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I think some people forget that some literature and some media is meant to be deeply uncomfortable and unsettling. It's meant to make you have a very visceral reaction to it. If you genuinely can't handle these stories then you are under no obligation to consume them but acting as if they have no purpose or as if people don't have a right to tell these stories, stories that often relate to the darkest or most disturbing parts of life, then you should do some introspection.

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FOB trivia

#this is the best fob interview

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We’re just gonna say we can’t do that from now on.

#silly boys #watcher #ryan bergara #shane madej

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If you ever feel like you’ve made bad decisions just remember that somewhere out there is a theatre director at an all-white high school about to choose the spring musical

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hey, you there! fellow watcherina!

reblog this if you love ryan, steven and shane, and their art. if you appreciate all the effort and care they've put into their creations over the years. if you are rooting for them. if you see them for the human beings they are. if you remain a fan, and will continue to support watcher!

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Received a vision while standing at the gate for my flight home

#poetry

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Listen, Dead Boy Detectives seems really cool, and I’m going to watch, but I am still really pissed about Lockwood & Co. being canceled so I have a bit of a sour taste in my mouth about it :’(

Just gonna try not to think about it too much and enjoy this new show for what it is.

#dead boy detectives #lockwood and co

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mkay i'm actually going to need all of these drama channels to hop out of our family business right about now, the crisis is over stop beating a dead horse

#lol #buy yes pls get on with something else

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seen a lot of stuff saying "oh can we admit that bfu was better than ghost files now" and um,,,am i the only one that likes ghost files more 🧍‍♂️

i think for me i just feel like the investigation is more thourough, eps are longer and less rushed and all that

also the spirit box was annoying as hell before the honeytone

#i hugely prefer ghost files to unsolved #like i loved unsolved #but damn #how can you dislike ghost files?

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on trust, being a creative, and fan support

from what i can tell, the reality is that steven, ryan, and shane make content (primarily) for themselves. they make content they want to make. they're trying to make content they're really proud of and excited for. any creator/artist can tell you that being excited for your own work and being the #1 cheerleader of your work is the main driving force that 1) gets work done and 2) makes the art good. for a creative, passion is hugely important. and it is a very good thing that the boys are compelled to want to up the quality and production of their shows, because that means there's a passion there that they're trying to nurse.

now, if the content they want to make requires more money, they're allowed to ask for more money. even though success in their line of work requires views and a certain level of fan support, they're allowed to act for themselves and their own creations. they're allowed to advocate for the art they want to make, art that maybe the fans aren't asking for. yes, it does shatter the misconception that they're doing all this exclusively for the fans. but it shouldn't be viewed as a breach of trust for them to simply ask that of their fans. and imo it shouldn't even be that surprising since that's the main reason they left buzzfeed in the first place—feeling creatively stifled, and feeling like they could make things they're really passionate about, if only they could make the space for themselves.

i think with all that in mind, i would say a lot of the common arguments against the move are essentially rendered void and misplaced. in the end, if someone really hated the move and felt betrayed, they could've just packed up shop and stopped watching; a lot of people did not do that, and i think their inability to cut ties with something they didn't like and was generally harmless was a fault of their own. BUT the only argument that might still stand is this: the bottom line is that if watcher won't listen to what the fans want, watcher won't last.

you're right! they won't. that's probably why they backtracked on the move.

but then i ask you what you truly want as a fan. the main "want" i've heard from people is for watcher to cut down on production/quality, and just focus on the real magic, that is the humor and chemistry between our watcher boys.

but what if watcher knows this and they still decide that they want something else? again, what if watcher wants to focus on creating something larger than two guys cracking jokes on a crappy handheld camera? if they only ever followed the fans' desires over their own, and all their videos from now on was just them shooting the shit on camera, maybe that would be just fine for you! maybe you'd love that content! but would you really be supporting watcher in the end, or would you just be supporting the versions of themselves they molded for you? could you really be a fan of theirs if you denied them the mere attempt at becoming the creatives they truly wanted to be? is getting exactly what you want all the time worth making life shittier and more stifling for the people giving it to you? is that what you wanted when you first followed watcher from buzzfeed?

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jtrohman: Up, up and away.

#boyyyyyyys

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(i bet the try guys are gonna announce a move to streaming soon too)

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The Watcher situation feels so “crab in the bucket” to me like. We all agree that YouTube is terrible and predatory for creators but don’t you dare try to leave that’s just greedy and you’re already rich???? Get back in here you assholes you’re in here with us forever now.

#watcher

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Don't get me wrong, I'm still kinda annoyed about what Watcher did despite the fact that they've gone back on it, but at the same time I hate all these channels posting videos like "the greediest channel on youtube" sometimes not even a day after the first "were quitting youtube" video came out. Like, if you can't even wait a day to make a video about a situation I think the call is coming from inside the house when it comes to greedy YouTube channels.

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like. I get being upset about watcher pivoting to streaming but acting like these three men power walked into ur actual house shot ur real life pet dog execution style right in front of ur eyes and then demanded u pay them exorbitant amounts of money for it while bathing in ur tears feels a little dramatic. TO ME lol

#hahaha #but on a real note #I hope that the folks who are hurting have someone they can talk to #some of these posts are grim af

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Idk if anyone is actually wondering about what's going on with Watcher's Patreon but I figure that as a long time Patreon supporter and a person interested in facts, I could shed a little light.

On the day of the streaming site announcement, they posted a very long post explaining in detail what changes the Patreon will go though and why. They outlined the new reward tiers and told the patrons the changes would take effect on 4/22. They also thanked everyone for their support and said that they would understand if people couldn't support the Patreon and the streaming site. They offered a 40% discount on the streaming site.

They also posted the final Watcher Weekly +, which will not be continuing. It will be replaced by PodWatcher +, which I understand to be an extension of regular PodWatcher.

They also posted a slate for the new streamer, stating "we don't want anyone to feel like they're making a blind decision"

For a few days there was nothing, then today (4/21) there was a (suspected to be) scheduled post reminding everyone of the changes to reward tiers.

About an hour later, they posted saying that the podcast would be postponed this week, and they hope we understand, and they are excited to share the episodes with us. The comments were disabled on this post only.

Okay that's the facts.

It needs to be said that there are a few patrons commenting that they are upset about paying a year membership and then having the reward tiers changed to things they don't care about, and that is totally valid. Watcher or Patreon needs to refund these people ASAP, and in my opinion information about refunds for annual subscriptions should have been brought up by the Watcher team. This is really the only criticism I've seen on the Patreon that hasn't been shared a hundred times already, that's why I'm stating it here.

I've seen a lot of exaggeration and speculation on the state of the Patreon, so I just thought I would add some perspective. I've also seen some saying that they are "silencing critique" by disabling comments on the most recent Patreon post. Which is silly, the comments on the other posts they've made this week are still open and there are plenty of negative comments there. Some positive ones too.

#watcher #patreon

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The internet is not handling being dumped by Watcher very well lmao

#i dont think ive ever personally witnessed such a massive collective grieving process #watcher #i wonder when they’ll all arrive at collective acceptance