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#but its also like ok theres like clearly a failing here thats causing this problem for all of us
cruelsister-moved2 · 2 years
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tbhhh the op of this is kind of right dont get me wrong they went about it very poorly and very centred on their own view without considering the experiences of others so i completely understand where the criticism is coming from & also some of their reasoning is not great like i don’t believe ‘autistic people are EXTREMELY disconnected from the world around us’ or that not understanding NTs will turn you into a narcissist HOWEVER i do believe radicalisation and moral rigidity are for real things that affect autistic people disproportionately - not just alt-right, but any kind of extremism, religious fundamentalism, cults, etc. and also on a shallower level ive seen autistic ppl disproportionately swept up in like shipping discourse or whatever which does cause pretty serious negative impacts to their wellbeing (including like kids being groomed through it).  i think there are people who KNOW to take advantage of vulnerable autistic people in this way and we should all be looking out for it and learn how to protect the more vulnerable members of our community. like i dont know if theyre trying to claim autistic n/zis shouldnt be held accountable or whatever and if they are then obviously thats insane, but when u follow the trials and start to see how many like extremist attackers are autistic you cant just turn away from that. from my perspective like addressing the vulnerability of autistic people to certain types of radicalisation could save the lives of their victims sooo i dont think we should avoid doing it... and i get its difficult bc u dont want to look like ur saying autistic ppl are more likely to do xyz bad thing, its just that autistic people (esp white men/boys) are especially vulnerable to online radicalisation and thats a fact... like obviously the goal is to have people who could never be convinced to harm other human beings, but if you have a certain number of those people in the population and its specifically autistic men who are being radicalised to act on it, thats a specific problem?? its not about the individuals, being like ‘oh this mass murderer is autistic so we should all forgive him’, its like on a systemic level lets acknowledge that autistic people are disproportionately vulnerable to radicalisation so we can address that and prevent it in the future... i also think, like i’ve talked about before, that the way society handles autistic boys is insanely toxic in a way that FREQUENTLY produces young men who are a danger to the people around them - NOT inherently bc of autism but bc of a particularly toxic form of male socialisation which we can literally prevent (particularly by increased visibility autistic women & autistics of colour bc just our existence is so combative to harmful stereotypes abt autism) so i think its important to include the gender & race elements when talking abt this kind of radicalisation, but i also think as the other side of that coin autistic women are more vulnerable to cult programming and other forms of radicalisation where the victim is you rather than others & op omitting that is frustrating and undermines their point but i think its super important to talk abt. does that make sense like ugh its hard to figure out how to summarise what im getting at but ive literally been noticing disproportionate numbers of autistic ppl involved in extremism and its like ok so is the correct response just to ignore that or
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jiilys · 5 years
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call if you care for me
Sirius Black to goobers: the one day i actually come and school burns down
Remus Lupin: what classes were you in
James Potter: i was in english you Were Not
Peter Pettigrew: or history
Remus Lupin: it doesnt count as attending school if u just lie behind the science block till lunch  
Sirius Black: youre all ruining this fire for me  
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James Potter to Lily Evans: give back my chocolate shake
Lily Evans: i dont have it
James Potter: i can see u fuckin drinkin it we’re in the same mcdonalds
Lily Evans: everyones saying you did it
James Potter: pardon
Lily Evans: set the fire
James Potter: come off it
James Potter: whose saying that
Lily Evans: everyone
James Potter: ah yes my great mate ‘everyone’
Lily Evans: mary, elliot from science, louise marcot, guy from math whose name i dont know but went to ball with ruby garland, sam roberts, and sushi danny have all told me it was you
James Potter: wow that does seem like everyone
James Potter: now im wondering whether I did do it
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Sirius Black to James Potter: had a dream i died in a freak pharmaceutical accident last night
James Potter: what is a freak pharmaceutical accident
Sirius Black: i was drunk in a pharmacy and put all their throat lozenges up my nose 
Marlene McKinnion to Lily Evans: schools on the news
Marlene McKinnon: why tf are they interviewing black and calling him a ‘student’
Marlene McKinnon: dont u need to attend school for at least 3 out of 5 weekdays to earn that title
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Lily Evans to Sirius Black: saw u on the news
Lily Evans: ur tie was inside out if thats even possible
Sirius Black: all part of My Look which i have now publicised on national telly so eat ass
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James Potter to Lily Evans: wow is this what happens when u go in the sun what a tan u have
James Potter: and by tan i obvsly mean you look like an overcooked frankfurter
James Potter: clearly u need to be marinating in sunblock like a chicken
James Potter: GOD these similes……… no wonder I won the english prize over you last year
Lily Evans: what a shame ur going to be murdered before you can win it again
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Remus Lupin to Marlene McKinnon: just checking ur the one called lesbo archilles in the kahoot
Marlene McKinnon: ya
Marlene McKinnon: why
Remus Lupin: wanted to know who was beating me
Marlene McKinnon: up ur classics knowledge lupin  
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Peter Pettigrew to only smexy activity permitted: holy dick mum got an email the police think the fire was arson  
Sirius Black: confess now james
James Potter: fuck you
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Peter Pettigrew to James Potter: have u seen beyonce
Peter Pettigrew: i meant beyonce
Peter Pettigrew: why does it keep saying beyonce
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James Potter to Sirius Black: nice work autocorrecting ur name in petes phone to beyonce
James Potter: however ur less destinys child and more destinys bastard son
Sirius Black: im making that my tinder bio
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Lily Evans to James Potter: you know what i think ur socks need 2 pulled higher
Lily Evans: fuck the haters pull those things tits high
James Potter: ur late to this sirius already asked me if i knew i was being eaten alive from the foot upwards
James Potter: theyre literally pulled only just above my ankle i hate everyone i know
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Remus Lupin to James Potter: have u seen this
Remus Lupin: sent a facebook link to jomes potter (general dickhead) deserves medal for burning down school
James Potter: this is getting out of control I DIDNT DO IT
James Potter: this page has 137 likes and theyve spelt my name wrong i wish i was dead
James Potter: ok why are you and sirius admins
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Marlene McKinnon to Lily Evans: they know how the fire started
Marlene McKinnon: or mum knows cause shes sleeping with that police guy
Marlene McKinnon: lit cigarette by the languages block between 11-11:15
Lily Evans: fucking pardon
Lily Evans: are you sure
Marlene McKinnon: course i bloody am
Marlene McKinnon: whats the problem
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Lily Evans to James Potter: james
Lily Evans: not to be drama but i think i fucking burnt down the school
Lily Evans: literally call me asap
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James Potter to Remus Lupin: hypothetically in a hypothetical situation if someone was hypothetically smoking in the languages block and threw it on the ground at the exact hypothetical time a fire had hypothetically started what would one hypothetically do
James Potter: hypothetically
Remus Lupin: jfc what have u done
James Potter: genuinely not me this time come to lils pls
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Sirius Black created the group save lily from arrest
Sirius Black added James Potter, Lily Evans, Remus Lupin
Lily Evans: sirius this isn’t funny i could’ve really hurt someone
Sirius Black: senorita blanco failed me in fourth year spanish so you could say it was karma
Sirius Black: also relax evans ur not guy fawkes u only maimed several expensive smartboards  
Remus Lupin: guy fawkes was famously unsuccessful ur reference is shite
Sirius Black renamed the group blow me lupin
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Remus Lupin to Sirius Black: james has it so bad its embarrassing hes followed all her playlists on spotify
Sirius Black: hes making his bed cause shes coming over who is he
Sirius Black: like evans makes her damn bed
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Peter Pettigrew to James Potter: marnie attkins just told me theres £120 on when youll confess u set the fire  
Peter Pettigrew: can u tell me when ur planning 2 so i can win i promise to split it  
James Potter: pete are you kidding me
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Sirius Black to Lily Evans: stop looking at the languages block and being a sad sack  
Lily Evans: you mean where the block used to be before i burnt it down
Lily Evans: where are you anyway i cant see you
Sirius Black: on the roof of the bio building i have a deck chair here
Sirius Black: also dont be a drama queen youre not a bad person
Sirius Black: you hurt no one and cant change what happened by blaming urself
Sirius Black: now come 2 the science block and bring those twix in ur bag
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James Potter to Lily Evans: nice tights
Lily Evans: i think you mean nice legs
James Potter: that too
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Peter Pettigrew to reese witherhoon: we are go
Remus Lupin: godspeed boys
Peter Pettigrew: wait i left my wallpaper glue in the loos we’re not go
Sirius Black: im keeping one of these fake moustaches i look manly
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Lily Evans to blow me lupin: sirius can i have the crisps in ur bag
Sirius Black: no
Remus Lupin: lily said to tell you shes lost her phone and cant see ur response so has started eating the crisps
Sirius Black: die evans
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James Potter to Sirius Black: yeah every time i said I was over lil was a bold faced lie why is she the funniest prettiest best girl alive
Sirius Black: ur pathetic
Sirius Black: whats brought this honestly on
James Potter: she was laughing and i wanted 2 kiss her so bad i gave myself a headache
Sirius Black: i said you were pathetic 2 soon i shouldve said it here
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Lily Evans to James Potter: i know u don’t think i shouldnt but im going to say it was me
Lily Evans: i mean i know mum cant afford the damage but im sure minnie would help me figure smth out where i could pay it back like over time i mean im just
Lily Evans: it was stupid smokings stupid and i miss it but im never fucking doing it again
Lily Evans: i did a bad thinhg
Lily Evans: i hate wine and its late and im masd u didnt come to this party i want u here
James Potter: dont say anything to anyone im going to ring you
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Sirius Black to Marlene McKinnon: did you take my deck chair from the bio building roof
Marlene McKinnon: who is this
Sirius Black: come of it mckinnon i know u have my number
Sirius Black: i want my chair back
Marlene McKinnon: sorry was always taught not 2 talk to strangers
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Mum to James Potter: school called and wants to interview you about the fire
James Potter: brilliant
Mum: bring milk home
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Remus Lupin to Peter Pettigrew: are you with sirius
Peter Pettigrew: yeah
Remus Lupin: tell him i took his lunch and he wont get it back till he gives me my calculus homework
Peter Pettigrew: sirius says he has ur wallet and is now buying himself lunch
Peter Pettigrew: he said to ask if you wanted anything
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Sirius Black to blow me lupin: so when is minnie taking u to jail james
James Potter: imminently  
Remus Luping: can we pls change the group name my mum saw these alerts
Sirius Black renamed the group fuck me lupin
James Potter renamed the group raw me behind the nice thai place lupin
Sirius Black renamed the group lupin rim me in ur mums home office
Remus Lupin: too fucking far leave mums home office out of this
Lily Evans: whats this abt james going to jail
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Lily Evans to James Potter: cant believe you didnt tell me about mcgonagall interviewing you
James Potter: dw the police think its me lol
James Potter: i guess everyones been sharing their theories and that that fb page now has over 200 likes
James Potter: they dont have anything on me though so ur still good  
Lily Evans: they seriously consider you a suspect
Lily Evans: thats a big fucking deal james what the fuck  
James Potter: lily its fine
James Potter: lily
James Potter: jesus dont do anything stupid
James Potter: lily pickup
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Peter Pettigrew to brats (not the dolls we’re barbie loyalists): omg guys lily just confessed she set the fire who knew!!!!!
Peter Pettigrew: guys
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Marlene McKinnon to Lily Evans: baller of u to burn down the school and not tell me
Marlene McKinnon: is it cause im gay
Marlene McKinnon: homophobe
Marlene McKinnon: but seriously if you don’t call me in 24 hours im just gunna turn up to your house
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Sirius Black to Lily Evans: fucking hell evans
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Remus Lupin to Lily Evans: dont talk to the police without a lawyer
James Potter to Lily Evans: lily please call me
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Lily Evans to rim me in ur mums home office lupin: im suspended for two weeks and have to pay off half the damage but not getting charged or expelled
Sirius Black: stunning job on not getting expelled or going to jail
Sirius Black: and a two week holiday!!! im going to burn down the english block
Lily Evans: black ur an ass
Lily Evans: also
Lily Evans added Marlene McKinnon to the chat
Remus Lupin: congrats lil glad 2 have u still with us
Marlene McKinnon: lupin what the hell is happening in ur mums home office
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Lily Evans to James Potter: before you go getting all drama i didnt come forward because of you
Lily Evans: i did a bad thing and when you do bad shit ur not supposed to own up and say so
Lily Evans: i was being the kind of thing i hate and was sick of it
Lily Evans: but in the interest of honesty thinking about you in serious trouble makes me sick
James Potter: i understand
James Potter: i kinda always thought you would tell youre kind of like that
Lily Evans: like what
James Potter: good all the way through
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Sirius Black to James Potter: love of ur life is pretty fucking ethical
James Potter: i know shes the best
Sirius Black: wait till i tell her abt that time u took that magazine from the doctors office
James Potter: we were literally seven how do u remember that  
Sirius Black: crimes are immortal 
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Sirius Black to suck me off at the old quarry lupin: in lilys memory we should hold a bonfire vigil
Lily Evans: sirius im suspended not dead
Marlene McKinnon: rip evans (some fucking year – now)
Lily Evans: u rlly couldnt figure out the year i was born mar
Remus Lupin: gone but never forgotten
Remus Lupin: also stop it with these group names
Sirius Black renamed the group lupin pull me off at the gas station by the crisps
James Potter renamed the group lupin take me from behind in the girls loos at noon
Remus Lupin: hell has nothing on this
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Lily Evans to James Potter: am very bored and out of oreos
Lily Evans: been considering dying my hair black just for something to do
James Potter: youd look shit with black hair
Lily Evans: youd know
Lily Evans: HA set you up for that id never dye my hair. u fool
James Potter: so rlly what youve been doing all day is thinking of that bit
Lily Evans: not just that i also finished the oreos
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Sirius Black to Remus Lupin: are you asleep
Remus Lupin: its 4am so you know im not
Sirius Black: i have potters keys wanna get mcdonalds
Remus Lupin: ill meet you outside
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James Potter to Lily Evans: school is shite without you im coming round
Lily Evans: its 11am
Lily Evans: park down the street i have nosy neigbours
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Remus Lupin to lupin bum me at nasa: for my birthday i want no one to throw up in my shoes
James Potter: it was fucking ONCE
James Potter: im hosting the damn party i wont b ridiculed like this
Sirius Black renamed the group lupin jerk me off while wearing james’ vomit shoes
Sirius Black: two birds one stone
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Lily Evans to James Potter: have fun tonight tell remus his gift is late but coming
James Potter: we’ll miss you
Lily Evans: nah youll b fine
James Potter: i wont be
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Sirius Black to Remus Lupin: 2 protect ur shoes i put them inside the upstairs loo bowl no need to thank me
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James Potter to Lily Evans: i know its late and ur going to think im drunk but ive only had one beer
James Potter: im interested in you
James Potter: so interested
James Potter: romantically
James Potter: earlier sirius struck out with some random girl marlene is now making out with and all i want is you here to laugh with us abt it
James Potter: cause youd say smth funny and good that would make everyone laugh
James Potter: also youre so pretty i couldn’t figure out how to work that in there but you are
James Potter: sorry if this makes you uncomfortable and fucks everything i just had to say
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Lily Evans to James Potter: when you wake up you should probably come round
James Potter: im awake now
Lily Evans: wow an early one
Lily Evans: how was last night
James Potter: well four glasses are broken and peter slept on the dishwasher so standard but i also said how i feel about you to you so incredibly not standard
Lily Evans: yeah about that
Lily Evans: how do you feel about me now your single beer has worn off and the nights over
James Potter: the same
Lily Evans: well you should def come round then
Lily Evans: quite hard 2 kiss u dramatically if ur not here
James Potter: i know ur againist breaking the law and all but you cant say smth like that and expect me not to speed
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Sirius Black to when will someone offer to eat LUPINS ASS at the museum holiday party c’mon guys he has needs: turns out lily was lighting fires in james heart all along
Lily Evans: jfc
Remus Lupin: i mean what is the correct reaction to that
Marlene McKinnon: removing him from the chat
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vr2 · 5 years
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*turn around in shorts that say its time for my fuckin opinion on the ass* hey sweaty read to choke on my bns hot takes for uh lets see here uh ... t-two thousand words....
first of all... im pretty easily entertained so if u fail to do that its so like something has gone horribly wrong. i can enjoy pretty much anything halfway decent and i hate nitpicking on shit. but nitpicking implies small problems and sometimes the problem is the whole fucking thing. but man the direction bns has been going in is like. it really be like that, it really be just the most blatantly boring and uninspired it could go and here’s my fucking video essay that i will not do you the honour of being read aloud since the force of my opinion would crush your skull like a grape if spoken in the real world. 
first of all. i generally didnt have a problem with act1 bns story, i honestly thought it had some cool characters, some COOL as fuck cutscenes and as a person that loves lore juice a lot of the characters held a lot of promise and the diary was a fun read despite being the absolutely worst most stupid way to deliver any sort of lore content.
the circular narrative, the tight ending and the callback to all the characters was pretty well-rounded, a little but hammy but adopting the hongmoon kids nad becoming the master of your school was pretty novel. i really felt like there were so many new places to go with this dynamic, like bns could do something new by giving the mc more stakes in other characters rather than being a complete wildcard drifter.
but they keep doing this fucking thing were they repeat story themes in a way thats become incredibly unwelcome. i can understand why npcs would become recurring characters, why certain objects etc are still relevant but the fact that beat for beat the endgame again is divine mandate, mushins there, namsoyoo in danger and someone gets killed off for the sake of idk tragedy i guess. 
i think the worse thing is that the game tries to be tongue in cheek about its tropiness and normally id be like ok cool but the tropes are executed just so fucking blandly and soullessly its kind of insulting like. they really absolutely did not fucking try in the slightest for this one. not at fucking all. 
ryu saying ‘oh it would be so bad if you passed out form poison at an inconvenient time’ and the obvious death flags from bunah and bunyang are incredibly grating when you have absolutely no fucking stake in the story, know exactly whats coming cause the writing repeats itself over and over and know the exact same beats. 
at the very least most people can stand tropey anime, hell you can even ENJOY it if you are absorbed into the world and characters and the tropes are executed well. but this story is wholesale just same fucking shit slightly different npcs. it feels like they tries to manufacture drama in the most blatantly cheap way and it really lets itself down. i could honestly see them killing ONE of the kids for cheap and dirty tearjerking but man all of them leaving you alone again with jsy is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo unebelievably lazy. we have entered asian tv drama levels but at least those are fucking interesting. even the dance number in this act was shit.
i think the most annoying thing is that bns is one of the first mmos i played way back when and i still genuinely like the game up to a point and i like the world and characters. im literally always moaning bout how they did fuck all with the eight masters but gave them the barest most tantalizing hints of interesting characterisation in the diaries. but i think that’s all you need. it doesnt need to be 24/7 ballz to the walls worldending tragedy shock tactics to be entertaining. it somehow feels like they played it so incredibly safe that they looped around and made the worst decision possible and i just really wish theyd hire just your random ass average fucking ln writer cause theyd at least make shit entertaining. like the long form story telling of a truple a game thats reaching nearly 10 acts now should definitely be better than this like. what a fucking way to drop the ball.  
now. my second bone to grind. tell me why they actively REMOVED? ALL SIDE QUESTS? what kind of game, especially an mmo would fucking remove its OWN lore? why would that make any fucking sense? especially for how lore-light this game is but how vast its world is like sidequests felt like the absolute BARE minimum way to furnish this admittedly underdeveloped world. they at least gave us that slight illusion of depth and some of them were even fun! interesting! i still remember the sidequest where you go on a ‘hostage rescue mission’ to save an npc’s son who was kidnapped by lycandi and the npc who fucking gave you the mission murders his own son in front of you cause he was bumpin with the lycandi like. it’s not fucking riveting writing but it gave some more context to the places you visit, it’s SOMETHING about the supposed people that inhabit the world and it clearly makes some places more memorable than just ‘cool sky desert’, ‘cool sky city’, ‘cool sky village’.
im vaguely aware that this was done cause it ‘confused players’ who thought they had to do blue quests to level up to endgame and firstable idk why bns pushes endgame as the only ‘good’ part when its like in my humble opinion really fucking boring. you know people play mmos for different reasons? not just to reach lvl 100 super tier omega hongmoon thornbuster breakre 5000 and be no.1 in pvp. just looking flashy and good combat isn’t really enough to compete these days. im guessing its a push to the esports scene but also like you really want to serve one side better by doing relateively arbitrary thing that fucks over pve ppl? like? 
also there ARE genuinely people interested in the world and content and story as exemplified by all the oc and various comics and even even some official webcomics like i honestly dont think nc at all in any way nurtures that side of their mmo nearly enough especially when you see how healthy and thriving ff14 and other communities are in their oc scene. the sheer fact that people still stuck around despite the experiene of playing bns being patently awfully optimised and an uphill battle in every single way is testament to the fact that maybe some people just genuinely like the game? gutting it is absolutely antithesis to that.
i actually cant wrap my head around purposefully deleting lore cause it makes ‘grinding to endgame’ too confusing like does the story take that low a priority? the fucking ACTUAL game and the story is less important than people mindlessly burning themselves out to endgame, grinding dungeons and buying lootboxes like you cant do in literally every other game anyways? why would you get rid of some of the only shit that makes your game even slightly different? like im not out here saying it was the most revolutionary great shit but at least the side quests TRIED to give a modicum of flavour to bns. like they at least attempted to add to all the zones and make them places rather than set pieces were story happens to you then you leave and never come back. it doesnt even have to be revolutionary amazing writing to do that it just needs to be serviceable to give even the slightest sense of depth.
but for some reason rather than idk. just tell people theyre just flavour text and theyre not compulsory or just toggle on/off the fucking blue quest markers you decide to fucking? nuke the already translated (which someone no doubt paid for), completely unintrusive, absolutely functional, if somewhat tedious sidequests? making the whole fucking game even MORE barren and lifeless? FOR FREE? what a fucking deal.
 i literally cannot understand this clownery this absolute idiot idea could only have been concocted by the specific brand of stupidity found only in corporate sales dept. but like i think its also emblematic of how this game has no creative direction other than make Money which is fucked cause theres genuinely many parts of this game that i enjoy from like characters, music, visuals theres A LOT of promise in bns even if it takes a lot of legwork to get to it. as much as people give htk shit he absolutely made this game what it is visually and thematically, the soundtrack fucking rocks, theres some solid characters and story elements, a lot of the game still holds up visually and som of it dare i say looks fucking good. give bns a try its free to play.
maybe ive just been spoiled by fgo and gbf and literally every other popular game ACTUALLY trying to write good shit. trying to give their readers lore, trying to make things genuinely ENJOYABLE as a game should be rather than a part time job. but man i always forget after act1 bns really reveals why its never broken out from being a midweight grindy mmo 
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