#Children are seen as dumb and it's disheartening because they're not

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I’ve seen people talk about the main theme of the owl house being acceptance, and I think they’re completely right about that. But I haven’t really seen anyone look at the sub themes depicted in the show around the acceptance theme.

Specifically how the owl house is really advocating for child autonomy. Specifically in the ways of discipline, showing that communicating and talking with children ends up being a lot more beneficial and effective than punishing them.

The most obvious example comes with the collector, where instead of talking to him, King’s dad punished the kid by putting him in essentially time out, for the actions of his siblings. Which he would’ve learned if he had talked to the collector. And then following that, every interaction before talking with Luz, has the collector being used or placated in some way instead of being treated like an actual child due to the amount of power he has. The titan trappers revering him as some sort of god, Belos manipulating him, and even king attempting to appease the collector, instead of really talking to him. Though for king it’s a bit more understandable. Even so, the show showcases the collector’s change only after he’s talked to like a person, and then shown why his views were wrong.

Luz, who’s the main focus of the show, has her character arc and journey centered around being punished for her not fitting in at school. And while, yes, some of Luz’s antics that were shown seemed to be legitimately dangerous, the real solution would’ve been to talk with her and teach her about safety and why bringing wild animals and fireworks into a school building is dangerous. It should have also been that Luz should be able to talk and negotiate with her teacher about what would be acceptable for her projects with her endless creativity. The solution was not to essentially punish Luz for being creative, and what that only did was make her feel worse about herself and more isolated from the people she thought would be on her side. And then we were shown in thanks to them and for the future, Camilla’s growth into understanding that not talking to Luz about this, and essentially forcing her into normality, was not the way to go about things.

And we see this theme again, with Willow forced into the abomination track because her parent’s thought that was what was best for her, until she was able to showcase her skills and switch to what she was actually good at. Alador realizing he missed a lot of Amity’s growth by not talking to her, and then making it up to Amity by letting her set the boundaries and reestablishing their relationship. Odalia being controlling and not listening to her children which lead to actively harming their social development, until she was confronted and then shut out. Belos manipulating Hunter, isolating him, and abusing him, not even listening to what he had to say. And all of these situations were made better and more bearable when they were given the chance to take charge and be heard.

All this, in an attempt to showcase that children can be vulnerable and malleable, but they are also smart and understanding. And instead of deciding what a child needs, it’s important to communicate with the child instead, asking what they need and listening to what they’re saying. And implementing that by guiding and supporting them, not attempting to control them to what someone else thinks is right.

Children are smart and observant, they just need to be taught how to communicate, and viewed and thought of as actual human beings.

In a way, the owl house is attempting to advocate for it’s audience, and that’s beautiful.

#the owl house #toh #toh spoilers #toh season finale #luz nozeda #toh hunter #willow park #amity blight #child autonomy #honestly i think it's a really important thing to be taught to everyone at every age #Children are seen as dumb and it's disheartening because they're not #they're open to new ideas and possibilities and not yet stifled by their own learned w-orld veiw #and they don't know everything so that's why they need to be taught #refusing to teach them ultimately takes away any chance of growth #no kid is a lost cause #and kids can understand when something is wrong #ignoring them looses the chance for the kid to learn how to understand and indepen-dently come up with a solution later #toh meta

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"Acksshtually if we interpreted the bible correctly it would be a very good leftist based religion"

Cool! Unfortunately the problem isn't necessarily the bible, it's the religion, and the fact every christian has their own personal version of said religion. And none of them have read the bible.

Does it matter what the instruction manual says when everyone can and does what they want without it?

Christianity has a plethora of versions, but they all end the same way "I'm morally above and allowed because Jesus" it's an excuse not to think, not to self-reflect. If the bible was more lefty, it'd ask you to reconsider, not quadruple down with your own ideology applied to it and give you literally God as a teammate to lynch gays and browns.

But that's just me, looking at it as the situation is, and the "interpretations" are, which is that: You can only utilize the hateful parts of the religion, but you can't do shit in any country with the "good" parts.

Give away your belongings to the poor? Well that's dumb! This is america, if I do that, I go homeless!

Yeah maybe times change and certain parts of the instruction manual become outdated, specifically all the "good" parts because the way we run things these days is counter to the fairytales in these books. America is far closer to a religion of the rich than ever christian. But again, the instruction manuals just outdated, you can leave out the parts about being a good person, just stick with the parts that say "hate people for being different"

Idunno. It's kinda like comparing how you should play minecraft to how people actually play minecraft. Sure, some mostly build and play survival, but most are doing all sorts of gamemodes that hardly have relevance to minecraft. Hardly anyone plays minecraft purely vanilla survival anymore.

The bible spawned interpretations, and every single one is "hate the different" that doesn't happen without a catalyst from within it. Minercaft isn't fascist despite Notch working on it. Point being: The religious chose the worst parts and that is their religion, it's all they chose to know of their religion. That is the religion. Hate. The only difference is there's a company that keeps interpretations within a bubble.

In this instance the main difference is the allowment of other playstyles. Christianity is hard fascism through and through. It doesn't allow anything other than christianity. And only certain kinds, the hateful ones, are allowed into the public label.

Otherwise why are there mostly bigotted christians you hear about? Sure, negative news cycles n such, but I've never seen a christian do good without strings attached.

Idunno, I guess I just find it funny how every politician and CEO has modified Christianity every other while to their own personal beliefs and instead of ever questioning, the religious just allow and excuse.

God is used by children to rationalize an angry drunken parent from further mindless abuse. Not adults in actual real life situations discussing whether or not people should be allowed exist.

Idunno, but christianity has literally never not had strings attached to their actions. I do good for the fun of it. That's not comendable, it's standard, it's human, it's the fucking baseline. The want to do good is inherent.

They do good because it makes their boss happy, not because it's enjoyable or makes sense. If there's no benefit, they wouldn't even try to have an appearance of good. And at that point, they're not doing good for good's sake, they're doing good to please, and that's genuinely disheartening. We need good people in the world, not religious people, mostly not the christians.

It's incredible how maby religions there are, literally almost all bad, but america chose the most counter culture possible choice they could. You got a religion that runs counter to politics and our current government, and a religion that's stuck in the 100s in 2023. All so they can excuse their feelings of irrational bigotry and hate.

Christianity! It stopped being genuine a long time ago.