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#I’m using the more extreme characterizations of Wes and Vlad for this
starwrighter · 7 months
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1/?? Halloween prompt
I’ve got brain rot for creepy Deadserious content but only when it’s only seen as creepy by outsiders. (I know I’m writing a fic with a similar plot but it’s different I swear! Also my grammar is shit because I’m getting dental work done tomorrow and I’m nervous) Tw for stalker behavior
So Damian has a crush on Danny and immediately goes about acting on these feelings much to onlookers horror. Danny is swooning because someone made the effort to do a background check on him. Danny thinks Damian doing this is really smart because, he could be a serial killer for ancients sake why would you risk that? Others say this is a horrible invasion of privacy.
Damian not realizing he's being creepy (being liminal and being an ex assassin, turned vigilante wasn't doing him any favors) Plus Danny also not realizing it's creepy unless you relay Damian behavior towards him with different names.
Damian's just being a textbook stalker, breaking into his house and shit and Danny's all like "awwww he likes me" because this is just normal ghostly courting rituals! His dormroom isn't his lair so Damian breaking in doesn't feel like he's violating any sort of boundary. To him it's like a friend showing up at the coffee shop you work at to say hi.
Danny's had stalkers before, he's very cautious of his behavior to insure he never stalked anyone. Being stalked back in Amity was a horrific experience for him. From cameras in the locker rooms at school (wes) to cameras in his bathroom and bedroom at home (Vlad)! He couldn't feel safe anywhere! To Danny Damian's not a stalker, he's his protector. Nobody seems to understand when he tries to explain this though they just look at him like he's lost his mind.
Damian’s not subtle at all and Danny’s kicking his feet like a lovesick school girl who found out her crush likes her back. Overall it’s super cute from their points of view Damian’s planning an official confession to ask him on a date while Danny’s trying to figure out if Damian actually likes him or is just being nice. They’re just doing normal couple things but people just jump and attack Damian’s character while painting Danny as some kind of brainwashed victim.
The thing is… Danny’s become very good at appearing normal while Damian refuses to pretend to be a bumbling idiot like the rest of his family. He also refuses to dull down his personality for anything other than secret identity reasons. For these reasons since their relationship had become public, Damian had been painted by the media as a creepy possessive boyfriend who threatened Danny into a relationship. This infuriates Danny, the only one doing any kind of possession is him god damn it!
They want to be around each other all the time and that’s normal behavior for ghost/liminal couples! They live much longer than regular humans do they’re like elves, their perceptions of time are messed up. They still spend time apart they still have hobbies and an independent life, people just get hung up on the amount of time they do spend together. It’s normal behavior for them to know mountains of information about each others interests to the point they almost know more than each other. It’s normal to know each other’s schedules and background check the people they associate with. (The realms are very dangerous with shapeshifters and manipulators like spectra and Desiree who can ruin your afterlife in a matter of minutes) Their relationship is creepy to those who haven’t gone to extremes to survive.
Damian has taken to ignoring the reputation press has given him. He’s dealt with paparazzi and tabloids before it’s just frustrating to deal with. It’s when people start accusing him of hurting his beloved that really pisses him off.
(Bonus if Danny’s the one frothing at the mouth to maul a reporter while they try to paint him as a poor innocent victim)
I’mma end the prompt with this so everyone understands why Damian specifically being targeted by press. The more liminal you are the more creepy/uncanny you appear to other people and the more effort you have to put in to hide it. It’s why the bats are more believed to be Eldritch creatures than actual humans in suits. Surprisingly becoming a Halfa completely changes this effect to do the complete opposite. It’s easier for the human brain to look at a halfa and think “Innocent or normal,” Vlad and Danny were morons when it came to actually hiding their identity’s it was only their statuses as halfa’s that prevented people from comprehending them being anything other than normal.
In short Damian’s too dead to be perceived as normal while Danny’s too alive to be perceived as anything other than normal.
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Murder Children & Fate
Hello we’re going to talk about a trope I like to call “murder children”.
Introduction
I think before I can start talking about murder children I should first explain what it is. As its name implies, it’s a character who either is, or looks, like a child, and kills or is interested in killing. I do not care if the character is actually 18 or older or whatever the original source material suggests—if they look like a child and are into murder, they fit into this trope.
This is a pretty popular trope, especially in Japanese media, and it has a varying degree of success. A lot of times it’s a murder little girl character. This relates to some gross stuff and while it would be great to talk about the disgusting stuff, we’re going to focus on how to write a good murder child, and how to not.
We’ll be doing this by looking at the fate series, as I’m a huge fate fan and this is the series I know the most about.
The fate series has had a murder child since its inception. This began with Illyasviel, a character who, while she is technically 18 years old, looks like a child and in her first scene, joyfully tells Shirou that if he doesn’t summon a servant he’s going to die. This has continued as fate grows, with most of the fate spin-offs having a murder child. The only one I can personally think of off the top of my head that doesn’t have a murder child is CCC (and that’s still tentative because Elizabeth returns in CCC).
With Grand Order, we have a lot more murder children. The majority are girls but depending on how you view young Gilgamesh—how he is portrayed in Prisma Illya certainly suggests that he would fit into this category—we also have three boys.
So, we are going to dissect two of my favourite characters to demonstrate how this trope can be used to say something, and how not to.
Illyasviel von Einzbern
We’re going to focus on Stay Night for hopefully obvious reasons. Prisma Illya, while it is so close to making things interesting with Kuro, falls short and ultimately removes what made Illya interesting in the original visual novel up to the point where they had to reintroduce the original main character to make the series interesting again. But I digress.
As mentioned previously, Illya is the first murder child in the fate series. In my opinion, she is the best written. Again, I hate to be that person, but if you have the time, please read the original visual novels (novels because she does show important development in Hollow Ataraxia as well).
In the original visual novels, we learn why she acts the way she does and why she has a world view that rivals what Shirou believes in. She’s in this war to prove herself, not simply to the Einzberns, but Kiritsugu, and eventually, Shirou. She wishes to prove that despite having basically grown up by herself, she is strong, and will win the war. She pushes herself past what’s healthy for her and summons a servant that most mages would not be able to control. She’s the pinnacle of the Einzbern homunculi and if she does not win, then even the epitome of homunculi construction is useless and should be abandoned. She has a lot weighing on her shoulders.
Furthermore, she has this extreme interest in Shirou. Illya is raised believing that Kiritsugu deceives her and abandons her. She’s orphaned in this cold, empty mansion. She wishes for revenge for what Kiritsugu does to her. When she learns that she cannot get this revenge, she turns her attention to the next best thing: Shirou.
She’s jealous of him. She was left behind and Shirou got the life she wanted. She becomes enraptured in him—resulting in her kidnapping him in the Fate route and also killing him a lot in the Fate route too—and wishes to figure out what it is about him. What is it about Shirou that made it so that he was the one chosen, and not her?
This all culminates into her personality. She’s seen as a murder child because she’s seen so much death at a young age having lost both of her parents early. She has a sense of superiority because at the beginning of the war, well, isn’t she the best master? She has, by all accounts, what is considered the strongest servant and has the magical prowess to control him. Finally, she has this obsession with Shirou because she feels like he took her place. This already puts her characterization leaps and bounds against the second murder child we’ll be using for contrast.
Roche Frain Yggdmillennia
If you know anything about me, you know that I love this guy. So, I am biased. Plus, it’s pretty easy to make fun of Apocrypha. A lot of Roche’s issues stem from the fact that Apocrypha is a series where each servant is trying to fight for more time, leaving most characters not fleshed out before they are killed off.
This also doesn’t help when comparing it to Stay Night. If Stay Night had only been one route, then Medea would have been a blip, we wouldn’t know who Archer is and we wouldn’t get the mapo tofu scene. However, with Strange Fake, we know that wars of this scale can be written well. Strange Fake only has one servant less than Apocrypha and has still been able to give everyone the time they needed. But that’s another meta post.
Out of all the servants in Apocrypha, I think Spartacus is the one that gets the worst treatment. Poor berserkers. However, if I was asked about which servant I think got the second worst treatment I would probably say it’s Avicebron. And, unlike the other black masters like Caules or Gordes who got more character development, as Roche is his master, he gets probably the worst treatment of actual masters that do anything in the war, maybe behind the actual train wreck that is Celenike.
I think that also the anime does an even worse job of allocating time to Roche. If you aren’t interested in reading the light novels, I’d recommend reading the manga, as it is overall doing a better job at showcasing Roche’s true personality. However, since most people know about the anime, I’ll be discussing that primarily, sometimes talking about how the light novels and the manga portray him to back this up.
While this is not really discussed in the anime, Roche is raised by golems. As such, he dislikes humans and is awkward around them. He considers speaking to humans like talking to animals. He does not have the interactions with humans necessary to work with them. This makes him unfit for this kind of war. The only person he deems important is Avicebron, who he calls teacher, as he is another golem mage who led the field.
He is also very much a murder child. When Vlad goes out to kill the clock tower mages, he’s happy to see them being slaughtered. Later on, in the manga, he can be seen kicking the dead homunculi. When Avicebron asks him if he’d prefer to watch from inside as to not get hurt, Roche tells him he wants to see the war up close. He enjoys seeing murder.
Furthermore, he is okay with murder as long as it leads to the activation of Avicebron’s noble phantasm. He doesn’t care about who has to die as long as he can see its activation—and ultimately for Avicebron to win, so he can continue to learn as his student.
If I did not tell you this however, and you only watched the anime, you might not see this. We only see Roche interacting with another character besides Avicebron twice: once when he rolls his eyes at Astolfo:
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(which funnily enough is one of my favourite reaction images)
And the other time, when he half-heartedly listens to Fiore’s commands and gives this expression to Gordes:
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These two scenes, besides one line at Darnic, are the only times we see of Roche interacting with other humans. Then, we have his death.
I’ve talked about his death before and how poorly executed it was, but overall because of how little time we get for Roche, it leaves the viewer confused. On one hand, it’s a young kid who is being betrayed and murdered. On the other hand, it’s a character that we have not gotten attached to and thus we don’t have the emotional impact.
Time to compare death scenes.
Death Scenes
Illyasviel doesn’t die, if you play the visual novel correctly, until Unlimited Blade Works. Illyasviel has a lot of development in the Fate route; turning from a murderous, young girl, into Taiga’s little sister who sometimes comes over for dinner. We learn more about her interest in Shirou, and how she acts as a grail. The climax of the Fate route involves Shirou going to fight Kirei to get her back. In sum, you as the reader have gotten close to Illyasviel at this point.
(Even more if you are like me and died a whole bunch in the Fate route and got to see her in the dojo)
When you reach Unlimited Blade Works, you don’t see Illyasviel as much, as the majority of the route is about Archer and Medea. However, there is the fight at the beginning, which diverges from your first fight with Illya. Arguably she acts more like the murder child in this fight, as Shirou does not take the blow from Berserker. The next scene is her death scene.
However, the scene (both in the anime and the visual novel) is very lengthy. We get the fight between Berserker and Gilgamesh that lasts a long time—it’s not 100% one-sided like some of the other Gilgamesh fights in the series. During this scene, we also get to learn about Illyasviel’s backstory and how she and Berserker originally bonded. We learn that Berserker is losing because of he’s trying to protect Illyasviel. We also see another side of her, not the more murderous side from the Fate route, but a strong, determined master who fully believes in her servant not because of her own strength, but because of her trust in her servant.
As we have seen all these sides to Illyasviel, her death hurts even more. It creates more of an impact when Berserker is taken down. We know that because of how she was raised, that with Berserker’s death, she feels fully alone.
Now let’s compare to Roche’s death scene.
At the point where Roche goes out to visit Avicebron, we’ve had basically 3 scenes of him: the first time we meet him, where he discusses Avicebron’s noble phantasm, the scene he has explaining how he does not care about how many people need to die just as long as he gets to see its activation, and then the scene where he’s talking to Caules, Fiore and Gordes. Those are the big scenes—we get a couple others sprinkled in, like the Astolfo rolling eyes scene, and in the light novel when Avicebron asks if Roche would like to watch from inside.
In the anime especially, all we really know about Roche (if people remember him) is that he’s a golem mage who is obsessed with his teacher and will do anything to see his noble phantasm come to life. In the manga, we get the added shots of him being happy at death, but also cut down on the scene of him talking about how he wants to see the noble phantasm come true. I personally don’t mind this as we already know that this is how he feels.
This is not enough time to grow attached to the character. We already know this. We also know that something bad is going to happen to Roche—heralded by Fiore screaming ‘Roche’! and then immediately after not seeming to care about his death—as he is no longer Avicebron’s master.
In the anime, because we have only seen one side of the character, we feel bad for Roche because all we know about him is his infatuation with his teacher. This makes Avicebron deceiving him hurt even more. They mess up the scene by trying to force in the fact that they are the same.
Yes, Avicebron and Roche are similar: they both hate humans and prefer not to interact with them. This leads Avicebron to wear a mask so he doesn’t have to look at them.
Yet, from the anime, we have no leads besides Roche cooping himself in Avicebron’s workshop to suggest that he dislikes humans. Him saying that he doesn’t matter who dies as long as Avicebron’s dream comes true ties back to the only character trait he has in the anime—his adoration for his teacher. The two scenes of him interacting with someone besides Avicebron? He rolls his eyes because Astolfo wants to get off without working, and him waving off Fiore’s comments can be seen as a younger brother type ignoring his older sister.
This doesn’t point to him being a murder child. This does not point to him being the same as Avicebron.
The anime shoving this in before his death makes no sense. It’s supposed to make us feel better about his death, to not be angry about it because in the end Roche is forgiving him, but because we have no real signs of him demonstrating this hatred for humans, we can only trust Roche’s word. This coming from a character who was clinging onto life just a minute prior.
A Good Murder Child
I will be honest. I don’t like this trope.
I find it’s too closely tied to disgusting things and rarely gets executed well. However, I do like Illyasviel. The things I do like about Illyasviel are not the fact that she is a murder child; but on the other hand, when those aspects of her tied to her being a murder child are removed, like in Prillya, she loses what makes her interesting to me.
Ultimately, what makes Illyasviel a good character is her relationships with the other characters.
With Shirou, we get to see a complex character. We see her as a murderous little girl in fate, but then also a younger sister at the end. In Unlimited Blade Works we have her as a strong and competent master, who in the end has one of the harshest death scenes in the fate universe. In Heaven’s Feel, she becomes the older sister to Shirou, where we get to dive into her complicated relationship with Kiritsugu and her family, as well as her feelings about Shirou and how they conflict with her world view.
This gets added on in Hollow Ataraxia with her relationship with Angra Mainyu.
Her relationship, as a younger sister to Taiga, is sweet, and hints at what Illya may have been like if she had been raised by Kiritsugu.
Finally, through her relationship with Berserker, we get to see two lost souls finding each other and fighting. We see their bond go from a master trying to get a wild dog to do what she wants to a trusting master-servant duo both worried about each other’s well-being. When one dies, the other realizes how much they depend on the other, and how lost they are without them.
What makes Illyasviel an interesting character is that she is not just a murder child.
A Bad Murder Child
Even if we look past the anime, there’s still so many problems with Roche. Again, it mostly stems from the fact that he does not get the time to develop. We are given information about him without really the story showing us this about him.
However, this also comes from the fact that we don’t get to see him interact with other people besides Avicebron.
If he had been given the opportunity to actively show his dislike for humans, then we could have a different emotion about his death besides, “oh well that happened.”
He has the backstory to give us an interesting character. We could have had him being forced to interact with the rest of the Black faction masters. Perhaps use something that Caules or Fiore does to make him realize that oh, maybe humans can be as cool as my teacher. Make a rift between him and Avicebron before that makes him think differently. Hey, maybe instead of just having Fiore scream his name out and say to look for him and then like, not care afterwards, maybe have her find him and make him choose between Avicebron and the Black Faction. Or, since Chiron and Achilles are also used to describe the teacher and student relationship, have Chiron save him.
Even if you wished to kill Roche, maybe have Roche as the core affect Adam.
Even if you wanted him to be this murder child, demonstrate why he hates even his allies. Show clear rifts between him and the other masters. Make him act like a child. Sure, the rolling the eyes and the shrugging off works, but if he hates humans, and thinks that interacting with humans is akin to talking to animals, make him fight their plans. Have him go against their plans and almost die from it.
There is so much possibilities that could have been added into the story to demonstrate his dislike of humans that unfortunately was not given the time. Thus, in the anime, he’s only given the role of liking his servant, and because of it the only memorable thing is his death.
In comparison, there is so much more to Illyasviel than one of her death scenes. So much that type moon decided she warranted a (much worse) spin off, and she almost had a route of her own. While she is introduced as a murder child, she becomes more than that through her relationships with the other characters. Something Roche was not given.
Conclusion
I would gladly like this trope to die off the face of the earth. Especially in fate where we got already enough, especially amongst the girl characters. However, if they are going to continue writing these characters, they should take a page out of Illya’s book.
Especially the Prillya mangaka in terms of Kuro. C’mon.
We are still in the process of writing the Apocrypha manga, and as I mentioned, it is doing a much better job at portraying Roche than the anime. I’m interested to see if they will change it or not.
If you would like to discuss, especially Roche because I love him, please feel free to message me! Thank you for reading this long meta post, I have a deep love for Roche and believe he deserved better.
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What this all means? WoD prelude issues
Abuse will be mentioned
Disclaimer: I don’t want VtM to become a nest for gamer-gaters asshats, so let it be clear that I stand for feminism, positive representation and progressiveness. And further than that, I stand for meaningful, well written media. This is both beyond offensive, and badly written (and badly coded!).
Alright, now that you may (or may not) have read my spoiler free review of the WoD: Prelude vampire game (we eat blood all our friends are dead), this is the second part of this review. The one that really stirs shit, tackles what this all means, and talks about the problems surrounding the two authors. Good brew incoming!
There are a few issues that need mentioning; Zak’s reputation of being a dick (to say the least), white wolf saying they don’t give a shit, and one trans character in the game.
First, I must say I said what I needed to about Sarah (the second author of the Vampire gale) in a few reblogged discussions I had with her about it; you can read that here. She claims the “problematic trans character” is a reference to someone else, but as the anon in that ask pointed out, the name given to the character totally references someone else (and it’s not like Avery is a common first name, so the “coincidence” excuse is weak, to say the least). It’s probably a little bit of both tbh. White wolf stands behind their choice btw.
This is my random, worthless opinion on the trans character’s subject: I don’t think the trans community deserves to be treated like this, and I’m not going to police whether trans people can talk about their dicks (or lack thereof) or not. Sarah likes her characters bold and unapologetic, which is perfectly “none of my fucking business”, I just find that it gives too much of an excuse for people to actually ask trans people about their dicks (or not) which is a definite no-no when it comes to, you know, basic manners. Why encourage that? Most trans people do not want to talk about it to random strangers they’ve just met, so why have that be the main representation of trans people in the media? Sex workers who brag about their dicks and who are serial killers? I find it tasteless at best, dangerous (again, “hey, if this is what trans people are, i totally can ask about their dicks!” kind of shits) at worst. Not that sex workers who talk about their dicks are wrong in anyway, of course. Note that I have no problem with a character being trans, being a serial killer, or being a loud unapologetic bitch. I have a problem with what it may lead to, and how respectful of/to the community the character is. And it’s simply not written with the respect and the love the trans community deserves. The fact that Sarah herself is trans doesn’t make her a good candidate to write well-made (trans or not) characters. I’m all for more diversity in authors (cuz it’s still a bunch of white old dudes out there), but they still need to be good writers (or at least more decent than the shit that’s being published nowadays). Writer is a job. And this is were Zak and Sarah failed; they just didn’t work with basic decency, respect and research of the characters, and what they are, what they represent and what they mean to the community. The fact that White Wolf Publishing used the “but we have a X friend!” excuse only makes it more profoundly wrong. And you guys can’t even blame that on Europeanism (racism takes very different forms here than in the US, certain things are more blurred, and ethnicity is overall understood differently), even in France we consider the use of a token minority person to excuse controversial stuff to be just plain wrong (and god knows France can be very weird about the treatment of minorities). 
If you’re trans and knowledgeable of trans representation, please tell me off about this. It’s just my thoughts on the matter as someone who cares deeply about characters.
The other trans character, Morgan, exchanges like, four texts with you. So, this character’s existence gave nothing to my run. I need to replay the thing and see if other choices give us more interaction with this one, and I really have no problem with this one so far.
Now, the “unique aesthetic” that was brought to the game, I could find interesting modern artists on tumblr to draw for this game, and actually have their modern art be readable, as in, “really in accord with the game’s content (a quick sketch needs to be a quick sketch)”. I can also guess that it would come out far cheaper than whatever this guy took (I hear he sells his art pieces in the thousands? people, you’ve got too much money on your hands, give it to me instead).
The writing, however, I’m pretty sure (read absolutely certain) there are very knowledgeable wod fans out there who can decently hold a pen (half of the RPers I exchange with can come up both with a decent story and can write it out in a very.. literary and interesting way, and so without having to sort through the bs ramble that brings nothing, and without the “options” branches that lead to just a game over screen...).
Zak’s reputation of being a harasser and abuser doesn’t seem too far fetched from where I stand, especially since people who complained have said that White Wolf never contacted them back, even if they said they did. I can’t say deffo what he did or didn’t, but I can certainly assure you that the choice of White Wolf knowingly hiring the guy, then defending him, all while knowing all of this shit, and having one of their writers be one of the victims of the abuse, is not an innocent move from WW/Paradox.
We wanted fresh blood, fresh views, fresh takes, and they willingly hire a veteran known for beyond “problematic” behavior. And excusing all this shit because “but he’s an artist!” doesn’t cut it. Not from White Wolf. Not from a Scandinavian company. Not in the world we live in today. Not with the very talented people who are fans of the WoD and who can come up with something so much better, so much smoother, so much more respectful, and without all this negative publicity. This isn’t just some loud mouth rough corners guy (like I can admit I am!! let’s be honest I’m a harsh bitch lol), this is seriously.. wrong. It leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth, and tbh, Werewolf already has a reputation of being a game played by fascists, and LARPs are known hunting grounds for less-than-polite predators, why fucking continue this fucking shit? This isn’t what we want our hobby to be. This isn’t the kind of people I or anyone around me want to be associated with. Art is political in nature, but that doesn’t mean I am willing to accept the company owning the IP I love most hiring fucking extremist assholes. Everyone has a “problematic opinion” on something, honestly, that’s fine, I mean I get my share of anon hate for many of those, but can you guys straightforward tell me I’m a bad person doing evil and spreading evil into the gaming industry? (If I am tell me now so I can quit!)
TBH, I believe they hired Zak because he was a known “controversial figure”. To have free publicity. To pander to the GG community (EDIT: I failed here, I wanted to say “attract extremes”, Zak is not a gamergater at all). To get everyone angry about “the gay agenda”, “modern art” and more. They’ve succeeded. But it’ll blow up in their faces, and I really want us all to show them this is not acceptable.
What to do now? Be heard. Show your displeasing of such choices. Don’t let them have it their way with an IP you care about. They may own the rights, but ultimately, as Brucato (Mage RPG author), the games belong to us, the fans. Write to white wolf, boycott. Do not harass and insult, but tell them exactly what you think.
There are free visual novels out there, and cheaper princess makers who have more interesting outcomes, badges, achievements, easter eggs, all sorts of different endings if you fail/die, and all sorts of different failure paths that still let you play, and replay, and replay, without feeling frustrated, fucked over, and just plain trying to follow some incoherent druggie’s trail of thoughts.
Here’s a few things I recommend playing, to read how good characterization, art and horror can come around, as well as player agency and choices that mean you continue playing despite failures (linking steam, but gog works too for most of them). So here’s a few games you deffo wanna try out instead of these.
Long live the Queen
Actual “Princess Maker” games :)
Cupid (I can’t recommend @cupidvn enough, it’s  great free game, it has a few flaws considering it’s purely fanmade but overall, it’s very interesting and treats the subject with a good amount of respect)
This war of mine
Choice of vampire (free on web, available as a mobile app)
Vlad the Impaler A very awesome replayable story, you pick one of three characters who has one of two specializations mid game depending on your choices. Just. Get Vlad. It’s great.
I’d also mention an Actual Lone Wolf (by Dever!) video game/visual novel/cyoa. 
Heavy Rain (PS3) So many choices, and the game goes on regardless of what happens. The illusion of choice is so well made. Beyond Two Souls also does this fairly well, but the story is more linear 
The Last of Us (the MC is still a 40 something rough guy, but there’s more to it I promise! there’s no “choice” to be had, but the characterization is great)
And finally, I highly recommend watching like, all of Extra Credits videos about game making, characterization, illusion of choice and so on. They did a playlist. And other one about genres that might come in handy.
I’m very close to angrily make the text/choice/agency/multiple paths adventure we all need and deserve, and publish it for free... But I really don’t have the time, nor the funds, nor the skills, nor the legal knowledge to make it. So if someone wants to, know that I have a hot story that’s worth telling to initiate new players to the WoD :)))
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