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jazajas · 4 years

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okay so i finished love, victor a while ago and i saw some other reviews and thoughts about it here so now i've got a pretty good list on my thoughts and feelings.

tl;dr: it has some issues, yes, but im gonna hold out and hope it gets better later on because the same thing happened with the first few eps, i wasn't that into it but then it got good, and nothing is ever great with the first season, because at that point we're getting used to those characters.

⚠️caution: spoilers ahead (im on mobile, i cant get an under-the-cut)⚠️

1. while a leah on the offbeat movie would have been amazing movie sequel (even tho i havent read the book yet, im just here for the wlw content) i am kind of glad we got this instead. mostly because I've seen book series where one movie was good, so they decide to do the rest, turn out bad (hunger games? divergent? percy jackson? the hobbit?) because so much was cut from the book-to-first movie writing, that other scenes wouldn't make sense to future movies if they had those in while cutting others. however, i am sad that i didn't get to make the choice of deciding whether what was cut was wrong etc. about future movies, but i'll take what i can get.

2. LGBTQ+ POC as a lead! that's amazing! as a ace/bi lantina that's close to home (it also is great that victor's from texas and so is ya gorl) and even then it's a mixed latinx family! i think pilar mentioned that at least the grandmother left Colombia and i saw the Puerto Rican flag in victor's room. also the salazar's are definitely from small town texas, even without knowing the name. (church barbeques, the use of the words "such a diverse city" in regards to atlanta)

3. a lack of actual lgbtq+ main storylines (so far) is kind of sad for a show like this. i was getting serious bi/pan vibes (as a lot of other people) from victor from the beginning, and when it was implied that victor was actually gay (while great, not shaming) as it has been brought to my attention, there was a lot of looking at a lot of straight relationship problems (please let us know more about benji)- edit 6/18: upon further consideration, it very much is a show about questioning your sexuality, I'm speaking about the other straight relationship issues, not mia and Victor's, its just the first season.

4. let us talk about cheating for a sec. never okay, in any circumstance. i feel sorry for mia that she saw victor making out with benji and the fact that he was doing any of that in the first place. victor made a choice to lie about the espresso machine and then kissed benji at the hotel and then when benji was fighting with derek, basically confessed his love and mistakes, then proceeded to makeout with benji after he broke up with derek, he built that grave and now he must lie in it. i get having feelings for a guy when you are in a relationship with a girl, and not accepting yourself enough to end that relationship but you really want it to work so you can be "normal". really, he should have told mia after he got back from the trip tho. i get being in highschool and doing stupid stuff and making dumb decisions, but for a show aimed at teens i think we should also remind said teens to make good choices even if we have to lose some realism within the character choices.

4. pilar and her decisions based off her brother pissed me off. because i honestly think that if she'd kept her mouth shut about what she knew or confronted victor about it in the first place we could have avoided a LOT of mess. did she not learn from snooping around her mother's business about her relationships that going behind a person's back doesnt end well? i did, however, like the pilar/felix friendship and was really kind of hoping that they'd get together during their coffee hangout (although now im glad that didn't happen) because they had a deeper understanding of each other. same with wendy/felix, although they do seem to much alike to work out in the long run but i still feel bad for wendy.

5. i don't know how i feel about lake and andrew, as people separate from each other. both seem to be the way they are from their upbringing (not confirmed why andrew is such an ass, but if his comment about his dad is anything to go by i bet it's got something to do with attention) but andrew seems to be less, idk, superficial? like he turned down mia because he didn't want to be a rebound, he didn't out victor, he actually stood up to early teasing the other dudes in the lockerroom were doing at victor (with teasing of his own obviously but that interaction had him on my nice list until much later). lake? lake. i honestly don't have an opinion of her? not really. i mean after hanging out with pilar i was hoping felix wouldn't go back to lake. is her name laken? i feel like her full name is laken. but they also played the "im only like this because my mom is really superficial about stuff and i do like the geeky nice guy but appearances" to "actually screw the norms im gonna makeout with him infront of the whole student body". i honestly thought she was gonna be bi because she kept hitting on mia when she was helping set up for her "date" and "big night" and there was one point where i saw her face fall at something mia said in relation to her and idk i was hoping she'd be bi (i figured early on that victor/mia wasnt gonna work and was like "oh mia/lake would be cute" but now idk.

6. okay on to the "big night", i have one word. NO. i didn't like the peer pressure into having sex. i agreed with felix when he said "your body your choice" but im also disappointed that victor made out with mia and when lake was talking to felix after victor left he didn't try to stand up for victor.

7. on to age gaps because i hadn't really thought of this at first. we'll start with benji/derek: WHAT GRADE IS BENJI?! because that determines my thoughts. if he's a sophomore that meant that he and Derek started dating benji's freshman year and thats eugh, don't do that, don't care if its a gay couple that shouldn't be happening because the maturity of the two characters is DRASTICALLY different (this is also a reason i am not a fan of cmbyn) but that would explain why they were so rocky. hoping the event at the gay bar was open to anyone not just for drinking, but not liking that fact that not one of the adults with victor were like: hey, this is a 16 year old, that's kind of wack when that dude was hitting on victor. that made me question some stuff. although i figure it might be making up for the lack of a gay bar scene in love, simon. but even then, in svthsa it's a restaurant with a bar that some people go to just to drink at, it wasn't just a bar, simon could be there but should NOT have accepted drinks from college kids, not matter how attractive.

8. i loved how bram and simon and their friends helped victor out though. i like how bram was like: hey i know my friends are a lot so here's a gay basketball league becaue there's no one way to be gay. i like how Simon talked about needing help himself just to help victor and how he said his friends were cool with it because it's a community. i like of justin(?) mentioned how being what his parents wanted was putting on a mask and pretending, not him doing drag. my favorite lines from that ep are: "and before you ask my pronouns are they/them/theirs" "'they're all gay? even that guy? he's like [insert really tall number]' 'yeah. you should see him in heels'" "or in simon's case: really unathletic" "and also because bram said that if i wore [the jean jacket] one more time he'd burn it". also katya was there. and the group hug too!

9. the back hand homophobia in relation to family is sad, but realistic and i sincerely hope his parents are kind enough not to be too harsh on victor because of it. anything they say that isn't positive or supportive of victor is bad but i hope they realize that there is more to him than that and that they can come to terms with it because it's not always that hard to be a part of that community and super religious. i am biromantic and catholic. and while there are some things i wont agree on my mom with, i know that it's more of a strike against God for kicking out gay kids from families than it is to be gay, because those parents were given trust by GOD to love those kids no matter what, and be good parents. so in the end, the parents are wrong and harmful and in the case of christians against jesus's teachings to love everyone.

10. this is fan speculation but dont think simon/bram are going through a rough patch? i honestly think it'd be a little cruel to the characters to have on of their actors be producing but then not have that relationship stay. and while it's not set in stone and obviously things happen in the real world, we have no proof script wise about there being a rift. all we have are bad photoshopped ig photos and scenes where two characters are never standing next to each other probably beccaue schedules never link up correctly for minor characters. who knows, maybe nick robinson was filming for a movie where is does have an even more major role than victor's gay guru in a series about victor so his filming time was around that. im gonna keep hope that things are okay.

11. that being said: we need more mainstream wlw content, because someone said it earlier and it really does seem to be catering to straight girls. i'll admit i did freak out when benji played call me maybe which is something i associated with him and victor but then kissed a guy because who wouldn't? we get that serenade and sweetness and then it'a ripped from us. but i did mellow out. if i flipped later it was because victor was making dumb decisions and i had to give myself a moment of compsure before i continued.

in the end, i'd say that there is a lot of growth this series needs to go through, but i also know that some people just aren't going to like it and i get that. but i also know that sometimes the best of stories have rocky starts, nothing is ever perfect from the beginning. and besides, further seasons are on hold until we figure out this covid thing, which means that you bet they're gonna be looking at our feedback. they saw what we thought before, they can do it again

i really did like it but we need more ACTUAL lgbtq+ relationship stuff from this series and better decisions on what we are teaching the younger generations, as well as what we want to focus on and realism within characters. i'm giving it an 8/10, because there is always room for growth and i really hope we get better things out of this than what we have been given in season 2.

edit: someone mentioned it really seeming like it was meant for Disney+ and i felt that. also to anyone who reaches the tags agter reading ALL OF THIS: i am sorry

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ghostgothgeek · 5 years

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BUCKLE UP MOTHERFUCKERS I WAS PROVOKED TO MAKE A LIST OF REASONS WHY DANNY AND SAM DEF DESERVE TO END UP TOGETHER SO HERE WE GO:

They’re best friends. They really know each other. Remember when Danny recognized that Sam wanted to go to the dance? Yes, they understand each other.

They’re def in sync (not like the musical group). They always say the same things at the same time. They think similarly.

She already knows his family is insane. No entrapment here.

He also knows her parents are basically batshit crazy too.

Sam gets along with his family really well. She gets along with Jazz way before there was forced tension in Girls’ Night Out.

Sam keeps Danny grounded and in check. He basically does the same for her. They balance each other out well. They also have a lot in common even though their personalities are quite different. Very protective of their friends, passionate, etc.

E V E R Y O N E knows they have chemistry together and would “always end up together”. Tucker. Valerie. Paulina. Danny’s dad. All of Casper High basically. Hell, even some of the ghosts know (Ember, Kitty, Nocturne, Walker to an extent).

Sam was already his friend before the accident. Like they went through their awkward middle school years together and that’s hardcore.

Sam knows all the dark and creepy shit, which actually helps him fight ghosts (Pandora, Fright Knight).

Sam also doesn’t mind getting in on the action. She WANTS to help. She knows how to work the weapons, etc. She fucking jumps onto a moving train when Danny is under Freakshow’s control to help him and she doesn’t have any powers to help her, she’s just ready to fight at all times.

Even when Danny is under control, he still saves her and she helps pull him out of the spell several times.

Both are willing to cave for the other person, even if it’s not something they support. Sam keeps her family’s money a secret and has the “utter disdain for anything popular”, yet she’s willing to buy Danny that stupid jumpsuit thing for Dash’s party because Danny wants to be popular, even though he treats her like shit in that episode and he basically ditches her and Tucker.

Sam obviously likes him, yet she still wants him to be happy even if it’s not with her.

Same goes for Danny. He gets hella jealous when she’s with Gregor but he still comes to terms with things.

They already argue like a couple. They fight like Jack and Maddie in the Fright Before Christmas.

They’re hella supportive of each other. Sam went to the football game when she was sick to support him being a mascot.

They never really picked on each other or bullied each other, looked down on the other, etc.

Danny finds Plant Sam hella attractive and you can’t convince me otherwise.

Jack got the ring engraved with Sam’s name. Hello Captain Obvious.

The voice actors always knew they would end up together too (explained in the Nick podcast with the trio + Jazz’s voice actors).

Their relationship is built on friendship and loyalty and trust. Danny protects her, she protects his secret. It’s not just attraction, but a mutual respect for each other which is hella important.

All the blushy moments.

They just love kissing each other, don’t they?

They both just like each other all the time. Not even necessarily romantically. Also they share that experience (yes, with Tucker too) of the accident and fight together. That bonds you for life no matter what.

Because I fucking said so.

#Riley is an instigator #here you go #I'll prob think of more after I fucking post this but whatever #I fucking love them #Amethyst Ocean #like literally ride or die

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aion-rsa · 3 years

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Nancy Drew Season 2 Episode 2 Review: The Reunion of Lost Souls

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This Nancy Drew review contains spoilers.

Nancy Drew Season 2, Episode 2

Sea shanties truly are so hot right now. Yes, the musical sensation sweeping your social media plays a big part in the latest installment of Nancy Drew, as our favorite sleuth works to track down a nautical ballad that may hold the key to defeating the vengeful Aglaeca.

Unfortunately, there’s not nearly enough actual singing in this hour for a plot involving sea shanties, and the bulk of the story isn’t so much about the vicious sea spirit’s backstory as it is a trip down memory lane with her last batch of victims, who all turn out to be faces we’ve seen before. That no member of the Drew Crew is even vaguely surprised that they ran into various members of a squad of ghosts around town without knowing over the course of last season is precisely why this show is so great.

The primary ghost turns out to be John Macdonald, and his life ended in tragedy when he was hit by a semi-truck in 1975. But four of his friends also died under mysterious circumstances that day, including Rita, the ghost who tried to apply for a job at The Claw all the way back in the series’ third episode. Mac, surprise, surprise, is also someone we’ve seen before, albeit briefly, during a party at the Marvin residence in which he assumed Nick was a waiter.

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Turns out, that’s not the only awkward assumption Mac makes about Nick. You can draw your own conclusions about Mac’s likely level of racism beyond the veil, but he definitely assumes that Nick is his old bartender BFF named Buddy because he is also a Black man. Mac, it would seem, remains convinced that Buddy knew where the lone 45 recording of the Aglaeca shanty was hidden, so now it means he thinks Nick does too.

This leads to a lot of fun scenes involving mirror hauntings and glass exploding, but Mac’s racial assumptions tie neatly into the episode’s other main subplot of the week, involving a visit from Nick’s mother. Given the fact that Nick was in a relationship with Nancy and had a connection to Tiffany Hudson, there wasn’t a lot of room to really get into his backstory last season. This is probably why a plot that centers on him as a character for once feels long overdue.

Millie Nickerson, by the way, is amazing. She doesn’t even blink at the revelation that ghosts are real, citing her Bible and prayer shawl as evidence that she has always known the supernatural is very present. She’s also determined to bring Nick home to Florida after the death of a family friend in what the police are calling a drug deal gone wrong, but she knows is just another example of a young Black man who paid the ultimate price for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Millie is deeply rattled by the fact that Nick spent two years in jail despite all her best efforts to impress upon him all the ways that young Black men must navigate the world differently – understand that people will view him as larger and scarier than he is, keep his hands visible, don’t talk back, look like anything but a threat. That she still lost him has spooked her, and she wants him back home where she can both see and protect him.

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Nick, of course, isn’t into this plan, as he’s built a real life for himself in Horseshoe Bay, complete with a business, a girlfriend and a group of friends for support. It doesn’t seem as though we’re ever really supposed to assume that Nick leaving is a possibility, but this is one of the first times that Nancy Drew has attempted to wrestle with the fact that Nick’s experience of Horseshoe Bay specifically and of Maine generally is different than everyone else’s, simply because of his race.

The sea shanty, once discovered, ultimately doesn’t give us a ton of clues about how our heroes could go about saving themselves from predestined death. It does, however, tell us a bit about the woman who eventually became the monster, Odette LaMar, an heiress from France who married Bess’ very-great grandfather Captain Marvin after a whirlwind romance on their crossing from Europe. Unfortunately, according to the song, she died of consumption before she reached land. Or did she?

A message hidden in the shanty itself implies otherwise. The secret second track is basically an audible version of that video of Samara crawling out of the well in The Ring, and is apparently a version of the last song Odette’s victims ever hear. This grisly message from beyond tells the truth of the way she was manipulated and betrayed by those she trusted, and announces that those who do not pay her toll will die 7 days after they fail to do so.

The Drew Crew has three days to save themselves. Start the clock.

Additional Thoughts

Everyone else caught that the creepy abandoned orphanage was in Stratemeyer (as in, Syndicate) Woods, right? This show’s nerdiness about its own history gives me such joy.

Also, truly, only in Horseshoe Bay would there be a surprise abandoned decrepit orphanage that time forgot just chilling in some random woods. This town is amazing.

“I’m not dying with gross nails.” Never change, Bess Marvin.

Speaking of Marvins, I think we have to assume that Bess’ great great great great great grandfather, Captain Marvin, was most probably a very bad dude.

Can we talk about how charming Ace and Carson Drew’s weird little friendship is? Alex Saxon and Scott Wolf have the best offbeat chemistry, and I have to admit I sort of like this as a way to keep Carson part of the story while he and Nancy aren’t really speaking.

I absolutely love this thing where Nancy and Ace have a little heart to heart every episode these days. Truly, I ship it, but I almost don’t want to because their friendship is so pure.

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