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If all of KoA's, Anne's and Jane's pregnancies had been with girls, and Henry Fitzroy was also female (for fun let's assume Henry literally can't have a son that lives for some reason) would he finally accept female heirs? Or - if Henry had been supportive of his daughter as first queen regnant (maybe he thinks this will show off how impressive their dynasty is, producing the first "competent" female ruler) but still divorced Katherine for Anne, what reason would he give for it?

This question seems familiar. Have I answered it before or did I just answer it in my head?

Just in case, we’ll say it was the latter.

First off, considering how misogynistic society of the 16th century was, I don’t think the thought of his dynasty being “impressive” by having the first Queen regnant would have ever crossed his mind. Besides, he actually is the father of the first recognized Queen regnant but is that the first thing you think of when someone says Henry VIII?

Also, again, in real life, Henry kind of did accept female heirs in the Succession Act of 1543 because, actually, at that point, every person in the Tudor line of succession was a woman except Edward so barring the possibility of Edward having sons, it was almost inevitable that a woman would inherit the throne.

And people seem to have this idea that Henry wanting a male heir = he hated women...which just isn’t true? But also that, he was the only one who believed women couldn’t rule in their own right?

Like even during Elizabeth I’s reign, everyone at court would’ve still rather had a king. I always think of that scene in the Doctor Who episode “The Shakespeare Code” where Shakespeare is going on about the inferiority and frailty of women and Martha points out that the Queen is a woman and Shakespeare responds “Ah but that’s God’s business” and I think that’s exactly how everyone thought of it. Ideally, they would have a King but Monarchs were appointed by divine right and God chose a woman and it wasn’t their place to question divine authority so they just dealt with it.

So onto the actual AU, I think if Jane had a daughter and then promptly died, Henry wouldn’t have mourned her the way he did in real life so I think he would’ve gotten married a lot sooner after her death. Assuming he still didn’t (or couldn’t as you suggest) have any sons with any subsequent wives, I think eventually he would’ve accepted a female heir. It’s possible he might have considered not barring the Scots from the succession and allowed Janes V to inherit but then James died a little over 4 years before Henry anyway (even before the Succession Act of 1543).

As for your other question...I mean the reason for the divorce in real life was Catherine’s previous marriage to Arthur? Henry may have had the ulterior motive of wanting a son, but the main “official” reason was the previous marriage. So I imagine the case would be the same in your AU.

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This Is the Difference Between a Princess and a Duchess

Juliana LaBiancaOct 05

Is it possible to be both?

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If Disney movies taught us anything, it’s that when you marry a prince, you become a princess. So it was a bit of a shock that when Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle married into the royal family, we were all expected to call them duchesses. Obviously, Princess Kate and Princess Meghan sound much better. That got us thinking, how do you become a princess, anyway? And what makes them different from duchesses? Beginners should check out this chart that breaks down the royal family tree.

It turns out, there are two ways to become a British princess: to be born the daughter of a prince (which is why Princess Charlotte’s children won’t have royal status), or to marry one. On top of that, only those born into the royal family can use the title princess (or prince, for that matter) before their name.

It’s confusing, because while Kate Middleton is not Princess Kate—her title is Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge—she is a princess. On her wedding day, she took on her husband’s title, making her Princess William of Wales, in addition to Her Royal Highness, Duchess of Cambridge. Prince George’s birth certificate also lists her official occupation as Princess of the United Kingdom. Similarly, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, could be called Princess Henry of Wales.

This is also the reason why Prince Andrew’s daughters Beatrice and Eugenie are princesses, but the daughter of Princess Anne, Zara Phillips, is not. A child’s parents can also decide against bestowing the title upon their children, which is why Prince Edward’s daughter, Louise Windsor, is a lady instead of a princess. The BBC writes that Prince Edward and his wife decided against the title. Learn the 10 unusual royal ceremonies and traditions you’ve never heard of.

After the royal titles of king, queen, prince, and princess come the five noble ranks: duke and duchess (the members of nobility that rank right below the monarch), marquess and marchioness, earl and countess, viscount and viscountess, and baron and baroness. These nobles are referred to as lords and ladies (the exception being dukes and duchesses, who are referred to as “Your Grace”), according to Merriam-Webster. Princes and princesses often hold dukedoms.

Of course, the Queen has free reign over all of this. “The monarch may offer to bestow a royal title upon his or her daughter’s children,” says Lucy Hume, associate director of Debrett’s, to Town and Country. “For Peter and Zara Phillips, the Queen offered to give them a royal title when they were born, but Princess Anne and Captain Phillips opted to decline this offer.”

That said, befriending the queen isn’t likely to lead to being named a princess—although there’s got to be a first for everything. Here are 12 times the royal family broke its own protocol.

10 Myths About the Royal Family That Are Totally False

The Mall in London was intended as an emergency airstrip

Alex Segre/ShutterstockThe royal family takes its security seriously, but that doesn’t mean every landscaping feature has an ulterior use. According to this theory, the 0.58-mile road leading to Buckingham Palace was intended as an airstrip. That way, the royal family could be evacuated via plane in case of emergency. It’s an interesting idea, but unfortunately, the Mall would make a lousy runway. The road is about a mile too short for any modern aircraft, and is lined by lampposts and buildings that would make takeoff impossible. However, helicopters can, and do, land on the Palace’s lawn. Curious about the royal family’s other air adventures? This is how much the family spend on travel this year.

Queen Elizabeth I was a man

Historia/ShutterstockQueen Elizabeth I—also referred to as the Virgin Queen, due to the fact that she never married—is remembered as one of the greatest leaders of England. And because of her strong leadership qualities, some misogynists of the time decided the Virgin Queen must have been a man in disguise. The myth was first printed by Bram Stoker, the author of Dracula, in his 1910 book Famous Imposters. Stoker believed that at some point in Elizabeth’s childhood, she was sent to the countryside to escape the plague. Unfortunately, the young princess fell ill and died. When the feared King Henry VIII came to visit her, Elizabeth’s caretakers decided to replace her with a similarly aged child, rather than anger the king. Because there were no girls to choose from, the governess found a young boy and dressed him in Elizabeth’s clothes. The king was never the wiser, and according to Stoker’s belief, the young farm boy went on to rule the country. And before you assume Stoker was just trying to stir the pot, History Answers notes that the novelist was totally certain he had the story right.

Kate Middleton loves almond milk

REX/ShutterstockThe Duchess of Cambridge shut this one down herself. At one afternoon tea event at a charity cafe, volunteers served Kate almond milk after hearing a rumor that’s what she liked. “Don’t believe everything you read,” said the duchess. “I don’t even like almond milk.” These are the nine bizarre eating habits of the royal family, according to their personal chef.

The queen has no actual power

WILL OLIVER/EPA-EFE/ShutterstockObviously, the United Kingdom operates as a parliamentary democracy—but that doesn’t mean the sovereign is a powerless figurehead. In times of crisis, it wouldn’t be out of bounds for the queen to declare war. Similarly, the queen creates orders of knighthood and appoints the prime minister after a general election or resignation.

King George VI and Queen Elizabeth stayed in London during WWII

Historia/ShutterstockIn order to show citizens that the royal family was taking on the same dangers and rations as the rest of the country, King George VI and his wife, Queen Elizabeth, officially spent World War II at Buckingham Palace in London, despite near-constant German bombings. In fact, the family spent the majority of their nights and weekends at Windsor Castle in Berkshire. Talk about a rough commute: the residences are about an hour and a half drive apart. The couple’s daughters, Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret, lived full-time at Windsor Castle during the war. These are the 17 secrets you never knew about Windsor Castle.

Prince Charles requires seven hard-boiled eggs for breakfast

REX/ShutterstockAccording to this rampant rumor, which was first published by Jeremy Paxman in his book On Royalty in 2006, Prince Charles has seven boiled eggs cooked for him each morning, but only eats one. That way, he can choose the precise level of cooked-ness he’d like that day. The Palace chose to set the record straight. In 2012, the Prince of Wales published an FAQ on his website. “Does The Prince of Wales have seven boiled eggs cooked for his breakfast but only eat one, as claimed in Jeremy Paxman’s book ‘On Royalty‘?” one question asks. The answer: “No, he doesn’t and never has done, at breakfast or any other time.”

The queen has four drinks a day

REX/ShutterstockIn the summer of 2017, Queen Elizabeth’s former personal chef Darren McGrady was misquoted as saying the queen drinks four cocktails each day. That means she’d be a binge drinker by government standards. When several other tabloids picked up the story, McGrady reached out to make a correction. It turns out, he had been listing the queen’s favorite drinks, not the ones she has each day. “I’m pretty confident she doesn’t have four drinks a day,” McGrady told Reader’s Digest. “She’d be pickled.” These are the nine foods Queen Elizabeth would never, ever eat.

There is an infestation of rare spiders under Windsor Castle

sloukam/ShutterstockIn 2001, British tabloids went wild over reports that engineers at Windsor Castle found swarms of spiders in the utility tunnels underneath the residence. According to some not-so-reliable sources, the spiders were thought to be either a new species or a species that had thought to have been extinct for thousands of years. The spiders were supposedly nine centimeters, venomous, and had jaws strong enough to penetrate human skin. Scary stuff! Fortunately for everyone who visits the castle, the rumor was quickly dispelled. The spiders were a totally ordinary species, harmless, and only about four centimeters.

If the Union flag is flying, the queen must be home

REX/ShutterstockWe understand the confusion on this one; flags are a confusing way to communicate. But it’s not the Union Jack that you’re looking for to signify the queen’s presence, it’s the Royal Standard. If the Union flag (the national flag of the United Kingdom) is flying, the queen is away. Instead, look for the Royal Standard. You can identify it by its red, gold, and blue colors. This is the one color you’ll almost never find on national flags.

Prince Charles will never be king

Tim Rooke/ShutterstockBecause Prince William (and his adorable family) are so popular, there’s a widespread belief that Queen Elizabeth could skip Prince Charles in the line of succession and name Prince William and Kate Middleton the next king and queen. According to People, this will never happen. The queen doesn’t have the power to choose her successor and Prince Charles is unlikely to abdicate—and if there’s one thing the royal family hates doing, it’s breaking with tradition. There are a few exceptions: here are 12 times the royal family has changed its protocol.

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