilliant."
Kill Quire a few extra times just for that. And for that shitty Ghost Calendars arc, while we're at it. Colossus, you're on my shit list for breaking Chronicler control and not telling anyone what was going on until the last second. Sage, you're an idiot, you and Logan both had the power to stop shit long before it got to the point it did. Domino, you . . . actually, Domino, Black Tom and Omega Red might get a pass here? I can't really blame them for what happened.
. . . Anyway! Mutants don't deserve genocide or the loss of the little scrap of the world they carved out for themselves. The Quiet Council and the leadership of X-Force, however, deserved everything they got, and quite possibly a hell of a lot more. That's the long and short of it.
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The philanthropist, Hank's potential benefactor, all bustling blonde cheer wrapped in bright spring colors... boops him on the nose.
"Boop!" she sings out, nose wrinkling as she does so. (It's too much cheer. Too much!) "I'm sorry. You just have the most boopable of noses." [externalconceit]
There's a moment. Hank takes it, forcefully, to process. To try and untangle all the intensely complicated feelings he has about being booped of all things. For most people, it just elicits momentary annoyance or amusement, but for Hank?
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It frankly pisses him off.
'Oh, your fur's so soft and shiny, can I touch it?' 'You don't mind if I pet you, do you?' 'Do you ever have to worry about fleas?' 'You have paw beans! Can I touch the beans? Please say yes!'
Never mind the fact that he didn't choose this. Some days, he sweeps his legs off the mattress, plants them on the floor, and then he remembers he's missing a finger and a toe on each paw. He remembers that he has paws now. Not hands. Paws.
And it takes a Herculean effort not to bring his three inch claws up and rip his own damned face off because he hates it. He hates this. He hates what's been done to him. It was one thing to get used to his original form, he had done that to himself, that made it easier to stomach, he enjoyed the attention then, but he never chose this.
Some days, he thinks he might've preferred dying in that hospital room in Valencia.
Some days.
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". . . Yes. So I've been told."
He does his best to scrub his voice of enmity. He does quite a good job, all things told. Not a perfect one, but what ever is?
"Very boopable."
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If you could all please take a moment to appreciate Hank 'I'm going to strangle you with my bare fucking hands' McCoy's stink face.
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Does the Brand corporation have anything to do with Abigail Brand? I always assumed it did but perhaps that was an unwise assumption
"Quite the coincidence, isn't it? That I should have two Brands in my life, one of which nearly wrecked my life, and the other, which has only improved it."
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"But in answer to your question - no, no it does not. Brand is not, in fact, Abigail's real name, but more a nom de guerre, akin to Beast or Cyclops - her actual last name is rather harder to pronounce with a human tongue, though, not impossible."
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"Morning, Hank."
Tess plops down beside him at the breakfast table, taking a sip of hot coffee from her Rebel Minotaur mug. (The 'Bad Dragon' of the past!) "Thanks for the cup."
"Indubitably! Good morning, Tess."
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Without even looking up from his newspaper (splayed open to the arts coverage, naturally, with a small article about up and coming artist Carly Crocker being the current focus of Hank's interest), the blue furred Beast clinks matching mugs with Tess and smiles. Oasis' Stand By Me strums along on the radio.
(Morph looks like they want to say something about the mugs, but. Do they dare revealing they know? What if Hank and Tess don't realise what Rebel Minotaur is all about? What if they just found the mugs and they don't know? Best not to risk it.)
"Oh, and don't forget, you need to pick up Jubilation's birthday gift today. You did ask me to remind you, after all."
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– The priority for the foreseeable future must be damage control. – Tall order when Mutants everywhere are taking to the streets. X-MEN ‘97 – Bright Eyes (S01E07)
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So, some thoughts about X-Men '97.
On the whole, much happier with this episode than I was with episode 6, which felt disjointed - would have preferred they just spliced all of Lifedeath together instead of sacrificing emotional intensity the way they did by splitting it.
Bastion is a very effective, threatening villain - Operation: Zero Tolerance is a perfect pick for the evolution of the show, and it's nice to see some shades of future plotlines in play, especially wrt Scott.
I've already seen some people thinking that Hank's scene rejecting Trish is a harbinger of Dark Beast/X-Force Hank, and honestly, it just makes me roll my eyes, because Hank really isn't allowed to be anything other than perfect and optimistic and unwaveringly faithful to Charles' dream, is he?
Scott's allowed to go on TV and, in a moment of anger, tell the world that mutants are nothing like normal people, that humans are ungrateful assholes, and he's spitting truth; meanwhile, Hank expresses that he's no longer happy with merely being tolerated in a private conversation with a journalist with notoriously shady ethics, in the ruin of a nation that's just been through a mass genocide, and suddenly he's on the slide to being a fucking supervillain?
Miss me with this shitty double standard.
"Don't compromise your morals, Hank!" - he literally didn't? He's expressing a political opinion in the wake of a tragedy. Him being unwavering in his belief in humanity would just make him look like a fucking fool who's oblivious to the writing on the wall in that moment.
He didn't attack anyone, he didn't even tell Trish to get lost, he just took umbrage with the idea that he's tolerated and not accepted. For someone to whom precise use of language is important, that's not a small distinction.
It's pretty plain that all of this is building up to a moment where the X-Men have to cool the world down after Bastion stokes the fires of a mutant-human war with brainwashed Magneto on one side and the Genosha massacre on the other. If you don't show the heroes, particularly the especially positive, compassionate ones like Hank, being waylaid by doubt, then the season arc has no punch.
Fucking let Hank have emotions and moments of weakness, oh my god.
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"There is indeed a Spider-Man in this - oh." The use of the word dimension had Hank's brow furrowing slightly as he took in the young (Spider-Woman?) on the Mansion doorstep, and it was only her evident youth and confusion that kept him from outright suspicion.
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Usually, the X-Men's brushes with alternate realities only ended badly, as Bishop could attest, but she seemed harmless enough, and disinclined to be a nuisance. He felt as though he would be a heel to turn her away based on negative associations alone.
"Would I be right in suspecting that your exact place of origin and your current dire state are linked? Regardless - this is a place of refuge for all kinds of disadvantaged individuals, young lady. You are more than welcome to seek shelter with us for as long as you require."
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Opening the other half of the double doors into the Mansion, Hank gestured inside and smiled, the foyer just as bright as his smile - and just as warm. It wasn't exactly a temperate night, after all, especially not for someone wearing tights.
"Please, come in. Perhaps we can share that box of empanadas, and you can get yourself situated while I ascertain how best to help you."
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He was going to leave the hot grandpa comment alone. That wasn't a conversation he was about to have with anyone - not Tess, not Morph, and certainly not with a young woman he had only just met. He could quite happily go the rest of his life without thinking about Magneto like that.
"And there's no need to worry about reimbursement. Our resources are such that your care is but a drop in the ocean, so to speak. If you have need of our other facilities, the restroom, perhaps, don't hesitate to say so. Our home, for the duration of your visit at least, is your home."
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Her eyes widen behind the mask, but she didn't screamed or jumped away. She was used to seeing people like this in her own world, but they never HIT HER, not greet her. She focused once the man mentioned Spider-Man.
🕷️ → ❝ T-There's a Spider-Man in this dimension? ❞
She was small, her voice sounded young. She has red-and-blue tights similar to Spider-Man, but wore a jacket and a backwards cap over it with patches of so many musicians, baseball logs, and video game characters.
❝ Uh--N-Nevermind. I'll worry about that later. Ummmmm....Like.....I kinda, sorta, maybe HOMELESS right now. I don't have any money, but I got these. ❞
She holds out a box of empanadas.
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❝ I know, I know. It's bad looking to pick up bums off the street, but I saw you on the news with that HOT GRANDPA getting arrested. You seem cool and know what is like to have powers....So...I'll pay you back if you let me sleep here. At least for tonight. ❞
The eyes of her mask closed tightly, hoping the blue-haired man doesn't reject her and slam the door on her face.
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The sudden shock had Hank smiling a little bit, just a hint of the prankster in his eyes as he enjoyed Lex's surprise, but he stood ready to assist if she did herself a mischief - thankfully, it appeared that her feline qualities were more than cosmetic in nature, and she remained firmly on her feet.
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"Exploration! I believe it was Edwin Hubble who said, 'Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure Science.' We can, of course, presume that he would have included mutant in those words, had he known of us. With that in mind, it would seem only fitting that you explore the universe around you, and find . . . science! To wit, my lab!"
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Letting go of his perch, Hank landed on his feet with a cat-like ease and quiet, one large blue hand keeping a hefty tome on quantum physics at his side while the other extended to offer a handshake.
"I hope that you've only heard good things, of course. Doctor Hank McCoy, but, if you prefer a more pithy term of address, you might also address me as Beast! What might be your appellation, young woman?"
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Most vexing, that Gambit had seen fit to abandon their new charge. He would have to take it up with the man later. If their guest had gotten unlucky, they might have found their way into the Danger Room, and then, well, then they really would have had a problem.
As she wanders into the sterile looking room, soft paws barely making a sound, an oddly cheerful voice seems to echo behind her. The shock is enough to send the young woman into a mild panic. The feline feet almost seem to skitter on the tiled floor, fur standing on end as she finally manages to turn towards the voice.
An upside down blue… something? He seemed vaguely ape like, but with other elements. Her slit pupils eye over the male as he speaks. Elegant and wordy. Tilting her head softly, Lex smiles gently, the relief that at least she wasn’t the only animalistic mutant was high to say the least.
“I suppose exploring is the most appropriate term? I was brought in today, but my guide abandoned me. The Cajun? He seemed busy and, well, honestly the way he kept asking if I’d purr if he petted me.” She chuckles, the tension still heavy in her hind legs. “You must be the Doc I’ve heard so much about?”
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"A common aphorism, with no small amount of wisdom to be found in it, and yet, I often find that the uncommon rejoinder, that satisfaction brought the feline back, can be just as true!"
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Showcasing his oft uncalled for stealth skills, Hank seemed to suddenly appear behind Lexie with a smile. His feet wrapped firmly around the various fixtures and fittings in the ceiling, he appeared to be just as comfortable inverted as their new guest was right side up.
"You appear somewhat lost, young lady. Perhaps I might be of some assistance in navigating this fine domicile? Unless, of course, you intended to find your way to my laboratory - in which case, I bid you a most enthusiastic welcome!"
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@positivelybeastly - Welcome to the Jungle
It was a hell of a week… turfed out of yet another institute after being discovered as a mutant. Trapped in another because of said mutation. Rescued by a team of more mutants! Then, somehow at the age of almost 30 years, being adopted by said mutants.
As she roams the halls out in search of a library, the main promise that had maintained her attention, Lex somehow found herself among the smell of chemicals and sterilised glass. A laboratory of sorts? Braving the new environment, a furred face pokes around the corner, feline muzzle first as her tail wriggles curiously.
“Lexie… you know better than this. Curiosity killed the cat” She speaks softly to herself, vaguely aware of another scent in the apparently empty room - one very unknown to her in breed.
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